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WA girl attacked in middle school locker room by other students for allegedly supporting Donald Trump, ICE: report

  

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WA girl attacked in middle school locker room by other students for allegedly supporting Donald Trump, ICE: report

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A Washington middle school girl was brutally beaten by two other students in a locker room earlier in February over her alleged support of President   Donald Trump   and ICE. This comes after a social media post the girl’s boyfriend made saying that one of his life paths would be to become an   ICE   agent. 

According to   unDivided’s   Brandi Krause, the 13-year-old girl’s boyfriend had "posted some TikToks, and in one of them he said, 'Plan A, marry a nice girl, have kids, get rich.' And then the other one, he said, 'Plan B, become an ICE agent.'" 

The 13-year-old girl was approached by two other girls in a locker room at Lucille Umbarger Middle School in Burlington, Washington. The girl and her mother told Krause that the two students demanded "to know whether she supports Donald Trump and ICE. And when she tells them it’s none of her business, they violently assault her." Video showed the girl being punched in the head by the two students as they held her hair and attempted to drag her to the ground. The two attacking students were reportedly Hispanic, while the victim was white. 

The video had reportedly been widely circulated throughout the school by students and staff, and it wasn’t until five days later that the principal contacted the girl’s mother. 

The Burlington Chief of Police told unDivided, "we do have an active case on this incident, and are working through all the details. As an active case, and involving juveniles, there’s not a lot I can release at this time beyond that." The mom said that the principal told her the school is working on a safety plan, and that the police want the school to extend the suspension of the girls who attacked until a safety plan for the victim is in place.  


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Sean Treacy
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1  seeder  Sean Treacy    9 months ago

No criminal charges were filed, but the student who punched another student for holding a pro-ICE sign at Lake Zurich High School last week received a two-day suspension and is back in class

Violence seems to be embedded in the culture. 

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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1.1  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Sean Treacy @1    9 months ago
Violence seems to be embedded in the culture.

It's like, where, where could these students have been introduced to such violence...?

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1.1  devangelical  replied to  Igknorantzruls @1.1    9 months ago

meh, at least she didn't get shot in the head or back several times. the left really needs to up their game to maga standards ... /s

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  devangelical @1.1.1    9 months ago

Trump might be the most divisive political figure in our history and that's saying a lot and yet they wonder why a fight might start

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.1.3  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Igknorantzruls @1.1    9 months ago
where could these students have been introduced to such violence...?

Being around left wingers. Pretty obviously acting out on the things they hear and see. 

You see it even here with old leftist  men fetishizing violence and openly fantasizing how they are going to kill people for disagreeing with them while  the rest encourage it.  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.1.4  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.2    9 months ago
n our history and that's saying a lot and yet they wonder why a fight might start

Always with the victim blaming.[✘]

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.1.5  Split Personality  replied to  Igknorantzruls @1.1    9 months ago

Any television. streaming service or theater nearby.  Lot's of different categories of music are pretty violent also.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.6  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.4    9 months ago

I did blame the girl who jumped the Trump fan. I said she should be punished.        Your comments are growing increasingly strange over the past few months or so.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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1.1.7  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Split Personality @1.1.5    9 months ago
Lot's of different categories of music are pretty violent also.

Don't forget video games, and lately, driven by the most divisive potUS whose encouragement of violence, well documented, and pardoning of damage doers and law enforcement attackers, along with his private little mask wearing pussys playin Army "man"

 
 
 
MrFrost
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1.1.8  MrFrost  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.4    9 months ago
Always with the victim blaming. 

Rene Good and Alex Pretti come to mind. 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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1.1.9  Jack_TX  replied to  MrFrost @1.1.8    9 months ago
Rene Good and Alex Pretti come to mind

Neither of whom should have been killed, but also neither of whom were children minding their own fucking business.

 
 
 
cjcold
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1.2  cjcold  replied to  Sean Treacy @1    9 months ago

It's definitely a hot button topic but I got into fights in middle school for less. So stop the presses and pull the pink panties out of your crack.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.2.1  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  cjcold @1.2    9 months ago
but I got into fights in middle school for less.

Two fascist girls attacking another over politics because she won't act parrot their political creed is about as pathetic and deranged behavior as possible. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.2.2  Split Personality  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.2.1    9 months ago

Nah, grown ass adults slandering 13 year old girls in an attempt to score political points 

is about as pathetic and deranged behavior as possible. 
 
 
 
MrFrost
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1.2.3  MrFrost  replied to  Split Personality @1.2.2    9 months ago
Nah, grown ass adults slandering 13 year old girls in an attempt to score political points 

Well, to be fair, we know how much trump loves a 13 year old girl. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.2.4  Right Down the Center  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.2.1    9 months ago
Two fascist girls attacking another over politics because she won't act parrot their political creed is about as pathetic and deranged behavior as possible. 

Her parents probably applauded her actions when she got home.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.3  Split Personality  replied to  Sean Treacy @1    9 months ago
Violence seems to be embedded in the culture. 

Violence is embedded in the species.

There fixed it for you

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.3.1  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Split Personality @1.3    9 months ago
iolence is embedded in the species.

Turning teenagers into  Hitler Youth isn't. 

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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1.3.2  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.3.1    9 months ago
Turning teenagers into  Hitler Youth isn't. 

What, or was it who ? Who again did JD Vance think was Hitler like...? 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.4  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Sean Treacy @1    9 months ago
iolence seems to be embedded in the culture. 

Attacks on students in America for not reciting the ritual denunciation of Trump, lynching a student in France...   

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.4.1  Split Personality  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.4    9 months ago
lynching a student in France...   

You keep repeating this as if it means something. 

Again, it isn't the misuse or the word lynching or what it means in France,  and that student was 23, not 13.

The species is predisposed to tribalistic/territorial violence. Period.

This is not news, it is as old as the smaller meaner Cro Magnons wiping out the larger, more peaceful Neanderthals.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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1.4.2  Jack_TX  replied to  Split Personality @1.4.1    9 months ago
The species is predisposed to tribalistic/territorial violence. Period.

Is there no limit to what liberals will try to rationalize?

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.4.3  Split Personality  replied to  Jack_TX @1.4.2    9 months ago
The species is predisposed to tribalistic/territorial violence. Period.

Can't argue the fact?

Pakistan declared war on Taliban Afghanistan today.  Big Shock /S

Cuba shot up a stolen American speedboat full of "terrorist" wannabes yesterday.

Another friendly fire incident over a border town when the US Army shot down a Border Patrol drone in error with their new laser gun.

Ukraine is killing Russians every day.

An armada of the US Navy sits off shore in striking range of Iran while the POTUS threatens to "wipe them off the face of the earth".

But 13 year old girls fighting in a HS bathroom are Nazis in training?  jrSmiley_88_smiley_image.gif

Pretti and others are still dead.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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1.4.4  Jack_TX  replied to  Split Personality @1.4.3    9 months ago
Can't argue the fact?

I am.  You just don't like the fact.

When conservatives are violent, you condemn them.  When liberals are violent, it's somehow the natural proclivity of the species.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.4.5  Split Personality  replied to  Jack_TX @1.4.4    9 months ago
When conservatives are violent, you condemn them.  When liberals are violent

I am terribly sorry that's all you get from being here but thanks for making yourself perfectly clear.

Keep it real indeed, Jack.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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1.4.6  Jack_TX  replied to  Split Personality @1.4.5    9 months ago
I am terribly sorry that's all you get from being here but thanks for making yourself perfectly clear.

I'm not sure how it was unclear before.

A girl was beaten over political beliefs she didn't even proclaim.  Her boyfriend posted a video.  That was her sin.  Your response is that this is natural.

If the roles were reversed, there is zero chance you make such a ridiculous excuse.  If two football players had beat the shit out of some kid because his girlfriend was wearing a Harris t-shirt, you'd be screaming about prison terms and bankrupting their parents.

If some RWer here tried to claim that was "just boys being boys", the liberal hate would crash this site.  

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.4.7  Split Personality  replied to  Jack_TX @1.4.6    8 months ago

I am sorry you are still having difficulty with this.

You accused me of behaving differently based on bias, I reject that.

I said that the species is deeply flawed.

If the roles were reversed, there is zero chance you make such a ridiculous excuse.  If two football players had beat the shit out of some kid because his girlfriend was wearing a Harris t-shirt, you'd be screaming about prison terms and bankrupting their parents. If some RWer here tried to claim that was "just boys being boys", the liberal hate would crash this site.  

Like I said, don't bother with any pretense of being a centrists anymore.  Your bias assumptions say it all.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.5  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @1    9 months ago
Violence seems to be embedded in the culture. 

And it is sanctioned wherever democrats are in power.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.5.1  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.5    9 months ago
And it is sanctioned wherever democrats are in power.

What a strange, stupid, immature partisan thing to write.

Can you show us where the Democrats have sanctioned anything Trump has done since his coronation?

So far in one year Trump has bombed Somalia, Nigeria, Syria, Yemen, Iraq, Iran, and Venezuela;

he invaded Venezuela and he has an armada ready to invaded Iran which he threatens with annihilation

While he threatens Greenland, Panama, Cuba and Canada both physically and financially.

Honestly, how low you are willing to go for a cheap insult is alarming.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.5.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @1.5.1    8 months ago
Can you show us where the Democrats have sanctioned anything Trump has done since his coronation?

My comment was:

And it is sanctioned wherever democrats are in power.

It was in response to violence.

Thus far democrat officials have sanctioned the 2020 riots and the interference with ICE agents.[✘]



 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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1.5.3  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.5.2    8 months ago
democrat officials have sanctioned the 2020 riots

Bullshit of which you can't prove because it never happened. It really is sad how deluded rightwing radio has made their listeners and how incredibly gullible they are.

and the interference with ICE agents

Again, the only thing "sanctioned" by Democrat leadership would be those telling their constituents to use their constitutional right to protest. None of them have advocated any violence against any ICE agents. But of course, the lying sacks of shit on the right will lie and make shit up as they always do because they know they'd never win an election if they didn't lie and cheat. Their white loser Christo-fascist ideology is garbage that real Americans want nothing to do with.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.5.4  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.5.3    8 months ago

"The vast majority of citations and charges against  George Floyd  protesters were ultimately dropped, dismissed or otherwise not filed, according to a Guardian analysis of law enforcement records and media reports in a dozen jurisdictions around the nation."

Most charges against George Floyd protesters dropped, analysis shows | US policing | The Guardian

More than 2,035 law enforcement officers were injured at the protests and riots during the time frame studied. The most common weapon used by the rioters against officers in the reporting cities and counties were thrown projectiles, including rocks, bricks, glass bottles, and frozen water bottles. The report says violent protesters often used a front line of peaceful protesters as human shields while they assaulted officers with thrown objects.

Officers were also commonly assaulted with commercial fireworks, impact weapons, and lasers targeting their eyes. Nearly half of the respondents said rioters had used incendiary devices. MCCA reports that some rioters used the tactic of throwing firebombs behind the officers so that they could be trapped between barriers built by the mob and the flames. A little more than half of reporting jurisdictions said they had encountered firearms during the protests and riots. One agency reported that four of their officers were shot by rioters.

The peak of the violence, according to MCCA, came during the first weekend of the protests, May 29 through June 1. The report says that violent extremists collaborated online and through social media to organize violence. “More than three quarters of agencies (78%) discovered persons that seemed to self-identify with far left ideologies, and more than half (51%) discovered persons that seemed to identify with violent far-right ideologies,” the report says.

MCCA member agencies arrested 16,241 protesters and rioters from May 25 to July 31. Nearly 17% of these arrests were for felonies and 7% of the total involved violence. Many of the cases were quickly dismissed, which may explain why 52% of the reporting agencies said they arrested the same people twice for “protest-related crimes.”

After-Action Reports on the Riots of 2020 | Police Magazine


Portland   protesters  early Wednesday began to set up tents in the park near the federal courthouse and have barricaded streets to create their own autonomous zone, likened to the since disbanded  Capitol Hill Occupied Protest  in  Seattle .

Portland protesters create own 'autonomous zone' by pitching tents, rebuilding barricades removed by police | Fox News


At  town halls  in their districts and in one-on-one meetings with constituents and activists, Democratic members of Congress are facing a growing thrum of demands to break the rules, fight dirty — and not be afraid to get hurt.

Democrats are being told to "get shot" for the anti-Trump resistance


The mayor of Minneapolis was booed with profanities and kicked out of a Saturday protest, which culminated with him being asked a yes-or-no question about whether he would support abolishing the city's police department.

Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey was forced to leave a protest outside his home led by the Black Visions Collective, a group seeking to defund U.S. police departments in favor of community-based safety measures.

Minneapolis Mayor Booed Out of Protest After Saying He’s Not in Favor of Abolishing Police Department - Newsweek



MINNEAPOLIS — Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey is calling for accuracy and unity a week after some social media posts about potential immigration raids led to protests in the city. 

Minneapolis mayor calls for unity amongst ICE protest misinformation | kare11.com


MINNEAPOLIS (AP) —  Gov. Tim Walz  faced the biggest crisis of his political career when Minnesota’s two largest cities erupted in protests and riots after a white Minneapolis police officer  killed George Floyd.

The  Black man's murder  in 2020 sparked a  nationwide reckoning  over racial discrimination and police misconduct. His death, and its complicated aftermath, tested Walz’s leadership at one of the state’s most consequential moments.

What the governor did — or failed to do — during and after the violence in Minneapolis and St. Paul drew sharp criticism from Republicans in Minnesota. Nor did it satisfy some progressives who had urged him to take bolder steps to remake policing in the state. Walz's defenders say he did an exemplary job under unprecedented circumstances.

Four years later, on the national stage as the Democratic nominee for vice president, Walz is facing similar questions and criticism: Republicans are calling him a left-wing radical who was too slow to act and some progressives are saying he was not radical enough in addressing police abuses.


Sharp divisions persist over Walz's response to the riots that followed the murder of George Floyd

 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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1.5.5  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.5.4    8 months ago
"The vast majority of citations and charges against  George Floyd  protesters were ultimately dropped, dismissed or otherwise not filed, according to a Guardian analysis of law enforcement records and media reports in a dozen jurisdictions around the nation."

WHY? BECAUSE THE MAJORITY DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG! How is this so fucking hard for rightwing conservatives to understand. There were no judges just dismissing cases where there was hard evidence of protesters attacking officers. This whole horse shit narrative is embarrassing for conservatives but they're apparently too fucking stupid to realize it. Sad. Also, 90% of your supposed "evidence" is just lame rightwing conservative horse shit websites that don't show where they get their supposed "facts". They're nothing but fucking clueless partisan dipshits talking out their ass manufacturing conspiracy theories that anyone with more than half a brain can see right through, but apparently those kinds of lies appeals to some.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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1.5.6  Jack_TX  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.5.3    8 months ago
Bullshit of which you can't prove because it never happened.

The problem here is that it obviously has.

  • Aryanna Presley. "There needs to be unrest in the streets"
  • John Lewis.  "Get in good trouble,"
  • Kamala Harris.  "they should not let up".
Again, the only thing "sanctioned" by Democrat leadership would be those telling their constituents to use their constitutional right to protest.

Oh, you mean like Donald Trump telling people to go protest peacefully on Jan 6? 

None of them have advocated any violence against any ICE agents.

Again, the problem here is that these people you're trying to protect from any and all accountability are, in fact, doing the exact things you claim they aren't.

  • Hakeem Jeffreys: "fight them in the streets"
  • Robin Kelly said ICE were the Gestapo.
  • Jasmine Crockett called them "slave patrols".
  • Max Frost accused them of "some of the worst crimes against humanity in history".  Because apparently he's never read a book.
  • LaMonica McIver said "we are at war".

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.5.7  bugsy  replied to  Jack_TX @1.5.6    8 months ago

Don't forget Walz also called ICE Gestapo

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.5.8  Split Personality  replied to  Jack_TX @1.5.6    8 months ago
The trend has drawn a  divided response . Mr. Trump and his allies have  accused  the "radical left" of fomenting violence, while Democrats  argue  that right-wing extremism is a problem, too.

It affects both sides.

It's a bipartisan problem in a country beset by polarization: Since the start of 2025, political violence has killed, injured or threatened conservative and liberal political figures alike.

This month, a pardoned Capitol rioter was   arrested   for allegedly threatening to "eliminate" House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries at an event in New York City, and a   Minnesota man was charged   with offering a $45,000 bounty for Attorney General Pam Bondi, the latest in a jarring trend of threats and violent acts against political figures. 

In September, conservative activist Charlie Kirk was fatally shot on a Utah college campus. Afterwards, the alleged shooter told his roommate, "some hate can't be negotiated out," according to   court documents .

Three months earlier in Minnesota, Democratic state Rep. Melissa Hortman and her husband were   killed at home , and state Sen. John Hoffman and his wife were shot on the same night. Two months before that, Democratic Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro's home was   set on fire   while he and his family slept.

Political violence has gripped the U.S. this year. Experts say it's not as simple as left and right. - CBS News

I mean, good grief, how many times did Trump tell rally goers to hurt hecklers?

“ Can’t you just shoot them? Just shoot them in the legs or something?”

June 2020, according to former Defense Secretary Mark Esper’s memoir, which  described  Trump having said this about protesters outside the White House (Trump has denied saying this)

“ Get smart Republicans. FIGHT!”
January 6, 2021, in a tweet before the election certification took place
“ If you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of them, would you? Seriously, okay? Just knock the hell—I promise you, I will pay for the legal fees. I promise, I promise.”
February 1, 2016, at a rally in Iowa
“ Maybe he should have been roughed up, because it was absolutely disgusting what he was doing.”
November 22, 2015, in response to a Fox News host asking about a heckler at Trump’s rally in Alabama the day before
“ They said to me, ‘What do you think of waterboarding?’ I said, ‘I think it’s great, but I don’t think we go far enough.’ It’s true, it’s true—right? We don’t go far enough. We don’t go far enough.”
February 22, 2016, at a rally in Las Vegas
“ You’ll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength, and you have to be strong.”
January 6, 2021, in claiming that the election was stolen and urging supporters to march to the Capitol
“ You take the writer and/or the publisher of the paper … and you say, ‘Who is the leaker? National security.’ And they say, ‘We’re not gonna tell you.’ They say, ‘That’s okay, you’re going to jail.’ And when this person realizes that he is going to be the bride of another prisoner very shortly, he will say, ‘I’d very much like to tell you exactly who that leaker is!’”
October 22, 2022, during a Texas rally
Feel free to correct me if the leader of either party has said things like this before.
 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.5.9  Split Personality  replied to  bugsy @1.5.7    8 months ago

Yes Bugsy, even you are right once in a while, the thing is that it insults the Gestapo which never covered their faces,

but the other similarities are striking.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.5.10  JohnRussell  replied to  Jack_TX @1.5.6    8 months ago
Oh, you mean like Donald Trump telling people to go protest peacefully on Jan 6?                                                                                                                                                      Is that  what you think Trump actually wanted ?   I didn't know you were so naive.
 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.5.11  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Split Personality @1.5.9    8 months ago
that it insults the Gestapo which never covered their faces, but the other similarities are striking

Equating ICE to the GESTAPO. 

Exactly what I would expect.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.5.12  Split Personality  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.5.11    8 months ago
Exactly what I would expect.

Why not? 

Both are/were paramilitary departments within a central government tasked with hunting down state internal criminals and the permission to use lethal force. 

We call it DHS and ICE, they called it their Gestapo and SS.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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1.5.13  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Jack_TX @1.5.6    8 months ago
The problem here is that it obviously has.
  • Aryanna Presley. "There needs to be  unrest in the streets"
  • John Lewis.  "Get in  good trouble,"
  • Kamala Harris.  "they should not let up".

Oh please, none of that is inciting violence. Not one said to "fight like hell" did they?

Oh, you mean like Donald Trump telling people to go protest peacefully on Jan 6? 

Right after he said " You don't concede when there's theft involved. Our country has had enough. We will not take it anymore ." " You will have an illegitimate president. That is what you will have, and we can't let that happen ." " If you don't fight like hell you're not going to have a country anymore " and then he said...

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" I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard! ".

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  • Hakeem Jeffreys: "fight them in the streets"
  • Robin Kelly said ICE were the Gestapo.
  • Jasmine Crockett called them "slave patrols".
  • Max Frost accused them of "some of the worst crimes against humanity in history".  Because apparently he's never read a book.
  • LaMonica McIver said "we are at war".

So, one comment from Hakeem Jeffreys taken out of context and the rest are just opinions about the administration, and seemingly accurate ones.

If this is all you've got then I'm sorry, but that is beyond thin, it's fucking translucent. Trying to claim that shows Democrat leadership "sanctioned" the 2020 "riots" is just sad. Did they 'sanction' the 96.3% of protests that had ZERO property damage or police injuries? Sure, they wanted Americans to go out and use their constitutional right to protest if they see something that isn't right which is what they did. Of course, 100% of rightwing conservatives LOST THEIR FUCKING MINDS over the less than 4% of protests that turned violent. Should anyone who was violent or vandalized or opportunistically broke into stores and looted be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law? ABSOLUTELY!! Put those dicks in jail and throw away the key. But don't sit here and try and lecture "the left" on their 96%+ peaceful protests over something that was VERY FUCKING REAL and disturbing.

Study of 2020 Protests Shows Difference Between Reality and Perception

While the summer of 2020 experienced 100 days of violence and destruction in cities, according to the U.S Department of Homeland Security,  the most recent CCC study  of 7,305 separate events in May and June suggests that 96.3% of events involved no property damage or police injuries and 97.7% of events had no injuries reported .

Your data indicates a different set of facts from that issued by official agencies. What does the information you have found tell us?

It tells us that there is often a difference between reality and perception. At different times in the last few months, the protests have been a dominant story in the news and in the political sphere. How politicians and media want to treat the protest isn’t necessarily always what’s happening on the ground. One of the reasons we want to collect the data is to get a grounded sense of what’s going on instead of just a scripted view of what people are being told is happening.

You report there was no property damage or injuries in more than 97 to 98% of protests.

When these numbers indicating peaceful protest are all so high, that should really tell us something about what’s happening. It is challenging to be writing about protests, which are ultimately about fighting over power in American society at a time when we are in such a polarized political environment. That is part of the reason why it’s so contested. I’m not a media specialist, but I do fall back on ‘if it bleeds, it leads.’ Certain imagery has an appeal in terms of ratings . Compare the visuals of throwing a trash can through a window with 20 people standing on a sidewalk holding signs and just talking.

Study of 2020 Protests Shows Difference Between Reality and Perception - UConn Today

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.5.14  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Split Personality @1.5.12    8 months ago

We call it DHS and ICE, they called it their Gestapo and SS.

Again, that you think comparing ICE to a group that rounded up millions for slaughter is valid speaks volumes about your understanding of basic history and partisanship. . 

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.5.15  Split Personality  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.5.14    8 months ago

Congratulations, at least you apparently believe in the Holocaust.

Trump's DHS and leadership is targeting 11.9 million people, just like the Germans..

Do you think the DHS has exhibited anything that even remotely indicates they care about what happens to those people?

They are "just following orders"

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.5.16  JohnRussell  replied to  Split Personality @1.5.8    8 months ago

Jack thinks Trump is irrelevant. Crazy,  isn't it?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.5.17  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Split Personality @1.5.15    8 months ago

Congratulations, at least you apparently believe in the Holocaust.

Ironic, when you are so desperately trying to minimize the Holocaust using the very  tactics decried by groups like the ADL to intimate someone else denies the holocaust.  

To apply what the us holoucast museum said in response to similarly offensive comparisons made by Tim Walz bettween illegal aliens and Anne Frank

false equivalencies for political purposes are never acceptable. Exploiting the Holocaust is deeply offensive, especially as antisemitism surges.

So continue your offensive downplaying and  minimization of the holocaust for partisan purposes, if you must, but don’t be surprised when  people think  you might be a holocaust denier. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.5.18  Split Personality  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.5.17    8 months ago

Don't you ever tire of being wrong?

I am not downplaying the Holocaust, silly child, I am trying to warn you that this is exactly how the Nazi's started,

moving less desirables to other locations, detention centers/camps etc.

and decrying feelings and political beliefs, eroding the very moral standards of Germany, to improve itself through "purification".

To quote you, your interpretation, speaks volumes about your ( lack of ) understanding of basic history and partisanship. . . but then I had Jesuits for 8 years. /s

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.5.19  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Split Personality @1.5.18    8 months ago

I am not downplaying the Holocaust

Of course you are. Ask the ADL.   

Don't you ever tire of being wrong?   silly child,

Insults. Nice.  Enforcing rules that you continuously violate yourself.  Not a good look.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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1.5.20  1stwarrior  replied to  Split Personality @1.5.18    8 months ago

Hmmm - wonder if "Indian Reservations" would fit that definition - 

And -

Hitler got the idea of this and it is "exactly how the Nazi's started, moving less desirables to other locations, detention centers/camps etc."?

Probably some Hollywood movie - you know, that was made in the U.S,A., eh?

And, he even said that that was a good idea the U.S.A. had.

Hitler praised the way the “Aryan” America conquered “its own continent” by clearing the “soil” of “natives” to make room for more “racially pure” settlers.

'Course, only 100 million Native Americans were killed by those policies - not like the 8 million the Gestapo killed.

So, who won that raffle?????

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.5.21  Split Personality  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.5.19    8 months ago

So flag it.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.5.22  Split Personality  replied to  1stwarrior @1.5.20    8 months ago
So, who won that raffle?????

The generally accepted number of casualties from WWII is 85 million, 17 millions of which were directly tied to the Gestapo and SS between 1933 and 1945.

Some people blame the US and it's policies for the direct deaths of between 1 and 1.5 million Native American.

However, since Europeans brought new disease and germ warfare to these shores in 1492, those estimates do vary wildly.

Serious scholarly investigations into the size of the Indigenous population in the Western Hemisphere before 1492 began early in the twentieth century. In 1924, Paul Rivet estimated that between 40 and 50 million people lived in the hemisphere before the 8 Counting the Dead  Indigenous Holocaust began. 9 That same year, Karl Sapper also estimated the Indigenous population in the hemisphere to be between 40 and 50 million.10 Both Rivet and Sapper later revised their estimates downward to about 15.5 million and 31 million respectively.11 In 1939, Alfred Kroeber developed a much lower estimate of only 8.4 million for the entire hemisphere.12 In 1964, Woodrow Borah announced a much larger estimate of “upwards of 100 million” Native inhabitants.13 Two years later, Henry Dobyns estimated the Indigenous population of the hemisphere to be between 90 million and 112.5 million.14 In 1976, William Denevan estimated the Indigenous population at between 43 and 72 million, the mid-point of which is more than 57 million.15 In 1987, Thornton provided an estimate of about 75 million.16 The following year, Dobyns revised his estimate significantly upward to 145 million.17 In 1992, Stannard estimated the original population of the hemisphere at about 100 million.18   A-NAS-2017-Proceedings-Smith.pdf

So whether it was 86 million or 145 million it was still and should be referred to as the Indigenous Holocaust of North America

and it should be taught and accepted that way, as real history.

Which goes back to another discussion with someone who couldn't just treat me as another member and started accusations 

 that somehow, my standing argument here (FOREVER) is that human beings are deeply flawed animals that should not be allowed off of this planet

precisely because of our unbridled, easily triggered violence to each other, is indicative of a liberal bias????jrSmiley_88_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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1.5.23  1stwarrior  replied to  Split Personality @1.5.22    8 months ago

And folks wonder why no aliens want to seriously stop and visit with us on their fly-byes.

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.5.24  bugsy  replied to  Split Personality @1.5.9    8 months ago

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Jack_TX
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1.5.25  Jack_TX  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.5.13    8 months ago
Oh please, none of that is inciting violence. Not one said to "fight like hell" did they?

It's become a laughably predictable stereotype that angry leftists categorically refuse to ever acknowledge any wrongdoing of any liberal, not matter how obvious or egregious.

 
 
 
Thomas
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1.5.26  Thomas  replied to  Jack_TX @1.5.25    8 months ago
It's become a laughably predictable stereotype that angry leftists categorically refuse to ever acknowledge any wrongdoing of any liberal, not matter how obvious or egregious.

You are right about one thing: It is a stereotype. As such it should be handled with care. The next step is prejudice, and we really do not want to go there.

Define "angry leftist".

Obviously, people such as JR and DP cannot fit this definition because I think they have both explicitly stated that this very wrongdoing should be not only acknowledged but dealt with, which runs counter to the theme of your comment.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.5.27  Split Personality  replied to  Jack_TX @1.5.25    8 months ago

It's become a laughably predictable stereotype that angry conservatives categorically refuse to ever acknowledge any wrongdoing of any conservative,

no matter how obvious or egregious.

I hope that helps you realize how silly it sounds in any version.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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1.5.28  Jack_TX  replied to  Thomas @1.5.26    8 months ago
It is a stereotype. As such it should be handled with care.

Fair, but stereotypes do not occur in a vacuum. 

Define "angry leftist".

For purposes of this forum, let's start with a person who holds liberal views and routinely expresses vitriol and character attacks on people who disagree with those views.

 
 
 
Thomas
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1.5.29  Thomas  replied to  Jack_TX @1.5.28    8 months ago
angry leftists categorically refuse to ever acknowledge any wrongdoing of any liberal, not matter how obvious or egregious.

Sorry, but you have already listed the symptoms displayed by your definition of "angry leftist". Since that lists at least two absolute attributes, it is safe to say that the forum here does not contain many, if any "angry leftists". Or are you reconsidering the ascribed characteristics?

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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1.5.30  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Jack_TX @1.5.25    8 months ago
angry leftists categorically refuse to ever acknowledge any wrongdoing of any liberal, not matter how obvious or egregious.

I've stated over and over again how anyone, right or left, who is using violence or vandalism in support of their political agendas should be arrested, tried and punished for their crimes. What is infuriating is that the same dumb fuck morons keep coming back after I point out how 96+% of the protests were peaceful and yet they STILL try and claim that it's all the "leftists" that are the violent ones and anyone on the left is supposedly condoning violence and vandalism which of course is TOTAL HORSE SHIT! So yes, I get terse when it comes to liars and morons, especially those that I see actively destroying this nation with their stupid conspiracy theories and idiotic allegiance to a convicted felon, known sexual predator and friend of a convicted pedophile who he was accused of raping a 13-year-old with. It's fucking insane that I have to even point that out.

The laughably predictable stereotypes are those who just continue to dismiss Trumps malfeasance, his gross words towards women, the two dozen accusations of sexual assault, the 24 felony convictions, the Trump charity shut down for fraud, the Trump business fined for tax fraud, his constant lies, his starting multiple foreign wars all while demanding the world give him a peace prize, vocalized militarily taking over a NATO ally, used clearly dangerous and unconstitutional tariffs to try and punish ally's who didn't like him, the list goes on and on and on and yet there are still those who stand up and say "Um, yeah, but what about Biden?". FUCK BIDEN! Fuck anything that was done in the past, what we're dealing with is what is happening RIGHT FUCKING NOW and Trump is in control and he's fucking this country with a concrete pillar covered in 24 grit sandpaper and some dipshits are still out there going "Well I guess this could be worse, remember Biden?" Yeah, we all do and it was nothing like this.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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1.5.31  Jack_TX  replied to  Thomas @1.5.29    8 months ago
it is safe to say that the forum here does not contain many, if any "angry leftists".

You're proving my point.  Thank you.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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1.5.32  Jack_TX  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.5.30    8 months ago
What is infuriating is that the same dumb fuck morons keep coming back after I point out how 96+% of the protests were peaceful and yet they STILL try and claim that it's all the "leftists" that are the violent ones and anyone on the left is supposedly condoning violence and vandalism which of course is TOTAL HORSE SHIT!

Also proving the point.  

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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1.5.33  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Jack_TX @1.5.32    8 months ago
Also proving the point.  

Proving the point that conservatives ignore the facts? Then yes, I'd agree. The blatant lies about the 2020 protests are just 1 of dozens of horse shit stories conservatives are milking for anti-liberal hate juice, so I call it out. I don't see that as much of a problem, I'm just calling lying dishonest religious conservative dipshits what they are. Is there a different phrase you'd use for folk like that? You know, the ones who claim 100% of liberals and progressives are violent vandals condoning riots when they can't even prove more than 5% of the protests were violent.

If you're a conservative claiming the 2020 election was stolen, YOU ARE A FUCKING MORON WHO DOESN'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT TRUTH! If you're a conservative claiming most of the George Floyd protests were violent, YOU ARE A FUCKING MORON WHO DOESN'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT TRUTH! If you're a conservative claiming Donald Trump didn't incite an attempted insurrection on January 6th 2021, YOU ARE A FUCKING MORON WHO DOESN'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT TRUTH! It's not a difficult litmus test but it definitely proves my point, that just about every Trump supporter I've spoken to can't defend him and can only complain about what they see as the alternative. But of course, that's likely because they still have their heads shoved up Trumps ass as every one of his dumb fuck supporters do. No wonder their perspective is all fucked up. I really do hope they get help, professional help, therapy, maybe some meds. They're going to need it after getting so fucked in their tiny brains by a draft dodging bigoted piece of shit felon and admitted sexual predator.

 
 
 
Thomas
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1.5.34  Thomas  replied to  Jack_TX @1.5.31    8 months ago
You're proving my point.  Thank you.

I’ve addressed the structure of your claim. Simply asserting that disagreement proves it isn’t an argument. Unless you’d like to make that reasoning explicit, I’m content to leave it there. 

You're welcome.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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1.5.35  Jack_TX  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.5.33    8 months ago
The blatant lies about the 2020 protests

According to liberal sources, 7% of the 2020 BLM protests turned violent.  Pretending that something which erupts into violence once in every 14 occurrences is somehow "peaceful" the most liberal math thing ever.   Anything else that turned violent that often would be shut down. 

In an average fall weekend there are 14 NFL games played.  If crowds spilled out of one of those every week and did $750,000 in property damage, they'd be outlawed.

Imagine a school breaking into a riot once every three weeks.  We'd close the place down.

But since it's liberals and they are desperate to protect their religion, we're all supposed to pretend we didn't notice $2 billion worth of America being destroyed in their group tantrum, or "peaceful protests" as they call it.  If we do notice, we're "ignoring the facts".  Because leftists love nothing more than unintentional irony.

The second moronic argument they like to make is akin to "it was the guy next to me who set the cars on fire.... I was just shouting at the sky.... so I was a "peaceful protester".... as though the declaration of riot and orders to disperse don't apply to them.  These people hate accountability like vampires hate sunlight.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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1.5.36  Jack_TX  replied to  Thomas @1.5.34    8 months ago
I’ve addressed the structure of your claim.

Yes.  You gave a shining example of its accuracy.  

There are clearly, obviously no angry leftists on this site.  Not a one.  Pay no attention to the screaming profanity about conservatives in all caps and headline typeface for multiple posts running now.  

Riiiiight.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.5.37  Right Down the Center  replied to  Thomas @1.5.29    8 months ago
it is safe to say that the forum here does not contain many, if any "angry leftists".

I can name off a half dozen (probably closer to a dozen) .

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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1.5.38  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Jack_TX @1.5.35    8 months ago
According to liberal sources, 7% of the 2020 BLM protests turned violent.  Pretending that something which erupts into violence once in every 14 occurrences is somehow "peaceful" the most liberal math thing ever.

While the vast majority of soccer matches are peaceful,   reported incidents of disorder and violence have seen a recent uptick in major European leagues. Recent data from the 2024–2025 season suggests that nearly half of professional matches in some regions now involve some form of reported incident, though most are classified as low severity.  
Recent Statistics (2024–2025 Season)
  • England and Wales : Incidents were reported at   50% of matches   (1,556 out of 3,090) during the 2024–25 season, an 18% increase from the previous year [ 1.4.2 ,   1.4.7 ].
    • High Severity : Only   7%   of these matches (106 total) involved high-severity incidents [ 1.4.7 ].

So, way less violent than your average soccer game in some places.

In an average fall weekend there are 14 NFL games played.  If crowds spilled out of one of those every week and did $750,000 in property damage, they'd be outlawed.

For context, the 2018 Eagles Super Bowl parade resulted in  $273,000 in damages  to city property, which was covered by the team, note Metro Philadelphia and  PhillyVoice .

While there is no single official report detailing a consolidated "annual monetary damage" figure caused by NFL fans, costs generally fall into three categories: security expenses, local crime impacts, and stadium maintenance.  
Security and Policing Costs
  • Team-Specific Security : Individual teams often face significant costs for game-day policing. For example, security for the   Los Angeles Rams   at the Coliseum has been estimated at approximately   $2 million annually .
  • Per-Game Taxpayer Expense : In some cities, such as   Jacksonville , the taxpayer expense for uniformed officers to patrol and direct traffic on game days has averaged around   $57,000 per game .
  • Special Event Security : High-profile events like the   Super Bowl   require massive security investments, with estimated costs reaching   $ 3.1 million   for a single game.  
    original The Florida Times-Union  +3
Impact on Local Crime
  • Increased Incident Rates : Research indicates that NFL home games are associated with a   2.6% increase in total crimes   in host cities.
  • Financially Motivated Crimes : On game days, larceny and motor vehicle thefts—often occurring in or around stadium parking lots—increase by   4.1 % and 6.7% , respectively.
  • Economic Loss : The presence of professional teams can have a negative net effect on local economies due to substitution effects and increased public service costs, with losses for NFL teams estimated at an average of  $65 million per year  per team after accounting for these factors .

Eagles fans cause chaos in Philadelphia celebrating Super Bowl win | Fox News

Riots and violent celebrations after NFL wins, such as the Philadelphia Eagles' 2018 and 2025 Super Bowl victories, often involve overturning cars, setting fires, looting, and damaging public property, frequently resulting in dozens of arrests. While specific dollar-value damage averages are rarely calculated, these incidents cause localized economic disruption.  
Common Damages and Locations
  • Philadelphia (2025):   Following the Super Bowl LIX win, fans burned a laundry truck, ripped down traffic poles, and engaged in widespread looting.
  • Philadelphia (2018):   Fans engaged in looting, lit fires, and destroyed city property, leading to many arrests.
  • Other Instances:   Historical incidents include riots after Chicago Bulls championships (1990s) and incidents involving other major league cities like Los Angeles.

It’s Not Just Eagles Fans. Why Do People Riot After Super Bowl Wins? - The New York Times

I'm not in any way justifying those who use violence or vandalism. I am pointing out the massive holes in your moronic theory however. One MASSIVE hole is that you only have the 2020 protests to keep going back to as the supposed litmus test for how apparently "violent" the left is and that even at 7% of protests is WAY TOO MANY or somehow that 7% proves the other 93% are "condoning violence and vandalism!" which of course is TOTAL HORSE SHIT AND YOU KNOW IT! If it was happening every year, you might have a point. But 2020 was an anomaly, it's just been dragged out each year like a slaughtered horse and beaten upon by fucking morons on the right.

So just stop with the tired excuses and admit that the VAST majority of liberals and progressives are NOT violent and do NOT condone violence and vandalism and the VAST majority of protests they attend are NOT violent. Those are the fucking facts whether you like it or not. Not that I expect any dishonest rightwing conservative to give a fuck about facts or truth, they did elect the most egregious liar in American history to the office of President.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.5.39  Trout Giggles  replied to  Jack_TX @1.5.36    8 months ago

Prove that DP is a leftist. I think he's stated plenty of times that he is left of center or right dead smack in the middle of center. 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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1.5.40  Jack_TX  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.5.39    8 months ago
Prove that DP is a leftist

Posts speak for themselves. Don't need to prove the rain is wet.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.5.41  Trout Giggles  replied to  Jack_TX @1.5.40    8 months ago

You inject your own bias and create a character. 

this is one big lie

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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1.5.42  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Jack_TX @1.5.40    8 months ago
Don't need to prove the rain is wet.

you do with dry humor

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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1.5.43  Jack_TX  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.5.41    8 months ago
You inject your own bias and create a character.

They create themselves with behavior patterns.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  JohnRussell    9 months ago

The girl should be punished just like any other student that started a fight

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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2.1  Jack_TX  replied to  JohnRussell @2    9 months ago
The girl should be punished just like any other student that started a fight

We are going to agree on this to a point.  They need to be punished and the politics should not be a factor.

But it's more serious than a regular fight.

I was a junior high school teacher.  Discipline is rarely uncomplicated, because fighs don't just happen in a vacuum and no two are the same.

In this case, these girls went looking for a fight, with numerical advantage against a weaker kid who has done nothing to provoke them other than belong to a group they despise.

The converse of this situation would be two football players beating up a gay kid, and we call that a hate crime.

Now these girls are still very young and somewhat stupid, so you don't want to ruin their lives over this.  But the nature of the attack could create a situation where things escalate to the broader school population when they come back. 

The school is saying all the right things. They're keeping the girls out of classes until they can figure out a plan to try to make sure this doesn't kick off again when the suspension is over. 

I don't envy the folks having to deal with this.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3  seeder  Sean Treacy    9 months ago

I asked Chatgpt about using violence to compel political conformity.  Not a bad answer and describes modern progressivism and their dream society pretty well :

Forcing someone to publicly pronounce their conformity under the threat of violence is one of the clearest signs of authoritarianism. It is not merely an attempt to regulate behavior; it is an attempt to colonize conscience. When a person is compelled to declare allegiance to an idea they do not truly hold, the harm runs deeper than physical intimidation. It fractures the integrity of the individual, creating a split between outward speech and inward belief. Over time, this coerced performance erodes the very concept of truth, replacing honest disagreement with ritualized slogans.
A society built on such fear cannot sustain genuine trust, because everyone knows that public expressions may be nothing more than survival tactics. History offers sobering reminders of how dangerous this dynamic can become. Under regimes like Nazi Party in Germany or the rule of Joseph Stalin in the Soviet Union, public declarations of loyalty were often demanded, and dissent—real or imagined—could result in imprisonment or death. Such systems thrived on spectacles of conformity, from compulsory salutes to scripted confessions. The immediate danger was violence; the long-term danger was the normalization of dishonesty. When fear dictates speech, critical thinking withers, innovation stalls, and moral courage becomes rare. Ultimately, a culture of coerced conformity does not produce unity but brittleness, leaving societies vulnerable to collapse once fear can no longer hold them together.
 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.1  Split Personality  replied to  Sean Treacy @3    9 months ago

Chatgpt has no credibility at all, thanks 

 
 
 
GregTx
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3.1.1  GregTx  replied to  Split Personality @3.1    9 months ago

Mmmm, that's surprising since it's been used here so much...

So IYO what AI does have credibility?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.1.2  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Split Personality @3.1    9 months ago

Lol. If  you say so. Good stuff. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.1.3  Split Personality  replied to  GregTx @3.1.1    9 months ago

Where does the AI get its info?  It's supposed to be a compilation of human knowledge 

which unfortunately is rife with legends, opinions and downright misinformation not to mention faith and religion.

It can also be manipulated by how the question is constructed.

Garbage in, garbage out continues to be the best rule.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.1.4  Right Down the Center  replied to  Split Personality @3.1.3    9 months ago

I totally agree.

I also think it is interesting that after months of ChatGPT being used by some members it is now you decide to say it.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.5  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Split Personality @3.1    9 months ago
Chatgpt has no credibility at all

Yet many on the left use it often.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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3.1.6  Jack_TX  replied to  GregTx @3.1.1    9 months ago
So IYO what AI does have credibility?

AI that confirms liberal bias.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.2  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Sean Treacy @3    9 months ago

Related and not a surprise:

  Conservative Americans who scored high on the authoritarianism questionnaire had no problem saying “Yes, I am authoritarian.” But liberals were a different thing entirely. Not only were liberal authoritarians less likely than conservatives to accurately identify themselves as authoritarians (when they were, in fact, authoritarian), but there was actually a negative correlation between left-wing authoritarianism (the reality) and liberals’ willingness to identify as authoritarian (their own perception). That means that the more authoritarian liberals are, the less they believe they are authoritarian!

 
 
 
MrFrost
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3.2.1  MrFrost  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.2    9 months ago
liberals’ willingness to identify as authoritarian

LOL I thought the rightists  labeled liberals as pacifists pussies? NOW they are authoritarians? FFS, pick a direction and go with it. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.2.2  Split Personality  replied to  MrFrost @3.2.1    9 months ago

The writer is a converted environmentalists from a liberal arts college who teaches at a liberal art college and writes pseudo psychological articles about why liberals are bullies and how great it is to have become a conservative.  A PHD social phycologist gone tribal on some really obscure websites. I guess AI is good at uncovering the trash.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.2.3  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  MrFrost @3.2.1    9 months ago

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Jeremy Retired in NC
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4  Jeremy Retired in NC    9 months ago
A Washington middle school girl was brutally beaten by two other students in a locker room earlier in February over her alleged support of President Donald Trump and ICE. 

Leftist clowns doing leftist clown stuff.  What happened to all that tolerance they claim they have?  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.1  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4    9 months ago

They are very tolerant of people who think exactly like them and never disagree with their dogma. 

 
 
 
Thomas
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5  Thomas    8 months ago

The demonization of larger groups of people by comparison to actions perpetrated by individuals is a textbook example of prejudice. 

From: Allport, G. W. (1954). The nature of prejudice. Addison-Wesley. (p. 9) 

   Not every overblown generalization is a prejudice  Some are 
simply misconceptions, wherein we organize wrong information. 
One child had the idea that all people living in Minneapolis were 
“monopolists/' And from his father he had learned that monopo- 
lists were evil folk. When in later years he discovered the con- 
fusion, his dislike of dwellers in Minneapolis vanished. 

Here we have the test to help us distinguish between ordinary 
errors of prejudgment and prejudice. If a person is capable of 
rectifying his erroneous judgments in the light of new evidence he is 
not prejudiced. Prejudgments become prejudices only if they are 
not reversible when exposed to new knowledge . A prejudice, un- 
like a simple misconception, is actively resistant to all evidence that 
would unseat it. We tend to grow emotional when a prejudice is 
threatened with contradiction. Thus the difference between ordi- 
nary prejudgments and prejudice is that one can discuss and rectify 
a prejudgment without emotional resistance. 

Taking these various considerations into account, we may now 
attempt a final definition of negative ethnic prejudice — one that 
will serve us throughout this book. Each phrase m the definition 
represents a considerable condensation of the points we have been 
discussing: 

Ethnic  prejudice is an antipathy based upon a faulty and in- 
flexible generalization . It may be felt or expressed. It may be 
directed toward a group as a whole, or toward an individual be- 
cause he is a member of that group. 

The net effect of prejudice, thus defined, is to place the object of 
prejudice at some disadvantage not merited by his own misconduct.  

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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6  Hal A. Lujah    8 months ago

It’s funny how there’s pretty much no media coverage of this, probably because it’s mostly void of any sort of truth. Someone find a source for this “widely circulated video”, please. I ended looking around on Reddit only to find that people are saying the same thing - even Fox News isn’t covering it. Probably because it’s just another bullshit rwnj trash article made up [deleted] [✘] who also likes to insist that Omar married her brother (despite any actual evidence.)

 
 
 
Split Personality
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6.1  Split Personality  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @6    8 months ago

Originally posted by The Post Millennial owned by a rw org.  Later picked by Ground News, which leans left, then Trending Politics and Truth Press, both right leaning.

Having said that, it appears to be a one off High School teenager problem blown way out of proportion, again. 

It isn't national news and it wasn't even State news in Washington as two peeps were arrested for rape at Long View HS a day or two later.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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7  Jeremy Retired in NC    8 months ago
A Washington middle school girl was brutally beaten by two other students in a locker room earlier in February over her alleged support of President Donald Trump and ICE.

Another example of the "tolerance" from the left.  Wonder where they learned it from.

 
 

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