Last chance
President Trump gave Hamas its final chance to make a deal. The new leaders of Hamas (the old leaders are dead) are supposedly considering it.
Here are the terms:
The ceasefire
The plan calls for all hostilities to immediately end. Within 72 hours, Hamas would release all hostages it still holds, living or dead. The militants still hold 48 hostages — 20 of whom are believed by Israel to be alive.
In return, Israel would free 250 Palestinians serving life sentences in its prisons as well as 1,700 people detained from Gaza since the war began, including all women and children. Israel would also hand over the bodies of 15 Palestinians for each body of a hostage handed over.
Troop withdrawal
The plan calls for an Israeli troop withdrawal. But it would only take place after Hamas disarms and as the international security force deploys to fill in areas that Israeli forces leave.
Israel would also maintain a “security perimeter presence” – a vague phrasing that could mean it would keep a buffer zone inside Gaza.
Those terms could bring pushback from Hamas, which has said it will not release all its hostages unless it receives a “clear declaration” the war will end and Israel will leave Gaza completely.
The fate of Hamas and postwar Gaza
Hamas would have no part in administering Gaza, and all its military infrastructure — including tunnels — would be dismantled. Members who pledge to live peacefully would be granted amnesty, and those who wish to leave Gaza would be allowed to.
The international security force would ensure Hamas’ disarmament and keep order. It would also train Palestinian police to take over law enforcement. Mediator Egypt has said it is training thousands of Palestinian police to deploy to Gaza.
Meanwhile, humanitarian aid would be allowed to flow into Gaza in large amounts and would be run by “neutral international bodies,” including the U.N. and the Red Crescent. It is unclear whether the Gaza Humanitarian Fund , a controversial alternative food distribution system backed by Israel and the U.S., would continue to operate.
The plan also specifies that Palestinians will not be expelled from Gaza, and that there will be an international effort to rebuild the territory for Palestinians.
In normal cases, that might not need spelling out. But Palestinians have feared mass expulsion after both Trump and the Israeli government spoke of pushing out Gaza’s population — ostensibly in a “voluntary” manner — and rebuilding the strip as a sort of international real estate venture.
The interim administration of Palestinian technocrats would run day-to-day affairs in Gaza. But it would be overseen by the “Board of Peace.” The board would also supervise funding of reconstruction, a role that could give it enormous power over governing Gaza since that is the biggest task facing the territory, almost completely destroyed by Israel’s campaign.
The Palestinian Authority and statehood
During this interim administration, the Palestinian Authority would undergo reforms so it can eventually take over governing Gaza.
The plan has only a slight nod to the issue of statehood. It says that if the Palestinian Authority reforms sufficiently and Gaza redevelopment advances, “the conditions may finally be in place for a credible pathway to Palestinian self-determination and statehood.”
What to know about Gaza peace plan advanced by Trump and Netanyahu | AP News
We are waiting for a reply from Hamas. I suspect that there is a limit to how long we wait.
This is really the last chance for Hamas.
The hostages have been a strong shield for them, but there are limits to trying to get hostages back alive has its limits as well.
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Right now, the Secretary of War Pete Hegseth is giving a very transparent policy speech to the military's top leaders.
The government is very likely to be shut down by democrats late tonight.
He is removing the commissars from the US military.
That's one unfounded opinion.
Trump and Hegseth are disgracing America again today. Period.
They are both psychopaths.
He is talking about the "autopen" to our generals and admirals. He talked about how beautiful his signature is, and he really likes his own signature. He is looney tunes. Hegseth is just as mentally disturbed but in a different kind of way.
Hegseth gave a good speech. It was on policy.
Trump is giving a rambling speech now. Much of it is praising the US military.
Trump has no business telling the nations military leaders that the 2020 election was stolen from him. Period. It is disgraceful.
The important thing John is that military leaders sit there and reserve judgement on all things political. Their duty business is the fighting of our nation's wars. Period.
Trump is mentally ill.
Still with the unfounded opinions.
Flipkowski is nothing more than a far left activist that has never been right in his life. This is just another example of ‘triggered by Trump’
Really? You want to put your whole argument into a fantasy world resident loudmouth? He can't even use the word "fascism" correctly.
That "quote" is really just what you are parroting over and over and over and over and over again. And it's still unfounded.
He QUOTED Trump.
And you think we are going to take your word for it?
You are trolling.
I'm calling out bullshit.
To some here, that is considered trolling.
I really don't care what they consider it or how they feel about it. Especially when they don't back up their claims.
Trump says he’ll “straighten out New York”? Lower their crime rate? From everything I’ve been reading NYC crime has fallen to a low recently. . .
Tell us what certified doctorate program institution you graduated from that qualifies you to correctly diagnose somebody as a psychopath? Inquiring minds do want to know.
Interesting that you reference Ron Flipkowski, who as a Republican was pretty much a RINO before becoming a Democrat. Then you quote Acyn, who is a almost rabid anti Trump leftist liberal commentator. Neither one of those two individuals are medically qualified to judge somebody as mentally ill. Instead of your usual far left sources, at least do try to find something or someone to quote close to the center spectrum with a modicum of credibility.
Nice deflection in that you totally avoided my comment regarding Flipkowski and Acyn. I went to the link you left and asked it if Trump was mentally ill? It specifically stated that there in no evidence of mental illness in Trump and that those non medical folks saying he is are saying it solely for political purposes only.
I imagine this won't go well with the triggered, thin-skinned left.
I'm glad that the Hill already has it up.
They got away with a lot, didn't they? Hegseth didn't court martial Milley for violating the military code.
It was trumpy who walked away from the table over ACA which is just another of his personal grudges.
What was on the table was the same clean bill continuing resolution that democrats had presented when they controlled the House.
Are they really that stupid? The ONLY reason Israel is in Gaza is because they attacked on Oct. 7th.
The fact that these Arab countries have been hands off throughout all this and apparent approval of this proposal should be an indication to Hamas of what they need to do.
I read that Abbas agreed to the plan. I wonder if the "buffer zone" is actually a card that is meant to give Hamas at least one that they can play to not appear to be totally beaten. What has always ankled me is the ratio when it comes to prisoners released for release of Israelis. But what it establishes is that one Jew has a worth or value of at least 5 or ten Arabs.
And those that Hamas gets back in a prisoner exchange are basically terrorists. Israel gets innocent citizens back.
I have always felt that the media covering the families of the hostages to the extent they have has been a negative. At some point Israel will have to write them off.
The families of the hostages would be very happy for this deal to happen.
You can't blame them.
It seems unlikely.
It's being reported that Hamas is likely to reject the proposal. It's a shame as there are innocent people who will get caught in the middle due to their failure to govern their own people.
With all the tunnels below Gaza, this war could go on for much longer. What ever happened to the plan by the IDF to flood those tunnels? That was reported on very early in the war but then disappeared from the news.
Flooding the tunnels would most likely drown the hostages. I don't know to what extent Trump's threat that he will fully back Israel if Hamas did not agree to accpt the proposal, but I hope it would mean something effective, more than just providing weapons.
I don't know what Trump could add other than providing weapons, logistical support and perhaps more surveillance but I think the IDF has that well covered. I don't see him getting authorization from Congress to have boots on the ground.
Seems to me that Trump doesn't particularly care about getting authorization from Congress when he wants to do something.
Boots on the ground could easily be a step too far and he could lose support from Republicans in Congress over it. Add to that, it would tarnish his image of "ending all those wars". I think the best he could do would be perhaps offshore support (again I don't know what could be added that the IDF doesn't already have) and running interference with other countries as they lambast Israel over the supposed genocide in Gaza. I swear, education is not what it used to be when that term can be used for what is happening in Gaza.
Critical thinking is gone - bleeding hearts rule the day.
Agreed. And a quick question, what the heck are you doing awake in the middle of your night? You've been posting all day here. What, did you come over to Canada for a visit?
Plan by the IDF to flood the tunnels? At one point Egypt 🇪🇬 actually started flooding some of them. Some Palestinians were in the tunnels and were killed.
The Egyptians received lots of criticism for flooding the tunnels and had to stop.
Aha!!! Somebody noticed. No, still in China. I have been having difficulty sleeping for a while. Tried Melatonin but it was useless and I don't want to use sleeping pills. These days i've been facing a perfect storm of problems with renewing my Canada passport and the worrying is keeping me awake, I can sleep an hour or two at a time if I'm lucky but last night I didn't sleep at all (that I know).
Difficulty sleeping? You are right Melatonin or sleeping pills are not what people need! I’m not a Doctor so I can’t make recommendations. But from everything you’ve said . . In your situation what I would do is see a good Acupuncturist. I know several excellent ones in various parts of the U.S. but are there any near where you live?
I just got the news that my Passport problem has been solved, and I feel like I just got 20 lb lighter and so relieved, actually feeling cheerful - so I think I'll be able to sleep tonight.
Good luck, hope it works. Hope you get a full nights sleep tonight.
I do miss the time in my youth when I could sleep for hours without any issues. Being able to fall asleep quickly was one gift from my time in the military and I do enjoy it. But I've reached that age where I no longer sleep thru the night, it's only napping between the bathroom breaks. LOL
“But I've reached that age where I no longer sleep thru the night, it's only napping between the bathroom breaks. LOL”
Lmao, i hear ya.
I sure as hell know about that.
Remember Gilad Shalot? He was an Israeli soldier kidnapped by Hamas and held for years.He was finally released and for that over 1000 Arab prisoners in Israeli jails were released (many of whom had committed violent crrimes)
Remember when they livestreamed what they did?
It seems most people don’t remember that Hamas live streamed what they did or the other details. I don’t have time now but soon I will post the details.
Hamas & Israel have had mutual attacks back and forth but this time was different. For starters the attackers had Go Pros & recorded their worst violence. Knowing why is the key to understanding what actually happened. . .
I think that is an excellent idea.
People need to know.
First some background.
Hamas had attacked Israel regularly ( About every 2 years IIRC) -- firing rockets from Gaza into civilian targets in Israel, Israel sent a few troops into Gaza, they battled with Hamas. After a day or two some country (usualIy Egypt, or sometimes the U.S). tried to arrange a cease-fire.
Hamas procrastinated, but within a few days the rockets stopped and Israel withdrew..And then things were mostly quiet for a long time.
Then it repeated (usually about every 2 years)
Note: these were not long, horrific battles.
But then on October 7th 2023 there was a very different attack (The Nova Music Festival Massacre).A large and unusually barbaric attack. (And the terrorists deliberately filmed what they were doing-- and publicized it!).
It wasn't Hamas' usual type of attack. (Some Hamas units attacked but IMO Hamas didn't have the ability to plan that carefully).
I finally thought it must;ve been planned not by Hamas but by Iran.
{To be cont'd tomorrow . . . )
Its hardmto know what's happening in the picture (comment 4). At first I thought it was 2 Hamas with a captured woman (a hostage being released?).
But the two men don't look like Hamas-- it seems every picure I've seen of hamas shows them with their faces masked and a green cloth band around their head. (And yet-- the two men in this situation aren't wearing Israeli soldier's uniforms.
These two guys are not masked-- does Hamas ever appear in public unmasked?
Also the vehicle in the background has Hebrew letters on the window. (unless the vehicle was captured by Hamas ...(highly unlikely)
It almost seems like a picture during a hostage release . . .
Except the woman is bending over. I tried to see if she was crying, terrified, or smiling-- but its hard to see her face.
One guy is holding a gun, but in that area even civilians often carry weapons.
Trump seems to think everyone is as rational as he is and is interested in making deals. Hamas wants to annihilate Israel and will go to any means necessary to do so. I doubt they a deal is possible.
Trump is rational? Whooda thunk it?
About 77 million voters.
‘About 77 million voters.’
Several million more than thought the DEI hire VP was rational
The same 77 million that thought nuking a hurricane was a good idea?
Case closed.
The same 77 million traditional hard-working Americans who were called deplorables & irredeemable & clingers and garbage. They have had enough.
Yes, the media's "Joy" campaign didn't convince them.
I think you're right. Hamas doesn't want peace.
(In fact the more Palestinians that die, the happier Hamas will be. Its great for their propaganda)
"If Hamas rejects the deal, Trump vowed as he stood next to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu at the White House, “Israel would have my full backing to finish the job of destroying the threat of Hamas.”
Isreal should have never held back and should have finished off Hamas before Hamas could get it's propaganda going