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The SCOTUS delivers a triple

  

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By:  vic-eldred  •  5 months ago  •  90 comments

The SCOTUS delivers a triple
the Second Amendment has the same meaning in all parts of the United States. It cannot give way to 'the spirit of Aloha' in Hawaii any more than it can yield to the spirit of the Big Apple (Bruen) or the Windy City (McDonald)."

Yesterday the SCOTUS delivered a few decisions that many of knew were very basic to the Constitution. One said that blue states don't have the right to deprive citizens second amendment rights. Another confirmed that a President actually has the right to end what had been laughingly called TEMPORARY Protected Status , which amounted to letting certain groups like Haitians and Syrians live and work legally in the United States forever & ever. We also learned another thing that rational people already knew: Migrants don't get to apply or declare asylum from Mexico or the Rio Grande River. As a matter of fact, they must apply at the points of entry set up specifically for that purpose.

All of this angered the left. Many of the decisions being handed down now are and will be 6-3 decisions. There is a tradition on the Court that when a justice has an extreme disagreement with the majority, that justice would read the dissent aloud. Normally, the rest of the Court would get advance notice, but not this time. Justice Sonia Sotomayor, the Obama pick, delivered a blistering angry dissent yesterday over the rightful decision in the case of Mullin v. Al Otro Lado ,  which allows border officials to block asylum seekers who do not physically cross the southern border from entering the country.


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Sotomayor lamented that: “The consequences of today’s decision are predictable." “More people will die. More people will attempt to cross the border illegally, and some will make it while others will not.” “The majority ignores the statutory context and history, not to mention the longstanding position of the Executive Branch, all of which show that any noncitizen arriving at our doorstep and seeking admission must be inspected and allowed to apply for asylum, regardless of whether her foot has crossed the threshold."

Sotomayor offers blistering dissent on Supreme Court asylum decision: 'More people will die'


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Justice Alito who wrote for the majority was a little miffed that Sotomayor didn't do the decent thing by letting him know she would be reading her dissent. In writing for the majority Alito wrote:

"The running back does not arrive in the end zone (and six points do not go up on the scoreboard) when he is tackled at the 1-yard line by the defense," Alito wrote. "The guest does not arrive in the house when the homeowner locks the door right before the guest tries to open it.

The army does not arrive in the city when the city's defenders repel the attack outside city limits. And the letter does not arrive in the mailbox when a dog assaults the carrier a step away from the mailbox.

A person arrives in a destination only when he enters it, and that conclusion does not change because someone or something blocks entry. A person arrives in the United States, then, only when he enters it."

U.S. Supreme Court slams the door on asylum seekers at the border


It was a huge day for Justice Alito. He put an end to Hawaii's unconstitutional vampire law and ended the crazy idea that an asylum seeker only needed to be at a point of entry in spirit. It was an even bigger day for the Constitution.


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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    5 months ago

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We still have twelve cases still in the pipeline for Supreme Court.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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1.1  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    4 months ago

What did you expect from conservative radical activist judges?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  MrFrost @1.1    4 months ago

The court is doing its   job and deciding cases?

damn radical  conservative activist judges. Who do they think they are?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.1.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  MrFrost @1.1    4 months ago
radical activist judges?

I know it's unheard of among the leftists but, doing the job you were hired / appointed to do doesn't make one "radical" or "activist".  

 
 
 
MrFrost
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1.1.3  MrFrost  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.1.2    4 months ago
I know it's unheard of among the leftists

Rightists always claim radical activists judges when there is a ruling they don't like. Deal with it. 

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
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1.1.4  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  MrFrost @1.1    4 months ago

Corruption, loyalty to Donald J. Trump, the WORST PRESIDENT IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

Trump is an Adjudicated RAPIST and a CONVICTED FELON. Why isn't Trump in Prison, instead of destroying everything he touches, along with his personal association with PUTIN?




 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
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1.1.5  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.1.2    4 months ago

The Voters of either party did not select the Supreme Court justices. "Dirty Diaper Donnie" appointed the worst of the worst.

WTFU!

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
Professor Participates
1.2  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    4 months ago

Alito is a very rich man based on his position in the court as a Supreme Court justice, John Roberts, and three other Republicans hand-picked by the most CORRUPT person in the History of this country, "Dirty Diaper Donnie". A man who cannot control his own bowels or outbursts.

Covering for a known criminal by a Supreme Court justice should be an act of TREASON, CORRUPTION, or both.

Chief Justice Roberts is a corrupt justice. He and his wife have made $20,000,000 while in public office. His wife made $10,000,000 from her clients that she groomed as an attorney who dealt with clients that had cases before the SUPREME COURT.

If that isn't corruption, what is?

The Supreme Court should be at an arm's length from other branches of government, not the appeasers!

Two Supreme Court Justices have been accused of RAPE, and were appointed anyway, thanks to Donald J. Trump, an adjudicated RAPIST, and a
confirmed FELONS.

Two other Justices have had dealings with sources that have made them rich.
All are REPUBLICAN JUSTICES.

Put that in your pocket and smoke it!


 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
Professor Participates
1.2.1  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  Eat The Press Do Not Read It @1.2    4 months ago

It's not progressive that demagagate other countries. It is the ORANGE, CORRUPT, INSANE, VULGAR, CRIMINAL by the name of Donald J. Trump, an ADJUDICATED RAPIST!

 
 
 
Freewill
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1.2.2  Freewill  replied to  Eat The Press Do Not Read It @1.2    4 months ago
Chief Justice Roberts is a corrupt justice. He and his wife have made $20,000,000 while in public office. His wife made $10,000,000 from her clients that she groomed as an attorney who dealt with clients that had cases before the SUPREME COURT.
If that isn't corruption, what is?

Easy.... Such allegations of corruption are unproven bullshit, as a simple Google AI research summarizes:

The defense against the corruption allegations rests on several verified points:
1. Compliance with the Judicial Code of Conduct
A Supreme Court spokeswoman confirmed that Chief Justice Roberts consulted the relevant ethical guidelines to ensure his wife's career did not violate conflict-of-interest standards. Specifically, he relied on a 2009 advisory opinion from the Committee on Codes of Conduct for federal judges , which explicitly states that a judge "need not recuse merely because" their spouse works as a recruiter or headhunter for a law firm. Because Jane Roberts was not a practicing attorney arguing cases herself, the established rules did not require the Chief Justice to step down from those cases. [ 1 , 2 ]
2. The Career Shift Was Intended to Avoid Conflicts
Jane Roberts was originally a practicing partner at a major law firm . When her husband became Chief Justice in 2005, she deliberately transitioned out of active legal practice and into executive recruiting (headhunting) specifically to avoid directly representing clients who might have cases before the Supreme Court. [ 1 , 2 , 3 ]
3. No Evidence of "Pay-for-Play" Mechanics
Legal and corporate experts point out that the logistics of legal headhunting make it an incredibly inefficient and highly improbable way to "funnel" money to a judge. [ 1 ]
  • Legal recruiters are paid by a law firm when they successfully convince a high-profile attorney (like a partner with a large book of business) to switch firms. [ 1 , 2 ]
  • The firm pays a standard commission based on that attorney's market value. [ 1 , 2 ]
  • For a firm to use this as a "bribe," they would have to spend millions of dollars hiring and paying a real, highly paid lawyer they did not actually want, simply to pass a fractional percentage of that cost to Jane Roberts as a commission. [ 1 ]
4. Her Success is Accounted for by Professional Merit
While a whistleblower (a disgruntled former colleague) speculated that Mrs. Roberts' marital status helped her career, the president of her former firm, [Major, Lindsey & Africa], issued an official statement attributing her success entirely to "the highest standards: candidate confidentiality, client trust, and professionalism." She was recognized as one of the top elite headhunters in Washington, D.C., working in an industry where seven-figure commissions for top-tier placements are standard. [ 1 , 2 , 3 ]
5. Official Disclosure and Lack of Sanctions
While critics and a recent public disbarment complaint focus heavily on the fact that Chief Justice Roberts listed his wife's income under the broad category of "salary" rather than "commissions" on financial disclosure forms, the income itself was never hidden. When the nuance between salary and commission was raised by journalists in 2023, Roberts amended the forms to clarify the commission structure. [ 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 ]
To date, despite extensive documentation provided to Congress and the Justice Department by the whistleblower, no federal investigative body, ethical board, or congressional committee has ever found or alleged actual corruption, bought favors, or illegal wrongdoing regarding the Roberts household's income. [ 1 , 2 , 3 ]
That is what it is.
 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2  Sean Treacy    5 months ago

The court now has to teach progressive justices that temporary does not mean permanent.  Or what a border means.   Amazing that people can be confirmed to  the supreme court not understanding such basic concepts.

also, funny to see progressives arguing that Haiti is, in fact, a shithole country….

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
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2.1  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  Sean Treacy @2    4 months ago

Six of the Republican Justices are not PROGRESSIVE; they are self-absorbed criminals with their own gluttony. Several were appointed by a known GRIFTER, DJT.

It's time to jettison the "Dumpster" and investigate the corrupt Justices currently serving as arbiters of Truth. They are as criminal as Donald J. Trump!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3  author  Vic Eldred    5 months ago

Justice Thomas also had a further warning for the district courts:

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Sean Treacy
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3.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Vic Eldred @3    5 months ago
Justice Thomas

His statement that "aliens have no equal protection rights against the Federal Government." is self evident, yet somehow the court won't admit that. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.1    5 months ago

Thomas and Alito work well together 

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
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3.1.2  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.1    4 months ago

Thomas has NO RIGHT to be on the Court. He should have been investigated years ago, found guilty of his crimes, and sent to prison.

Hopefully that day is coming.

Trump's wife financed part of the J6 attack on our country, and has NEVER been prosecuted.

Why is that?

 
 
 
Freewill
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3.1.3  Freewill  replied to  Eat The Press Do Not Read It @3.1.2    4 months ago
Why is that?

Let's ask Google AI shall we?  I entered your question verbatim.

Trump's wife financed part of the J6 attack on our country, and has NEVER been prosecuted.
Why is that?
There is no evidence or public record indicating that Donald Trump’s wife, Melania Trump, financed any part of the January 6, 2021, Capitol attack.
Because no credible allegations, investigations, or financial trails link her to funding the events of that day, there has never been any basis for prosecution. [ 1 , 2 ]
The extensive congressional and federal investigations into the financial backers of the January 6 events identified different sources of funding.
Major Backers of the January 6 Rally
Investigations by the House January 6 Committee and investigative journalists traced the funding for the Ellipse rally to a few prominent donors and political action committees, none of whom were Melania Trump: [ 1 , 2 ]
  • Julie Fancelli : The heiress to the Publix supermarket fortune was identified as a primary financier. She contributed roughly $650,000 (out of a $3 million budget) through far-right media figures to help secure and clear the park for the rally. [ 1 , 2 ]
  • Richard Uihlein : A shipping and packaging magnate who was documented as another significant financial donor behind the organizations facilitating the protest. [ 1 ]
  • Save America PAC : Donald Trump's leadership political action committee raised millions from grassroots donors following the 2020 election. Portions of these funds were diverted to various pro-Trump organization heads who helped organize the pre-riot demonstrations. [ 1 , 2 ]
    Melania Trump's Verified January 6 Actions
  • Public records, former staff testimonies, and official statements outline Melania Trump's specific actions and position surrounding January 6: [ 1 ]
  • The Day of the Riot : According to text messages released by her former chief of staff, Stephanie Grisham, Melania Trump was leading a pre-scheduled architectural photoshoot of White House restorations and was reportedly unaware of the escalating violence when it initially broke out. [ 1 , 2 ]
  • Public Condemnation : On January 11, 2021, she issued a formal statement explicitly condemning the violence at the Capitol, stating that "violence is never acceptable" and calling for the nation to heal in a civil manner. [ 1 ]

So that's why.

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
Professor Participates
3.2  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  Vic Eldred @3    4 months ago

Justice Thomas has received millions from his friends, in trips, the purchase of his mother's house, and other serious crimes. Justice Thomas is the WORST JUSTICE on the Court, bar none. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4  JohnRussell    5 months ago
A person arrives in the United States, then, only when he enters it."

This in theory precludes asylum completely. 

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Justice Alito who wrote for the majority was a little miffed that Sotomayor didn't do the decent thing by letting him know she would be reading her dissent.

Is he a child?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4    5 months ago

The law is very specific. They must go to a point of entry.

Justice Alito should have been notified before he wrote the majority opinion.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @4    5 months ago
his in theory precludes asylum completely. 

Not at all. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.3  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @4    5 months ago
Is he a child?

Who is acting like a child?

"There is a tradition on the Court that when a justice has an extreme disagreement with the majority, that justice would read the dissent aloud. Normally, the rest of the Court would get advance notice, but not this time. "

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
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4.4  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  JohnRussell @4    4 months ago

Yes, he is a child, and as corrupt as Trump.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5  author  Vic Eldred    5 months ago

We also have an activist judge in Boston who is trying to issue a nation-wide injunction. The SCOTUS has already ruled on the limits of district courts.

They really need to do something about the district court judges.

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
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5.1  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  Vic Eldred @5    4 months ago

Agh, an inbred TRUMP SUPPORTER. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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6  Sean Treacy    5 months ago

And the response from Democrats, instead of simply acting Democratically and passing laws that reflect their open border policies, are promising insurrection and court packing  in response to laws passed by Congress.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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6.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Sean Treacy @6    5 months ago
promising insurrection and court packing  in response to laws passed by Congress.

Just the usual "We lost, we must change the rules "strategy.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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6.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Sean Treacy @6    5 months ago
promising insurrection and court packing  in response

So just normal temper tantrums from the democrats and the left.  Same shit we've seen for a decade now.

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
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6.3  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  Sean Treacy @6    4 months ago

Forgot your meds, I see. They will twist one upside down. The issue all along has been, and to this moment, always has been "DIRTY DIAPER DONNIE" and his sycophant appointees.

The United States of America is under attack by corruptors who financed Trump, including the Heritage Foundation that wants to shred the Constitution and replace it with a CEO format of a handful of uber-rich know-it-alls.

In this period of our nation, be careful who you align with. Trump's team is ALL CROOKS, only!

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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7  Dismayed Patriot    5 months ago

It's not that I didn't expect the conservatives to be such weak whiny scared little xenophobes blaming all their problems on immigrants, asylum seekers and everyone but themselves as they always do, but it's still rather sad to see it in such abundance.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @7    5 months ago

The topic isn't Conservatives or your hate of them. The topic is the Constitution.

I wonder how many would like to rewrite it?

 
 
 
devangelical
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7.1.1  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1    5 months ago
I wonder how many would like to rewrite it?

... most of maga, apparently, with their support of an unamerican scumbag in the oval office that has zero respect for it ...

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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7.1.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1    5 months ago
I wonder how many would like to rewrite it?

The only response from progressives are tantrums because the Court simply applied a law passed by Congress.

 
 
 
devangelical
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7.2  devangelical  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @7    5 months ago

at least all those white afrikaners won't have anything to worry about. it'll be fun watching the next administration use these rulings to deport those neo-nazis, and the 1st skank for over staying her visa and then lying on her immigration paperwork ... 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @7.2    5 months ago
at least all those white afrikaners won't have anything to worry about.

How many? Wasn't it 10,000?

On the other hand, Biden allowed millions of unvetted overwhelmingly poor, mostly non-whites into the country where they were given benefits.


[✘] it'll be fun watching the next administration use these rulings to deport those neo-nazis, and the 1st skank for over staying her visa and then lying on her immigration paperwork

Try and remember that it was Obama who invented metering ( the policy of turning away asylum seekers before they cross the border), Biden ended it and Trump just brought it back.

The SCOTUS just said Trump got it right.

 
 
 
devangelical
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7.2.2  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.2.1    5 months ago
Trump got it right

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.2.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @7.2.2    5 months ago

The Court has just confirmed President Trump as the greatest protector of US sovereignty.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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7.2.4  Sean Treacy  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.2.1    5 months ago
it was Obama who invented metering

Obama is a whiny scared little xenophobe who blames all his problems on immigrants, asylum seekers and everyone but himself. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.2.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.2.1    5 months ago

BTW as for "Nazis" :

democrats are rallying around a real one

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The truth hurts!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.2.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @7.2.4    5 months ago

I think that at the time Obama was trying to protect America's working poor. A lot has certainly changed within that decade. His party now sees migrants as the future of the democrat party.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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7.2.7  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sean Treacy @7.2.4    5 months ago

Wow. How original. Another "I know you are, but what am I?" defense.

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Talk about proving my point, just more blaming others with zero ability to defend their dear Leaders actions.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.2.8  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @7.2.7    5 months ago

There aren't many ways which one could defend Obama. What did you have in mind?

 
 
 
TᵢG
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7.2.9  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.2.5    5 months ago

Yes, the Ds have made a terrible choice here with Platner.   Just as the Rs made a terrible choice with Paxton.   You focus on just the D.   Blind partisanship.

Worse though is that Trump makes both of these candidates look like choir boys.   How anyone can ignore this blatant reality is irrational, irresponsible, and unpatriotic.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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7.2.10  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.2.1    5 months ago
Removed for context[✘]

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.2.11  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @7.2.9    5 months ago
You focus on just the D

No, you missed it. Somebody just called Conservatives "neo-Nazis."  I'm responding to that comment with democrats choosing a real Nazi. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
7.2.12  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.2.6    5 months ago
I think that at the time Obama was trying to protect America's working poor. A lot has certainly changed within that decade. His party now sees migrants as the future of the democrat party.

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Vic Eldred
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7.2.13  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @7.2.12    5 months ago

Name-calling & taunting means that you never had much of an argument vs these Court decisions.

The worst part for progressives is that it wasn’t just a win for Trump, the Court also once again ruled that federal judges have no authority to even review these decisions.

 
 
 
devangelical
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7.2.14  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.2.11    5 months ago
a real Nazi

if maga is so concerned about people in gov't with nazi tattoos, they need to look no further than the christo-fascist running the DoD with the mysteriously blacked out portions of his worthless hide ...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.2.15  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @7.2.14    5 months ago
f maga is so concerned about people in gov't with nazi tattoos,

Devo, we can't run democrat primaries for you!

The democrats should have eliminated him.[✘]

 
 
 
devangelical
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7.2.16  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.2.15    5 months ago
Devo

call me by my name, or get used to me calling you dick, vic ...

I don't vote in that primary, but at least somebody is taking on grandma shaky that happily kneels before her maga master with her mouth open and head tilted back upon command ... 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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7.2.17  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.2.11    5 months ago
Somebody just called Conservatives "neo-Nazis."  I'm responding to that comment with democrats choosing a real Nazi. 

So, what to you makes "a real Nazi"? Is it a tattoo? Is it not wanting to bomb Palestinian babies? Or is it anti-immigrant xenophobia like actual Nazi's practiced? Is it masked Gestapo in the street stopping people to check for their papers and shooting them if they dared try to get away? Is it being overly concerned with some perceived 'loss of white culture' which makes one vote for white candidates and white representatives because they fear those who look different and speak different?

I know, I know. This is clearly too deep for most rightwing conservatives, especially those so determined to obfuscate their own party's clear fascist bent they scream over and over about a tattoo. But I'm still curious as to how they can ignore sooooo much of their own parties' obvious desire to protect the same things the Nazi's did, the moronic fantasy 'white conservative Christian culture' they constantly fear losing. How can they not see what is so obvious to everyone else?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.2.18  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @7.2.16    5 months ago

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Vic Eldred
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7.2.19  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @7.2.17    5 months ago
So, what to you makes "a real Nazi"? Is it a tattoo?

Well, you see that tattoo isn't something that can be explained away. That is a specific tattoo used by the Nazi death squads. The ones who did the killing.

Platner claimed he didn't know.

However:

"Platner, however, knew exactly what the hateful ink represented, his ex-girlfriend, Lyndsey Fifield, 40, told the New York Times."

Graham Platner knew meaning of Nazi-linked ‘Totenkopf’ tattoo: ex-girlfriend


Based on your defense of him, I have to wonder who is worse.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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7.2.20  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.2.18    5 months ago

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Vic Eldred
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7.2.21  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.2.18    5 months ago

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Dismayed Patriot
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7.2.22  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.2.18    5 months ago
Removed for context

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I've never requested any of your comments moderated. It's hilarious that you think so though.

I actually thought about requesting for even the clear violations from conservatives to be left unmoderated, I think some of the policing has gone a little overboard. Not on my comments, I have never challenged it when my comment gets moderated, I can almost always see where I crossed the line, but often I come back to an entire comment line of moderation so I can't even see what their reply to me was and frankly I don't care what they call me, it doesn't bother me or anyone that matters at all. So let more of their comments stand please, if at all possible.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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7.2.23  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.2.11    5 months ago

You focus on Platner while ignoring Paxton.    And you ignore that neo Nazi / white supremacists are more likely to align with the Trump GoP than with the Ds.

Worse, you take issue on Ds while ignoring the outrageous behavior of the R PotUS.

It is not possible to credibly criticize a bad D candidate when you praise the behavior of the R PotUS whose behavior and actual damage dwarfs the D candidate.

 
 
 
devangelical
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7.2.24  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.2.18    5 months ago

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Vic Eldred
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7.2.25  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @7.2.22    5 months ago
I've never requested any of your comments moderated. It's hilarious that you think so though.

I was not accusing you.


I actually thought about requesting for even the clear violations from conservatives to be left unmoderated, I think some of the policing has gone a little overboard.

It is a matter of degree & fairness. Take a look at the entire discussion. You will see a lot of taunting that led to the ticket. Right now, somebody is bragging that I got him a ticket. If you are honest, you'll note who didn't get a ticket. BTW, I'll let you in on one of my biggest secrets: I never flag anyone commenting on one of my articles. I flag people on the other people's articles.


Not on my comments, I have never challenged it when my comment gets moderated, I can almost always see where I crossed the line, but often I come back to an entire comment line of moderation so I can't even see what their reply to me was and frankly I don't care what they call me, it doesn't bother me or anyone that matters at all. So let more of their comments stand please, if at all possible.

There is a case to be made for that. Do you remember how people became members of Newsvine?  I'll bet many have forgotten. You didn't become a member immediately. You first went into what was called "the green house." That was a wide-open discussion place for the newcomers. There was a multitude of people, all making comments to one another with no moderation. It was from there, based on your commentary, that someone on the inside vouched for you to become a member. I remember that part as a lot of fun.

 
 
 
devangelical
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7.2.26  devangelical  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @7.2.22    5 months ago
frankly I don't care what they call me, it doesn't bother me or anyone that matters at all. So let more of their comments stand please, if at all possible.

agreed, it's tantamount to being bullied by preschoolers. big fucking deal ...

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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7.2.27  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  devangelical @7.2.14    5 months ago

You whining and crying about the Jerusalem Cross?  The same symbol that was on the cover of Jimmy Carters Funeral program?  A religious symbol?  

Well, I can see why y'all crying about that.  Your Nazi tat was called out.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.2.28  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @7.2.23    5 months ago
You focus on Platner while ignoring Paxton

I don't understand. Somebody calls Conservatives neo-Nazis and I respond that the only Nazi is a democrat. Why must I include Paxton in that discussion?


And you ignore that neo Nazi / white supremacists are more likely to align with the Trump GoP than with the Ds.

I have a lot of issues with that. I don't see many neo-Nazis or "White Supremacists around. If you see such a danger, could you provide some evidence?


Worse, you take issue on Ds while ignoring the outrageous behavior of the R PotUS.

In the case of this article the R POTUS happens to be the savior of American sovereignty. Can you deny that?


It is not possible to credibly criticize a bad D candidate when you praise the behavior of the R PotUS whose behavior and actual damage dwarfs the D candidate.

Obviously, I don't agree with the way you see things.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.2.29  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @7.2.24    5 months ago
uh oh, see you next week ...

It looks like I survived.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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7.2.30  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @7.2.7    5 months ago

just more blaming others with zero ability to defend their dear Leaders actions

you are literally attacking Republicans for  obama's policy.  The lack of self awareness you are displaying is off the charts. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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7.2.31  Sean Treacy  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.2.27    5 months ago

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TᵢG
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7.2.32  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.2.28    5 months ago
In the case of this article the R POTUS happens to be the savior of American sovereignty. Can you deny that?

Thinking Trump is good for this nation, much less 'the savior' defies reality.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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7.2.33  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sean Treacy @7.2.31    5 months ago
It's not a surprise that the party who hates America, supports wearers of SS tattoos, al Qaeda front volunteers and who openly admit to wanting to destroy western civilization would find a symbol in our national cathedral offensive. 

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Does it ever get tiresome spouting such obvious bullshit? I mean, not even you can really believe that pile of nonsense and know it's just regurgitated rightwing conservative rhetoric.

Anything positively associated with America is as offensive to progressives as SS tattoos are to the rest of us. 

I get that it's hard for rightwing conservatives to defend their clear inclination towards rightwing fascism, but such projection is just so overt nobody with more than half a brain believes it. But I guess you can tell yourself whatever you want to justify the absolute disaster you know you voted for that is currently pissing on our constitutional Republic. I'm sure for many Trump supporters, sailing straight into denial is the only course they can manage, they're simply not emotionally strong enough yet to admit they made a mistake, so they can only double down on dumb.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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7.2.34  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  TᵢG @7.2.32    5 months ago
Thinking Trump is good for this nation, much less 'the savior' defies reality.

Everything they do defies reality. Here is their own Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY) about the supposed election fraud the brainless MAGAites are losing whatever brain they had left over.

"I think (election fraud) is a distraction from our real problems," Massie said. "I think it's ironic that we control the House, the Senate, the Supreme Court and the White House, and we're yelling 'election fraud'? I mean, we won all the damn elections."

But according to the eternal victims, they've been cheated! You really can't get more delusional and out of touch with reality than a Trump supporter.

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TᵢG
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7.2.35  TᵢG  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @7.2.34    5 months ago

Massie knows that the 'fraud' bullshit is simply an excuse to take actions that make the midterms more favorable for Trump.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
7.2.36  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @7.2.33    5 months ago
Does it ever get tiresome spouting such obvious bullshit?

That's a question you should be asking yourself.  For fucks sake, you immediately start making juvenile attacks on Republicans for supporting an Obama policy...

onservatives to defend their clear inclination towards rightwin

Progressives: nominate a candidate who openly admits wanting to destroy western civilization.

Progressives: Dur.. Republicans sure are extreme! 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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7.2.37  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.2.19    5 months ago
Platner claimed he didn't know. However:

...his ex-girlfriend claims he knew. Wow, that's some stunning hard evidence right there. I mean, do we even need to ask the jury? Guilty, am I right? /s

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I don't really know how else to slow-splain the facts to our special needs listeners, but Platner could not have been a member of the SS, it's just not possible unless you believe in time travel. And just because an ex-girlfriend contradicts him doesn't mean it's an open and shut case. I mean, conservatives are still ignoring the over TWO DOZEN women that accused Trump of sexual assault, why are they all of a sudden wanting to believe some ex-girlfriends' word over Platner's? Oh, that's right, because they're fucking dipshit partisans desperate for a "Gotcha" because they have absolutely NOTHING else to use as a defense for their obviously inept incompetent convicted felon man baby they voted for.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.2.38  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @7.2.37    5 months ago
but Platner could not have been a member of the SS, it's just not possible unless you believe in time travel.

Most likely he is an admirer of the SS.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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7.2.39  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @7.2.37    5 months ago
his ex-girlfriend claims he knew

Lol. and numerous others, including is ex-campaign manager. 

But sure, pretend the guy who spends his time posting on military paraphernalia boards on reddit didn't know what the symbol he tattooed on his chest meant. It's always great when people discredit themselves. 

slow-splain the facts to our special needs listeners, but Platner could not have been a member of the SS

The special needs people are those who accused a man on the spectrum for being a Nazi because he waived awkwardly who think a military history obsessive doesn't know what he tattooed on his body. 

 are they all of a sudden wanting to believe some ex-girlfriends' word over Platner's

More dishonst framing. 

 re fucking dipshit partisans desperate for a "Gotcha" because they have absolutely NOTHING else to use as a defense for their obviously inept incompetent convicted felon man baby they voted for.

Dipshit partisans like those who lie on behalf of Platner and then attack Trump to deflect from Platner's who is entirely indefensible  on so many levels, or do you approve of guys who fantasize about raping other men?

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
7.2.40  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.2.3    4 months ago
The Court has just confirmed President Trump as the greatest protector of US sovereignty.

he's such a national hero, just like the one that shot himself ending WWII. when's the east wing bunker going to be ready? /s

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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7.2.41  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Sean Treacy @7.2.31    4 months ago
It's not a surprise that the party who hates America, supports wearers of SS tattoos and al Qaeda front volunteers and who openly admit to wanting to destroy western civilization would find a symbol in our national cathedral offensive.

The whole thing is pathetic "whataboutism".  Their candidate is called out for the actual Nazi tattoo so they feel they have to retaliate.  Even if it is something that makes them look pathetic.  They could make it easier on all of us and just leave.  I hear North Korea and Venezuela is nice this time of year.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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8  Perrie Halpern R.A.    5 months ago

Thread 7.3 removed for nasty comments and taunting. Knock it off. Only warning.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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9  Nerm_L    5 months ago

I do not understand why these SCOTUS rulings on immigration are considered a victory.  SCOTUS seems to be expanding executive authority over immigration.  These rulings suggest that Obama had the authority to created DACA and Biden had the authority to open the border, at their discretion.

These SCOTUS rulings seem to make things worse instead of better.  Broadening the use of executive discretion is a two edged sword.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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10  MrFrost    4 months ago
The SCOTUS delivers a triple

1 Birthright citizenship

2 Mail in voting

3 E. Jean Carol...

Yep, triple alright. 

 
 

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