By: vic-eldred • 11 months ago • 57 comments
"We will pursue denaturalization proceedings for those individuals lying or misrepresenting themselves during the naturalization process," the spokesperson said.
The President is now considering denaturalizing those who acquired citizenship through fraudulent means. According to the law, he has every right to do it. Federal law says that individuals can lose that status if they committed fraud while applying for citizenship.
8 U.S. Code § 1324c - Penalties for document fraud
(a) Activities prohibited It is unlawful for any person or entity knowingly—
(1)
to forge, counterfeit, alter, or falsely make any document for the purpose of satisfying a requirement of this chapter or to obtain a benefit under this chapter,
(2)
to use, attempt to use, possess, obtain, accept, or receive or to provide any forged, counterfeit, altered, or falsely made document in order to satisfy any requirement of this chapter or to obtain a benefit under this chapter,
(3)
to use or attempt to use or to provide or attempt to provide any document lawfully issued to or with respect to a person other than the possessor (including a deceased individual) for the purpose of satisfying a requirement of this chapter or obtaining a benefit under this chapter,
(4)
to accept or receive or to provide any document lawfully issued to or with respect to a person other than the possessor (including a deceased individual) for the purpose of complying with section 1324a(b) of this title or obtaining a benefit under this chapter, or
(5)
to prepare, file, or assist another in preparing or filing, any application for benefits under this chapter, or any document required under this chapter, or any document submitted in connection with such application or document, with knowledge or in reckless disregard of the fact that such application or document was falsely made or, in whole or in part, does not relate to the person on whose behalf it was or is being submitted, or
(6)
(A)
to present before boarding a common carrier for the purpose of coming to the United States a document which relates to the alien’ s eligibility to enter the United States , and (B) to fail to present such document to an immigration officer upon arrival at a United States port of entry.
(b) Exception
This section does not prohibit any lawfully authorized investigative, protective, or intelligence activity of a law enforcement agency of the United States , a State, or a subdivision of a State, or of an intelligence agency of the United States , or any activity authorized under chapter 224 of title 18.
(c) Construction
Nothing in this section shall be construed to diminish or qualify any of the penalties available for activities prohibited by this section but proscribed as well in title 18.
(d) Enforcement
(1) Authority in investigations In conducting investigations and hearings under this subsection—
(A)
immigration officers and administrative law judges shall have reasonable access to examine evidence of any person or entity being investigated,
(B)
administrative law judges, may, if necessary, compel by subpoena the attendance of witnesses and the production of evidence at any designated place or hearing, and
(C)
immigration officers designated by the Commissioner may compel by subpoena the attendance of witnesses and the production of evidence at any designated place prior to the filing of a complaint in a case under paragraph (2).
In case of contumacy or refusal to obey a subpoena lawfully issued under this paragraph and upon application of the Attorney General , an appropriate district court of the United States may issue an order requiring compliance with such subpoena and any failure to obey such order may be punished by such court as a contempt thereof.
(2) Hearing
(A) In general
Before imposing an order described in paragraph (3) against a person or entity under this subsection for a violation of subsection (a), the Attorney General shall provide the person or entity with notice and, upon request made within a reasonable time (of not less than 30 days, as established by the Attorney General ) of the date of the notice, a hearing respecting the violation.
(B) Conduct of hearing
Any hearing so requested shall be conducted before an administrative law judge. The hearing shall be conducted in accordance with the requirements of section 554 of title 5 . The hearing shall be held at the nearest practicable place to the place where the person or entity resides or of the place where the alleged violation occurred. If no hearing is so requested, the Attorney General’ s imposition of the order shall constitute a final and unappealable order.
(C) Issuance of orders
If the administrative law judge determines, upon the preponderance of the evidence received, that a person or entity has violated subsection (a), the administrative law judge shall state his findings of fact and issue and cause to be served on such person or entity an order described in paragraph (3).
(3) Cease and desist order with civil money penalty With respect to a violation of subsection (a), the order under this subsection shall require the person or entity to cease and desist from such violations and to pay a civil penalty in an amount of—
(A)
not less than $250 and not more than $2,000 for each document that is the subject of a violation under subsection (a), or
(B)
in the case of a person or entity previously subject to an order under this paragraph, not less than $2,000 and not more than $5,000 for each document that is the subject of a violation under subsection (a).
In applying this subsection in the case of a person or entity composed of distinct, physically separate subdivisions each of which provides separately for the hiring, recruiting, or referring for employment, without reference to the practices of, and not under the control of or common control with, another subdivision, each such subdivision shall be considered a separate person or entity.
(4) Administrative appellate review
The decision and order of an administrative law judge shall become the final agency decision and order of the Attorney General unless either (A) within 30 days, an official delegated by regulation to exercise review authority over the decision and order modifies or vacates the decision and order, or (B) within 30 days of the date of such a modification or vacation (or within 60 days of the date of decision and order of an administrative law judge if not so modified or vacated) the decision and order is referred to the Attorney General pursuant to regulations, in which case the decision and order of the Attorney General shall become the final agency decision and order under this subsection.
(5) Judicial review
A person or entity adversely affected by a final order under this section may, within 45 days after the date the final order is issued, file a petition in the Court of Appeals for the appropriate circuit for review of the order.
(6) Enforcement of orders
If a person or entity fails to comply with a final order issued under this section against the person or entity, the Attorney General shall file a suit to seek compliance with the order in any appropriate district court of the United States. In any such suit, the validity and appropriateness of the final order shall not be subject to review.
(e) Criminal penalties for failure to disclose role as document preparer
(1)
Whoever, in any matter within the jurisdiction of the Service , knowingly and willfully fails to disclose, conceals, or covers up the fact that they have, on behalf of any person and for a fee or other remuneration, prepared or assisted in preparing an application which was falsely made (as defined in subsection (f)) for immigration benefits, shall be fined in accordance with title 18, imprisoned for not more than 5 years, or both, and prohibited from preparing or assisting in preparing, whether or not for a fee or other remuneration, any other such application.
(2)
Whoever, having been convicted of a violation of paragraph (1), knowingly and willfully prepares or assists in preparing an application for immigration benefits pursuant to this chapter, or the regulations promulgated thereunder, whether or not for a fee or other remuneration and regardless of whether in any matter within the jurisdiction of the Service , shall be fined in accordance with title 18, imprisoned for not more than 15 years, or both, and prohibited from preparing or assisting in preparing any other such application.
(f) Falsely make
For purposes of this section, the term “ falsely make ” means to prepare or provide an application or document, with knowledge or in reckless disregard of the fact that the application or document contains a false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or material representation, or has no basis in law or fact, or otherwise fails to state a fact which is material to the purpose for which it was submitted.
"A USCIS spokesperson said it was not a secret that the agency's "war on fraud" prioritized people who unlawfully obtained U.S. citizenship, particularly under the previous administration."
[deleted] [✘] The end to this administration and the removal of every single MAGAite from power cannot come soon enough. I would vote to have Trump and anyone who attacked security on January 6th have their citizenship revoked and have them sent to some prison in Honduras before I would worry that some immigrant made a misstatement on their application for citizenship.
Anyone who spells "Constitution" with a small c shows how much they hate the document
What a nonsensical comment Chief. Is there a law about that or are you just a spelling tyrant now?
The USA has two constitutions, the Bill of Rights and the Constitution of the USA.
Each of the states and territories have a constitution.
194 other countries have constitutions despite different forms of government, even dictatorships have constitutions.
You are on a social media website that you seem to think is strictly for you to insult different users over political differences.
Whatever, pointing out spelling errors and casting judgement says a lot more about you than any imagined enemy on NT that you feel the constant need to try to insult.
have a great Friday Master Chief and thank you once again for your twenty years of service.
It's also correct about MAGA country. The South and Muslim countries have so many things in common. Inbreeding rumored to be kind of a thing, religious conservatives running the place, religious laws like not being able to buy alcohol in some counties or on Sundays. They also worship the same God, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Ishmael. All factually correct.
How many people are we talking about here? Hundreds? Thousands? It certainly won't be millions. Yeah, this is something that needs to be addressed and corrected. But it's not headline news.
Immigration fraud isn't any worse than fat cat banker fraud. The multinational corporations selling out the US is a much bigger problem. Why should we be impressed that Trump is blowing smoke from a tiny backyard campfire?
Should laws apply to immigrants who commit fraud or not?
They should and they do. We already have a process for review of immigrants who have already naturalized. And of course, it's a very small number that are found fraudulent in comparison to the number of legal immigrants who have nothing to hide and did everything right. That's why this is clearly just an exercise in conservatives scapegoating the tiny handful of fraudulent immigrants to paint the large swath of legal immigrants as undesirable because the conservatives just don't want any of them here. I don't think anyone is blind to the fact that MANY rightwing conservatives are proud bigots who stupidly imagine their 'white culture' is being threatened. Why should we let those tired morons decide who is and isn't welcome in our country? I have no problem getting rid of those who are using fraud to get here, but the blatant xenophobic hysterics of conservatives is beyond embarrassing for our nation. Sadly, those xenophobes embarrassing the nation have no shame and an equal amount of intelligence.
You must hate the derogatory photo and demeaning name your fellow right winger posted at Comment 2.2.5 (above) about a black woman who was Vice-President of the United States. I'm certain you have denounced it vehemently somewhere, right? I looked and looked and looked and don't see where you did that, and we know you're not a hypocrite.
ou must hate the derogatory photo and demeaning name your fellow right winger posted at Comment 2.2.5 (above) about a black woman who was Vice-President of the United States.
I would if the picture had something to do with her race, but since it does not, there is nothing wrong with it.
Not everyone sees race in everything.
A good lawyer would say this is free speech, just as the inevitable derogatory racist comments that will be thrown at Minaj.
Who said you and your friend don't have the right to say or post any obnoxious thing you want? The right wingers on here take advantage of their freedom to do so often, as your group's comments regularly show.
"A USCIS spokesperson said it was not a secret that the agency's "war on fraud" prioritized people who unlawfully obtained U.S. citizenship, particularly under the previous administration."
Trump administration seeks to ramp up denaturalization of some US citizens, New York Times reports
[deleted] [✘] The end to this administration and the removal of every single MAGAite from power cannot come soon enough. I would vote to have Trump and anyone who attacked security on January 6th have their citizenship revoked and have them sent to some prison in Honduras before I would worry that some immigrant made a misstatement on their application for citizenship.
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BDS lives!
So you endorse deporting the first lady?
melania over-stayed her tourist visa and worked as a model in NYC, and then as a hand model on the lolita express ...
poor melania, looks like it's back to cleaning carpets on videos made in eastern europe ...
that's fer shure
Whatever happened to managements "new rule" on negative jokes regarding women?
I suppose that only pertained to Kamala.
gee, maybe another meta article concerning your continuous misunderstanding of the rules here is in order.
What fucking rules?
... the rules some fucking morons can't seem to comprehend.
Anything pertaining to Kamala would be old by now, would it not?
That being said the First Lady was a model, Kamala was not.
If you have girl on girl black and white "art work" by the former Vice President please share it.
Same for the scantily clad private Trump airline interior pics with gold plated guns taken while he was still married to Maples.
Not really an issue since he was still married to Ivanna when he started dating Marla.
Whatever names people call Marla or Melania, or Donald, I am pretty sure they all earned them.
No, she is considering another run.

The point, of course, is the hypocrisy of a rule that protects democrats and not Republicans.
the constitution seems to be filled with them nowadays ...
People consider things all the time and never follow through. Sometimes they make very public announcements and still fail to follow through.
Some might say that is hypocrisy,
you know, stones and glass houses and similar metaphors.
I would note that every time someone tries to publish the more questionable photos of Melania, they are filtered or removed altogether by management.
You have yet to provide similar pics of Ms.Harris so your complaint is just another example of confirmation bias.
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Did you need the glasses to get the point?
And just to be crystal clear about the word constitution...
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I [✘] think the consensus is if you write US Constitution or when referring to the US Constitution, it should be capitalized.
If referring to a general constitution, it doesn't have to.
I'm going to leave it at that.
not for humor like that ...
I capitalize what I feel like, despite the hilariously stereotypical grammar and spelling errors of others ...
hey, weight a minute.....
puns and parody are exempt ...
Agreed, as for your opinion that people who don't capitalize the word, hate the document, that is quite a stretch.
So, I guess it's my turn to leave it at that.
It should cost her the seat she is filling.
... your opinion, here's mine ...
your non-defense of the constitution should cost you your citizenship and benefits ...
that's harsh
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Or just didn't care
Anyone who spells "Constitution" with a small c shows how much they hate the document
What a nonsensical comment Chief. Is there a law about that or are you just a spelling tyrant now?
The USA has two constitutions, the Bill of Rights and the Constitution of the USA.
Each of the states and territories have a constitution.
194 other countries have constitutions despite different forms of government, even dictatorships have constitutions.
You are on a social media website that you seem to think is strictly for you to insult different users over political differences.
Whatever, pointing out spelling errors and casting judgement says a lot more about you than any imagined enemy on NT that you feel the constant need to try to insult.
have a great Friday Master Chief and thank you once again for your twenty years of service.
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‘You are on a social media website that you seem to think is strictly for you to insult different users over political differences’
Wow!!!!!
It would be nice if you directed this same post to most here in the left.
But more than that… thank you for the compliment of my service.
Probably shouldn't have married her brother.
Well, inbreeding is rumored to be kind of a thing in her home country.
it sounds like she'd be right at home in the south then ...
That is where the Democrats took the stand to hold their slaves...
You probably shouldn’t have married your sister. See how easy it is to make shit up?
You misspelled “MAGA country.”
I didn't misspell anything. Factually it's correct.
It's also correct about MAGA country. The South and Muslim countries have so many things in common. Inbreeding rumored to be kind of a thing, religious conservatives running the place, religious laws like not being able to buy alcohol in some counties or on Sundays. They also worship the same God, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Ishmael. All factually correct.
How many people are we talking about here? Hundreds? Thousands? It certainly won't be millions. Yeah, this is something that needs to be addressed and corrected. But it's not headline news.
Immigration fraud isn't any worse than fat cat banker fraud. The multinational corporations selling out the US is a much bigger problem. Why should we be impressed that Trump is blowing smoke from a tiny backyard campfire?
Ecureuil du jour ... Squirrel of the day.
Maybe. I'd be very surprised if it was more than that.
It's too easy to immigrate illegally with no paperwork, and too risky to file paperwork that may be found out as fraudulent.
Immigration fraud is not the point. The point is scapegoating “the other” so as to rally supporters against a common “enemy.”
Should laws apply to immigrants who commit fraud or not?
Scapegoat who? The immigrants did not vet themselves. Someone had to set the policy that allowed fraud. So, who is responsible?
Alleged fraud
Alleged fraud
Good question.... Malaria trump was here on a visa that did NOT allow her to work....yet she did. So should she be sent packing?
They should and they do. We already have a process for review of immigrants who have already naturalized. And of course, it's a very small number that are found fraudulent in comparison to the number of legal immigrants who have nothing to hide and did everything right. That's why this is clearly just an exercise in conservatives scapegoating the tiny handful of fraudulent immigrants to paint the large swath of legal immigrants as undesirable because the conservatives just don't want any of them here. I don't think anyone is blind to the fact that MANY rightwing conservatives are proud bigots who stupidly imagine their 'white culture' is being threatened. Why should we let those tired morons decide who is and isn't welcome in our country? I have no problem getting rid of those who are using fraud to get here, but the blatant xenophobic hysterics of conservatives is beyond embarrassing for our nation. Sadly, those xenophobes embarrassing the nation have no shame and an equal amount of intelligence.
On a side note, I see Nikki Minaj spoke at TPUSA's Amfest today, praising Trump and his administration.
I am curious.
Can someone here give us a heads up on what demeaning names she will be called by the left now, ESPECIALLY since she is a black woman?
You must hate the derogatory photo and demeaning name your fellow right winger posted at Comment 2.2.5 (above) about a black woman who was Vice-President of the United States. I'm certain you have denounced it vehemently somewhere, right? I looked and looked and looked and don't see where you did that, and we know you're not a hypocrite.
I would if the picture had something to do with her race, but since it does not, there is nothing wrong with it.
Not everyone sees race in everything.
A good lawyer would say this is free speech, just as the inevitable derogatory racist comments that will be thrown at Minaj.
Who said you and your friend don't have the right to say or post any obnoxious thing you want? The right wingers on here take advantage of their freedom to do so often, as your group's comments regularly show.
That's a right wing specialty.