Please Advise! Will the Epstein Files Finish Trump?
S E E D E D C O N T E N T
Dear Dr. Steve,
As pages of emails are released from the Epstein files, the story is dominating the U.S. political scene. Epstein, the convicted sex trafficker who apparently committed suicide in prison in 2019, had relationships with scores of influential people, including Bill Clinton and Donald Trump. Conspiracy theories have run rampant on both sides of the political spectrum.
What do think the whole files will reveal, Dr. Steve?
Signed,
Breathless
Dear Breathless,
There is one thing the Epstein emails have revealed without question: some atrocious spelling and terrible grammar.
When considered in the light of the many lives Epstein destroyed, these are of course misdemeanours.
But Epstein’s idiosyncratic communication style has already led to some bizarre results and at least one Saturday Night Live joke . It focused on an email exchange between Epstein and his brother Mark, asking whether Vladimir Putin had photos of Trump “blowing Bubba.” Since “Bubba” was an old nickname for Clinton, icky speculation ran rampant. Certainly, the resulting mental image could be sold as a wonderful weight-loss solution — it could take away your appetite faster than Ozempic.
For years now, the Epstein files have been a multi-purpose political weapon, a Swiss Army knife of scandal, offering all things to all people.
MAGA types have screamed for their release, believing they will reveal the horrific crimes of Clinton and other Democrats. Opponents of Trump have pointed to the photos and videos of Trump and Epstein together and Epstein’s own description of Trump as his erstwhile “best friend.”
The latter group has been the loudest in recent months, certain that Trump is desperate to hide evidence of his crimes. Everything Trump does — every outrage, every attack, every burbling burst of idiocy — is identified by opponents as a distraction from the Epstein files.
Dr. Steve does not know what is in those files. There might be shocking pictures of Trump and various kids, including the four-legged variety.
But Dr. Steve has been somewhat puzzled by all the Epstein focus. Why are Trump’s activities a distraction from Epstein? Dr. Steve would argue that the reverse is more the case.
Anti-Trump forces seem obsessed with the Epstein files in the belief that this, at long last, will be the straw that breaks the MAGA beast’s back. At last, Dirty Don’s cult will abandon him — after all, no one can excuse pedophilia. Well, no one except maybe Megyn Kelly . And spokesrobot Karoline Leavitt. And perhaps Speaker Mike Johnson, who will likely say he was away for the weekend and hasn’t kept up.
But what will the Epstein files reveal? That the guy found liable for sexual assault by a jury, the guy who once boasted to Howard Stern on air about his ability to gawk at semi-naked teenage pageant contestants, the guy who told Billy Bush about his privileged right to grab women’s genitals, is some kind of creep? Stop the presses.
Whatever Trump behaviour emerges from the files will probably be, at best, a stinking brown cherry atop a huge turd sundae.
Why are we waiting for confirmation of Trump’s character? Will the files also reveal that dogs are serial butt-sniffers, Australian cockroaches are nightmare fuel and a 2018 vintage is better for wine than yogurt? Anybody who currently believes Trump is a moral paragon is too far removed from reality to be reached by any Epstein file or, for that matter, by the Starship Enterprise travelling at Warp 9.
The furor over the Epstein files reminds Dr. Steve of the Mueller report on Russian interference in the 2016 election. In Trump’s first term, tremendous weight was put on Robert Mueller’s investigation into his supposed wrongdoing. This would be the moment, many believed, when the curtain was pulled back and the traitorous charlatan exposed.
But the eventual report was a bit of a damp squib. All the eggs in that basket went smash, and somehow Trump managed to skate from many of his obvious deficiencies. (Had it not been for the pandemic, the worst president America ever produced, or even conceived of, might have been re-elected in 2020, instead of four years later.)
Dr. Steve fears the public is making the same mistake again, this time via Epstein.
Put Epstein aside for a moment. Let’s look at the Trump files. They’re not secret. Trump incited a mob to attack the Capitol building and later told the rioters “We love you, you’re very special.” He is engaged in an ongoing attempt to undermine democracy and the rule of law itself, transforming the Department of Justice into a force resembling Sauron’s army of orcs. Trump has been found liable for sexual assault by a civil jury — he denied the crime of rape by saying the victim was “not his type.” He is a convicted felon, and that’s not some inconvenient technicality — it’s who Trump is at his very core. He is so corrupt the concept is meaningless to him — corruption, in his mind, is as natural as binging cheeseburgers and telling lies. He is a psychopathic, narcissistic imbecile who referred to military veterans as “suckers” and “losers” and recently posted an AI video of himself dumping excrement on American protesters.
A person could search the length and breadth of America with a lantern and never find a more vile, reprehensible human being. Investigative journalism is not required.
Dr. Steve has no objection to releasing the Epstein files — the sooner the better. However, he does not expect to learn much. The Pope is Catholic. Bears are not inclined to wait for the next available bathroom. Donald Trump is, and always will be, Donald Trump.
Tags
Who is online
88 visitors
Check the guest lists at Mar-a-Lago, the usual suspects will likely be found there.
good place to start
and if Clinton is in the files? String him up...We don't protect pedophiles
pam bondi has had enough time to delete her primary meat-whistle's name from those files by now ...
besides, this episode hardly turns the thumpers against, in fact it will further endear him to them. the next stage is the endless theatrics of obstruction thru political wrangling and legal maneuvers by the child molesting maga savior of the free world ...
is it me, or does lindsey halligan look like she could pass for melania with a little work?
I think she's a dead ringer
Don't forget the other loophole.
DOJ will not release any files of an ongoing investigation. Trump has ordered the DOJ to open a new investigation into Epstein.
POS/POTUS will be well out of office by the time the majority of those files ever see daylight ...
How is this satire?
Is that a rhetorical question?
Is satire supposed to be spot on?
Let's hope so.
The Pope is Catholic.
Although many are unaware of this-- one is, the other isn't. There are two popes! Both Christian, but only one is Catholic.
The Coptic Othodox Church's leader is also called a pope (also a Christian but a different denomination)
The pope ( Coptic : Ⲡⲁⲡⲁ , romanized: Papa ; Arabic : البابا , romanized: al-Bābā , lit. 'father'), officially the pope of Alexandria and the patriarch of the see of St. Mark , [ 1 ] also known as the bishop of Alexandria , or the patriarch of Alexandria , is the leader of the Coptic Orthodox Church , with ancient Christian roots in Egypt .
The primacy of the Patriarch of Alexandria is rooted in his role as successor to Saint Mark , who was consecrated by Saint Peter , as affirmed by the Council of Nicaea . It is one of three Petrine Sees affirmed by the council alongside the Patriarch of Antioch and the Pope of Rome .
The current holder of this position is Pope Tawadros II , who was selected as the 118th pope on November 18, 2012
Remember this,,, it might be a question of one of Buzz's future movie quizzes!
... bears shit in the woods.
Who do you blame for a personality cult, the con man or the suckers?
It is getting easier to make fun of them all though, the supply of material is endless.
Actually it has always been easy to make fun of them, but now it is effortless.
I've developed an allergy to popcorn.
Could Trump have changed his mind about releasing the files because he saw how the redactions covered his ass?
No. He changed his mind because his DOJ will hide anything implicating him.
Epstein was a New Yorker, Trump is also from NYC and so are a lot of Democrats and many wealthy and powerful people. They all met at one time or other so it's likely Trump isn't releasing the files for the same reason Biden didn't release them, many rich and powerful people associated with Epstein over the years and while most of them probably didn't screw underage girls god knows what things Epstein might have written about them and just like Trump and Clinton there's always guilt by association in certain people's minds. So it's probably just Trump and Biden protecting wealthy friends and powerful people.
You don’t really think Bondi is going to release anything that incriminates Trump, do ya? You know she shredded that shit long ago.
Bingo.
Will the Epstein Files Finish Trump?
Of course not. (Why do you think he-- and his followers in Congress) are suddenly saying they are so eager to release the files?)
By doing that they hope it makes it look like Trump has nothing to hide.
Which accomplishes one of his two goals.
So what's his second goal here?
While pretending he really want th fikles released he's found a way to achieve his second goal (which is not to have them released).
How? He's starting to take legal action to investigate Democrats re: the Epstein situation. Why? because if I understand the situation, you can't release the files when there's an ongoing investigation relating to the files . And he's now creating those investigations . . .
I think he knows that the files are now going to embarrass the Democrats.
It just seems like they're going to embarrass both sides.
In an ideal world, we as Americans would have some form of reckoning, where the tribalists have some sort of epiphany and realize the folly of that philosophy.
I think we all know that isn't likely. The tribal idiots will crow long and hard about the villains in the opposing ranks and make excuses for those in their own ranks, just like they do with everything else.
I don't care who it is, if the emails show more than just rich people, politicians and celebrities rubbing elbows and shmoozing with a billionaire, if they show that they knew what he was up to and were availing themselves of Epstein's offers of underage girls, then regardless of party affiliation, regardless of how wealthy, regardless of how famous, they should be exposed.
With that said, when it does happen, I believe those affiliated with the Democrats or liberal side of politics will express guilt and shame and make apologies for whatever they might have done that looks bad, and it might affect careers and they might get canceled and if they're currently in the house or Senate they'll likely be shamed into resigning like Senator Al Franken who got shamed into retiring for simply taking a joke photo implying sexual harassment back when he was a comedian.
On the other hand, the Republicans and conservatives who get exposed will proclaim their innocence despite the facts and claim nothing happened and threaten to sue anyone who infers or makes claims based on the evidence that might be seen as negative or critical of them. They'll do this all while loudly, conspicuously praying with their supporters about the evil satanic liberals and their attacks against righteous conservative Christians! That's it! They were just trying to preach the good news of Christ to a poor lost liberal soul in Jeff Epstein, that's why they had to go over to his house so many times! In fact, it will likely be seen as a war on Christians on Fox News, perfect timing for the Christmas season when they run their "war on Christmas" and "war on Christians" segments day in and day out. There is simply no way Republicans will recommend any of their members be removed no matter how damning any evidence is, because it always comes down to just two things for them, politics and power. The truth, sexual assault, felonies, attempted insurrection, all are damned and dismissed by Trump supporters in the name of rightwing white conservative power.
I am exceedingly doubtful of that. They will be lambasted by Republicans, and I fully expect the tribal instincts to prevail. Look at Bill Clinton. There is absolutely zero rationale for defending his sexual harassment of a young intern, yet he is defended vehemently.
I do not expect Republicans to do any better.
I'm very often reminded of the Chris Williamson quote.
that's a smug evaluation of someone he doesn't know
Not by me, I didn't vote for him in either election. Or defended by anyone on this site for that matter since he hasn't really been influential in politics for over two decades.
I agree with you there, though I think if the past sheds any light, the Democrats are usually the ones who accept fault and resign in shame when they get caught, but I can't think of a single example of a Republican doing that in the last twenty years.
And yet you thought I was a Bill Clinton supporter or defender, imagine that.
Which is something I've never done.
I can tell you're only defending Trump on occasion because you like playing devil's advocate, pointing out the absurdity in one extremist point of view or the other because there are extremists' views on both sides. But sometimes, I think you end up spending time defending rightwing conservatives who neither deserve it nor are as intelligent or reflective as you make them out to be in their stubborn defense of Donald Trump. By not coming down as hard on them as you do on the those opposed to Donald Trump, it creates an impression that you're defending the same things that other Trump defenders are. Is that tribal? Is pointing out how you feel about sexual predators and those you believe are guilty of rape and numerous other felonies really something we have to consider partisan now and shouldn't be trusted just because the man we're discussing is loved by millions of religious conservatives? I think I'll just keep calling it as I see it even if that implies that millions of religious conservatives are fucking insane and a danger to our nation and our constitutional Republic.
It's fairly obvious, based on simple probability alone.
People who always agree with their tribe cannot be thinking for themselves. They're not serious thinkers, because they agree to give up independent thought in order to align with the group, which means independent thought wasn't very important to them to begin with.
Well done for you. But I have seen his actions defended on this very site. The argument is always "it was consensual". Well, so was Matt Lauer's affair. Why wasn't that OK?
I think you're telling yourself that. They resign in shame as a complete last resort, the same way Republicans do.
Do cite me saying so. There is a specific sort of irony here as you accuse me of the very act you are committing.
Which Democratic policies do you oppose?
If you imagine I believe extremists to be either reflective or intelligent, you are again inventing your own interpretation of comments I have not made.
There is a prevalent view on this forum that Trump supporters on the whole are unintelligent, backward, racist, misogynistic, greedy, and full of various other character defects in whatever order they happen to spring to the mind of the hater. That view is absolutely moronic.
The more extreme their support, the less intelligent they are, for exactly the reason Williamson describes. The same is true of the far left. The further left a person is, the less intelligent they are and the less they understand the world around them. Generally speaking, extremists are often too stupid to know they're stupid.
The point you might see me make is the one nobody likes to contemplate when they are brainlessly ranting about their enemies. The faults in the other team do not equate to strengths of their own.
MGT's stupidity does not somehow make AOC less of an idiot. Trump's outrageous and often ridiculous statements do not somehow make Biden's senility less problematic. Your neighbor's wealth does not make you poorer (despite what the "inequality" minions claim), nor does his immorality absolve you of yours.
Embarrass the Democrats?
My guess is that if all the Epstein files are released (redacted ) there will be people of both parties who will be embarrassed!
Most likely so.
As we see from so many comments here. Progressives have locked themselves into the perfectly non falsifiable position, which is the mark of true fanaticism and anti rational thought. Any evidence means trump is guilty, but the absence of evidence also means he guilty.
Watching progressives attack trump is a window into the mindset of those who burned witches.
Like watching the Witch scene from Monty Python and the Holy Grail
Were there witches that admitted they did what they were accused of?
Did the witches talk about Satan like Trump talked about Epstein?
And do you believe our courts are as shameful as the ones used to try the witches in Salam? That the 34 felony counts that still stand on Trumps record have the same evidence backing them as the witch trials? Really? And the jury that held him liable for the rape of E Jean Carrol? It's all crazy fantasy evidence in Salam-like witch trials that have convicted Trump of his many crimes? Really? Do you know how fucking insane that sounds?
I'm surprised to hear Sean siding with the witches...
So you don't understand the argument...
nd do you believe our courts are as shameful as the ones used to try the witches in Salam
Who said anything about courts?
hat the 34 felony counts that still stand on Trumps record have the same evidence backing them as the witch trials?
That you think 34 bookkeeping errors (if you think the FEC is wrong and partisan NYC democrats are correct) mean Trump is guilty or even relevant to whether Trump was involved with Epstein proves my point nicely. Thank You.
that have convicted Trump of his many crimes?
He was convicted once and it's likely to be thrown out.
Really? Do you know how fucking insane that sounds?
Do you know fucking insane it sounds thinking your talking points are relevant to my point?[✘]
I'm not surprised how badly you missed the point.
If there was any indication that the files would "finish Trump" they would have been released by the Democrats already. Don't know why that is so hard for some people to grasp.
You have to understand the democrat mindset, Definitive proof an adult male showered with a teenage girl, democrat response, nothing to see here. When it comes to a republican, the complete lack of proof is proof that they are guilty. TDS has exposed so many for what they are.
There is a term for that...
Sigh..............................
Have Contents of 'Ashley Biden's Diary' Been Verified? | Snopes.com
Not sure what that post proves, I showed exactly what was in her diary which doesn't say she was a teen at the time so that completely destroys your claim of "definitive proof". Why not try and defend a single fact I pointed out about Trump? Oh, I forgot, slaves never bite their master hand, they can only grovel and abase themselves with lies in defense of the indefensible.
they're left center