Charlies Sykes Gives Dire Warning to Republicans About Trump
By: Michael Luciano (Mediaite)
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By Michael LucianoNov 11th, 2022, 2:57 am Twitter share button <?php // Post Body ?>
Conservative pundit Charlie Sykes threw cold water on the idea that Republicans are going to quietly move on from Donald Trump after the GOP's lackluster midterm results. According to him, the former president isn't going to let them.
Republicans expected to take the House by a wide margin, but appear headed for a slim majority. Meanwhile, the GOP's hopes of winning the Senate are nearly dashed.
During the Republican primaries, Trump endorsed a host of candidates who repeated his false claim the 2020 election was stolen from him. He also backed many first-time candidates and fringe figures who were ill-suited for the seats they were running for. This, many Republican luminaries have said, hobbled Republicans at the polls in Tuesday's midterm elections, where the GOP underperformed.
On Thursday, Trump had an epic meltdown and lashed out at the Murdoch media empire and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R), who cruised to reelection on Tuesday. DeSantis is seen as a star of the Republican Party and a potential 2024 presidential candidate.
After playing a montage of conservatives blaming Trump for the election fiasco, MSNBC host Stephanie Ruhle asked Sykes if the party is really done with Trump during Thursday's 11th Hour.
"Charlie, are you buying this?" Ruhle asked. "Are Republicans finally leaving him?"
"The Republicans bought the ticket and they're gonna take this ride again with Donald Trump," he answered. "He's signaling by his meltdown over down in Mar-a-Lago over the last 12 hours is that he's prepared to burn it all down. They may be done with him, but he is not done with them."
"What does that mean?" Ruhle asked.
"It basically means, 'I'm not going quietly. I'm going to announce next week,'" Sykes responded, mimicking a hypothetical Trump response while alluding to his "very big announcement" on Monday. "'I don't care who I hurt. If you do not nominate me, I will burn the house down. I will destroy and attack any other Republican that comes against me.'"
Ruhle retorted that conservative media outlets and the Republican donor class appears to be turning against Trump.
"But Charlie, they are turning on him," she said. "Conservative media is turning on him. The donor class is welcoming Ron DeSantis in. It's happening. So where exactly does the big fear of Donald Trump lie? He's a senior citizen living in his private home in Florida and New Jersey. He's unemployed. Who's he going to hurt?"
"Yes, well I have the scars to answer your question here because what he's done is he's got 30 to 40% of the Republican base that will go with him," Sykes replied. "And so let's say in some fantasy world that Ron DeSantis beats Donald Trump, that he actually has the guts to go up against Donald Trump and face down these threats of destruction. And he beats him, let's say 60-40. What is going to happen to that 40%? Does Donald Trump ever go away?"
Sykes cited past instances where some believed Republicans would distance themselves from Trump, but did not:
Look, this is a party that stuck with him through Charlottesville that stuck with him for that shambolic four years, that did not walk away when he was defeated, that didn't walk away after he orchestrated an insurrection at the Capitol.
And now because he has led them to this underperformance in the midterms, they're going to do something that they've been incapable of doing for the last six years? Donald Trump looks at the Republican establishment and says, "These are weak people. I have crushed them in the past. They will cave in to me. They have done it in the past and they will do it again."
That is what he's calculating.
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The Republicans will now reap what they sowed. They want to have enjoyed the sowing, but they dont want to go through the reaping. Not gonna work that way.
I'll believe MAGA is done with Trump when he holds a rally and the people in the crowd are throwing tomatoes at him, not the media.
"Yes, well I have the scars to answer your question here because what he's done is he's got 30 to 40% of the Republican base that will go with him"
There is no credible evidence of those numbers
Clearly many in the GoP will stick with Trump regardless of the fact that he is the only candidate for PotUS who attempted to steal a US presidential election through lying, abuse of authority, coercion, excessive litigation and subornation. They do not care that he is a pathological liar, malignant narcissist and that he has no respect for our constitution. They do not care that he is an embarrassment to the GoP and to the nation.
Do they care if he cannot secure partisan victories? Let's hope that this failure will do the trick. But if this is what it takes for the GoP to finally detach from Trump, it shows yet again the sickness of partisanship.
Republicans , as of today and seen in Republican post election comments, want to be able to have been accomplices to badly damaging our national self image ,over the course of many years of Trump, and then now say "we are washing our hands of him" and just walk away bathed in innocence.
Not gonna happen and we should not allow it to happen.
Almost all of the Republican politicians, donors, and conservative talking heads who are now saying "dump trump" were just 72 or 96 hours ago ready to call him a genius if his candidates had won. They have to pay a price for this. They dont get to just walk away as if nothing happened over the past 7 years.
Partisan opinion will always be with us....it's human nature. The detachment is beginning and will undoubtedly grow. Trump's bullying and acting out show his insecurity, frustration, and desperation. The air is escaping from his balloon of influence, and there is nothing he can do to stop it.
Of course partisanship will continue, but I am referring to the level of counterproductive, irrational partisanship that seems to be worsening each year.
Yeah, let's cross our fingers. His popularity continued almost no matter what he did so I am disinclined to expect rational reasoning from his supporters. We have individuals right here who still cannot bring themselves to acknowledge any wrongdoing by Trump in his Big Lie campaign or holding of TS/SCI documents.
The worst thing that could happen for dems in the 2024 presidential election is if the Republicans are done with Trump. Like the dems backing who the they thought would lose in the general election during the primaries I have a feeling they and the MSM are going to try and keep Donald front and center since him running is their best chance of winning. If the Republicans move on and go with someone like Ron I have a feeling Joe's best move is to not run and be embarrassed and the dems really have no one else to have run in his place. Maybe Manchin or some other centrist would have a shot but it seems the dems have moved too far left for that to happen.
DeSantis and the MAGA Republicans may have won Florida, but for the most part they were rejected by the rest of America. It won't be any different in 2024.
Don't be too sure of that, Dems got 2 more years to further fuck things up
The Democrats haven't fucked anything up. Besides, nothing the Democrats might do can possibly compete with the Republican Freak Show. The American people know better.
Interesting opinion but that is all it is, opinion. It seems like the Republican's may still win the house so I am not sure where your " rejected by the rest of America" comment comes from. Hopefully the democrats have something other than trying to convince Americans that all Republicans are MAGA republicans, especially if Donald is no longer in the picture.
Agree but IMO Republicans can further fuck up their chances by embracing Donald instead of moving on. Do it now so the impending tantrum can be done and forgotten by the next elections and Republicans can have a united front.
And the GOP will continue to prove that they are incapable of taking advantage of something as simple as staying out of the Dems way. Far as I can tel the GOP really is incapable of doing anything anymore. They can’t govern, haven’t been able to do that for going on 10+ years, and now they can’t even campaign effectively.
All they had to do this cycle was say “we aren’t the party in charge.” That’s it and they would have swept these races, the conditions could not have been better. But boy did they fuck that up by latching into that Trump micro penis.
Tea party, fell flat. MAGA falling flat.
I am just waiting for them to get over maga and have some new bullshit crusade...
Maybe, but the nation needs to rid itself of Trump and those like him and support people who at least attempt to do what is best for the people (rather than themselves) with some modicum of integrity.
As I alluded to I also believe the best thing for Republicans is to move away from Trump. Modicum of integrity is another thing all together, I think you have to move out of Washington to see much of that.
They should have done that after the Big Lie ensued or at least as soon as Trump left office.
They should have done that about six hundred Trump Fck ups ago. As stated, let em reap what they certainly did sew, 4 the sew er grate party their cult like mentality surely did embrace. As for myself, I will not be accepting their lame asz excuses. Far too little, and oh so FAR TOO LATE! Let the GOP DIE. They are deserved if no less, for being more on. And I do still accept and appreciate those finally coming to terms with reality, yet, that reality of their heads inactions, has caused too grate a damage for myself to ever fully forgive, and wrong as I might be, sorry, but gotta be me
You do not need to apologize. The GOP hangs its hat on Trump's head. They are perfectly willing to go on record with their 'agenda' for this nation and supporting Trump running amok when and where he can make republican in-roads and strives toward their success. They are UNAPOLOGETIC to you, me, or any other liberals about the plans they have/hold/store up for our shared destruction!
They can not say they are sorry about being MAGA, because that would be a lie. What they are sorry about is: Trump is faltering FASTER than they wanted or NEEDED him too. In the words of Donald: "Trump 'choked'"!
That is the only reason they want him 'gone.' But lookit: I hear a rumor that November 15 means a big announcement from Mara Lago ('land'). Rather or not the GOP wants to hear it or not!
The worst thing that could happen for dems in the 2024 presidential election is if the Republicans are done with Trump.
Not if Trump’s narcissism drives him to run as an independent. The Trumptards will follow him and the Republican base will be decimated.
The GoP is divided and is thus in a precarious position. The eventual nominee would have to appeal to both the GoP rational part of the base and the nutcase part of the base who support Trump.
I don’t think anyone can tear a nutcase from Trump’s tit. At least not enough of them to make a difference.
Maybe, not so sure. Not so sure he will do that and if he does I question how many people will actually vote for him if they realize voting for him would most definitely mean a dem president, even if they run Joe again.
Interesting comment from someone whose party leader can give a class on sneaking up and sniffing little girls and whose party just says "that is just Joe being Joe."
See, I can be ridiculous too.
Mr Fly, can you fly? Then do so, away.
I say let them all fall on their 'damn' political swords. They were/are contend to go around with Donald Trump while he was at his worst, let them go around with Donald on one of his 'beloved' court lawsuits. I feel pretty sure if anybody can sue the Republican Party for breach of a clause and make it 'hurt' its Donald!
Serves them right if it happens. They deserve each other!
And let it be known; they tried to do liberals 'dirty' at every turn. But this time the public/voters said: "'H' No!"
If the gop nominates Trump Biden wins 2nd term!
That would remind me of 2016 where the only person that Trump could beat would have been the person the dems nominated. In this case the only person Joe could beat would be Donald if they nominated him. But I doubt it would be a slam dunk if Joe keeps stumbling down the current path.
Nah, Hillary was the only one Trump could beat, sanders would have wasted him cuz he had the same populist message that trump had, except he isn’t a complete asshole.
The Dems foolishly nominated the only person in the field as unpopular as trump, and even then it was close.
Your explanations seem to be the general rule but I disagree. In 2016 there were things in play that we will never know. Should the 2016 election undergo a complete audit?
Audit all you want, the simple fact is that Hillary was seriously damaged goods and nominating her was the worst decision the Dems could have made. I said it at the time and will keep saying it now. Donald trump has never been popular, he only won because his opponent was equally unpopular.
That dumb decision by the Dems has come back to bite all of us in the ass big time by letting sh it bird nominate 3 partisan hacks to the SCOTUS.
election denial is alive and thriving on the left.
Pales in comparison to the problem of not accepting election results in the right. In fact there isn’t much support on the left for refusing to accept the results of 2016. No major figures on the left go on about it, and Hillary were to start spouting off it would fall on deaf ears. You trying to both sides this thing just doesn’t work.
Yeah, damaged goods by the right wing smear machine for decades. And at least she had the guts and the innocence to testify under oath four times in public and one of those occasions for 11 hours. The Trump whines and runs to the courts. So which is the better person? Which is the more patriotic person? Which is the more honest person?
The crazy claims Trump is making and his attacks on other Republicans certainly can be interpreted as insanity. Perhaps he'll self implode sooner than later.
So many are guilty of enabling this sick mind, because they didn’t (mind)
Well bless Charlie Sykes. The Trump is a liar, cheat and a fraud. His performance at Helsinki and his shakedown of Zelensky also indicates his loyalties lie elsewhere.
Duke "The Dumpster" Droese .
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