DSA co-chair blames Israel for ‘largely inevitable’ Oct. 7 attack, calls Gaza an ‘open-air concentration camp’

The DSA leader admits she would have celebrated the rape and murder of Jews if she'd been in NYC on October 8th.

This is, of course, perfectly acceptable to many progressives and probably won't hurt the DSA's taekover of the Democratic party. In fact it will likely help.

I'm sure those  same progressives who  claim to "hate Nazis" will find a way to rationalize this

Anyone that does not disavow, this creep is pathetic

The DSA leader admits she would have celebrated the rape and murder of Jews if she'd been in NYC on October 8th.

Where is that in the article ? 

Romer noted that she likely would’ve attended the Oct. 8, 2023 rally against Israel the day after the bloody Hamas attack if she lived in New York City at the time.

Wasnt Israel bombing the shit out of gaza on that day?  Maybe she would go there to protest that.  There is nothing saying she celebrated Oct 7. 

here is nothing saying she celebrated Oct 7. 

She said she would have if she were in NYC.  

The DSA leader admits she would have celebrated the rape and murder of Jews if she'd been in NYC on October 8th.

This is, of course, perfectly acceptable to many progressives and probably won't hurt the DSA's taekover of the Democratic party. In fact it will likely help.

I'm sure those  same progressives who  claim to "hate Nazis" will find a way to rationalize this

None of this is in the article. Sean just likes to extrapolate wildly in his quest to paint all liberals to the left of Ronnie Ray-gun as hell-bent on the destruction of the "True Americans." 

He doesn't like Trump, according to him, but likes what his awful policies are doing to our nation. You had ought to take in his words with this in mind. 

She said she would have if she were in NYC.  

Didn't you post this story? She did not say that she would have "Celebrated" October 7th.

In fact, she specifically says she is not defending harm to civilians. 

Trumps greatest damage to America is how he has blatantly and proudly destroyed the norms of the government, of honorable behavior, and of the society as a whole. If you are over 60 right now you will probably not live to see things go back to what they were. 

Millions of otherwise normal people have tainted their own honor by going along  in order to fuck with the "left". 

idn't you post this story? She did not say that she would have "Celebrated" October 7th.

She said she would have attended celebration if she were in NYC.  The celebration was called "morally repugnant" by the Democratic governor of New York. 

That Democrats are now trying to justify the gathering they condemned (even some DSA condemned it) speaks volumes doesn't it?    

Millions of otherwise normal people have tainted their own honor

Those who sided with Hamas and for the rape and murder of civilians  are the ones who tainted their honor.  Claiming Trump destroyed norms while defending Hamas is cognitive dissonance exemplified. 

Would you justify Democrats marching in solidarity with Al-Queda on September 12 or is that still a couple months away? 

Sean just likes to extrapolate wildly in his quest to pa

Hamas had just murdered and raped thousands of Israeli civilians. Literally the day before. A march was organized in solidarity with Hamas. Lie to yourself about what that means, but it's meaning was clear and wasn't lost on those Democrats who aren't antisemites, like Hochul etc..

So it is incumbent upon the United States to show that it does not accept the Trumpian views and does, in fact, honor the commitments made to the free world.

I was re-reading an article by David Brooks this morning. I think that it holds some relation: David Brooks

I don't know if that will post or not. So:

The DOGE children are doubtless brilliant in certain ways, but they know as much about government as I know about rocketry. They announced an $8 billion cut to an Immigration and Customs Enforcement contract—though   if they had read their own documents correctly , they would have realized that the cut was less than $8   million . They eliminated workers from the National Nuclear Security Administration, apparently   without realizing that this agency controls nuclear security , and had to undo some of those cuts shortly thereafter. Trump seems to be trying to give a bunch of Sam Bankman-Frieds access to America’s nuclear arsenal and IRS records. What could go wrong?

When Trump creates an unnecessary crisis, it’s unlikely to be a small one. The proverbial “adults in the room” who contained crises in Trump’s first term are gone. Whatever the second-term crisis—runaway inflation? a global trade war? a cratered economy and plummeting stock market? an out-of-control conflict in China? botched pandemic management? a true hijacking of the Constitution precipitated by defiance of the courts?—it is likely to crater his support and shift historical momentum.

But although Trumpism’s collapse is a necessary condition for national recovery, it is not a sufficient one. Its demise must be followed by the hard work necessary to achieve true civic and political renewal.

Progress is not always a smooth or merry ride. For a few decades, nations live according to one paradigm. Then it stops working and gets destroyed. When the time comes to build a new paradigm, progressives talk about economic redistribution; conservatives talk about cultural and civic repair. History shows that you need both: Recovery from national crisis demands comprehensive reinvention at all levels of society. If you look back across the centuries, you find that this process requires several interconnected efforts.

First, a national shift in values. In the late 19th century, for example, as the country went through the wrenching process of industrialization, America was traumatized by severe recessions and mass urban poverty. In response, social Darwinism gave way to the social-gospel movement. Social Darwinism, associated with thinkers such as Herbert Spencer, valorized survival of the fittest and claimed that the poor are poor because of inferior abilities. The social-gospel movement, associated with theologians such as Walter Rauschenbusch, emphasized the systemic causes of poverty, including the Gilded Age’s concentration of corporate power. By the early 20th century, most mainline Protestant denominations had   signed on to the Social Creed of the Churches , which called for, among other things, the abolition of child labor and the creation of disability insurance.

Second, nations that hang together through crisis have a strong national identity—they return to their roots. They have a leader who replaces the amoralism of the nihilists, or, say, the immorality of slavery, with a strong redefinition of the nation’s moral mission, the way Lincoln redefined America at Gettysburg.

Third, a civic renaissance. After the social gospel took root, Americans in the 1890s and early 1900s launched and participated in a series of social movements and civic organizations: United Way, the NAACP, the Sierra Club, the settlement-house movement, the American Legion.

Fourth, a national reassessment. As Jared Diamond notes, nations that turn around don’t catastrophize. Rather, they develop a clear-eyed view of what’s working and not working, and they pursue careful, selective change. According to Diamond’s research, the leaders of successful reform movements also take responsibility for their part in the crisis. For instance, Germany’s leaders accepted responsibility for the country’s Nazi past; Finland’s leaders took responsibility for an unrealistic foreign policy before World War II, when they had to deal with a looming Soviet Union on their border; and Australia’s leaders took responsibility in the 1970s for a political culture and foreign policy that had become overly dependent on Britain.

Fifth, a surge of political reform. In 1830s and ’40s Britain—racked by social chaos, bank failures, a severe depression, riots, and crushing wealth inequality—Prime Minister Robert Peel, a leader of great moral rectitude, built the modern police force, reduced tariffs, pushed railway legislation that literally laid the tracks for British industrialization, and helped pass the Factory Act of 1844, which regulated workplaces. In early-20th-century America, Progressives produced a comparable flurry of effective reforms that pulled the country out of its industrialization crisis.

In the long term, Trumpism is doomed. Power without prudence and humility invariably fails. Then comes the hard work of political renewal.

Part of political reform is an expansion of the circle of power. What that would require in America today is, among other things, a broad effort to include working-class and conservative voices in what have traditionally been cultural bastions of elite progressivism—universities, the nonprofit sector, the civil service, the mainstream media.

Derek Thompson: Abundance can be America’s next political order

Finally, economic expansion. Economic growth can salve many wounds. Pursuing   a so-called abundance agenda —a set of policies aimed at reducing government regulation and increasing investment in innovation, and expanding the supply of housing, energy, and health care—is the   most promising way   to achieve that expansion.

in the long   term,   Trumpism is doomed. Power without prudence and humility invariably fails. Nations, like people, change not when times are good but in response to pain. At a moment when Trumpism seems to be devouring everything, the temptation is to believe that this time is different.

But history doesn’t stop moving. Even now, as I travel around the country, I see the forces of repair gathering in neighborhoods and communities. If you’re part of an organization that builds trust across class, you’re fighting Trumpism. If you’re a Democrat jettisoning insular faculty-lounge progressivism in favor of a Whig-like working-class abundance agenda, you’re fighting Trumpism. If you are standing up for a moral code of tolerance and pluralism that can hold America together, you’re fighting Trumpism.

Over time, changes in values lead to changes in relationships, which lead to changes in civic life, which eventually lead to changes in policy and then in the general trajectory of the nation. It starts slow, but as the Book of Job says, the sparks will fly upward.

Trump has been destroying the honor of this country for at least the past 15 years, and has spent most of those 15 years in our face every day. His malevolent presence dwarfs everything else. 

i dont protest Israel and I do want them to remain a Jewish state , because of the implications of anti-semitism and the Holocaust. But to compare one big mouth unknown politician to the psychological cancer trump creates is wildly off point. 

  liberals to the left of Ronnie Ray-gun as hell-bent on the destruction of the "True Americans."  

Here's  Brad Lander, one of Mamdani's extreme progressives who was just nominated of for Congress: 

"Today’s DSA rally – which effectively celebrated Hamas’ murder & kidnapping of hundreds of Israeli civilians, including children & grandparents – was abominable. There is no place for glorifying terror, left, center, or right."

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Your argument is so far on the fringe you are now calling Brad Lander a right wing extremist.  Nothing else needs to be said.

Not Really. What speaks volumes is your trying to paint her as a cruel and heartless person who would want to see anyone die as a matter of state.

She has opinions that are open for debate.  I do not believe that she is a callous warrior who would want to see meaningless death. Constrain yourself to those opinions and I will be far less likely to call out your obvious bullshit like : 

The DSA leader admits she would have celebrated the rape and murder of Jews if she'd been in NYC on October 8th.

That is contradicted by what she actually said. So you are telling a lie in order to gain traction for your Party. Heil Trump.

There are college freshmen, all of them actually, who cannot remember a time when Trump wasnt the most talked about politician in the country, and that is a tragedy. 

Well, you have not established that she celebrated the rape and murder of Jews, so I think you had better back up and start by proving your opening statement.

Brad Lander? Where the hell did he come from?

You still have to support your original point which was that she "celebrated the rape and murder of Jews". 

Until you do that, this whole article is just a sham.

"There is nothing saying she celebrated Oct 7."

It was a celebration of the declared terrorists Hamas' murdering and raping Jews, a day celebrated by the Gazans by their dancing in the streets and sharing candies just as they did for 9/11.  She didn't have to say anythinig about why she would have attended.  The fact that she felt that she WOULD have attended had she been in NYC was not because she would have protested the celebration, but because of her reputation would make it OBVIOUS that she would have appreciated it. . 

She knows she'd celebrate the murder of Jews, but the tax policy of her party?  No clue about that.

A co-chair of the   Democratic Socialists of America   struggled to answer a basic question about her organization’s tax policy   during a recent interview   when pressed on how the group plans to fund its economic agenda.

DSA co-chair Megan Romer stumbled on Friday’s episode of   The New Yorker Radio Hour   podcast after editor David Remnick asked her to define what the group means by “taxing the hell out of millionaires.”

“Uhhhh, yeah, you know, again, I don’t have like a solid [answer], but—” Romer said, chuckling during the exchange.

When Remnick pressed whether the leader of the organization should have a clear answer, Romer responded, “Um, that’s a good question.”

Remnick pushed further, asking, “If you’re the co-chair of the DSA, shouldn’t you be more specific than ‘taxing the hell’ out of something?”

independent.co.uk

It is really nice that you get voted up for horseshit statements:

She knows she'd celebrate the murder of Jews, but the tax policy of her party?  No clue about that.

The horse shit is in the first part. We do not know that she would celebrate the murder of Jews because she did not say that. You weaken your argument on the actual issue of tax policy by trying to smear her for the former. 

She also explained that the DSA is advocating for a “free Palestine with the capital in Jerusalem,” which means a “one-state solution.”

Sounds like this Megan Romer, is more retarded that I initially thought.  Being a Co-chair of the DSA is one thing, but this is another.