First round of US-Iran talks in flux after canceled signing ceremony
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Via: vic-eldred • 5 months ago • 123 commentsBy: Caitlin Doornbos Published (New York Post)
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Plans are up in the air over Friday's planned first round of US-Iran nuclear talks after Washington and Tehran called off a formal signing ceremony.
A source familiar with the Iranian delegation's plans said they will determine in the coming hours whether the Tehran team will be in Switzerland for the talks.
Pakistani Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif — whose nation leads mediations — on Thursday canceled his trip to Switzerland, where the talks are set to take place. It remains unclear whether another Pakistani official — such as Field Marshal Asim Munir, who has played the largest role in the mediations — will take his place.
A time has not yet been confirmed, and many other details — including the roster of individuals involved — remain elusive, The Post has learned from officials in multiple countries involved.
The hubbub comes after President Trump and Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian on Thursday signed the US-Iran memorandum of understanding to reopen the Strait of Hormuz and kick off nuclear negotiations over a 60-day period, scrapping the Friday ceremony.
For now, US, Iranian, Pakistani and Qatari leaders are still scrambling to pull off the event, with no plans to cancel the talks as a whole.
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I know that democrats and even some Republicans think that this deal is horrible, but I'm sure Iran is dedicated to dragging it all out to get as close to the midterms as possible. In the meantime, we had a 32 military operation followed by over 2 months of negotiations. Gas prices are down to the $3 range in many places, and the economy will take precedence for Trump.
IMHO democrats are rooting for Iran, but Trump may just pull another Ace out of the deck.
Trump is all in on a pair of twos, and he’s holding his cards backwards.
state here for the record, and your readers, how much better trump's deal is than the one he tore up.
the trump deal is the maga definition of unconditional surrender ...
No surprise many on the left are "congratulating" the enemy.
I don't see many intelligent people congratulating trump and his negotiators ...
Not surprising many leftists are calling POTUS the enemy. Imagine the poutrage if a R called a D president that.
Who? Show me who is congratulating Iran. People recognizing that Trump got the losing end of this 'deal' (and thus we all got stuck with the consequences) is not congratulating Iran.
Do you think Trump improved on the JCPOA or did he make it worse (at a high human, monetary, and credibility) cost?
he already has. would you like me to post all the videos here?
Sure. If you have a video of Trump calling a specific D president by name as the enemy, I would like to see it.
He has called democrats in general the enemy, but that is tame compared to what democrats have called him and his supporters.
DNFTT
They are criticizing the incompetence of Trump. Why are you not doing likewise?
Who cares about what they have to say. Those are the same dimwits that have been rallying for the President and the country to fail.
$3.26 where I am and 5 DOZEN eggs are $7. Stark difference from 2022.
You dishonestly compare the worst point under Biden. The appropriate comparison is from Jan 20,2025. What was handed to Trump and what did he do with it?
I took a point 2 years into Biden's term and compared it to a point 2 years into Trump's term. Just because YOU don't like it doesn't mean it's dishonest.
Wrong, it is dishonest because you compared the worst point under Biden rather than the state of the economy that Trump inherited.
It is common practice to look at what a PotUS inherited and the state of the nation when he left. Dishonest partisans will cherrypick to find the worst points to compare.
What was the state of the economy when Trump took office and what is it now?
Do you recognize how Trump has fucked things up economically, morally, internationally, strategically, environmentally, etc.? There really is no denying it at this point. Attempts to defend Trump are foolish.
Do you also think that the reflecting pool was vandalized ... do you buy Trump's outrageous bullshit?
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Your pathetic games. It has nothing to do with me.
Cherrypicking is wrong. You are not going to persuade anyone with that foolish nonsense.
You are trolling.
Do you believe the reflecting pool was vandalized?
Unless I am mistaken it is your comment and you get to pick any two points you want.
And one that still rings true.................
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It's funny how outraged they are that after both Obama, Clinton, Biden and Harris saying something must be done about Iran, it's funny that the ONE President that did something is somehow the "bad guy".
trump stepped on his dick to the tune of $100+ billion so far, and then ended up with a deal much worse than the one he tore up, and maga wants to know why every american isn't celebrating their cult leader's incompetence with them. happy 4th maga!
Trump did what all his predecessor FAILED to do and you all just can't deal with it.
You actually support Trump's Iran war fiasco???
What, exactly, did Trump accomplish with his war that was net positive?
Trip over his own tiny dick completely unassisted?
He started an unnecessary unprovoked war and then got himself backed into a corner thinking he could bomb them into submission but finally understood after I'm sure he's been told a thousand times, the US can't control the straights without a lot of boots on the ground. And of course, since this isn't even a "war" according to some lying sycophants, it's hard to sell sending in hundreds of thousands of US soldiers just to cover for a Presidents moronic miscalculation. So now he's bending over backwards to please Iran, just like his dumb fucking idiot supporters wanted him to do, right? /s
Awww, cut Jeremy some slack. It’s partially true - other Presidents have failed to fail, but Trump excels at failing.
You really have to wonder sometimes if perhaps they shouldn't even be trusted with the blunt scissors anymore...
... yeah, he surrendered the strategic strait of hormuz to iran and abandoned yet another mideast ally.
He not get Iran to the negotiations table. Some thing all his predecessors FAILED to do.
Its cute that you think you know how long this has been going on.
At what point would a war with Iran be a necessary and provoked war? After they dropped a nuke on us?
despite all evidence, you can't bring yourself to admit trump's iran deal is worse than the one he tore up ...
Oh no? Then how did Obama ever "negotiate" his Iran deal?
After they dropped a nuke on us?
Iran is a dictatorship with a death grip on its citizens. Why would a country go to these extremes to control the populace only to throw it all away on mutually assured destruction? They know that the one nuke they would launch would justifiably be the firey end of their civilization. More boogeymen bullshit.
Well, most rational persons would think it would be provoked if they attacked us first, that being what "provoked" means. And necessary would be something the majority of Americans agreed together was something they had to do for the safety and security of the nation. Neither of those things apply in this case. Oh, and on top of that, for them to drop a nuke on us they would have to have one, which they didn't. Perhaps we should round up all the white conservative Christians and incarcerate them just in case one of them tries to bomb a clinic or shoot another doctor since apparently preemptive policing is what MAGA is into nowadays.
Do you really think they care about that?
So you want to wait until they do and use it so we are provoked and can attack them then.
Sounds like a plan.
I didn't see you present any. And you don't think I noticed you all have deflected away from my initial comments?
Cool story. Void of any links, so...
I am curious about something. Why are you all comparing Obama and Trump? Why not include Biden in the comparisons? What are you all afraid of?
I honestly think that's what they are hoping for.
Obama - "I can run" vs 'I can barely walk' - Trump
But hey, don't let reality wash away your rightwing conservative dystopian fantasies.
As long as Trump is president it seems to be.
I never thought I would see Americans hope for the failure of the country. Unless the bots have infiltrated this site.
Personally if I hated where I lived as much as some of them seem to I would move.
Too bad we can't trade them for the visitors for the world cup. They appreciate the US more than too many of our own citizens.
Yes. Sentient beings care about not being nuked into oblivion.
Unless the bots have infiltrated this site.
Why are you skipping over Biden?
I don't see you proving me wrong. Although you haven't once done that after all this time.
I agree if they are rational. You saying Iran is rational and cares about it's people? You think they would have a problem becoming martyrs if it means taking us out with them? You looking to buy beachfront property in the Sahara desert?
Now given NONE of them are leaving, it's an indication that things aren't as bad as they think it is.
I'd be all for that swap.
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You use the face palm emoji after that which is apropos considering how moronic that straw man you create is. Democrats were not just "waiting" for Iran to get a nuke, we had a comprehensive plan in place which was WAY better than this piece of shit MoU that Trump sycophants are defending. I guess it is rather impressive to see some of Trumps colon polyps out here defending him and his moronic decisions, it seems his ass dwellers have way more energy than their host does.
Next bot strategy - claim the humans have never embarrassed the shit out of the bots by exposing their nonsense.
Oh, is that where the line between rational and irrational is? You’re only irrational when you’re ok with getting your country annihilated by numerous nuclear bombs? Of course they are irrational, but that does not automatically put them in a death cult. They want to survive to spread their ideology, not get ten seconds of Allahu Akbar.
If Iran got a dirty bomb in on us and was able to detonate it, leftists would be screaming
Trump did nothing to stop Iran.
I honestly think they are pissed Iran didn't get one through.
No bots.
Hating America is the in thing for some on the left these days.
Says the guy that has more than once accused conservatives here as being bots.
Those who continue to support Trump are working for the failure of our nation. How can you not recognize this obvious fact?
Amazing that someone would even consider posting such a ridiculous attempt to defend Trump. Yeah, he got Iran to the negotiating table and then produced terms that, if enacted, would be far worse that JCPOA. Hello?
You are unaware of JCPOA??
What ever that point is had not been met. Trump should have used diplomacy (if he has any diplomats in his administration) rather than bomb, demand, back-down, and then accept terms that leave us all far worse than before he started bombing.
You recognize that, right?
Because Obama was the most recent PotUS (other than Trump) to negotiate terms with Iran. See?
That would be an absurd hope that is out of touch with reality.
They seem fine with being martyrs
Seems some are willing to make martyrs out of Americans if it can be spun into making Trump look bad.
Pathetic
First, Trump said he obliterated their nuclear capabilities last year.
Second, what, exactly, did Trump accomplish this year with his bombing to thwart Iran? How did he ensure they will not use their wealth (if this 'deal' is realized) to develop nuclear weapons?
Trump set us back. Pretend Trump is a D and then evaluate the facts.
An example of Trump how Trump supporters have resorted to inventing complete bullshit to criticize. The strawman tactic taken to a new level.
Criticize Trump. There you have hard cold reality, real facts that deserve criticism.
They seem fine with being martyrs
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I just saw this headline, but couldn't read the article behind the paywall:
Vance says Iran agrees to nuclear inspection as under Obama...
I'm sure the irony will be denied and deflected by the MAGA sycophants.
Of course those who still support Trump will parrot whatever bullshit excuses and lies Trump puts forth.
Hell, people are actually trying to push this ridiculous/sick vandalism of the reflecting pool excuse.
Show us the videos from the security cameras surrounding the reflecting pool of people vandalizing the pool!
Dont you know? The cameras were vandalized too. /s
Or they just weren’t functional, like the ones around Epstein’s prison cell.
Trump says a 300 ft long gash was cut down the middle of the pool with a box cutter.
Who believes this outrageous bullshit from Trump?
And for Trump supporters who recognize this despicable lying, why do you continue to support this incompetent, pathologically lying con-artist?
Parts of this thread have been removed for back-and-forth insults. Knock it off! Only warning!
And, of course, you think this 'deal' is great, right?
Explain to us all how we are net better off with this concept of a 'deal' than with the JCPOA.
I don't like it either. I'm counting on Iran to remain defiant and not sign it. The weakness of western democracy is all to obvious. They will continue to use it.
As I have already said, I hope the military campaign against Iran resumes right after the midterms.
POS/POTUS trump ...
The weakness of Trump and his cult.
So you are one of the Republicans that you mentioned.
Do you recognize the incompetence of Trump? His incompetence did not start with the Iran disaster you know. It started with his brain-dead-stupid tariffs.
Fuck yeah! Let's make more orphans that grow up to be terrorists... We'll even get Mexico to pay for it! /s
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To what end?
Explain to me what the objective would be, how success is measured, exit strategy, and at what cost?
No, the weakness of western democracies, that require winning elections. Iran is well aware that Trump is facing the midterms and the conflict is serving as an albatross.
Nope.
I believe Trump thought that if he killed off the Iranian leadership with one quick surgical strike, he would have regime change. You may recall the war began because someone came to Trump and told him that all the high-ranking Iranian officials were together in one room. So, he bought that and he struck, the lower tiers of the regime were just as dedicated to the cause as were the top leaders.
We all know that he needs an out because it is only a matter of months before the midterms. So, he is making a deal that might benefit the economy. I have no idea how it will turn out but as we all know, the dems should win the House. I believe it was a noble cause, and I hope that at the right time, he finishes the job.
Killing off the regime.
proving that grandpa dementia can't see past the end of his nose when it comes to the cause/effect of his foreign policy ...
the senate is in play now too, thanks to the wannabe mad king ...
If Trump had made smart moves (instead of brain-dead-stupid ones) he would not be hobbled by the midterms.
You are actually faulting democracy itself and our constitutional Republic rather than fault Trump. Amazing.
I'm simply stating a truth once expressed by the daughter of Stalin. Leaders of democracies are hostage to elections
Supreme leaders of murderous regimes are not.
And you do not recognize the incompetence?? What foolish thinking to presume that a killed-off leadership would not be replaced with the next generation?
It was demonstrably a fools errand. Hindsight is 20/20 here so why is it that everyone does not see what has taken place and see the incompetence?
Do you advocate Trump becoming an authoritarian ruler?
When they have a nuclear missile capable of hitting the US they will use it. That is why the regime must be terminated.
Of course not.
You can't see the point that democracy is at a disadvantage in fighting a dictatorship? We don't want dictatorship, but that point cannot be denied
the okie ass-licker trump has running the DHS is advocating dumping the constitution ...
It seems to be the only thing Iran will pay attention to. I don't think he should wait.
they sure as hell will now, thanks to trump, and guess who is going to pay for it ...
he might as well go out with a bang ...
An obvious fact missed by so many.
Yea, and they wouldn't have before Trump. S/
Yes, they will try to kill all infidels.
It would be great to eliminate the regime. Bombing alone does not accomplish that. And given the way Trump encouraged the Iranians to revolt and then left them hanging, he has made it even more difficult to foster a revolution.
Trump is an incompetent fool. He is dangerous as PotUS.
Where do you find people claiming that Iran does not want to kill the USA??
Where did you get this nonsense? Read @1.4.13 again.
You are trying to defend Trump by saying that his hands are tied by virtue of our democracy.
Guess what, Vic, nobody forced Trump to start a war with Iran. Especially since the lying sack of shit claimed he had obliterated their nuclear capabilities last year.
The moron knew that we have a democratic system. He also knew, or should have known, that Iran could resort to its main weapon and close the Strait of Hormuz.
There is no defending this incompetent man-child. It is despicable that anyone even tries to do so at this point.
Yes, and rational Americans have had quite enough of that kind of odorous opinion.
Just because MANY Democrats said this was going to be a disaster doesn't mean those saying "I told you so" are rooting for Iran. That's like saying those who warned their dumb as rocks Trump supporter friend not to sleep with that two-dollar whore were "rooting" for him to get a venereal disease when they later remind him of their warning as he winces in pain trying to pee.
"You're enjoying this aren't you Gary!"
"I can't say I'm not somewhat amused at your stupidity Jim Bob."
When will people (everyone) realize and accept the fact that Trump is permanently mentally erratic?
At this point not realizing this is unpatriotic and very dangerous.
Look at Marco Rubio's depressed expression as he realizes he is following an incoherent madman -
This was seconds after Trump said Iran has a right to ballistic missiles because they only blow up little things.
that's the look of an anchor baby rentboy that has just realized his political future is swirling down his master's toilet ...
Trump complained about the height of his chair at the G7 meeting.
'Bully!': Trump's shocking G7 chair meltdown erupts on live TV — but it's his table-banging demands that left viewers stunned in utter disbelief
Further examination revealed he was seated at the same height as everyone else.
you'd think that sitting on a loaded diaper would add another inch to his height ...