Death of a facade
Link to quote: Trump on Robert Mueller’s Death: ‘Good, I’m Glad He’s Dead’
Yesterday the man who led the FBI on the heels of the September 11, 2011, terror attacks and was later appointed special counsel in charge of the Russia/Collusion "investigation" died. He was 81 years old. He a had distinguished career in both the military and the FBI.
I want to go on record as being against the President's disgusting comments regarding the death of Mueller. Furthermore, the President is wrong about Mueller hurting him or anyone else.
Why do I say that?
Because Robert Mueller IMHO did not run the Russia/Collusion investigation (which was a sham.) I believe that the highly partisan Andrew Weissmann ran it.
Andrew Weissmann
As a prosecutor the New York Times described him as a win-at-all-costs type. In the Enron case he wanted the district judge to instruct the jury that they could convict the firm regardless of whether its employees knew they were violating the law. That helped get a conviction which destroyed the company of Enron. The SCOTUS overturned that conviction. He continued such tactics as the lead prosecutor on the Mueller investigation which ended with Trump associates being convicted of irrelevant process crimes and the team erasing their cell phone history.
And oh yes, there was the final "report" which failed to prove a conspiracy between Trump and Russia had ever taken place.
So, if I am correct and Weissmann ran the investigation what was the need for Mueller?
Here is my firm belief:
The Mueller team was totally comprised of Trump hating democrats from Weissmann down. They needed credibility, so they named someone who had a good record and was a registered REPUBLICAN. Robert Mueller had one more essential ingredient: He had grown senile and he may have already had Parkinson's disease. All the way through that investigation we heard how noble and responsible it was for Mueller to never comment on the investigation or anything else for that matter.
When it was over we finally heard from Mueller:
"Mueller deflated Democrats during a highly anticipated congressional hearing on his report when he offered terse, one-word answers and appeared uncertain in his testimony. Frequently, he seemed to waver on details of his investigation. It was hardly the commanding performance many had expected from Mueller, who had a towering reputation in Washington."
A Look Back At The Long Career Of Robert Mueller | HuffPost Latest News
It was shocking to see the state he was in. And that boys & girls is what will go down in history.
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From Mueller's Report:
"But, in perhaps the most memorable language of the report, Mueller pointedly noted: “If we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the president clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, we are unable to reach that judgment.”
A Look Back At The Long Career Of Robert Mueller | HuffPost Latest News
I got it right from the choking horse's mouth.
This paragraph clearly implies Mueller thought Trump could be indicted for obstruction of justice once his term ended. Why you think this paragraph helps your cause is totally inexplicable.
Since his appointment was questioned and nothing done to correct the problem, what Meuller thought is as irrelelvelant as what you think.
Imagine going from "collusion" to "obstruction" without ever proving the former.
What would it be like if someone were being investigated for something without cause and in the process being found guilty of obstructing such an investigation?
The whole thing was an outrage. It was an attempt to remove a duly elected President.
Imagine doing that and knowing it was all a fabricated lie.
That is what really makes the whole "investigation" and "findings" a joke. There was no real probable cause to investigate.
That's exactly what it was. He beat them at their own game. Embarrassed them on a global scale (not like they needed help).
He sure did. He won at least twice, despite it all!
and the support only grew when it was exposed about the hoaxes pushed by the Democrats.
Right? It really is stunning how completely ass backwards Trump and his supporters viewed the conclusions of the investigation that did find Russian interference and found Trumps campaign manager “represented a grave counterintelligence threat” and had given highly sensative voter data to the Russians through Kilimnik.
Of course, if all those facts had been presented against Clinton and her campaign manager “represented a grave counterintelligence threat” rightwing conservatives would have screamed she's a Russian traitor and demanded her execution. But since it was about their guy, they ignored it, downplayed it and basically just covered up for their scum bag dear leader. But that's what total pieces of shit do, so no surprise. They're still doing it in fact and it's really sad to watch. And on top of it all they're disparaging a recently deceased veteran and man who served his country faithfully. Fucking losers.
As far as the mueller investigation goes, his Biden like testimony makes it pretty clear he was just a figure head who signed documents while his staff ran hog wild trampling peoples’ rights in a desperate attempt to find trump guilty of some process crime because they knew from the jump “collusion” was a myth.
RIP to the mueller cult as well. Progressives spent the entire investigation believing he had all this secret information and hyping the inevitable putting of trump and company in a super max (thanks to a gullible press mindlessly hyping partisan leaks) while ignoring the court filings that showed it was dud.
remember the endless bombshell emojis added to the “breaking news” of the day supposedly demonstrated trump was now definitely dead to rights? Good times
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Future generations will wonder how they got away with it.
Mueller’s indictments pre report made it clear there was no collusion. Yet the left wing echo chamber hyping the myth of secret evidence that would prove collusion kept the gullible believing in it until the end, with the really depraved still clinging to belief in it.
That is inaccurate. There was plenty of evidence of collusion!
Trump pardoned Paul Manifort and Roger Stone for purgury, refusing to testify and giving false evidence about collusion.
Future generations will wonder how anyone could have voted for Trump three times.
Vic claims future generations will take Trump's side in all this , and you don't seem to be far off that opinion. That is delusional. Supposedly the Mueller report "completely exonerated" Trump (according to him) still he hates the mans guts. Hmmm. Maybe dumbass realizes the Mueller Report did not exonerate him.
Muellers biggest mistake was in respecting the office of the president too much, which led him to be a little wishy washy about Trump.
Mueller, nor anyone else, ever indicted a single American for colluding with Russia in the election. Not one.
rump pardoned Paul Manifort and Roger Stone for purgury, refusing to testify and giving false evidence about collusion
Manafort and Stone were convicted of crimes (not conspiring with Russia) well before Trump ever pardoned them.
Gee Why would Trump hate the man who consumed most of his first term investigating an accusation he knew had no merit?
Can you not at least understand why someone might be angered by that?
uellers biggest mistake was in respecting the office of the president too much,
No. Proceeding for years when he had no evidence of an underlying crime in the hopes of "getting" him with a process crime was his biggest mistake. It ruined his reputation (that was already battered by persecuting Richard Jewell etc..)
Mueller should never have been appointed. The prudent thing was for the FBI to simply investigate and the DOJ prosecute Russian interference without the red herring of "collusion"
Mueller never said Trump and his campaign were innocent of anything, he said he could not meet the standard for an indictment for collusion.
There is NO chance history will be kind to Trump about the 2016 election. He lied about having no business dealings with Russia, asked Russia to hack his opponents computers, and accepted help through Russias leaks to Wikileaks (which his confidante Roger Stone tried to co-ordinate with Julian Assange. The FBI had every right and cause to investigate Trumps campaign. THAT will be the verdict of history, not Trumps delusional lies. Not to mention his son and son in laws meeting with a Russian agent to try and obtain Russian dirt on Hillary Clinton. If you don't want to get dirty then don't roll around in the mud.
Of course not. His actions did. Not a single American within or without his campaign was indicted for conspiring with Russia.
NO chance history will be kind to Trump about the 2016 election. He lied
Trump told many lies in a campaign against another liar. That's undoubtedly true. That of course, is not the same as "colluding" with an enemy to fix an election.
Not to mention his son and son in laws meeting with a Russian agent to try and obtain Russian dirt on Hillary Clinton
Who of course used campaign funds to hire a cutout to meet with Russian spies to try and dig dirt on Donald Trump....
Trump just repeats his crap hundreds of times (literally) until his followers think that if "everybody" is talking about it it must be true.
Since 2020 Trump has probably said a thousand times that that election was stolen from him. He has never produced a scrap of evidence that anyone would take seriously. And yet his "followers" take his claims as gospel truth. Why don't you spend some time worrying about that ridiculous situation?
If Trumps life depended on it he could not talk coherently for three minutes about how the election was stolen from him. He couldn't even talk coherently about 2016, and you know it. But millions of people listen to him. Its insane.
And that's why they convicted Trump and he was removed from office / S
Previous generations are already flummoxed with anyone who voted for Clinton, Biden and Harris, in that order. Lawdy, lawdy …. how could it be?
Yes. It is.
Future generations will not remember any of this.
If you doubt that, ask a 25 year old to tell you everything they know about Iran Contra or Whitewater.
We can't forget the "we got him now" articles that were put up here on NT.
No — the Mueller Report did not exonerate Donald Trump. In fact, Robert Mueller explicitly stated that his investigation did not clear Trump of wrongdoing, especially regarding obstruction of justice.
🧾 What the Mueller Report Actually Said
🔍 1. On Obstruction of Justice
Mueller’s team examined multiple episodes where Trump may have attempted to interfere with the investigation.
The report states: “If we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state.” They did not so state.
Instead, Mueller deferred judgment to Congress, indicating that the evidence could support obstruction charges.
🕵️ 2. On Collusion / Conspiracy with Russia
The investigation did not establish that the Trump campaign conspired with Russia to influence the 2016 election.
But Mueller also emphasized that “not establishing” a conspiracy is not the same as exoneration.
🗣️ 3. Mueller’s Own Testimony
When asked directly in Congress whether the report exonerated Trump, Mueller replied: “No.”
🧠 Why the Confusion?
Trump repeatedly claimed the report was a “total exoneration,” but fact-checkers and the report itself contradict that. The Associated Press called this claim false, noting that Mueller explicitly declined to exonerate him.
The Miriam Webster dicktionary of partisan Anglish meanings?
Mueller didn't even know who Fusion GPS was....
Trump couldn't even spell Fusion GPS
He has done quite well for a man who you say, "can't spell."
R U strait up a tempting to be serious...?
Denial is a very ugly trait.
I'd agree. What is baffling is how so many still a tempt to deny who and what your guy there in the White Power and Pussy grabbin House of pains, actually is.
He strait up spelled straight wrong, cokakafeee, keeps him up tweetin all night cuz no one else wants totweet to his tiny little bird gone wild,
the asz clown iz a special needs child
Branch, poodle, octane, window-sill, nusslet number …..
Let me go out on a limb, bitch in about the bassturd who has increased our High Octane bi opened door headers bearing the Not so Nach oh Supreme liter, to carry the load the quart appointed cheater did bring, who can't seem to figure out the R factor due to never bean a prime numero Uno wanna bee DICK tater twot grabbin back stabbin btu grabbin fore being sew insulated from reality asz he has become the perp perpetually polluting peep holes due to those who refuse to sea, just how deep a scum suckin bottom of the swamp sucker can muster yet still knot see, as the pedo protector and violater who be wishin to still be cherry a buster, can Blossom tossin her hat in the ring around our collar, as Billions of corrupted ill gotten dollars, should bother N E n ALL, not just those with minds so small, cause watt eye said , mite get under ones skin, though, not my call
Physicists theorize, 90% of the Universe is Dark Matter/Energy. Now THAT is crazy.
So true. A century ago, he would have been the child the family locked away in a tower so as to not embarrass the family name. But today he's beloved by morons everywhere, kind of like that dumb fuck character from those Ernest goes to Camp movies. Maybe that's what these stooges like about Trump, he can connect to them on the intellectual level of a brain damaged carnival worker.
Joseph Goebbels would have loved copilot.
And Trump apparently loves Joe
The average American "Joe!"
I'm sure rightwing religious conservative fascists would know exactly what he loves, but it seems he'd be prouder of your comment trying to distract and deflect than the comment you're replying to.
"An FBI agent assigned to then-special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign has made bombshell allegations charging that misconduct, political bias, and “overzealous thoughts” permeated the team — to the point of festooning the walls of their office with anti-Trump cartoons and drinking alcohol while on the job.
A “Let’s get him” attitude colored the two-year investigation into false claims that Trump and his advisers colluded with Russia to win the 2016 presidential election, the unidentified agent said.
The allegations were first made in December 2020, when the agent was interviewed as part of an internal FBI probe into alleged misconduct by then-supervisory intelligence analyst Brian Auten — a central figure in both the Russia collusion hoax and the Hunter Biden laptop cover-up .
In a Sunday night letter to Attorney General Pam Bondi and FBI Director Kash Patel, Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) detailed the most troubling aspects of the agent’s account, saying it “confirms long-standing concerns that political bias rotted the decision-making process within the Mueller team … The American public deserve answers.”
Among the most damning allegations:
Mueller’s investigation ran until March 2019, at a cost to taxpayers of more than $30 million, but found no evidence of Russia collusion .
In May 2023, another special counsel, John Durham, released a report describing the Trump-Russia probe as “seriously flawed” and finding that the FBI “discounted or willfully ignored material information that did not support the narrative of a collusive relationship between Trump and Russia.”
Grassley has asked Bondi and Patel to produce all emails, files and personnel records relevant to the agent’s allegations by March 29."
Exclusive | Mueller probe cut corners, broke rules to 'get Trump,' whistleblower claims
Given his appointment as Special Prosecutor was put into question, Meuller couldn't charge or exonerate Trump. It was a good opinion piece for covering a hoax.
What hoax? Russia did interfere in the election in an effort to aid Trump and Trump campaign staff sought Russian help. Those are facts.
The only 'hoax' is that Trump called the Russian investigation a hoax and his apparently really fucking stupid and gullible supporters actually believed him. What a bunch of fucking losers. And what's even more sad is they're still lying about it trying to call it a hoax after all these years. It would be hilarious if it was such a sad commentary on so many morons.
Russian has been interfering with the US since they were the USSR. I guess it was well and good with left when they were attacking the other side but now it suddenly is an issue for them?
Get a clue
That's certainly the way a Russian apologist would form their argument.
Sadly, many liberals these days have real trouble with the truth. Inconvenient as it may be,
That is always the fallback position. We know Russia interfered and China later interfered as well to help defeat Trump:
The FBI under former Director Christopher Wray is facing renewed scrutiny for allegedly suppressing an intelligence memo warning of alleged Chinese efforts to interfere in the 2020 election on behalf of then-candidate Joe Biden , the latest in a series of damaging disclosures casting a shadow over Wray’s tenure.
FBI's alleged cover-up of Chinese 2020 plot marks another stain on Wray’s legacy
The Mueller investigation was about Trump colluding with Russia to win an election.
It is the epitome of dishonesty to pretend it was simply about Russian interference.
"Robert Mueller is dead, but his toxic legacy lives on in the destroyed lives of the innocent victims targeted by the Russia collusion probe that bears his name.
To understand why President Trump had no kind words for the former FBI director when he died over the weekend at age 81, you have to understand the human toll on the president and dozens of his friends and allies.
Who knows whether Mueller, who had Parkinson’s, was in command of all his faculties when he was appointed special counsel at age 72? But the deep state evildoers on his team knew exactly what they were doing when they used his formerly prestigious reputation to pervert the course of justice for their “Get Trump” frolic.
In the end, the Mueller gang found no Russian collusion by the Trump campaign , but they crippled Trump’s first presidency anyway, and their witch hunt continued through the Biden administration and even into last year, through covert surveillance, subpoenas, debanking and crippling legal costs that were incurred even without charges being brought.
Independent journalist Catherine Herridge’s searing interview with longtime Trump ally Michael Caputo last week gives you a glimpse into the Kafkaesque nightmare he endured at the hands of Mueller and his henchmen, such as Andrew Weissman, Brandon Van Grack, Zainab Ahmad, Aaron Zelinsky and Walter Giardina.
The FBI investigation into Caputo only ended after he made a personal appeal to Trump last December, he says.
There are so many others like Caputo who deserve accountability.
First come the revelations. Gradually, we are learning more details about the unprofessional atmosphere in the Mueller office.
One of the central players was Giardina, a “very liberal” FBI agent who was fired from the bureau last year , according to new insights from a colleague who worked with him on the Mueller probe.
Giardina, who performed financial tasks in the special counsel office, was outspokenly biased against Trump, was convinced the lurid allegations in the discredited Steele dossier were true, and believed the president was a Russian agent, said his former colleague, who has been interviewed by the FBI.
“Walter Giardina was very liberal in his politics and very biased in his discussions about political matters and in how he felt about people in the Trump administration,” said the unnamed agent.
“Giardina was convinced this [Russia collusion] was the biggest investigation in the bureau and was a true believer. Giardina read and believed the Steele dossier.”
The “Steele dossier” was a Hillary Clinton campaign smear sheet concocted by British former spy-for-hire Christopher Steele that falsely alleged Trump had participated in “golden showers” with prostitutes in a Moscow hotel and was being blackmailed by Vladimir Putin.
These new revelations about Giardina’s anti-Trump hostility confirm previous claims by Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) that he was the FBI’s “Agent Zero,” who kept popping up in numerous anti-Trump operations.
Giardina played a “significant role” in the prosecution of Trump advisers Peter Navarro, Dan Scavino and Roger Stone, the Hillary Clinton cases, and in various “Get Trump” operations such as Arctic Frost, Crossfire Hurricane — and Mueller’s investigation, for which he received an award.
Grassley last year wrote to AG Pam Bondi and FBI Director Kash Patel, providing whistleblower allegations of Giardina’s “misconduct while on the taxpayers’ dime that ought to be investigated.”
Miranda Devine: We’re still learning the full rot of the Russiagate scandal
The fact that some poor conservative saps actually believe this horse shit is hilarious. The fact that they continue to disparage an honest hard-working deceased veteran is shameful, but to be expected by these treasonous un-American scum bags.
I am a bit curious, if that read "One of the central players was Giardina, a “very conservative” FBI agent who was fired from the bureau last year, according to new insights from a colleague who worked with him on the Mueller probe." what would be your reaction? I'll bet most conservatives would read that and say "What? Why the fuck was he fired? What's wrong with being a conservative?!". And yet when it's a 'liberal' they immediately assume that government worker must be a 'nefarious agent' of the liberal agenda willing to do and say anything for their cause! People who think like that, that their 'partisanship' is righteous while anyone else showing signs of partisanship must be canceled, are either slimy dishonest scum, or abject morons.
Obama & Biden politicized the FBI.
When the FBI investigates parents and Catholics it should be enough.
Oh, so that makes it okay for Trump and Republicans to do it? Also, it's a total bullshit claim. I don't buy it one bit. All these supposed new revelations coming from the supposed victim who is a known fucking liar and convicted felon. I trust conservatives about as far as I can throw three Donald Trumps stacked on top of each other. Donald Trump is a proven liar, anyone who believes that piece of shit isn't worth my time. And anyone using what that lying sack of shit says to okay unethical and likely illegal behavior by saying "Well they did it first!" can go fuck themselves, it will likely be a better use of their time.
Of FFS do some goddamn research already. Start HERE .
This is more an indictment on government overreach than on Mueller as a human being. Law enforcement (including the FBI) is rife with examples of rights violations and overreach. Here’s a great example of such.
As to the President's terrible remarks regarding Mueller's death, I believe Brit Hume summed it up best:
"Mueller’s family didn’t deserve the president’s grave dancing. None of Trump’s many enemies do. But Trump also didn’t deserve Russiagate. Nearly a decade after that phony scandal, our republic is still trying to recover."
Brit Hume on X: "Quote: "Mueller’s family didn’t deserve the president’s grave dancing. None of Trump’s many enemies do. But Trump also didn’t deserve Russiagate. Nearly a decade after that phony scandal, our republic is still trying to recover." https://t.co/CkJw5zLAtC" / X