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Former Cambridge professor accused of plagiarism found dead

  

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Former Cambridge professor accused of plagiarism found dead

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Jason Arday, a former University of Cambridge professor, was found dead in London on Friday, just days after resigning over   questions surrounding   his career.

A spokesperson for the Metropolitan Police told CNN that a 41-year old man was found unresponsive in Battersea in south London and was later pronounced dead at the scene. While the force did not name Arday, British media widely reported that he was the man found dead in Battersea in London.

Arday, a sociologist, was celebrated as the youngest ever   Black professor   at Cambridge until last month, when allegations of   plagiarism   in his academic work and questions surrounding claims about his athletic and fundraising accomplishments began to swirl in the media.

The university’s Vice-Chancellor Deborah Prentice said in a statement on Friday that the university was “desperately saddened to hear this tragic news.”

“Our heartfelt sympathies go to Jason Arday’s family and friends at this incredibly difficult time,” she added in the statement posted on X.

When Arday resigned in early August, he defended himself, saying his decision to step down “should not be interpreted as a loss of faith in scholarship.”

“Nor should it be mistaken for an acceptance of the narratives that have surrounded me’” he said. “It is simply the decision of someone who has reached the limits of what any person should reasonably be expected to endure.”

‘A tragedy for him and those who loved him’


News of his death on Friday sent shockwaves online, with many criticizing some of coverage that led to and followed his resignation.

“Quite a bit of the British media should ask themselves some serious questions as to whether the tenor and volume of the coverage they gave to this man was remotely proportionate,” journalist Lewis Goodall said on X.

The Good Law Project, a campaign group that has supported Arday since the allegations first emerged, said Arday’s death was “a tragedy for him and those who loved him.”

The group’s executive director Jo Maugham said in a statement that people around Arday “had been warning the media that this was a risk.”

“I do not understand what the public interest was in continuing to hound him after he resigned as a professor and I do not understand what risk assessments media outlets did,” he added.

Lucy Powell, UK’s Secretary of State for Education, said she was “shocked and saddened” to hear about Arday’s death. “My heartfelt condolences are with his friends and family at this very sad time. I urge people to give them privacy through this incredibly difficult period (and) to remember there are real people with loved ones involved.”

Cambridge initially stood by Arday when questions about his qualifications were raised publicly   by the British press   and a one-time philosophy researcher who left the university after his critique of diversity, equity and inclusion programs.

The university said at the time that the plagiarism allegations had been investigated by Liverpool John Moores University, which awarded Arday’s doctorate.

The university later opened an investigation into “new information” about his academic qualifications, “following new information about Professor Arday’s qualifications and honorary appointments,” it said in a statement.

Earlier this week, the university said that Durham and Glasgow Universities were also investigating the circumstances surrounding Arday’s academic posts there.


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Sean Treacy
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1  seeder  Sean Treacy    3 months ago

Another victim of progressive racism. Arday, a serial plagiarist and a serial liar who told lies that no honest person could possibly believe, killed himself after someone said "how the fuck is this guy a Professor at a prestigious university!"  Given that he lives in a dystopian progressive police state, the first response was to have Scotland yard investigate anyone who challenged his credentials.  When that didn't stop the truth from coming out, progressives had to pretend to be not know the lie they had been perpetuating. 

Having his mountains of bullshit exposed was simply too much for him.

Of course, he never should have been in this position that he was clearly completely unqualified for and not mentally stable enough to handle. It's the ugly outcome of mismatch theory taken to the  extreme. Racist white progressives need to feel good about themselves cause them to push unqualified minorities into positions they aren't qualified for and that often leads to failure and resulting mental health issues.

When this first story was first reported, how did progressives respond? By screaming racism and the usual deflections of course. Holding privileged minorities to the same standards as the non privileged, like don't brazenly plagiarize every academic paper you touch that isn't simply talking about yourself is an almost impossible ask at this point. 

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1  devangelical  replied to  Sean Treacy @1    3 months ago
a serial plagiarist and a serial liar who told lies that no honest person could possibly believe, killed himself

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sandy-2021492
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1.1.1  sandy-2021492  replied to  devangelical @1.1    3 months ago

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MrFrost
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1.1.2  MrFrost  replied to  devangelical @1.1    3 months ago

<chuckle chuckle snort chuckle>

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.1.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @1.1    3 months ago

the irony

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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1.1.4  sandy-2021492  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.1.3    3 months ago

Right?

 
 
 
CB
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1.2  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @1    3 months ago

Are you SERIOUS?! Do you intend to pull reports from around the world of 'black people doing alleged bad things' - and somehow expect 'us' to answer for them? WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON HERE?! What the HELL?!

How about Africa/ns? Will you pull 'bad things' from that area and try to lay them at 'my'/our feet too?! How 'bout Haiti?  Jamaica? Bahamas? What the Hell?!!!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.2.1  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  CB @1.2    3 months ago
Will you pull 'bad things' from that area and try to lay the

Cambridge is one of the most prestigious universities int he world.

You should probably ask yourself why you are more mad about people noticing the fraud occurred than the fact that the fraud occurred. 

Cambridge's own senior ethnic minority academics joined calls for an independent inquiry, warning the appointment "had the potential to destroy the modest progress Cambridge has made in addressing historical under-representation." They saw immediately what the university's leadership wouldn't say aloud: hiring an unqualified man for his skin colour doesn't honour the genuinely qualified minority scholars before him.

It insults them, by suggesting their own achievements might have needed the same shortcut his did.

The evidence supports a harder conclusion than Cambridge has admitted. Had Arday been white, he would have faced the scrutiny every academic candidate is meant to survive, scrutiny his actual work could not have withstood. He was never vetted because the institution had already decided, in its own job advert, that his race qualified him. Cambridge didn't fail to notice the fraud. It built a hiring process, a panel and a PR machine designed not to notice it, and when outsiders noticed anyway, it sent the police after them instead.

Until this is common sense, racialists will continue to wreak havoc on our society.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.2.2  Split Personality  replied to  CB @1.2    3 months ago
Do you intend to pull reports from around the world of 'black people doing alleged bad things' - and somehow expect 'us' to answer for them?

Every single time he finds an article to slam blacks and women as DEI hires and blame the "progressives" and liberals.

Bank on it.

 
 
 
CB
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1.2.3  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.2.1    3 months ago

First of all, nearly 'everything' you share needs to be taken with the proverbial grain of salt and (re) researched. For it is clear you OMIT any consideration (background information) that makes educated professionals look as reasonable as they are. And worse, even when the truth is presented, like a good MAGA support. . . you double-triple-quadruple down on your 'whack' narrative.

Secondly, you can pull all the sh-t from around the world you wish—true and false—and it still won't change the fact that Trump and MAGA supporters are full of shit to do what they are doing to this country by fleecing it. . .even when they can see the country is HURTING BIG TIME AND LIMPING ALONG. 

Your MAGA President is stealing everyday. . . an all the while. . . you are "overseas" scouring for plagiarism and DEI bullsh-t in order to make this country's THIEFS look less like the SOCIETY SCUM IN HIGH PLACES they are.

Well know this: WE KNOW SCUM WHEN WE SEE IT HERE IN AMERICA. . . TRUMP AND MAGA SUPPORTERS ARE BEHAVING LIKE SCUM.

 
 
 
CB
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1.2.4  CB  replied to  Split Personality @1.2.2    3 months ago

Well, now I have to stop what I am doing to engage the UK's problem because SEAN TREACY seems to think that we MANAGE the world's professional choices:

So here I go starting out with letting the thing speak for itself. (This you will likely not ever get from a MAGA supporter):

Serious questions for Cambridge after professor at centre of plagiarism row resigns

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Cambridge professor at centre of plagiarism row resigns

Cambridge professor at centre of plagiarism row defends his work

Arday did not start his university journey at an elite institution.

He has a degree from the University of Surrey in education studies and physical education, a master's from St Mary's University in London, and a PhD in education awarded by Liverpool John Moores University.

The reason the PhD has attracted so much attention is because it is the first major piece of original research anyone wanting a career as an academic must complete.

Arday's critics claim that his work relied on copying other academics without properly crediting their work from the outset, which he denies.

He went on to become an associate professor at Durham University and professor of sociology of education at the University of Glasgow.

In other words, there is a line of institutions behind Cambridge now facing similar questions about their appointment processes.

The entire higher education system relies on accepting the qualifications awarded by another institution in good faith. Regulation and standards are meant to create a common currency.

That has now unravelled with what began as a blog a couple of years ago escalating in recent weeks, with more journalists unpicking aspects of Arday's life story and asking questions.

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Why has Cambridge's youngest black professor resigned?

It is at this point Cambridge faces questions about whether it was defending its own reputation as much as an individual academic.

Just a couple of weeks ago, the university was briefing journalists that this was a campaign against a black academic, its appointment system was rigorous, and it would be robustly defended.

So why might Cambridge have had a blind spot that delayed an investigation which could settle the matter?

The university has spent the last decade working to redress the perception that the institution is a bastion of affluent white privilege.

Roger Mosey, the former master of the university's Selwyn College, said Arday's academic background was "unconventional" for a Cambridge professor, but that his life story as an autistic man who said he could not read until he was 18 was what had seemingly "made him a compelling candidate".

Equality, diversity and inclusion are reasonable goals for a leading university, Mosey wrote in the Times, but risk becoming contentious "when they are baked into inflexible policies and questionable appointment processes".

Part of the answer may also lie in how black academics feel in general as part of a tiny minority in the wider university community.

In the last academic year, only 75 of Cambridge's 6,180 academics at all levels were identified as black, according to the Higher Education Statistics Authority (HESA).

If you look at professors across the UK, 270 are identified as black out of a total of more than 26,000, according to HESA definitions - around 1%.

The University and College Union has previously highlighted an ethnicity pay gap and called for it to be redressed.

A spokesperson said Arday was "entitled to due process and a fair opportunity to respond to the allegations made against him", adding that he had been "relentlessly targeted" by some since he was first appointed.

They added that the case "should not be used to undermine the wider principle that UK higher education continues to have a serious underrepresentation of Black professors".

Both Cambridge and Oxford have faced sustained scrutiny over their whiteness as institutions, with vocal critics over the last 15 years including the MP David Lammy.

He extracted data from the universities showing how few offers were made to black students despite the number being awarded top A-Level grades which would potentially qualify them for a place.

In 2018, Cambridge said it needed help to attract more talented black students, and unexpectedly the rapper Stormzy answered the call by setting up a scholarship to encourage students to apply.

Although the support was for a handful of students, it was a reputational coup for the university - allowing it to position itself as a more open and inclusive institution.

Now it will have to balance the potential reputational fall out of the Jason Arday row for its academic credibility, with how that might be perceived by future talented black students and academics.

 
 
 
CB
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1.2.5  CB  replied to  CB @1.2.3    3 months ago

‘Race-realist’ fellow Nathan Cofnas launches legal challenge over dismissal

The philosophy fellow has claimed the college ‘did not have the authority’ to cut ties with him

Cofnas advocates for the preservation of 'racial distinctions' in society
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by   Wilf Vall

 This article is  2 years old

Friday August 16 2024, 9:30am

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‘Race-realist’ fellow Nathan Cofnas is suing Emmanuel College after being  fired  for claiming that a meritocracy would see the number of black professors at Harvard drop to almost zero.

Cofnas, who was hired by the Philosophy Faculty in 2022, has  launched  a legal challenge over the college’s decision to cut ties with him after his views were deemed to be “a rejection of diversity, equality, and inclusion (DEI)” that was incompatible with the College’s “core values and mission”.

He originally  sparked  controversy in February after claiming in a blog post that race was linked to academic ability, and that under a true meritocracy black people would “disappear from almost all high-profile positions outside of sports and entertainment”.

He also called for an end to “the war on nature,” claiming that people needed to “accept that talent is not distributed equally within or across groups”.

Cofnas has characterised his views as “race realism,” and advocates for the preservation of “racial distinctions” in society. He also stated that society should “blaze forward” in a “hereditarian revolution” against the “DEI devil”.


Sean, I have a serious question to ask: Do you really want to go on record as supporting this man's ideation of meritocracy that denies minorities a chance to participate in escalation of life, liberties, and prosperity? I really want to know if you are one of those guys! BECAUSE IF YOU ARE, WE REALLY NEED TO DISCUSS!

That you keep 'pouring over' these cases as if they are the "be-all" that should end all. . . is simply telling on you.

Sure, people should pay attention to plagiarism and Mr. Arday (deceased. UK) will get no relief from his alleged faults and flaws if found to be true (Arday stated he is not guilty and only time will bare out if he was truthful or not). 

And yet, Sean, if this really the world you will to see continue. . . one  that treats minorities as less than. . . and then slams a door in their face using their mistakes (making mountains out of them) or perception of mistakes as evidence of crimes to get them ousted from 'elevation' from the slums of this world?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.2.6  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  CB @1.2.4    3 months ago
 out with letting the thing speak for itself. (This you will likely not ever get from a MAGA supporter):

Now blueanon thinks CNN is MAGA.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.2.7  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Split Personality @1.2.2    3 months ago
s DEI hires and blame the "progressives" and liberals.

He was  a DEI hire. Cambridge explicitly excluded whites from being hired for the position.  

It's cute you think anyone but progressives and liberals support that type of systematic racism.  Pretty much everyone else believes the government should not treat people differently on the basis of their skin color and should not discriminate on the basis of race.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.2.8  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  CB @1.2.5    3 months ago
this really the world you will to see continue. . . one  that treats minorities as less than

His career, such that it was, consisted claiming universities are institutionally  racist against minorities like himself.

He was a  complete fraud and grifter who was given a lifetime tenure at an elite university because of his race.

Do you not see how batshit crazy that is? Does being gaslit into  believing (or more likely simply feign believing) those things are possibly reconcilable not  bother you?

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
1.2.9  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.2.6    3 months ago

I have no idea what conspiracy your "dealers" are pushing, and I am not buying.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
1.2.10  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.2.7    3 months ago

Poppycock. See 1.2.5. 

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
1.2.11  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.2.8    3 months ago

Your comment, such as it is, seems 'hastily' written. Who are you referring to in it, Mr. Cofnas or Mr. Arday? And we ALL KNOW what bullshit talk about merit hiring is. . . just another CODE PHRASE for SEGREGATION in the hands of bigoted Americans. Y'all been trying to pull this sh-t since the early 60's! 

MAGA ought to be ashamed of being HATERS OF MINORITIES. Just telling and stupid! 

And let me add this: If bigoted MAGA supporters think for one damn second that minorities are going to play this drama with you all, then bigoted MAGA supporters (and Donald) are out of their f-king minds. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.2.12  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  CB @1.2.11    3 months ago
ho are you referring to in it, Mr. Cofnas or Mr. Arday?

Arday, of course.  Cofnas is not a minority. 

jalk about merit hiring is. . . just another CODE PHRASE for SEGREGATION in the hands of bigoted Americans. 

So you justify race discrimination because you feel it's impossible for the liberals who control higher education to not be racist?  Or do you reject the idea of merit entirely in favor of race based tribalism where he each race protects it's own forever?

Since you reject the concept of hiring based on merit,  do you have any other alternatives other than racist discrimination extending into perputiaty? 

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
1.2.13  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.2.12    3 months ago

I accept a society that takes PRACTICAL AND HUMAN POLICIES that make LIFE WORK! Can all the ideological BULLSHIT that is basically CODE TALK (around since the 60s of exploiting minorities by calling racism and racist actions by another name.

How about that!

You, me, and all of us should support PEOPLE from the time we get up in the morning to the setting of the sun and not BULLSHIT Ideologies that stifle and oppress people, particularly in our own country.

NOONE is going to kiss the "nether regions" of bigots just to appease their appetites for coming up with novel ways to SEGREGATE humans from other humans-again especially when we share the same soil!

MAGA supporters can talk all the bullshit y'all want. . .we, people, citizens, of this country will continue to fight through the bigotry. So then, if we all just have to be MISERABLE together. . .then, misery is what the next generation will have to suffer for a lifetime-as we continue to do now!

Go on talk your CODE talk. I plan to be here to counter the bullshit along with a host of others here!

Cofnas, a minority in England? Well, it's a trial talking point I guess MAGA will fly and try to get mileage out of. . . only a stupid person will accept it, nevertheless.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.2.14  Split Personality  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.2.7    3 months ago
He was  a DEI hire. Cambridge explicitly excluded whites from being hired for the position.

I could not find any proof of this, perhaps you can contribute that with a link although I personally care not.

Cambridge has had a racist reputation for 800 years.

"Cambridge" is a collection of 31 public colleges where whites dominate the faculties and Administration. 99 to 1. 

That seems to be racist and non representative of the country and certainly not the student body where they come from all over the world,

to experience cultural racism.

There are still actually two pay scales, one for white academics and 5.67% less for BAME academics.  (Black and Minority Ethnic, mainly from India)

Cambridge explicitly excluded whites from being hired for the position.

So what?  It's England, not the USA.

Maybe they were trying to help the process along, since they are still on the back foot as far as the faculties' lack of diversity and dual pay scale based on race alone.

It's cute you think anyone but progressives and liberals support that type of systematic racism.

No one cares what you think.

  Pretty much everyone else believes the government should not treat people differently on the basis of their skin color and should not discriminate on the basis of race.

Who is being idealistically naive now?

You are conflating America and England, you presume there to be similar languages and cultures, but in fact they are very different.

One is a democratic republic with a lawful Constitution where racism is frowned upon legally,

the other is a constitutional monarchy over England, Wales and Northern Ireland with no codified Constitution and still embraces different pay scales based on race.

 His career, such that it was, consisted claiming universities are institutionally  racist against minorities like himself.

English Universities in England, nowhere else; the proof was in every paycheck he cashed.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
1.2.15  CB  replied to  Split Personality @1.2.14    3 months ago

Cambridge was trying to do a good thing (diversify) and of course the bigots in America (who have a country to worry about of their own that is going to hell in a hand basket) are all UP IN THEIR 'GRILL' about diversification. Like England gives a sh-t about the United States abuses of its citizens. 

Cambridge was (is) attempting to address its internal structural racism , requiring the university to think outside of the box. It is a good thing they set out to do! Now then, allegedly Mr. Arday committed an act or acts of plagiarism for which when he was found out. . . he was officially expunged from the system.

However, what came next was untenable: “Quite a bit of the British media should ask themselves some serious questions as to whether the tenor and volume of the coverage they gave to this man was remotely  proportionate ,”  journalist   Lewis Goodall said on X."

Using Mr. Arday as a political foil clearly was not something Arday expected. . . and so he is dead (we have yet to learn a cause of death, nevertheless.)

As for the U.S. MAGA supporters, it was an opening to taunt (and troll) U.S. liberals , . . . why you may ask? Because a black man was selected to a prestigious university and evidently he is/was a liberal:

Arday’s family said the “campaign of misinformation was too much” as they released a statement through his publisher Simon & Schuster UK. University of Cambridge
Daniel Kebede, general secretary of the National Education Union, said questions about Arday’s credibility “unleashed a tirade of racism.”

“There is a profound difference between scrutiny and a sustained public campaign that turns an individual into a symbol of everything the right believes is wrong with DEI,” he said. “The effect has been chilling. It tells Black people and others from underrepresented backgrounds that entering prominent public positions will make you a target.”

London Mayor Sadiq Khan said Arday had been “the victim of a pernicious public shaming that other people in his position simply wouldn’t have faced.”

So the same set of U.S. relics that have been born and 'hanging out' since the 1960's Lee Atwater ("can't say nigger. . . but, you can use code words that have the same effect) took him to task. . .in England. 

"Merit" is a good thing. A positive thing. Cambridge thought it was doing a positive thing based on Mr. Arday's record presented during his interview for the staff position, of course, Arday's opposition thought it an opportunity to tear him down. . . despite no mention of him failing to perform well in his university position.

Anyway, the Prime Minister has spoken on the matter :
UK prime minister Andy Burnham called Arday’s death “a tragedy” and believes it’s “a moment for reflection.” ZUMAPRESS.com

Prime Minister Andy Burnham said Arday’s death was “a tragedy on so many levels.”

“It’s not a moment for any rushing to judgment. It’s a moment for reflection, I would say, reflecting on how things came to this,” Burnham told reporters.

Arday’s family says he suffered years of abuse and harassment

Police said the death was being treated as “unexpected” but not suspicious. They said officers were called to an address in south London on Friday afternoon and a 41-year-old man was pronounced dead at the scene. They did not name Arday, in accordance with police policy.

A friend said Arday had told him that he “felt he couldn’t go on” in a voice note earlier Friday.


Of course, some U.S. MAGA supporters are 'licking their chops' that he is not only 'gone' from the university, and his life!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.2.16  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  CB @1.2.13    3 months ago
s PRACTICAL AND HUMAN POLICIES that make LIFE WORK! Can all the ideological BULLSHIT that is basically CODE TA

You are "code talking" by calling racial discrimination "practical and humane."

Be honest. Just say you favor race discrimination and cut through all the mealy mouthed euphemisms.   

Cofnas, a minority in England?

I literally wrote:  "Cofnas is not a minority."   Please respond to what I've actually written. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.2.17  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Split Personality @1.2.14    3 months ago
So what?  It's England, not the USA.

Because the hiring and promotion of Arday was based on the the very same racist ideas uses to justify race discrimination here.  

Do you not understand that? 

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.2.18  Split Personality  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.2.17    3 months ago
Do you not understand that? 

Do you not understand that the racism is codified in England and Wales by a public institution that has two pay scales for an acknowledged caste system?

Do you not understand that Jews were barred from holding public office in England from 1066 to 1858?

Do you not understand that Jews were slowly permitted to run higher offices including MP after multiple amendments as late as 1986?

They are still barred from participating in any motion if that matter involves the Churches of England or Scotland.

Jews rate the highest on England's Hate Crime victims reports, not blacks.

Black segregation in England was the law until 1965.

Racism is codified into the English system from which the American colonies arose.

We are similar but completely different.

Your Quixotic fervor for fairness reeks of the same progressive liberalism you mention dozens of times as being the problem.

Problems have context and England is not America.

1.3% of all English professors are BAME  3,100 out of 240,000.  There are no figures separating the blacks down to an even lower correct percentage.

7.1% of all American professors are of African descent ( Maybe 111,000 out of 1.6 million )

Again context.

Again England's problem which has nothing to do with America,

Next stop Russia?  They need a lot of fixing after you are done with England .

 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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1.2.19  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Split Personality @1.2.18    3 months ago
Do you not understand

I think they "understand" as in, they know those things happened, they just don't care about the 200+ years of white affirmative action. They claim that as soon as the "whites only" signs came down, everything was equal and racism was a thing of the past and it would now be racist to give those who had been discriminated against and denied the ability to own property, work certain jobs, get educated, a hand up. If you're handing out anything now, it's got to be fair and the white folk who have been getting everything for 200+ years will NOT tolerate any discrimination against whites! That just wouldn't be right! That just wouldn't be fair! /s

While I accept that affirmative action programs for minorities should eventually sunset when American society has reached a cultural equilibrium with no culture being given any preferential treatment. But I think that time should be when American society has actually reached that point which I don't think it has, there is still deeply embittered angry white conservative Christian hate towards those they consider "others" which is anyone that doesn't kneel to their white conservative Christian ideals. They say they're not racist because they invite any minorities to join them, which they do, but those minorities have to conform and worship the white conservative Christian culture aka "assimilate", they can't bring their own culture in and try and change the white conservative Christian culture, they have to turn into Ozzie & Harriet just with brown skin if they want to be accepted by white conservative Christian society.

So, if you're a minority and liberal, gay, trans, Muslim, or of any other non-Christian conservative variety, then you're considered a DEI hire if you get a job anywhere in America and are considered a dangerous immigrant/illegal/BLM/ANTIFA threat to their desired white Christian conservative utopia. They are Christo-fascists even if they refuse to acknowledge it which is why they don't really give a fuck about history, facts or reality.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
1.2.20  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.2.16    3 months ago

Thank you for correcting my misunderstanding of what you wrote. That is all the response I have to it, nevertheless. :)  

Back to discussion. . . .

I favor equality, diversity, and inclusion. MAGA supporters should just say what y'all favor: uniformity, (white) majority rule over the affairs of a/ny country,  and suppression of minorities within those countries. Now, you have been properly informed. ;)

BTW, in the United States. . . bigoted whites do not 'own' this place. Y'all just 'rent' it like everybody else here.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
1.2.21  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.2.17    3 months ago

Sean, MAGA supporters are so wrapped up (in projection) in this thought process that it will take time to help the collective "you" out of it. I won't even ask "you" to leave whatever 'support' site or 'group' the collective "you" are involved. . . I will help talk you through it and out the other side. . . willingly or not willingly—Okay?!

Y'all need to acknowledge that y'all have a fundamentally different worldview as an offshoot of white Americans, who seem to want to force colorblindness onto people unlike yourselves. We do not need y'all to be our eyes, ears, and brains. . . minorities can do each of those material matters for themselves. And yes, we do-do them quite well.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.2.22  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Split Personality @1.2.18    3 months ago
racism is codified in England and Wales by a public institution that has two pay scales for an acknowledged caste system?

ChatGPT:

I found no evidence that the University of Cambridge officially operates two pay scales on the basis of an acknowledged caste system. Its published salary structure is organized by grades and staff categories, including academic, research, academic-related, assistant, and clinical scales—not caste.

o you not understand that Jews were barred from holding public office in England from 1066 to 1858?

So, explain in your mind, how that justifies race discrimination in 2026 in favor of non-Jewish people..

 you not understand that Jews were slowly permitted to run higher offices including MP after multiple amendments as late as 1986?

So, explain in your mind, how that justifies race discrimination in 2026 in favor of non-Jewish people..

Jews rate the highest on England's Hate Crime victims reports, not blacks.

 So, explain in your mind, how that justifies race discrimination in 2026 in favor of non-Jewish people..

Black segregation in England was the law until 1965.

Finally within even close to the ballpark of being relevant ! Explain how that justifies race discrimination in 2026 in favor of someone whose ancestors were not in England in 1965. 

our Quixotic fervor for fairness r

Yeah. It's "quixotic" to oppose race discrimination I guess. If we just keep discriminating on the basis of race and keep creating more victims of race discrimination, the problem will surely go away. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.2.23  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.2.19    3 months ago
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[✘] Dicrimating against Group A is terrible! Worst thing this country has done! Discriminating against Group B is fine! Who cares about the people it victimizes?

rams for minorities should eventually sunset when American society has reached a cultural equilib

Continuing to discriminate on the basis of race against people who had nothing to do what happened generations ago will surely solve the problem. Creating more victims will make the problem disappear. Good plan.

 
 
 
CB
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1.2.24  CB  replied to  Split Personality @1.2.18    3 months ago

MAGA supporters thinks its 'smart' politics to play 'hardcore' with the race in reverse. They really think they can talk minorities into accepting second-class citizenship-EVEN AROUND THE WORD APPARENTLY just because they IMAGINE their RACIST BUTTS superior to all Others.

You can't make this sh-t up. This is what we are up against (again) in 2026. . . racists DESPERATELY TRYING TO STAY ON POINT that minorities are inferior to (bigoted) Whites. 

SP, it's embarrassing to even have to write about this, and yet SOMEBODY has got to do it. Therefore, I, we, can not run from it. We have to hit this sh-t squarely in the chops as a 'side-issue' where and when it rears it funky, stinky, 'lips' to speak!

This 'dude' has indirectly and maybe even directly told ME that I am a second-class (or worse) citizen in his book-based on alleged plagiarism in the UK (and any other remote countries he can enlist in his disingenuous narrative.

I ain't taking the insult well at all. Watch this space.


BTW, there is a hidden supposition Sean is 'running througout this thread' that is not supported by his article. That is, that the university KNEW about the alleged plagiarism and alleged other problems with Arday at the time of his hire. Again, the article does not support this.

So Sean is just letting his "imagination' defy reason so as to produce a more intense and damning state for this discussion. I will not let him have that without listing fact/s!

Well, Sean. . .do you have clear evidence that the university is guilty of hiring an unqualified or insufficiently credentialed instructor for a professorship?

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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1.2.25  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.2.23    3 months ago
So put you down as believing that race discrimination is right and fair. Cool.

Put me down for believing in an eye for an eye. Put me down for believing in justice. True justice would have stripped the ill-gotten gains from the whites who have profited off the backs of slavery, discrimination and 200 years of white affirmative action at the expense of minority Americans and Americans of color. But because I don't believe reparations would be feasible, to give ALL that wealth back to those who really earned it, I'd settle for a hundred years of affirmative action in favor of those who had been discriminated against and who suffered under slavery, segregation and Jim Crow. Would that be "race discrimination'? Perhaps, but it is also justice which I think takes precedence. And it's not creating any "victims", that's such horse shit. Setting aside some admissions isn't pushing out the majority white students, they're still the majority. Any whiny little privileged shit who thinks 'they' should have gotten that seat that went to an affirmative action student can suck my ass, they're not a fucking victim.

 
 
 
GregTx
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1.2.26  GregTx  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.2.25    3 months ago

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Split Personality
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1.2.27  Split Personality  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.2.22    3 months ago
I found  no evidence that the University of Cambridge officially operates two pay scales

Again, I do not care about what you think; it took two seconds to query the internet for evidence.  9,300 hits and the first few pages have multiple articles covering over a decade of people in England bitching about the pay disparity for over a decade.

BME academics face stark pay gap | Varsity

Ethnic minority academics earn less than white colleagues

2018

White Cambridge academics paid almost 6% more than BME colleagues | Varsity

2024

And because of people like Arday making a lot of noise about it, the disparity has shrunk by 50% over the past two years.

BAME staff at Cambridge are paid 2.9% less than their white colleagues, investigation finds | Varsity

2026

The fact that a country even has two common Acronyms, BME & BAME, for their own double standard,

would have stopped most folks from continuing to deny the truth and embarrass themselves. Not you.

My advice?  Avoid AI and X.  Ai is a false prophet and X is just opinion.

It's "quixotic" to oppose race discrimination I guess.

Finally, but without context, it just as meaningless as the article.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.2.28  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Split Personality @1.2.27    3 months ago
o not care about what you think; it took two seconds to query the internet for evidence.  9,300 hits and the first few pages have multiple articles covering over a decade of people in England bitching about the pay disparity for over a decade.

I don't think you are going to hurt Chatpgt's feelings. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.2.29  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.2.25    3 months ago
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JohnRussell
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1.2.30  JohnRussell  replied to  GregTx @1.2.26    3 months ago

Without affirmative action would the blacks you think are "equal" today be "equal" today?  What do you base your opinion on?

Some of these people are still alive, but even with the ones who are not, what do you think they taught their children and grandchildren who are very much alive today? 

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JohnRussell
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1.2.31  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.30    3 months ago

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The young lady with the hate on her face would most likely be in her mid 80s today. 

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Many of the racists in this photo are likely still alive,  having taught their ways to their subsequent  generations. 

 
 
 
CB
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1.2.32  CB  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.2.25    3 months ago

Bigoted conservatives certainly are not victims. . . no matter how much they pretend to be!

 Bigoted conservatives use DEI as a racial cue. That is, DEI rhetoric pops up right alongside an image or activity of a minority or liberal (never a conservative even though they certainly believe in hiring just their own).

Racist using DEI as a 'racial appeal.'

The idea is usually this: DEI is framed in a way that signals race or hierarchy, so the audience interprets “DEI” as standing in for who is supposedly getting unfair advantage, who is supposedly blamed, or who is supposedly losing status. That makes it function like a racialized message.

Common ways people do that (the rhetorical mechanism):

Substitution: “DEI” is used as a shorthand for “people of certain races,” rather than the actual policies.
Threat framing: DEI is described as a threat to “merit,” “tradition,” “our values,” or “fairness,” with an implied racial contest.
Victim–perpetrator inversion: The claim that “DEI is reverse discrimination” is paired with narratives that certain racial groups are “the problem,” shifting from policy critique to group blame.
Status-loss narratives: DEI is portrayed as a force that removes status from the dominant group and grants it to others.
Cultural conflict framing: DEI is presented as part of a broader “woke/anti-American/anti-tradition” conflict, which often correlates with race-coded in-group/out-group identities.
If you’re writing or analyzing this, a clean way to phrase it is:

“DEI is racialized when it is used to cue racial groups and justify boundaries about belonging, merit, or status—turning a policy debate into an in-group/out-group competition.”
If you share the exact sentence/argument you’re analyzing, I can tell you whether it’s actually doing that (racial cueing) versus just making a non-racial policy critique.

Credit: DuckAI
 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.2.33  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.31    3 months ago

1963 - many of these boys are not much older than me. I was 13 in 1963.

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Split Personality
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1.2.34  Split Personality  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.31    3 months ago

Begging the question, which ones were acting like territorial monkeys?

Race mixing  (students in a class room ) is communism? or anti-christ?

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.2.35  Split Personality  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.2.28    3 months ago
I don't think you are going to hurt Chatpgt's feelings.

I think that is the weakest deflection you have ever pointlessly offered yet.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.2.36  JohnRussell  replied to  Split Personality @1.2.34    3 months ago

Civil rights protesters were communist anti-christs.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.2.37  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Split Personality @1.2.35    3 months ago
k that is the weakest deflection you have ever pointlessly offered yet.

Lol. Its a joke. you claiming that you don't care what chatgpt thinks as if you were going to hurt its feelings made me laugh.  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.2.38  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.2.25    3 months ago
e down for believing in an eye for an eye

Also, you know people are actually individuals and not just members of a race, right?

If a white racist discriminated against a black person in 1910 in Alabama, it's not an "eye for an eye" to discriminate against a white person born in 2010. 

what other innocent people do you think think it's appropriate to  punish for what others did? 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.2.39  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.2.38    3 months ago

"conservatives" think racism has been eradicated , to the point where many of them now believe, like you do, that whites are the true victims of racism now. 

How can racism be eradicated when there are millions and millions of people who either are themselves old school racists, or are the first or second generation descendants of old school racists. Its very simple, not enough time has passed since the Jim Crow and segregation era. Its going to take more time, maybe another 50 years, until a lot of the poison this society has imbibed has been watered down further by time. 

Is it "fair"?  If life was unfair for people of color for hundreds of years, who are we to say its time to move on? It will be time to move on when the people in these photos are a distant memory. That is not close to being true today. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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1.2.40  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.2.38    3 months ago
If a white racist discriminated against a black person in 1910 in Alabama, it's not an "eye for an eye" to discriminate against a white person born in 2010.

That might be true if that discrimination happened in a vacuum and that white racist didn't steal the food right out of the mouths of black families so they could horde it for their descendants who would one day argue that treating black Americans differently in any way today is what's racist even if the family of that man suffered through Jim Crow and segregation and discrimination, perhaps a black son risking his life and fighting for the allies in WWII and coming home to be denied GI bill rights, mortgages, the right to buy property in nearly all the new suburbs that were being built that created generational wealth for the white families that were allowed, denied entrance at most colleges that would have allowed them to be better educated and get better jobs, be denied most better jobs in management and denied upward mobility in virtually every company. But sure, let's just completely ignore the LONG history of racism and its effects because it makes some tired old useless bigots uncomfortable. It's like these rightwing conservatives have absolutely no brains to go along with their missing hearts. They're either dumber than sin, or just intentional shameless bigots if they can't connect the dots and see why bitching and whining over supporting programs that help minorities succeed defines them as massive, worthless assholes.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.2.41  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.39    3 months ago
conservatives" think racism has been eradicated

Not they don't. And engaging in more racist discrimination will just create more. 

like you do, that whites are the true victims of racism now. 

Because the government and many employers have been literally discriminating against whites (and Asians, progressives never address that when discussing this) for about 50 years.  You literally have progressives here justifying race discrimination against whites (but again, don't even bother to concoct a bs fairy tale to justify why discriminating Asians is "fair"  . 

re millions and millions of people who either are themselves old school racists, or are the first or second generation descendants of old school racists. 

What are beliefs do you believe are biologically inherited? 

 Its going to take more time, maybe another 50 years, until a lot of the poison this society has imbibed has been watered down further by time. 

Lol. Continuing race discrimination and the racist ideologies like CRT are stuffing poison down the throats of society. You aren't going to stop racism by engaging in more of it.  

How anyone believes you can stop racism by engaging in more of it is mind boggling. There's no rational explaination of how that can possibly work.

It's underpants gnome plan from South Park.

The Plan to stop racism:

Step 1. Engage in ever increasing amounts of race discrimination and teach kids their racial identity defines their life...

Step 2. ??????

Step 3. Racism ends!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.2.42  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.2.41    3 months ago

Racism MIGHT end when the vestiges of the people who perpetrated it for the hundred years following emancipation are dead and gone, and for more than just a minute. 

Your idea about biologically inherited racism are laughable. Why would it have to be transmitted by biology? What about by example ? Your side claims that white people ended slavery and that is/was all that is required of them therefore any current attempts to redress racism actually punish todays whites. That belief on behalf of whites is like pulling up the drawbridge after you get across the moat and the people left on the other side are on their own. 

The men and women, and children in these photos of racists in 1963 are now at the age when their children are in their 50s and 60s and their grandchildren in their 30s. This is still an issue and will be years to come. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.2.43  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.42    3 months ago
HT end when the vestiges of the people who perpetrated it for the hundred years following emancipation are dead and gone

Well, progressives are currently preaching race identity and advocating for race discrimination (see above). So even if you stop today, that's a hundred years..

The only possible way for a multi ethnic democratic society to function long term is for the government to be a neutral arbiter between groups. It cannot favor one race or the other without creating resentment, hostility and the use of force to implement it. As society becomes more diverse, that mandate becomes it even more imperative. It's 85% of society agreeing to penalize itself to help the 15% it had held in bondage. It's now  many more groups with converging shares of the population  competing for the government to put its fingers on the scales in it's favor.   That anyone can think that will work long term is beyond baffling. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.2.44  Right Down the Center  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.2.43    3 months ago
It cannot favor one race or the other without creating resentment, hostility and the use of force to implement it.

A fact lost on too many.  Human nature can be very predictable.  No one (except maybe Stormy Daniels) likes getting something shoved down their throat.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
1.2.45  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.2.43    3 months ago

So , according to you, past racism should never be addressed because addressing the disadvantages suffered by past victims of racism , including group victimization, will make current whites resentful.  Nice catch 22 you've got there. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.2.46  Split Personality  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.2.37    3 months ago

It's hard to believe such a bleeding heart has any sense of humor.

Failed again.

 
 
 
CB
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1.2.47  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.2.43    3 months ago

You don't know what the hell you are talking about! Your 'message' is do nothing (to aid equity, equality) and let the people languish right where they are! Since it is evident from this thread that MAGA supporters are striving to renew, revert, and even convert a new generation of whites to believe they are the leaders in this country and all its minorities should just be content to accept conservative whites as their superiors. (No matter how twisted the reasoning involved is and becomes.)

 
 
 
CB
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1.2.48  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @1.2.44    3 months ago

Exactly. That is the MAGA supporters 'argument' - 'People don't like to be told to change. . . .' and yet MAGA supporters have dedicated themselves to NEVER accept change in any way that benefits this country's 'other half.' We see your obstinance. . . and we will meet in with our own determination to make our country free and just for all. . .and not just conservatives!

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.2.49  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @1.2.48    3 months ago
Exactly. That is the MAGA supporters 'argument' - 'People don't like to be told to change. . . .'

Is the statement not true? Isn't it always better to get people to buy into change?

and yet MAGA supporters have dedicated themselves to NEVER accept change in any way that benefits this country's 'other half.'

That is just not true.  While conservatives want to see everyone's life improved it seems most progressives want to see just certain groups improved to the detriment of other groups.

We see your obstinance. . .

Obviously you don't

and we will meet in with our own determination to make our country free and just for all. . .and not just conservatives!

That would be nice.  Now if we could only get more progressives to practice what you preach.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
1.2.50  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @1.2.49    3 months ago

Yes, it is ALWAYS better to get people to "buy into" change. Now then, tell us how often bigoted conservatives "buy-in" to change. Seeing that the term: "conservative" literally means: limiting change. Please proceed. . . .

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
1.2.51  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @1.2.49    3 months ago
While conservatives want to see everyone's life improved it seems most progressives want to see just certain groups improved to the detriment of other groups.

So do explain how conservatives striving to end DEI and in this case, hounding a professor literally to "death" (he allegedly commits suicide) is an improvement of that professor's life! Was he not doing the job well or not? Yes, rules are rules. . . did conservatives ask the university (chain) what its reasons and qualifiers for this professor's hire were to begin?

BTW, I have posted several comments on this discussion about what the true intent of bigoted whites is by when making hidden racial appeals using so-called, 'neutral rhetoric' that negatively impacts minorities in this country first and foremost than their (bigoted) conservative counterparts. 

You could. . .should address one or several of those comments. Can we hold you accountable to do so? Or, will you just summarily dismiss the points and respond with silence?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.2.52  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.31    3 months ago

The second photo from the bottom...is that the Little Rock Nine?

 
 
 
Tacos!
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1.3  Tacos!  replied to  Sean Treacy @1    3 months ago
Another victim of progressive racism.

Speaking of racism, you might not be aware of this - or willing to consider the possibility - but white people also commit plagiarism and lie about their credentials.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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1.3.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Tacos! @1.3    3 months ago
but white people also commit plagiarism and lie about their credentials.

Yup. But they don't want to talk about that while they're in the midst of their white conservative tirade that makes weak whiny white male conservatives feel better about themselves by telling everyone about some anecdotal story they found that supports their racist rationale of demeaning minorities and claiming every minority making more money than they do must have been a DEI hire.

Here's some plagiarism stories they forgot to mention for some reason...

Notable Plagiarism Accusations Involving Republicans
  • Melania Trump (2016): Portions of her speech at the Republican National Convention mirrored Michelle Obama’s 2008 Democratic National Convention address. The Trump campaign later stated that a team of writers had assisted her. [ 1 , 2 ]
  • Senator Rand Paul (2013): The Kentucky senator faced multiple reports alleging he lifted lines for a speech from a Wikipedia plot summary of the movie Gattaca , and copied sections of an op-ed from another publication. [ 1 , 2 ]
  • Ashley Hinson (2020): The Iowa congressional candidate was accused by The New York Times of using verbatim sentences from news articles and other outlets in her campaign website text and op-eds. Her campaign blamed a staff writer employed by an outside consulting firm. [ 1 , 2 ]
  • Joni Ernst (2014): During her Iowa Senate race, reports emerged that sections of her local newspaper op-eds contained nearly identical text pulled from legislative summaries and governor speeches. [ 1 ]
  • Burgess Owens (2020): The Utah congressional nominee faced allegations that parts of his book, Why I Stand , contained uncredited passages lifted from various sources, including Wikipedia. Owens denied the claims, stating he properly cited his sources. [ 1 ]
With RNC Speech, Melania Trump Joins Long List Of Accused Plagiarists : NPR
 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.3.2  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Tacos! @1.3    3 months ago

Lol. Don't hurt yourself grasping for straws.

OF course they do. Imagine thinking that's relevant .

"whites commit plagiarism, therefore lying and engaging in institutional racism  to protect a black academic fraud whose entire career consists of unbelievable lies and fraud is totally okay!"

Banger of an argument there....

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
1.3.3  Tacos!  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.3.2    3 months ago
OF course they do. Imagine thinking that's relevant

It is relevant. You thought it was noteworthy to point to a single black person who committed plagiarism and lied about their qualifications as some kind of evidence that larger liberal or woke concerns for racial justice are a problem.

But you ignore the many millions of successful black people who haven’t lied about their record or committed plagiarism. Don’t they disprove your thesis?

And what about white cheaters that we agree exist? What do they prove? Should we stop celebrating white achievers? Should we assume successful white people cheat and lie? Are these white cheaters blocking the success of honest, qualified people of color?

Maybe everyone at university is cheating and this black guy is just the one who caught.

But no, you found one black cheater, and therefore you can reach a conclusion about black people generally, or hiring practices generally, or some other general rule that proves white males are being victimized by the allegedly racist liberal agenda. Ok.

You can reach no other conclusion based on this limited data. You had a preexisting feeling about the merit of successful black people and you think this anecdote supports that opinion. We call that confirmation bias. In this case, it appears to be confirmation of a racist bias.

One could argue that this, also, is a sample size of one, but we do have many, many examples of other articles you have seeded or comments you have posted, so we actually have more data about your thought process on this topic than you do about this one black professor.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.3.4  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Tacos! @1.3.3    3 months ago
You thought it was noteworthy to point to a single black person who committed plagiarism and

Because it's an international story that goes much deeper than someone just committing plagiarism. The guy was a serial fabulist who told crazy, easily refutable lies about his life and was completely unqualified for his job. 

Here's that MAGA rag, the NYT, explaining it

His peers knew he was a fraud:

The fact is that many of Arday’s black peers in academic sociology have been voicing concerns about him for a while. He seemed, to them, to have come out of nowhere. His performance at high-profile academic events did not match the credentials that were being touted. I have had various conversations with sociology professors in which this has been the main topic of conversation, and their questions began to mount into a list.

Yet the academy rallied around him, police were sicced on those who dared to question his lies...

essful black people who haven’t lied about their record or committed plagiarism. Don’t they disprove your thesis?

You've created quite the strawman.  The idea that other black people didn't lie somehow means it was acceptable for Cambridge to hire this liar because of his race is silly and one could drive a semi through the hole of that logic.   

no , you found one black cheater, and therefore you can reach a conclusion about black people generally

You imagination is running away with you.

w hite males are being victimized by the allegedly racist liberal agend with you. .

You understand how race discrimination works right? Do I need to explain that people who are discriminated against because of their are race are in fact victimized? 

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.3.5  devangelical  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.3.4    3 months ago

this article would be a fun place to explore irish stereotypes ...

 
 
 
MrFrost
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1.3.6  MrFrost  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.3.4    3 months ago
fabulist who told crazy, easily refutable lies about his life and was completely unqualified for his job. 

Signed,

Donald Trump. 

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
1.3.7  CB  replied to  Tacos! @1.3.3    3 months ago

It's simple exploitation for an agenda. MAGA supporters EXCEL and PROFIT at selling code-talking, half-truths, lies, and aggressions. . .at least until somebody speaks up to balance the aforementioned negativity with a set of counterpoints. 

What these willful fools wish is to have their narrative ("take") hang out in the social media sphere uncontested. . . and even go viral. . . without pushback. It is the best of all worlds for them when it does!  Of course, bringing in the POSITIVE to balance the NEGATIVE mitigates (as it should) their sloppiness at making an 'argument.' 

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
1.3.8  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.3.4    3 months ago

As usual, a good bullshitter (probably a paid surrogate) deliberately misses the obvious point: Y'all talk big about individuality until it does not suit your purposes and designs. Such bullshit will get called out here. What? You can't find a plagiarist in the states? Let's be clear: We have plagiarists, plural, right here in the states. I will venture the odds are such that somebody-somewhere right now is plagiarizing another writer in this country. And yet, you have set up 'shop' in England. Here is some advice: look around your own 'red' political door first. . . you won't even have to step outside of it! :)

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
1.3.9  Tacos!  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.3.4    3 months ago
You've created quite the strawman.  The idea that other black people didn't lie somehow means it was acceptable for Cambridge to hire this liar

Speaking of strawmen….jesus!

Why don’t you quote me where I said - in any way - that it was acceptable to hire this, or any other liar. 

In fact, I didn’t comment at all on the merit of his hiring. Let’s see if you have the integrity to admit that. I won’t hold my breath waiting for it to happen.

By the way, do you have any evidence that Cambridge knew it was hiring someone who had lied about their credentials or committed plagiarism? 

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
1.3.10  Tacos!  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.3.4    3 months ago
no , you found one black cheater, and therefore you can reach a conclusion about black people generally You imagination is running away with you.

I don’t think so. Your words:

Another victim of progressive racism...Racist white progressives need to feel good about themselves cause them to push unqualified minorities into positions they aren't qualified for and that often leads to failure and resulting mental health issues.

This story is all about race for you. If this professor were white, you would have never seeded the article, much less try to draw some conclusion about progressive race policies. You, and others on the right, also happily accuse other successful black people of success only because of DEI. See the many such comments on Kamala Harris, for example.

 
 
 
Gazoo
Masters Silent
1.3.11  Gazoo  replied to  devangelical @1.3.5    3 months ago

Or, used car salesmen stereotypes. 

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.3.12  devangelical  replied to  Gazoo @1.3.11    3 months ago

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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1.3.13  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Tacos! @1.3.3    3 months ago
Should we assume successful white people cheat and lie?

I think making that assumption for white conservative Christians who support and defend a liar and a cheater for President is quite reasonable.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.3.14  Split Personality  replied to  devangelical @1.3.5    3 months ago
this article would be a fun place to explore irish stereotypes ...

When can I start.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.3.15  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  MrFrost @1.3.6    3 months ago
Donald Trump. 

Thank you for proving my point.  

Progressives ability to repeatedly score own goals by justifying things through a comparison to the person they describe as the worst American in the world is truly awe inspiring. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.3.16  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Tacos! @1.3.10    3 months ago
’t think so. Your words:

Pay attention. That many black people are not plagiarists doesn't mean it was acceptable for Cambridge to hire this liar because of his race. Not does it justify race discrimination by universities.   

Feel free to actually address that. . 

his story is all about race for you. If this professor were white, you would have never seeded the article, 

Lol. Racist university policies involve race.  Of course race is involved.

Find a similar story of a university racially discriminating in the hiring and protection of an unqualified  white professor. 

u, and others on the right, also happily accuse other successful black people of success only because of DEI.

Well a system that discriminates on the basis of race creates that inference that unfairly touches those that succeed on their own merits.

Why are progressives so unable to admit they support race discrimination and that racially discriminatory policies  reward and punish people based on their race? 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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1.3.17  Tacos!  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.3.16    3 months ago
Find a similar story of a university racially discriminating in the hiring and protection of an unqualified  white professor. 

I see. You assume that all the white professors are qualified and that none have been hired instead of qualified, or even more qualified, people of color. Can you not see how that assumption might just be a wee bit racist?

Do you not understand that affirmative action or DEI type policies are meant, in part, to correct generations of hiring practices that have excluded people of color? Even today, there are studies that when people apply for a job using a name perceived to be of non-white ethnicity or otherwise “foreign,” those applicants can’t even get an interview.

White-sounding names get called back for jobs more than Black ones, a new study finds

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Employers Discriminate against Job Applicants with Black-Sounding Names, Study Indicates

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.3.18  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Tacos! @1.3.17    3 months ago
You assume that all the white professors are qualified and that none have been hired instead of qualified, or even more qualified, people of color.

There's literally a system in place to ensure that less qualified people of some colors are hired over over qualified people of other colors. 

Does that mean all "white" (why don't you include Asians?) professors are always the most qualified hire? No. 

But it does mean there's a now illegal system that discriminated against them on the basis of their race and would make it exceedingly difficult for them to be hired in place of more qualified people who the university actively discriminated in favor of.  

and that affirmative action or DEI type policies are meant, in part, to correct generations of hiring practices that have excluded people of color?

Of course. Do  you not understand that I don't favor discriminating against people in 2026 on the basis of race becasue completely diffeent people in past generations ago were discriminated against? 

Do you not understand that some of us may object to racially discriminating against a first generation student whose Korean single mother works in a laundry in favor of a black kid born when Obama was President whose parents graduated from Duke because of things that happened generations ago? 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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1.3.19  Tacos!  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.3.16    3 months ago
Racist university policies involve race.  Of course race is involved.

Which racist policies, specifically?

 
 
 
Tacos!
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1.3.20  Tacos!  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.3.18    3 months ago
There's literally a system in place to ensure that less qualified people of some colors are hired over over qualified people of other colors. 

You don’t say. Tell us about this system. What is it called? How does it function? How is “qualified” measured? How is success measured?

It seems to me that “qualifications” are both objective and subjective. Why does anyone want to hire an employee they consider to be “less qualified?” 

Do  you not understand that I don't favor discriminating against people in 2026 on the basis of race becasue completely diffeent people in past generations ago were discriminated against? 

It’s not simply past generations. The links I gave you are studying modern hiring practices that discriminate against non-white applicants. You don’t even need to read the articles. The headlines will do.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.3.21  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Tacos! @1.3.20    3 months ago
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[he] [links I gave you are studying] [modern hiring practices that discriminate against non-white applicants.]

[✘] Are those legal or illegal practices? Who is defending them? There are studies showing universities/employers discriminate against active Christians and/or Republicans. Do you favor discriminating against non-Christians/Republicans to make up for that? .

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.3.22  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Tacos! @1.3.19    3 months ago

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Tacos!
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1.3.23  Tacos!  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.3.21    3 months ago
You are unfamiliar with affirmative action programs?

I am. But your familiarity with a commonly used term doesn’t tell us anything about this story.

Are those legal or illegal practices?

Does that matter? Look it up if you’re genuinely wondering, but I doubt you are.

Who is defending them?

Why do you ask? Did I say someone was? Again, is that related to the story or anything I said?

There are studies showing universities/employers discriminate against active Christians and/or Republicans. 

If you say so. You keep referencing discrimination, but you haven’t demonstrated that discrimination even happened in this case.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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1.3.24  Tacos!  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.3.22    3 months ago
Giving preferences on the basis of race. have you not heard of them? 

You have proof this man was hired based on racial preference? You have proof this was a result of a policy at Cambridge?

I really don't feel like explaining the last 50 years at this point, so google is your friend.

I can’t Google the assumptions and prejudices you hold about race.

 
 
 
CB
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1.3.25  CB  replied to  Tacos! @1.3.9    3 months ago
By the way, do you have any evidence that Cambridge knew it was hiring someone who had lied about their credentials or committed plagiarism?

I just asked the same question (and saw this even though I voted it up at an earlier time) at 1.2.24. 

MAGA supporter Sean, has not deigned to aggressively ATTACK this question, because as I think about another conservative (Clarence Thomas) who was an affirmative action recipient at Yale University in the States. . . MAGA supporter Sean, has never complained or posted a negative thing about Justice Thomas' thirty plus year career. . . and grifting at the supreme court. Why not you might ask? Because affirmative action recipients, plural, like Thomas, do a lot of 'nice things' for conservatives. . .thus, protecting themselves from being written about until a 'breaking point' is reached and they are removed from their jobs due to a pressure campaign or. . . suicide if they can't take the loss of status, position, and open disgrace.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.3.26  Split Personality  replied to  CB @1.3.25    3 months ago
It's "quixotic" to oppose race discrimination I guess.

Touche.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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1.3.27  MrFrost  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.3.15    3 months ago
Thank you for proving my point.  

You're welcome! 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Sean Treacy @1    3 months ago
a serial plagiarist and a serial liar who told lies that no honest person could possibly believe, killed himself 

I like how2 1.1, 1.1.1, 1.1.2, 1.1.3, and 1.1.4 don't prove you wrong or even remotely false.  About the equivalent of stomping your feet and shouting "didn happen, didn happen"

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2  seeder  Sean Treacy    3 months ago
The death of Jason Arday is tragic, and makes me so angry. Even the most casual observer could see he was a vulnerable fantasist. A number of people at a number of academic institutions have serious questions to answer. They put him into positions he was clearly not qualified for so they could have a black wunderkind to show off, they pushed him into the spotlight for their own benefit. His exposure was inevitable, a case of when, not if. His whole world fell apart.

 
 
 
CB
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3  CB    3 months ago
“Quite a bit of the British media should ask themselves some serious questions as to whether the tenor and volume of the coverage they gave to this man was remotely proportionate,” journalist Lewis Goodall said on X.

So here is a journalist taking on his own profession about the level and (withering) intensity placed on this man. . .overdone?? And then, here is SEAN TREACY in the United States attempting to verbally abuse. . .the dead. 

The lesson I get from this. . . To put it bluntly: we can not let MAGA supporters off the hook for anything! These people are merciless and dreadful. That is the reality. We are forced to look MAGA supporters DEAD in their f-king eyes and tell them to go to Hell! Why? Because they care nothing for us, want nothing for us, and have nothing for us—as they drench themselves in all that is good in this country through self-serving acts and activities. MAGA supporters do not wish to share this country with us. They wish for us to kiss their HIARCHIAL, TRIBALISTIC, NARROW-MINDED BEHINDS. 

To put it mildly, we can't help MAGA supporters if they choose not to take the help (compromise).

As for Mr. Arday. Well sir, you are dead now so there is nothing more we can do or say to help you! You should have withstood this time under the spotlight.

Oftentimes, I wonder about people making mistakes "full frontal" in the media. . . heck, I once even wondered about Trump (Swalwell, Platner, and (Max) Miller) being 'safe' after all the negative coverage they receive/d. . . because not everybody can manage this and come out the other side relatively safe.

Mr. Arday, you are dead now. . .and the creepy part is the same 'freaks' in the United States that did not let the loss of kids and teachers at Sandy Hook rest in peace from their unfortunate crossing of path with a mass shooter. . . are at it again. Disturbing the grave for some stupid and regrettable point that will be loss on everybody else that is not "MAGA." 

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.1  Split Personality  replied to  CB @3    3 months ago

see 1.2.14 please.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.2  Split Personality  replied to  CB @3    3 months ago
because not everybody can manage this and come out the other side relatively safe.

The University that approved Arday's thesis, stands by it.

I had to read hundreds of books to write a thesis 40 years ago without a computer.

My bibliography was longer than my thesis.  Did I repeat verbatim something that I read prior, probably.  I reject the notion that potential plagiarism devalues a decade of one's studies. 

I liken it to the probability that all of the great music has already been written and heard and rearranged and it's almost impossible to repeat what the greats like Beethoven or Bach have done without repeating some notes in the same order of some snippet of music. 

Arday was professionally assassinated by the press and rabid academic purist's eager to use AI to tear each other down. Throw in the racism and Autism and he did not have a chance. 

 
 
 
CB
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3.2.1  CB  replied to  Split Personality @3.2    3 months ago

I share 1.2.15 with you and others, SP. The usual suspects could give a damn about real life or its facts. They got what they wanted out of him. . . literally gone in more than one way!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4  seeder  Sean Treacy    3 months ago

this is  good summary: 


This is the poison chalice of the state religion of diversity. It lays traps for the very people it celebrates. It handpicks members of ‘the oppressed’ for moral anointment and institutional gushing while leaving them open to exposure as others start to query their credentials. That’s the toxic bargain of identity politics: it builds teetering pedestals for ethnic-minority thinkers, meaning their fall from grace is often twice as fatal.

And what a pedestal they made for Arday.

They  worshipped him as ‘the best in the world’. They beatified him as a black wunderkind whose very presence in a place like Cambridge might help to wash away its sins of whiteness. They canonised him as a living monument to ‘decolonisation’.

It was precisely this, their giddy, narcissistic desire to manufacture a kind of black saviour, that made them turn a blind eye to the questionable elements of Arday’s CV and life story. They sacrificed their due diligence to the god of decolonisation.

And Arday suffered.

He was both poster boy and sacrificial lamb of the diversity crusade. Even as he gained from it – reaching the dizzying heights of a Cambridge professorship – he was being damned by it. The foundation of myth and sand his starry career was built on was untenable. Its collapse was a given. It is a testament to the ideological blindness of the inhabitants of our ivory towers that none of them foresaw it. . . .

The Faustian ruthlessness of it all is mindblowing. . .

. The media is the only institution in this entire tragic scandal that did its job properly. Journalists found a story and they told it. It was the academy and Arday’s colleagues who failed to do their jobs. Who failed to prize merit over identity, and failed to foresee the public embarrassment that would befall their falsely promoted friend. They ignored the truth – the media found it.

I and others have been arguing for years that the politics of identity is a disaster for all, black and white alike. White kids are overlooked, black kids are patronised. Whites are branded ‘privileged’, blacks ‘oppressed’. Whites are seen as the beneficiaries of historic crimes who must atone for past sins, blacks as history’s perma-victims who require the gracious helping hand of the state. We are demonised or infantilised according to the accident of our race. Enough. Let our monument to Jason Arday be the restoration of the true ideal of equality. We couldn’t save Jason but we can save merit from the monstrous jaws of identity.

 
 
 
CB
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5  CB    3 months ago
Q. Racialized voting realignment. . .using racial appeals

“Racialized voting realignment using racial appeals” usually means: over time, voters who share (or are assumed to share) a race/ethnicity begin to vote increasingly together—often because political messaging emphasizes racial threat, racial hierarchy, cultural conflict, or “who belongs,” rather than only policy or ideology. When that pattern becomes stable, it can look like a realignment.

Here are the main mechanics people mean when they discuss it:

Racial appeals (message side): Campaigns craft ads and rhetoric that cue race directly or indirectly—e.g., “crime,” “welfare,” “immigration,” “law and order,” “taking our jobs,” “cultural change,” “urban decline.” These issues are framed so that voters map them onto racialized groups.

Group cueing + identity alignment (audience side): Even when race isn’t named, voters infer “who is being talked about,” and partisan identity starts to track racial group identity more tightly.

Elite competition and signaling: Politicians signal alignment with dominant in-group norms (“we defend our community”) and distance from out-groups, which can consolidate support among some racial blocs.

Policy sorting becomes electoral sorting: Once parties become associated with different groups, party brands harden. Then policy platforms that might be acceptable in other contexts get read through a racial lens.

Feedback loop: Close elections incentivize more targeted racial appeals; if they work, parties double down, and the voting pattern strengthens.
What it looks like empirically (common indicators)

Rising within-group homogeneity: Increasing support for a party within a racial/ethnic group over time.

Rising between-group polarization: Larger vote-share gaps between racial groups for the same party.

Issue framing tied to race: Campaign language that repeatedly links “economic and social problems” to racialized groups.

Attitudes mediating the effect: Measures like perceived threat, perceived status loss, or cultural threat helping explain voting shifts (often via surveys and experiments).

A quick typology of “racial appeals”

Threat appeals: crime, disorder, demographic change as danger.
Status-loss appeals: “they” are displacing “us.”
Cultural appeals: religion/values/“way of life” framing.
Association appeals: linking a racial group to particular policy outcomes or stereotypes.

Credit: DuckAI
 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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6  Jeremy Retired in NC    3 months ago

How does an article about a fake professor committing suicide amount to an idiotic argument about race.  

 
 
 
CB
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6.1  CB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @6    3 months ago

Well, clearly Mr. Arday was not a "fake" professor or Sean would not have bothered with it. In fact, it is because an ACTUAL professor at a prominent university, who is black, and as MAGA supporters like to put it (by being black. . .and specifically not a conservative he qualifies for removal), he is smeared by the anti-diversity, equity, and inclusion SQUAD on NT! 

Cheers!  /s

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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6.1.1  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  CB @6.1    3 months ago
" professor or Sean would not have bothered with it. In fact, it is because an ACTUAL professor at a prominent university

He was a fraud. His whole life was a fraud. He had no business being a professor at any university, let alone an internationally famous one. 

by being black. . .and specifically not a conservative he qualifies for removal

Congrats on a spectacularly dishonest claim! I doubt Trump would stoop that low to smear people . 

 
 
 
CB
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6.1.2  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @6.1.1    3 months ago

A MAGA supporters can doubt any damn think he or she wishes. . . since we all know for a fact that MAGA aggression permits lying in a time of (what MAGA supporters perceive as) 'warfare' on liberals. The collective "you" can't be persuaded otherwise—so why bother trying.

As for his whole life being a 'fraud'. . . one could ask how you would know. . . and would that be because he is black, homosexual (in appearance). As nobody could possibly commit fraud their WHOLE life! Sean, it appears you being Trump "dramatic" - and self-serving as usual.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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6.1.3  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  CB @6.1.2    3 months ago
we all know for a fact that MAGA aggression permits lying in a time o

lying like claiming he was fired for being black? 

 . one could ask how you would know

Because he told stories about his life from his childhood on  that are obviously not true. 

 
 
 
CB
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6.1.4  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @6.1.3    3 months ago

And from alleged lies the collective you 'move' to judge his WHOLE LIFE a lie?!  Maybe try that with MAGA supporters that rather enjoy cheating minorities out of a fair existence based on—illusion, delusion, and outright theft of "riches" and social possibilities.

This is what your article (above) details about Mr. Arday. . . .:

The university said at the time that the plagiarism allegations had been investigated by Liverpool John Moores University, which awarded Arday’s doctorate. The university later opened an investigation into “new information” about his academic qualifications, “following new information about Professor Arday’s qualifications and honorary appointments,” it said in a statement.

How you derive from that (above) a narrative about Mr. Arday's childhood is beyond me. I recommend you stick to what you know. . . and can prove.

 
 
 
George
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6.1.5  George  replied to  CB @6.1.4    3 months ago
cheating minorities out of a fair existence based on

Victim alert, Victim alert.......News flash nobody owes you anything. Basing victim hood on skin color is racist.[✘]

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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6.1.6  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  CB @6.1.4    3 months ago
ow you derive from that (above) a narrative about Mr. Arday's childhood is beyond me. I recommend you stick to what you know. . . and can prove.

There is more to this story than one paragraph.  I've provided numerous sources detailing some of his lies. Feel free to read the New York Times article I supplied above.  

 
 
 
CB
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6.1.7  CB  replied to  George @6.1.5    3 months ago

Nobody owes YOU anything either. . . [deleted] [✘] So yes, we are 'all' at one time or another somebody's VICTIM. Why? Because we live in "give and take" COMMUNITY (Proximity) of each other!

Therefore, we make 'community' or associated POLICIES/RULES/LAWS that make (or are supposed to make) life work for all of us. . .and not just MAGA conservatives!

Let's discuss farther. . . if a MAGA supporter thinks he or she can.

 
 
 
George
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6.1.8  George  replied to  CB @6.1.7    3 months ago
we are 'all' at one time or another somebody's VICTIM.

NO!!!! Unless you are a victim of a crime, or unless you are a pussy who blames others for your failures, then you claim victimhood.  

 
 
 
CB
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6.1.9  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @6.1.6    3 months ago

Well, since you are "all things" Arday. . . why don't you reference the link (as I am not going to dig through the thread (my time is valuable to me) looking for what you can supply, even if it means repeating it.  (Just in case you are wondering, I am listening to four separate audio segments for which I have to get through ASAP. So, if you want a 'timely reply'—assist me with a link to your article or at least the comment you state you "supplied above."). 

Otherwise, if you do not-it must not be that important to this discussion!

 
 
 
CB
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6.1.10  CB  replied to  George @6.1.8    3 months ago

[deleted.] [✘] . [✘] it does not change the facts. We are 'all' victims of somebody else at one time or another by virtue of not getting everything we want because in community we give up something (compromise) just to be so.

As far as being a victim goes. . . well, let's just say that liberals are not going to be a 'victim' of conservatives any longer. [deleted][✘]

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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6.1.11  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  CB @6.1    3 months ago
Well, clearly Mr. Arday was not a "fake" professor

That's one opinion. Facts are still coming out.

it is because an ACTUAL professor at a prominent university, who is black,

That only matters to the racists...

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Jeremy Retired in NC
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6.1.12  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  CB @6.1.2    3 months ago
since we all know for a fact that MAGA aggression permits lying in a time of (what MAGA supporters perceive as) 'warfare' on liberals.

Another unfounded idiotic opinion.  So far you haven't been correct on a damn thing on this article.

and would that be because he is black, homosexual 

yeah, nobody gives a shit.

Trump 

Trump has nothing to do with this frauds suicide.  Quit deflecting.

 
 
 
CB
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6.1.13  CB  replied to  George @6.1.8    3 months ago

Who are you calling a 'Pussy'? I am NOT taking/accepting that from you!

 
 
 
devangelical
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6.1.14  devangelical  replied to  CB @6.1.13    3 months ago

haven't you been watching the news? do you not understand how dangerous it is for a gay male to interact with maga republicans? you're probably engaging in the equivalent of foreplay within the minds of closeted republicans and risking sexual assault. the list of closeted maga pole smokers grows daily. be careful, if they thought you were under the age of 18, you'd already be a victim ...

 
 
 
CB
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6.1.15  CB  replied to  devangelical @6.1.14    3 months ago

You got jokes! jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif jrSmiley_54_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Tacos!
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6.2  Tacos!  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @6    3 months ago

It was Sean’s initial reaction that this was the result of “progressive racism,” though he has offered no evidence of this. Most other people seem to understand that people of all colors, in all industries, lie about their qualifications every day.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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6.2.1  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Tacos! @6.2    3 months ago
t was Sean’s initial reaction that this was the result of “progressive racism,” though he has offered no evidence of this.

Of course it is. He was hired and promoted as the "best in the world" because he was black.  As the New York Times admitted, his actual record, plagiarism aside, is mediocre and not up to the standard of a tenured professor at Cambridge. Progressive racism put him in a position he was totally unqualified for, as his colleagues discovered when he started up to conferences, and was protected by them because better to have a fraud than admit DEI promotes unqualified people.  Another shining example of the depravities caused by the trying to protect the delusion of DEI. 

ost other people seem to understand that people of all colors, in all industries, lie about their qualifications every day.

Most other people also seem to understand that is not a defense of Cambridge' hiring, promotion and protection of Mr. Arday.  (what other universities call the police to try and prevent a journalist from investigating plagiarism?)  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.2.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Tacos! @6.2    3 months ago

some prejudices are not addressable or redressable

 
 
 
CB
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6.2.3  CB  replied to  Tacos! @6.2    3 months ago

MAGA supporters sell bullsh-t everyday. They do not give a sh-t about liberals, so they distort, bend, and even 'break' faith with facts, truth, and oh the exaggerations and blowing out of proportions of all things liberal. It takes a fool's understanding to believe the sh-t they state. People should not be mind-manipulated by MAGA supporters and Trump surrogates on the internet!

Mr. Arday is dead, probably from suicide (facts on that not known by me as of this writing). And yet, MAGA supporters are ignoring any respect of the dead-just as they did AFTER he resigned and continuing to tap dance on his grave. 

This is what we are up against, Liberals!

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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6.2.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Tacos! @6.2    3 months ago
It was Sean’s initial reaction

I don't care about Sean's initial reaction.   That has nothing to do with my question.  How does an article about a fake professor committing suicide amount to an idiotic argument about race?  

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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6.2.5  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  CB @6.2.3    3 months ago
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Sean Treacy
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6.2.6  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @6.2.2    3 months ago
some prejudices are not addressable or redressable

I completely agree. Lots of paternalistic progressive  white people don't seem to want (or believe) back people are capable of succeeding without their help. 

 
 
 
George
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6.2.7  George  replied to  Sean Treacy @6.2.6    3 months ago

That is because they are racists and feel minorities are inferior. That is the foundation of the democrat party.

 
 
 
CB
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6.2.8  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @6.2.6    3 months ago

Black Americans thank LIBERALS for all the help over the decades which have led to varying measures of political and social successes and liberties, because bigoted conservatives. . . especially black (confused in the head and self-serving)  conservatives are mostly full of sh-t!

 
 
 
CB
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6.2.9  CB  replied to  George @6.2.7    3 months ago

MAGA bigoted supporters projection do not carry weight with the facts on the ground where people live. Worry about y'all's "foundation" because it appears to this nation and the world to be locked under Trump's 'rotunda' butt!

 
 
 
Tacos!
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6.2.10  Tacos!  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @6.2.4    3 months ago
I don't care about Sean's initial reaction.   That has nothing to do with my question.

I literally answered your question. This article was seeded by Sean, and the very first comment was his comment that race was the reason for the situation. The debate evolved from there.

You asked how we got into an argument about race and that is the answer. Sean started it. I’m sorry - not sorry - if that offends you because he’s your buddy or whatever, but his comment about race is objectively, inarguably the very first comment on the story.

And with every succeeding comment, he has doubled down on that perspective. Whether I agree or disagree with him is not relevant. His comment started the argument about race.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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6.2.11  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  CB @6.2.8    3 months ago

, because  bigoted conservatives. . . especially black (confused in the head and self-serving)  conservatives are mostly full of sh-t

You must really hate Fredrick Douglass:

The American people have always been anxious to know what they shall do with us. Gen. Banks was distressed with solicitude as to what he should do with the Negro. Everybody has asked the question, and they learned to ask it early of the abolitionists, “What shall we do with the Negro?” I have had but one answer from the beginning. Do nothing with us! Your doing with us has already played the mischief with us. Do nothing with us! If the apples will not remain on the tree of their own strength, if they are worm eaten at the core, if they are early ripe and disposed to fall, let them fall! I am not for tying or fastening them on the tree in any way, except by nature’s plan, and if they will not stay there, let them fall. And if the Negro cannot stand on his own legs, let him fall also. All I ask is, give him a chance to stand on his own legs! Let him alone! If you see him on his way to school let him alone, don’t disturb him! If you see him going to the dinner table at a hotel, let him go! If you see him going to the ballot-box, let him alone, don’t disturb him! If you see him going into a work-shop, just let him alone,—your interference is doing him a positive injury. Gen. Banks’ “preparation” is of a piece with this attempt to prop up the Negro. Let him fall if he cannot stand alone! If the Negro cannot live by the line of eternal justice, so beautifully pictured to you in the illustration used by Mr. Phillips, the fault will not be yours, it will be his who made the Negro, and established that line for his government. Let him live or die by that.

We are now in a bizarro world, where words have reversed meanings. "Racists" believe the government should not discriminate on the basis of race and that black people are not permanently doomed victims unable to compete with others without discrimination on their behalf. 

 
 
 
CB
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6.2.12  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @6.2.11    3 months ago
All I ask is, give him a chance to stand on his own legs! Let him alone! If you see him on his way to school let him alone, don’t disturb him! If you see him going to the dinner table at a hotel, let him go! If you see him going to the ballot-box, let him alone, don’t disturb him! If you see him going into a work-shop, just let him alone,—your interference is doing him a positive injury.

The obvious question: Since when have bigoted conservatives EVER left the "Negro" alone?! 

You might have (had) a point 'if only' - the experiment in self-reliance had occurred. . . of course, meddlesome bigoted conservatives can not help themselves at meddling in the affairs of citizens in this country who do not give a damn about them-except for all the 'running interference' on a permanent basis.

Conservatives even lie(d) about Jesus: A 'designer' (European) Jesus for white conservatives—REALLY?! (Jesus was Middle-Eastern.) Why lie on Jesus, oh right: Bigotry.

 
 
 
CB
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6.2.13  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @6.2.11    3 months ago
We are now in a bizarro world, where words have reversed meanings. "Racists" believe the government should not discriminate on the basis of race and that black people are not permanently doomed victims unable to compete with others without discrimination on their behalf. 

That smacks of some sick and twisted logic that practically 'evaporates' at ground level. Our government has been a foe and friend (and now foe again) to minorities in this country. Why? Because of bigoted white conservatives who think somebody 'WILLED' them a country. . . even though all these other citizens live and surround them every day! Sick and twisted in the head logic won't fly on NT!

 
 
 
CB
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6.2.14  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @6.2.11    3 months ago
“What shall we do with the Negro?”

Frederick Douglass is often the name people associate with the “Negro” line, but the wording “What shall we do with the Negro?” is not reliably attributable to Douglass himself.

What is widely attested is that:

The phrase is connected to Samuel Ringgold Ward (19th century), in the context of addressing racist social attitudes and political questions of the era.
If you saw it paired with Douglass, it may be a misattribution, a paraphrase, or a later author repeating racist language while discussing abolition/emancipation.

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Jeremy Retired in NC
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6.2.15  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Tacos! @6.2.10    3 months ago
I literally answered your question. This article was seeded by Sean

What a bullshit excuse.  You didn't "literally answer" my question.  All you did was show you don't have the ability to scroll past comments.

You asked how we got into an argument about race and that is the answer. Sean started it. 

And you ran with it.  You could have changed the whole comments section but you all had to throw your little tantrum about some irrelevant shit.

And with every succeeding comment, he has doubled down on that perspective. 

What part of "I don't care about Sean's initial reaction." so hard for you to understand.  It has nothing to do with this thread of comments.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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6.2.16  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  CB @6.2.8    3 months ago
Black Americans thank LIBERALS for all the help over the decades

They gave hand-outs.  They gaslit blacks into believing they cannot accomplish anything without assistance based solely on their skin color.  And many were gullible enough to believe it.  That's why Affirmative Action lasted so long.  It's also why Affirmative Action was renames DEI.

 
 
 
George
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6.2.17  George  replied to  Sean Treacy @6.2.11    3 months ago

The only thing more pathetic than a racist is those who feel they aren't smart enough to succeed without white people helping them.

 
 
 
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6.2.18  CB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @6.2.16    3 months ago

Your comments are those of a [removed] [.] [✘] If I was you. . . thankfully I am not! Jeremy Retired In NC. . . if I ever need somebody to tell me about bigoted conservatives. . .I might seek the collective "You." On the other-hand, I could never trust anything the collective you say about matters of race. . . because ONE-WAY is the highway y'all travel. And, I have a hard time expecting 'greatness' from someone who thought it wise to say (he could) shoot a liberal in the back of the head. No, I have not forgotten that one from the 2020 election discussion on NT (yet).

 
 
 
CB
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6.2.19  CB  replied to  George @6.2.17    3 months ago

Truth stings, eh?  I'm sorry, that we need some 'help' in this country. . . and we damn sure are not going to get it from. . .MAGA supporters.

Y'all love to hand-pick your "negroes" into the fold one-by-one, so you can tell them exactly what to think!  /s

 
 
 
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6.2.20  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  CB @6.2.13    3 months ago
That smacks of some sick and twisted logic

Progressives' Orwellian logic is sick. Race discrimination is not racist, anyone who opposes race discrimination is a racist etc.. The damage such dishonest mental gymnastics must do to the thoughtful progressive must be immense. Probably why most can't admit they support discriminating against people on the basis of their race. It's easier to  hide behind mealy mouthed euphemisms and lies.

Our government has been a foe and friend (and now foe again) to minorities in this country. W

Proving Douglass's prophetic. 50 years of active race discrimination have damaged many blacks (and their white enablers) to the point where they they believe they are entitled to race discrimination on their behalf forever and that anyone who opposes race discrimination that they benefit from is their "foe," while their enablers burnish their self regard by engaging in paternalistic condescension to the poor black people who can't survive without their help.  The idea of being treated equally is intolerable to them.

"your interference is doing him a positive injury." Indeed. It injuries everyone involved in the rotten system.  Seeing some black America clinging to racist favoritism and imbued with a permanent sense of victimhood despite being born to the type of advantages Douglass could only dream of is a tragedy that would probably leave Douglass weeping. 

Sad to see. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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6.2.21  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  CB @6.2.19    3 months ago
Y'all love to hand-pick your "negroes" into the fold one-by-one, so you can tell them exactly what to think!

White rightwing conservatives welcome any black Americans with open arms as long as they follow a few basic rules. Rule one, they're not allowed to mention discrimination, slavery, Jim Crow or segregation. Rule number two, they must embrace their support role in the party just like the women do, leadership roles are reserved for white male Christian elders other than a handful of token positions given to those who have sworn fealty and abandoned any thoughts of running things or making actual decisions in the party or society. So, while the rightwing conservatives claim to be diverse because they've found a few Clarence Thomas's, no one with eyes and more than half a brain are fooled. Sadly, that means there are likely still millions of fooled rightwing conservatives.

 
 
 
CB
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6.2.22  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @6.2.20    3 months ago

Well Sean, you won't have to worry about it. . .just stop pretending to care. We SEE the collective "you." We see MAGA supporters WHINING 'night and day-day and night' and desperately trying to turn back the hands of time—if only. We are wise to y'all and the 'displays.'  

Actually, I have decided I am going to enjoy 'sharing' the truth of your projection since you adore talking about Blacks and Others so much. My, my, my, this is going to get interesting, so very much so!  (I'm elated! :))

Frederick Douglass? Or, Samuel Ringgold Ward? They are not the same individual!

 
 
 
CB
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6.2.23  CB  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @6.2.21    3 months ago

Yes, all blacks have to do is lose their "collective bargaining power" as a group (power in numbers) and go 'forth' as individuals among the conservative white majority-emptying themselves of any effectual power (consolidation) to move or contend against their conservative 'Masters.'  It's called: Conformity. Don't rock the boat. Or, "the Donald" will primary your solidary butt until you can't even get a gig sweeping floors at any conservative conventions.  And we know he will do it, because he has done similarly to white republicans that wont' kiss his big 'rotunda' butt (and MAGA swoons and bows low to the ground asking for whom they can 'toss' overboard the great conservative 'ship' of state for NOT being ONE with "the Donald." 

 
 
 
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6.2.24  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  CB @6.2.18    3 months ago

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Jeremy Retired in NC
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6.2.25  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Sean Treacy @6.2.20    3 months ago
The damage such dishonest mental gymnastics must do to the thoughtful progressive must be immense.

That damage is evident.  Look at them as a whole. 

  • They were gullible enough to think somebody suffering from dementia was "sharp as a tack"
  • They think men can have babies and mensurate. 
  • They shriek for equality.  Then stomp their feet and cry when everything they were using to gaslight minorities is removed (Affirmative Action / DEI) to get that equality.
  • They claim they're not racist but break EVERYTHING down by race.
  • They claim to be "accepting" and "tolerant" as long as you are in lock step with them.  The slightest variation and they lose their shit and start shrieking like harpies.

That shit is exhausting.

 
 
 
CB
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6.2.26  CB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @6.2.24    3 months ago

Glad you did not deny it! :) So the 'story' has been now confirmed!

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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6.2.27  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  CB @6.2.26    3 months ago

I'll take "Things that exist only in your imagination" for $200 Alex.

 
 
 
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6.2.28  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @6.2.24    3 months ago

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Dismayed Patriot
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6.2.29  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @6.2.28    3 months ago

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And the punishment starts:

Academic who raised concerns over Jason Arday suspended by Ghent University

Nathan Cofnas, the academic who had ​raised plagiarism concerns ‌regarding the late Cambridge professor   Jason Arday, said on Thursday ​that he had ​been suspended by Belgium's ⁠Ghent University.
"I was just ​suspended by Ghent University. ​They will almost certainly fire me," Cofnas wrote on ​his X account.
Ghent University ​did not immediately respond to ‌a ⁠Reuters' email requesting comment.
Arday, once hailed as Cambridge's youngest Black professor, was ​found ​dead ⁠last Friday after weeks of intense ​scrutiny over accusations ​of ⁠plagiarism and other claims. Arday denied the allegation ⁠of ​plagiarism but ​acknowledged making mistakes.
 
 
 
CB
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7.1  CB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7    3 months ago

Good. So when and if he is fired. . .Mr. Cofnas can open his own university. Or, just go work for a self-declared conservative college or university. . .and enjoy his "lily white' world that he obviously wants and thinks is superior. 

From what I read (so far), Mr. Arday, made some hard to explain and hard to understand statements, and it was the responsibility of the university hiring team to validate him (so that this kind of thing would not happen on the university's "watch". . . and yet here we are).

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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7.1.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  CB @7.1    3 months ago
So when and if he is fired

Fired for what?  Exposing fraud?

 
 
 
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7.1.2  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.1.1    3 months ago

That’s the real crime in progressive academia, exposing fraud. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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7.1.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Sean Treacy @7.1.2    3 months ago

I'm honestly surprised that they don't push that as an actual crime instead of turning it into something it's not.  

 
 
 
CB
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7.1.4  CB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.1.1    3 months ago

No, not for exposing (alleged) fraud. . . .  Btw, I have found the real complaint Mr. Cofnas leveled against Mr. Arday. . .has MAGA supporters found the complaint in document form? (MORE ON THAT LATER.)

This is an excerpt regarding Mr. Cofnas suspension by Ghent University. . . :

"The death of Professor Arday should prompt reflection," Ghent University said in a statement. "We hope that lessons will be learnt from what has happened regarding the way we treat one another both within and outside the academic world, particularly when people become the subject of public controversy.

That letter to Confas from Ghent University claims that "complaints, reports, and concerning signals" have come from "across the wider university community" regarding his "conduct and public actions." These issues were particulary "raised in relation to various interviews published in which you participated and the statements you made during those interviews."

It goes on to say that "The manner in which you publicly presented your role in the allegations concerning the late professor Jason Arday has reinforced concerns among the university’s community that your public interventions seem to develop into targeted campaigns of professional elimination." And thus, concludes the letter, Cofnas needs to be eliminated.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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7.1.5  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  CB @7.1.4    3 months ago
No, not for exposing (alleged) fraud.

So for exposing fraud.  Now keep in mind that is using the liberal definition and application of terms.  Alleged / unproven = guilty, things like that.

 
 
 
CB
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7.1.6  CB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.1.5    3 months ago
"The manner in which you publicly presented your role in the allegations concerning the late professor Jason Arday has reinforced concerns among the university’s community that your public interventions seem to develop into targeted campaigns of professional elimination."

And that is where MAGA supporters like you come in Jeremy: Keeping this "alive" even though the alleged plagiarist has died.  MAGA supporters seem to think liberals can be MANIPULATED by their aggressive tendencies to not let sh-t go, even when it has been decided. Au contraire, MAGA supporters! We, 'everybody' - sees through the transparent scheme. 

BTW, you apparently do not have the 'accusation' document from ex-Professor Cofnas to support your 'hasty' narrative. . . so you're here winging it.  Typical: Have half a 'loaf' and off MAGA supporters go trying to sell 'half'!

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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7.1.7  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  CB @7.1.6    3 months ago
Keeping this "alive" even though the alleged plagiarist has died.

The plagiarist may have died but there is still the issue of how it got to this point.  How did he get "certified" with all this fraud out there.  What will become of the university that didn't do it's due diligence to ensure his certification was correct?  Why aren't you questioning it all?  Why do you want to hide from that so bad? Oh, that's right....it's the accountability piece that you're hiding from.  Now it all makes sense.  That's why you blamed it on something stupid like "racism".  You're trying to find a scapegoat.  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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7.1.8  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  CB @7.1.6    3 months ago

Funny you don’t make that argument when the topic is reparations for events  involving people who’ve been dead for a century.  But when it’s people currently in power who are promoting frauds to positions they have no business occupying and that harms students and debases universities you call it old news and wash your hands of it,

Very odd,

 
 
 
CB
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7.1.9  CB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.1.7    3 months ago
How did he get "certified" with all this fraud out there.  What will become of the university that didn't do it's due diligence to ensure his certification was correct?  Why aren't you questioning it all? 

Really. So now I am the 'accountable' point of contact for a UK university? I am the 'vetter' for university hires in England?!

I will have you know the obvious. . . psst. . .come closer. . .The university/ies in this country do not even consult me about their hiring/firing practices! And the UK? I am sure calling me for any of its professorships 'needs,' small or large, NEVER CROSSES THEIR MIND.

 Why aren't you questioning it all?  Why do you want to hide from that so bad? Oh, that's right....it's the accountability piece that you're hiding from.

I did not question it because it is out of the country and like us, the UK universities RESERVE THE RIGHT to manage their own institutions separate and respective from any 'BIG FOOTING' of their campuses and territory/ies. That is, I strive to talk about what the United States is doing seeing that I am a citizen of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. 

Try to be less 'thirsty' - okay.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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7.1.10  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sean Treacy @7.1.8    3 months ago
But when it’s people currently in power who are promoting frauds to positions they have no business occupying

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CB
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7.1.11  CB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.1.7    3 months ago
That's why you blamed it on something stupid like "racism".

So you want to 'slip' that one pass us. . . and make it stick? Au contraire, Jeremy. We know this is racial because MAGA supporters apparently not able to produce sufficient fraudsters (in black and brown skin) went over seas looking for a 'bad actor' to 'lynch' as an object lesson.

Jason Arday allegedly committed plagiarism and if found (after the schools investigation/s end) to be guilty. . . then, his actions and his possible suicide are on his head and heart. . . and I do not have to defend anything. . . including his black/brown skin. It is clear that a great many people failed here from his first university that issued his Ph.D to the college hirers that apparently build on what others supposedly had done.

The fact that you can not find time to single out one white plagiarist conservative amongst the many found to be so in this country. . . speaks volume about what you are about and up to!

BTW, you still have not mentioned if you have any documentation of what the detailed allegations about him. Still winging it I see. (I know what Cofnas alleges Arday did. . . :))

 
 
 
CB
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7.1.12  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @7.1.8    3 months ago

What is very odd is how 'thirsty' you are to 'pound' a dead professor. . . given a Ph.D. (alleged to be a plagiarist) by his alma mater, and hired several times over by colleges and universities, in the end, apparently leading to heartbreak and death.

Here you are playing at a remarkable stupid angle of trying to GUILTTRIP the whole world about something in the UK, when you can not be bothered with the alleged DEI negativity you pursue here in the states that has a "Natalie Harp," and "Darline Graham" in the news. One setting in the White House without a security clearance, and the other loyal to Donald and admitting to knowing not a damn thing that qualifies her to be a senator on the level as her brother, respectively. Their qualifications: Donald wants them both.

And clearly you are okay with that. . . as long as they are in your 'tribe,' and not black and brown liberals. 

Let's cut the bullsh-t, and real talk!

Finally, what the hell is 'reparations' doing in this discussion? Who asked for reparations? Leap much?!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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7.1.13  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @7.1.10    3 months ago

Didn't think this one through did you? Take a step back and see if you can figure how your ridiculous your attempt at "gotcha" was. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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7.1.14  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @7.1.12    3 months ago
how 'thirsty' you are to 'pound' a dead professor. .

Have you heard today's song by Piker about Charlie Kirk?

 
 
 
CB
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7.1.15  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @7.1.14    3 months ago

No. Can not state that I have. :)  Okay, I just located the 'stupid' short version (I guess) of that 'song.' and, immediately I wondered why you asked me the question. . . then I realized you (playing at aboutism) wish to compare mocking people in death. I do not play that game. . .and wish people that do would knock it off! 

That said, it does not make it okay for anybody to mock anybody's death. None of us know enough about dying and death to think it some kind of 'game' worthy of ridicule. :( 

So next time,. . . do miss me with that! Let's be better humans and citizens than that! (The children are watching us all, you know!)

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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7.1.16  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  CB @7.1.9    3 months ago
So now I am the 'accountable' point of contact for a UK university?

Never thought a [x] [✘] adult wouldn't know what general questions are.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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7.1.17  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  CB @7.1.11    3 months ago
We know this is racial because

Because you have no real justifiable reason for the fraud taking place and backing it.  You need a scapegoat and calling it racism works for the dimwits among you.  MAGA had nothing to do with it.  You know it, I know it, we all fkng know it.  But it fits your moronic world view.

Jason Arday allegedly committed plagiarism and if found (after the schools investigation/s end) to be guilty. . . then, his actions and his possible suicide are on his head and heart. . . and I do not have to defend anything

You damn sure are defending something retarded like this was race related.  IMHO, if Araday were white, I pretty sure you'd be silent about the whole thing.

The fact that you can not find time to single out one white plagiarist conservative amongst the many found to be so in this country. . . 

So you're having problems doing it.  Not my responsibility to compensate for your inabilities.

BTW, you still have not mentioned if you have any documentation of what the detailed allegations about him.

If you can't pay attention then that's on you.  Again, not my responsibility to compensate for your inabilities.

 
 
 
CB
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7.1.18  CB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.1.16    3 months ago

Well, since I do not know what insult you penned, I will just say: "HOWDY"!     (Chuckles.)

 
 
 
CB
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7.1.19  CB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.1.17    3 months ago
Because you have no real justifiable reason for the fraud taking place and backing it.  You need a scapegoat and calling it racism works for the dimwits among you.  MAGA had nothing to do with it.  You know it, I know it, we all fkng know it.  But it fits your moronic world view.

Of course, MAGA supporters have EVERYTHING to do with it. Just look at y'all. . . running across England's borders (y'all claim to be 'America First'!) seeking to instigate problems for 'us' to fix and somehow discuss as if we had or could have anything to do with English universitites.

See Black and Brown. . . must launch attack!  Oh the desperation!

So utterly and remarkably stupid. . . MAGA supporters!

 
 
 
CB
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7.1.20  CB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.1.17    3 months ago
IMHO, if Araday were white, I pretty sure you'd be silent about the whole thing.

Since you brought up honesty. . . .  Are you being honest? Only you know for sure. IMHO, I do not think you are. I think you are being aggressive and off-putting as part of the routine.

More to the point, if Arday were a white person. . . I have observed MAGA supporters are not interested in pushing the story. Why because that would hit too close to acknowledging some white conservatives as posers. 

 
 
 
CB
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7.1.21  CB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.1.17    3 months ago
CB: The fact that you can not find time to single out one white plagiarist conservative amongst the many found to be so in this country. . . 

Jeremy: So you're having problems doing it.  Not my responsibility to compensate for your inabilities.

CB:  BTW, you still have not mentioned if you have any documentation of what the detailed allegations about him.

Jeremy: If you can't pay attention then that's on you.  Again, not my responsibility to compensate for your inabilities.

Yeah. Cheap talk is so 'small' and 'blustery'. . . well, at least it's free!

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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7.1.22  Trout Giggles  replied to  CB @7.1.20    3 months ago

If Araday was white we wouldn't be having this discussion

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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7.1.23  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  CB @7.1.20    3 months ago
Are you being honest?

Yes I am.  

I do not think you are.

Then it's a good thing I don't care what you think.  

 if Arday were a white person. . . I have observed MAGA supporters are not interested in pushing the story.

So you would have been silent about it.  Pretty racist if you ask me.

 
 
 
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7.1.24  Trout Giggles  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.1.17    3 months ago

 
 
 
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7.1.25  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Trout Giggles @7.1.24    3 months ago

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CB
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7.1.26  CB  replied to  Trout Giggles @7.1.22    3 months ago

And, MAGA supporters think I, we, don't know that!  They are so unremarkable as to think that if liberals do not attack them. . .for their arrogance and aggression . . that we are easy 'prey.' :)

 
 
 
CB
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7.1.27  CB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.1.23    3 months ago

Who asked you?! In fact, contrarian that MAGA supporters are - most of you do not respond to what is asked of the 'collective'. . . y'all know the whole 'running-silent thing' y'all do when ASKED. I, we, see it as y'all's "MO' and expect little to nothing of it.

 
 
 
CB
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7.1.28  CB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.1.25    3 months ago

How to do what exactly, Jeremy?! It's 'basic' research. Nothing difficult about it for those willing to cooperate in a proper discussion. I have seen no evidence that y'all have provided this site with the actual 'case' Cofnas delivered against Arday. So it seems MAGA supporters like to 'talking point' sh-t to death. . . research not essential to doing that! 

Indeed, I have SEEN and READ the 'official' complaint by Cofnas and can prove it. 

NOTE: I will extend a 'hand' in discussion to y'all if  ASKED. . . because I would like to show how balanced I can be on this matter. . . . It's up to y'all to reach out. . . . . 

 
 

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