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Star Trek: Picard - Episode 6 "The Impossible Box"

  
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Star Trek: Picard - Episode 6 "The Impossible Box"
 

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JEAN-LUC CONFRONTS HIS BORG NIGHTMARES IN THE MOST PIVOTAL STAR TREK: PICARD EPISODE YET


It's hard to believe, but it's been 30 years IRL since Jean-Luc Picard was captured by the Borg in Star Trek: The Next Generation 's "The Best of Both Worlds." And for the titular character of Star Trek: Picard , returning to a Borg cube is not something he's looking forward to.

As he puts it in the opening moments of the latest episode, "My last trip to a Borg cube was not voluntary." Although Jean-Luc worked through his Borg-ish trauma in numerous episodes of The Next Generation , one episode of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine , and the film Star Trek: First Contact , he's never had to set foot on a Borg space ship again. Until now.

In Episode 6 of  Star Trek: Picard  — "The Impossible Box" — Jean-Luc has to face his oldest nightmares in a very literal way. And in doing so, the series presents a turning point not only for the rest of Season 1 of  Picard  but also creates a pivotal moment for Jean-Luc that will change him perhaps more than any episode of  The Next Generation  ever could.

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Dig
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1  seeder  Dig    4 years ago

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Alas, Sakaria.

So, the Borg have Sakarian spatial trajectors now.

It's looking like Janeway really might have saved the Galaxy. If she hadn't thrown that wrench in their gears, they could literally be everywhere and unstoppable by now.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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1.1  sandy-2021492  replied to  Dig @1    4 years ago

I felt a little bit of guilty satisfaction that the Sikarians had been assimilated.  I found them to be arrogant.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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1.1.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  sandy-2021492 @1.1    4 years ago

I have to agree with you about that. They did seem arrogant. 

 
 
 
Dig
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1.1.2  seeder  Dig  replied to  sandy-2021492 @1.1    4 years ago

But they were friendly and hospitable. I kinda liked the girl that Kim met. 

I remember also liking that Tuvok broke the rules in that episode, thinking he could help the crew get home.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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1.1.3  sandy-2021492  replied to  Dig @1.1.2    4 years ago

They were friendly and hospitable, but dishonest.

 
 
 
Dig
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1.2  seeder  Dig  replied to  Dig @1    4 years ago
Alas, Sakaria.

I must be slipping. I just checked the beginning of that episode and it's Sikaris, not Sikaria. They do call them Sikarians, though, so I got it half-right in my post.

 
 
 
Freefaller
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1.2.1  Freefaller  replied to  Dig @1.2    4 years ago
I must be slipping.

Lol, hell I can't even remember the Sikarians and Voyager was my favourite of the ST series

 
 
 
Dig
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1.2.2  seeder  Dig  replied to  Freefaller @1.2.1    4 years ago

:)

It's from 'Prime Factors', the 9th or 10th episode of the first season (depending on how you count the two-part pilot episode).

 
 
 
Freefaller
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1.2.3  Freefaller  replied to  Dig @1.2.2    4 years ago
It's from 'Prime Factors', the 9th or 10th episode of the first season

That explains that, I was deployed for most of the first season.  I thought I had caught up on reruns, guess not.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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1.2.4  sandy-2021492  replied to  Freefaller @1.2.3    4 years ago

It's on Netflix and Prime.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2  Split Personality    4 years ago

Another good episode...

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.1  Split Personality  replied to  Split Personality @2    4 years ago

Next episode, Elnor's escape, lol.

 
 
 
Dig
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2.1.1  seeder  Dig  replied to  Split Personality @2.1    4 years ago
Next episode, Elnor's escape, lol.

No kidding. He brought a sword to a disruptor fight.

They need to include Seven's escape, too. They just just left her blazing away with a phaser rifle in both hands down on Freecloud last week.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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2.1.2  sandy-2021492  replied to  Dig @2.1.1    4 years ago
He brought a sword to a disruptor fight.

Ya know, I think that might just even things out a bit.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.3  TᵢG  replied to  sandy-2021492 @2.1.2    4 years ago

He is pretty quick with that weapon.    (And, of course, they are not going to bring the character in and then kill him off before he does anything.)

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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2.1.4  sandy-2021492  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.3    4 years ago
He is pretty quick with that weapon.

I could see him taking down quite a few in close quarters, where disruptor fire would risk one's comrades.

And, yeah, I'm sure his part in the story isn't over yet.

 
 
 
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2.1.5  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  sandy-2021492 @2.1.4    4 years ago

I love the fact that he uses traditional weapons and is very effective with them. I think that shows real skill. And you are right Sandy. It is safer for those in the crossfire. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.1.6  Split Personality  replied to  Dig @2.1.1    4 years ago

She did say that she had already contacted other Rangers for a "ride".

So she was expecting help.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.1.7  Split Personality  replied to  Dig @2.1.1    4 years ago
No kidding. He brought a sword to a disruptor fight.

Well he was obviously beamed down by Rios, so they could have beamed him back shortly there after,

like when they realized that Picard was no longer on the Artifact.

Damn, I hate waiting...

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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2.1.8  sandy-2021492  replied to  Split Personality @2.1.7    4 years ago

Well, he had La Sirena's computer beam him down without anybody else's knowledge.  I wonder if they still need a com badge to find his coordinates to beam him back?

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.1.9  Split Personality  replied to  sandy-2021492 @2.1.8    4 years ago

I am going to watch it again this afternoon, I did not see Picard with a com badge on, nor Elnor.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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2.1.10  sandy-2021492  replied to  Split Personality @2.1.9    4 years ago
I did not see Picard with a com badge on

Good catch.

 
 
 
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2.1.11  Split Personality  replied to  Split Personality @2.1.9    4 years ago

ok, yes, Picard has something on his left chest which he touches to reconnect with Raffi and direct her, Rios et al to Nepenthe.

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On the bridge, Elnor's shirt is "unadorned".  in the fight scene outside the Queen's cell, he is obviously wearing something that reflects light similar to Picard's or maybe it's just too dark in that scene.

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Dig
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2.1.12  seeder  Dig  replied to  sandy-2021492 @2.1.2    4 years ago
Ya know, I think that might just even things out a bit.

Lol. I don't know. I keep thinking of that Indiana Jones scene...

I wasn't very happy with the writing there. To me, it made no sense for him to stay behind to cover the escape, since the escape was instantaneous. All they had to do was walk through the trajector... all of them, Elnor included.

I was also wondering why they didn't just traject (?) back to the ship and high tail it out of there. Why separate the crew? I'm sure it advances the plot (the planet they went to might be where they find Riker and Troi), but it struck me as a bit silly at the time. Unless, of course, the trajector can only send you to a large planetary body or something.

 
 
 
Dig
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2.1.13  seeder  Dig  replied to  Split Personality @2.1.6    4 years ago
She did say that she had already contacted other Rangers for a "ride". So she was expecting help.

Yeah, I suppose. It still felt like they just left her hanging, though.

 
 
 
Dig
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2.1.14  seeder  Dig  replied to  Split Personality @2.1.11    4 years ago
Picard has something on his left chest

It's the ship's little mermaid emblem. :)

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La Sirena apparently means 'the siren' or 'the mermaid' in Spanish.

I missed him touching it like a communicator, but if you saw that then that must be what it is. I'll have to watch it again.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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2.1.15  sandy-2021492  replied to  Dig @2.1.12    4 years ago
To me, it made no sense for him to stay behind to cover the escape, since the escape was instantaneous. All they had to do was walk through the trajector... all of them, Elnor included.

I was wondering about that, too.

I was also wondering why they didn't just traject (?) back to the ship and high tail it out of there. Why separate the crew?

Maybe to put some distance between Soji and the Tal Shiar?  More than transporter range, I mean.

 
 
 
Dig
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2.1.16  seeder  Dig  replied to  sandy-2021492 @2.1.15    4 years ago
Maybe to put some distance between Soji and the Tal Shiar?  More than transporter range, I mean.

Maybe. They have shown quite a few Romulan ships going in and out of the Artifact that could have destroyed or captured La Sirena pretty quickly.

I want to know if Hugh will be able to hide the trajector's existence from the Romulans. It's probably technology nobody would want them to have. They may have to destroy the cube if the Romulans find out about it.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.1.17  Split Personality  replied to  Dig @2.1.16    4 years ago

Hugh also said the escape would be untraceable and the Romulans would be able to see that some one beamed up to the La Sirena.

Having seen no one beam up, they have little reason to attack or detain the La Sirena, right?

Still not sure why Elron chose to stay but he is definitely in at least one future episode.

 
 
 
Dig
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2.1.18  seeder  Dig  replied to  Split Personality @2.1.17    4 years ago
Hugh also said the escape would be untraceable and the Romulans would be able to see that some one beamed up to the La Sirena.

Hmm. I don't remember that, and I watched it again last night. I guess I need to watch it a third time.

Still not sure why Elron chose to stay but he is definitely in at least one future episode.

Yeah, I can't see them killing him off anytime soon, not after devoting an entire episode to his backstory with Picard, and then having him join the crew. He's main cast.

BTW, I see that you and I may share a similar problem. It's hard not to call him Elrond, isn't it? :)

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.1.19  Split Personality  replied to  Dig @2.1.18    4 years ago

A, you are correct, I have to correct it almost every time I write his name, lol.

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B, at 51:53, just after Elnor dipatches the three Romulan security team members, Hugh says,

"She's right.  We are almost at full power. Go.  I will try to keep them from tracing you."

Not definitive, but suggesting it was within the Sarkirian capabilities.

 
 
 
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3  Save Me Jebus    4 years ago

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Perrie Halpern R.A.
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3.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Save Me Jebus @3    4 years ago

Can you buy that? I'd love one!

 
 
 
Save Me Jebus
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3.1.1  Save Me Jebus  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.1    4 years ago

Haha, absolutely. Found it on a site called shop.startrek.com

 
 
 
Dig
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3.1.2  seeder  Dig  replied to  Save Me Jebus @3.1.1    4 years ago

Yeah, I noticed they already have quite a bit of Picard merch over there.

Didn't waste any time, did they? :)

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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4  sandy-2021492    4 years ago

So, Soji doesn't trust Narek, with very good reason, but she keeps having sex with him and tells him her deepest, darkest secrets?  I thought she was smarter than that.

I feel bad for Rios, when he finds out what Agnes has done.

I'm having trouble understanding why the other ex-Borgs look so terrible after reclamation, when Seven looked so good.  I mean, I know that a large part of Seven's reason for existence was sex appeal, but if her implants could be removed without unsightly scars, why not everyone else's?  Did Voyager's EMH develop some special technique he didn't share?

 
 
 
Freefaller
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4.1  Freefaller  replied to  sandy-2021492 @4    4 years ago
I thought she was smarter than that.

Well she is only 37 months old so maybe she's a little immature and naïve

I'm having trouble understanding why the other ex-Borgs look so terrible after reclamation

Yes that got me too I mean they're living way in the future with tech that borders on magic, synthetic humans, miraculous cures for most everything, yet the ex-Borg look like their just one step up from the zombies on The Walking Dead (except 7 and Hugh and I assume the one that died the other week)

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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4.1.1  sandy-2021492  replied to  Freefaller @4.1    4 years ago
Well she is only 37 months old so maybe she's a little immature and naïve

There is that.

yet the ex-Borg look like their just one step up from the zombies on The Walking Dead (except 7 and Hugh and I assume the one that died the other week)

And even Hugh has some pretty prominent scars, and speaks as if he has some lingering nerve damage on one side of his face.  He and Seven were both human, and both Borg for quite a while.  I'd expect them to heal about the same following reclamation.  And even with today's tech, we can make prosthetic eyes that match natural ones fairly well.

 
 
 
Dig
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4.2  seeder  Dig  replied to  sandy-2021492 @4    4 years ago
I'm having trouble understanding why the other ex-Borgs look so terrible after reclamation, when Seven looked so good.

I wasn't thinking about that at the time, but now that you've pointed it out I am.

They didn't even give that one a fake eye. She just had skin grafter over where it should be.

 
 
 
Dig
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4.2.1  seeder  Dig  replied to  Dig @4.2    4 years ago
She just had skin grafter over where it should be.

That should say grafted, and after a second viewing I think I should have said he, not she.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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4.2.2  sandy-2021492  replied to  Dig @4.2.1    4 years ago

I think that was a man, but I'm not quite sure.  A bit androgynous.

Of course, they may be reconstructing the site to accept a more natural-looking ocular implant.  But the Doctor achieved all of that fairly quickly with Seven, or an awful lot happened off-screen that we didn't know about.

 
 
 
Dig
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4.2.3  seeder  Dig  replied to  sandy-2021492 @4.2.2    4 years ago

Different Borg have different implants. Maybe Seven's was just easier? 

Of course, the real reason is... it was in the script. :)

They needed her transformed and stuffed into a catsuit by the end of 'Scorpion part 2', to give us that closing shot of the finished product standing there in the cargo bay.

Then again, Picard had an ocular implant in 'Best of Both Worlds part 2', and they had him all patched up by the end just one episode, too. I don't even know if they gave him a fake eye.

Either the doctors on the Artifact simply can't pull it off, or the producers don't really care about 'xB eye continuity' and decided to go for more gore (again).

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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5  Perrie Halpern R.A.    4 years ago

OK she seems smart, but we all know that sometimes smart women make dumb choices when it comes to men. 

As for the damage left behind on the reclaimed Borg, I think it was the extent of the implants. Also, I don't think they have the resources to fix items like missing eyes and limbs since this is a Romulan project. 

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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5.1  sandy-2021492  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5    4 years ago
As for the damage left behind on the reclaimed Borg, I think it was the extent of the implants.

Maybe.  But Seven had an ocular implant same as Hugh, and while his new eye is an entirely different color from his natural one, and he has scars, her new eye looks the same as her natural one, and she has no scars.

Of course, I assume the outward scars are meant to reflect the inner damage of having been assimilated.  The difference just bugs me a bit.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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6  Perrie Halpern R.A.    4 years ago
Of course, I assume the outward scars are meant to reflect the inner damage of having been assimilated.  The difference just bugs me a bit.

I think you nail it on the head. They are metaphorical as well as physical. And I also don't think that the Romulan's really care about them. They end up being basically slaves. 

 
 

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