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GOP donor paid private school tuition of Thomas’s grandnephew, report says

  
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GOP donor paid private school tuition of Thomas’s grandnephew, report says
ProPublica said the exact total Crow paid for Martin’s education remains unclear. But if he paid for all four years at the two schools, the cost could have exceeded $150,000, based on public records of tuition rates at the schools, the publication reported.

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The same Texas billionaire who treated Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas to lavish vacations paid private boarding school tuition for Thomas’s grandnephew, a boy the justice has said he raised as a son, according to a new report which said Thomas did not disclose the payments.

ProPublica reported that Harlan Crow, a prominent Republican donor, paid tuition at Hidden Lake Academy, a boarding school in Georgia, as well as at Randolph-Macon Academy in Virginia, for Mark Martin, for whom Thomas had legal custody.

The publication cited a bank statement that showed Crow paid $6,200 in monthly tuition at Hidden Lake Academy in July 2009 and quoted Christopher Grimwood, a former administrator at the school, as saying that Crow “picked up the tab” for the entire time Martin was a student there, about a year. Grimwood also told ProPublica that Crow told him that he paid tuition as well for Martin at Randolph-Macon Academy, which Martin attended both before and after his time at Hidden Lake Academy.

ProPublica said the exact total Crow paid for Martin’s education remains unclear. But if he paid for all four years at the two schools, the cost could have exceeded $150,000, based on public records of tuition rates at the schools, the publication reported.

ProPublica said Thomas did not respond to questions about the tuition arrangement. Thomas did not immediately respond to a request for comment Thursday from The Washington Post. Neither Thomas nor the court’s public information office have responded to previous questions about Crow’s spending.

In a previous statement following a ProPublica report on Crow   paying for his vacations , Thomas said he and his wife considered Crow and his wife to be “among our dearest friends” and that he had been advised he didn’t have to disclose the couple’s hospitality, which included travel on a private jet and yacht.

In a statement Thursday, Mark Paoletta, a friend of Thomas, said that Crow’s assistance had been limited to two years, one at Randolph Macon, Crow’s alma mater, and one at Hidden Lake Academy.

Paoletta said the funds went directly to the school and that Thomas was not required to disclose them because the definition of a “dependent child” in the Ethics in Government Act does not include a great nephew.

“Justice Thomas and his wife devoted twelve years of their lives to taking in and caring for a beloved child — who was not their own — just as Justice Thomas’s grandparents had done for him,” Paoletta said. “They made many personal and financial sacrifices to do this. And along the way, their friends joined them in doing everything possible to give this child a future.”

Crow’s office issued a statement in which it did not dispute that Crow paid for Martin’s education.

“Harlan Crow has long been passionate about the importance of quality education and giving back to those less fortunate, especially at-risk youth," the statement said. “As part of his desire to perpetuate the American dream for all, and believing education is the great equalizer, he and his wife have supported many young Americans through scholarship and other programs at a variety of schools."

“It’s disappointing that those with partisan political interests would try to turn helping at-risk youth with tuition assistance into something nefarious or political,” the statement said.

The latest revelations come as Democrats are pushing for greater transparency from the Supreme Court and calling on the justices to set stronger rules for reporting and acting on potential conflicts of interest.

Federal ethics law requires top officials from all three branches of government, including Supreme Court justices, to file annual financial disclosure forms listing outside income and investments. A separate judicial code of conduct directs lower court judges to avoid “the appearance of impropriety in all activities.” In addition, a federal law allows for the filing and investigating of misconduct complaints against lower-court judges.

The nine justices do not have such a code, though court transparency advocates and some lawmakers have long pressed the high court to adopt one. The justices have   discussed but failed to reach consensus on a binding policy , The Washington Post reported this year, despite talks dating to at least 2019.

In addition to Crow paying for vacations for Thomas, ProPublica has previously reported that he purchased three properties in Savannah, Ga., from Thomas in 2014, including the single-story house where Thomas’s mother was living and two vacant lots nearby.

Thomas did not disclose the $133,363 real estate transaction on his financial disclosure forms. Crow told ProPublica that he wanted to preserve the first property as a museum dedicated to Thomas in the future, and said he had spent tens of thousands of dollars on improvements to the house “to preserve its long-term viability.”

Thomas has not spoken publicly about the purchase.

Justice Neil M. Gorsuch has also come under scrutiny following a Politico report that he did not disclose that   the chairman of a major law firm in 2017 bought a Colorado property   in which the justice held an interest.

The latest report comes just days after a   Senate hearing   on Supreme Court ethics in which even some Republican senators suggested the justices should be paying attention to public calls for a more robust and clear code of conduct.


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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    3 years ago

Thomas' reputation is shot. He took money from a conservative donor who undoubtedly wanted conservative outcomes from Supreme Court cases Thomas was voting on. 

 
 
 
George
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1.1  George  replied to  JohnRussell @1    3 years ago

And I guarantee Thomas doesn’t give a fuck what liberals care about his reputation. 

 
 
 
George
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1.1.2  George  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.1    3 years ago
Token Thomas is Harlan Crow's bought and paid for house boy.

That may be the most racist comment i have read here.

 
 
 
George
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1.1.5  George  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.3    3 years ago

Racism hurts everyone and it is never the truth.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.1.7  Sean Treacy  replied to  George @1.1.2    3 years ago

hat may be the most racist comment i have read here.

Anytime Thomas is brought up, it doesn't take long for the racists to start doing their thing.  

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.1.8  Right Down the Center  replied to  George @1.1.2    3 years ago

Two racist terms in an 11 word comment has to be good for a record

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.1.9  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.6    3 years ago
The truth is the truth

Yes, and the truth is you keep saying racist things.

 
 
 
George
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1.1.10  George  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.7    3 years ago

At least they aren't saying that he is too stupid to get an ID to vote simply based on skin color. so maybe there is still hope?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.1.11  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.6    3 years ago

Name calling is all some people have.

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.12  bugsy  replied to  George @1.1.2    3 years ago
That may be the most racist comment i have read here.

No, she has posted far worse.

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.13  bugsy  replied to  Right Down the Center @1.1.11    3 years ago

That and P, D and D

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.2  Ozzwald  replied to  JohnRussell @1    3 years ago
Thomas' reputation is shot.

Thomas' reputation was always that of a right wing tag along.  He does what he's told, nothing more.  That's why he never asked any questions while a justice, he'd already been told what his decision would be.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.2.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Ozzwald @1.2    3 years ago

Thank you for exposing how little you know about Thomas .  Stay away from trying to learn from racist memes, it make look you bad.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.2.2  Ozzwald  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.2.1    3 years ago
Thank you for exposing how little you know about Thomas .

And thank you for once again showing how hyper partisan you are.

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.2.4  bugsy  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.2.1    3 years ago
Stay away from trying to learn from racist memes, it make look you bad.

Good luck with that...

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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1.3  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  JohnRussell @1    3 years ago

Who cares? Crowe is a private citizen and anything Thomas did or received was not illegal. The left just needs to deal with it and let it go. They should take closer looks at some other their own.

 
 
 
George
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1.3.1  George  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.3    3 years ago
Who cares?

Thomas follows the rules as they are written and the left whines like little bitches. must be a day that ends in Y.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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1.3.2  Tacos!  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.3    3 years ago
Who cares?

The whole country should. If George Soros was spending hundreds of thousands - maybe millions - of dollars on gifts for a liberal justice, I think you’d probably care a great deal.

Crowe is a private citizen

That changes things how, exactly?

and anything Thomas did or received was not illegal.

From everything we have heard so far, Thomas may well be guilty of activity that would constitute unacceptable violations of ethics for every judge in the country not sitting in the Supreme Court. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.3.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  Tacos! @1.3.2    3 years ago
f George Soros was spending hundreds of thousands - maybe millions - of dollars on gifts for a liberal justice, I think you’d probably care a great deal.

I know I would. I'd be calling for heads to roll

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.3.5  Trout Giggles  replied to  Tessylo @1.3.4    3 years ago

I bet republican DAs get funding from the Koch boys

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.3.6  Right Down the Center  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.3    3 years ago
The left just needs to deal with it and let it go.

While I agree I must admit it is pretty amusing watching them get their panties in a bunch because they can't get the vast majority of Americans to share in their outrage.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.3.8  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @1.3.7    3 years ago
We aren't the ones who always have our panties in a wad . . .

If the panties fit...........

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.4  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @1    3 years ago

How does it feel to be so easily manipulated?  You should wonder who is funding all these hit coordinated hit pieces on conservative justices that are nothing but loud noises to anyone who looks into them.

 
 
 
George
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1.4.1  George  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.4    3 years ago

A leftist billionaire is funding 100% of E Jean Carrolls lawsuit, but nothing to see here.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.4.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.4    3 years ago

I don't care who the justices are, they should not be accepting monetary gifts from rich ideologues. 

Imagine if the mayor of a city accepted money from an individual  to pay his kids school tuition. Everyone would be calling that mayor corrupt, but Supreme Court justices are supposed to be immune from scrutiny? LOL

 
 
 
George
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1.4.3  George  replied to  JohnRussell @1.4.2    3 years ago

It wasn't his kid, you know that right?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.4.4  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @1.4.2    3 years ago

Thomas did nothing wrong. This is manufactured (literally) outrage because Thomas didn’t report something he was under no obligation to report.  All part of the progressives’ partisan attempt to undermine the Supreme Court

All this kids Progressives claiming outrage because a justice followed the law and not their feelings. 

meanwhile, the same corruption crowd is silent over sotomayor. It’s all partisan hypocrisy. Nothing more.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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1.4.5  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.4.4    3 years ago

Exactly!

 
 
 
Tacos!
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1.4.6  Tacos!  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.4    3 years ago
coordinated hit pieces on conservative justices

Do you understand that neither Thomas nor Crow deny that these gifts were given and received? They also don’t deny that they weren’t reported. How does reporting those facts constitute a hit piece?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.4.7  Trout Giggles  replied to  Tacos! @1.4.6    3 years ago

It's too much truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.4.9  Sean Treacy  replied to  Tacos! @1.4.6    3 years ago
. How does reporting those facts constitute a hit piece?

You don't understand how deliberately manipulating an audience to create a false perception constitutes a hit piece? 

He did nothing wrong, yet this reporting and the other similar similar stories   about  conservative justices that have released the last few weeks, insinuate they did, causing dummies to  think there's some sort of ethical crises requiring Congressional action. 

hey also don’t deny that they weren’t reported

The horror! He didn't report what wasn't required. 

 
 
 
JBB
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1.4.10  JBB  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.4.9    3 years ago

Unethical is still wrong even if it is legal...

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.4.11  Sean Treacy  replied to  JBB @1.4.10    3 years ago

What's unethical about what he did? 

Sotomayor took millions from Random House and sat in judgment on a case they were a defendant. Where's your outrage?  Where's the coordinated hit pieces about her "ethics", which include other debatable actions? 

 
 
 
JBB
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1.4.12  JBB  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.4.11    3 years ago

The same place as outrage over Jerred Kushner taking billions from the Saudis!

The same outrage as Ivanka and Don Jr getting marketing deal with the Chinese!

What is legal for Trump's lazy kids and the wives of our Supreme Court Justices is equally legal for Hunter! Unethical is not necessarily illegal, for the privileged!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.4.13  Sean Treacy  replied to  JBB @1.4.12    3 years ago
What is legal for Trump's lazy kids

Lol.   They support their kids and don't survive on handouts from liberal mega-donors, but they are "lazy" and Hunter is not.  

Is it unethical for Joe Biden to allow his son to take millions from a mega donor?  Somehow its unethical for a billionaire with no business before the Court help Clarence Thomas support an underprivileged kid attend school,  but you are okay with a liberal donor  giving millions to Joe Biden's  actual son?

 equally legal for Hunter!

Except Hunter is being investigated for breaking the law, not  being "unethical".  do you not understand that? 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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1.5  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @1    3 years ago
Thomas' reputation is shot.

Problem is no one cares. They should, but they don’t. Congress will do nothing.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2  Trout Giggles    3 years ago

And the hits just keep on coming!

 
 
 
George
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3  George    3 years ago

John Wagner is obviously a racist who is only attacking Thomas because he is a black conservative.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  George @3    3 years ago

Huh?

 
 
 
Ronin2
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3.1.1  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1    3 years ago

White writer attacking a black Supreme Court Justice.

Whitey needs to stay in his lane!

Don't like leftist racist dog whistling tactics being used by those on the right?

Oh, the hypocrisy.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Ronin2 @3.1.1    3 years ago

Huh?

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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3.1.3  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Ronin2 @3.1.1    3 years ago

Amen.

 
 
 
George
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3.1.4  George  replied to  Ronin2 @3.1.1    3 years ago

It's amazing the reaction when the mirror is held up. 

 
 
 
Ronin2
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3.1.5  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.2    3 years ago

Writer is white.

Thomas is black.

Writer is racist.

End of story.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.6  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Ronin2 @3.1.5    3 years ago

I suppose you think you are being clever. 

Lets all yawn at you in unison. 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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3.2  Ozzwald  replied to  George @3    3 years ago

John Wagner is obviously a racist who is only attacking Thomas because he is a black conservative.

And has nothing to do with the rapidly growing amount of evidence showing his corruption?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.2.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ozzwald @3.2    3 years ago

That was a dumb thing to say

not you...the one you were replying to

 
 
 
George
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3.2.2  George  replied to  Ozzwald @3.2    3 years ago

Feinstein had a chinese communist spy as her driver for years.......The lefts response......

Swalwell slept with a chinese spy and allowed her to put aides in his office.....The lefts response.........

The Thomas's take in a child and a friend helps them by paying for the childs education........the lefts response is, this is criminal, he should be impeached, he has no credibility!!!!! 

He followed the rules exactly as they are written.

Can the mainstream left be bigger hypocrites?

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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3.2.4  Ozzwald  replied to  George @3.2.2    3 years ago
Feinstein had a chinese communist spy as her driver for years

So what?  The spy learned where her favorite Starbucks is.

Swalwell slept with a chinese spy and allowed her to put aides in his office

Did he know she was a spy?  No?  So what?

The Thomas's take in a child and a friend helps them by paying for the childs education

Is that ALL his friend did?  Did he pay more?  Did he buy Thomas' mother's house and allow her to continue to live there, rent free, while investing thousands of dollars in Thomas' mother's house?  Did he spend millions of dollars on the Thomas's?

And if that all was okay with you, why did Thomas neglect to document and notify people about it as he was required to do?  And why didn't Thomas recuse himself when his "friend" had business before SCOTUS?

He followed the rules exactly as they are written.

Are you now claiming that Thomas properly reported those millions of dollars of gifts that he was given by someone who had business in front of SCOTUS?  THOSE were part of the rules.

 
 
 
George
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3.2.5  George  replied to  Ozzwald @3.2.4    3 years ago

All he learned driving her around for years is where her favorite starbucks is? I would ask if you really believe that but i'm afraid that you do based on your comments.

There were multiple benefit to Swalwell. please describe what Thomas provided to Crow, which cases did Crow have before the court,

Democrats = defense for Chinese spys. amazing.

 
 
 
George
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3.2.8  George  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.7    3 years ago

Hypocrisy?

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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3.2.10  Ozzwald  replied to  George @3.2.5    3 years ago
All he learned driving her around for years is where her favorite starbucks is?

If he learned more, please provide the evidence for such.

please describe what Thomas provided to Crow, which cases did Crow have before the court

Supreme Court Did Review Case Involving Harlan Crow—Contradicting Clarence Thomas’s Claim

Clarence Thomas’s Billionaire Friend Did Have Business Before the Supreme Court

Company with ties to GOP megadonor and longtime friend of Justice Thomas had business before Supreme Court

5 seconds on Google would have answered your question without me having to hold your hand.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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3.2.11  Ozzwald  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.7    3 years ago

Why are Democrats so worried about SCOTUS but have zero problems with the Biden Family influence-peddling?

Because the SCOTUS concerns have been shown as facts, whereas the Biden influence peddling consists of another right winger's wet dream.  Just like Benghazi and anything related to the Durham investigation, among others.

 
 
 
George
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3.2.12  George  replied to  Ozzwald @3.2.10    3 years ago
If he learned more, please provide the evidence for such.

Thanks for proving my point beyond a doubt.

 
 
 
George
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3.2.13  George  replied to  Ozzwald @3.2.10    3 years ago

It appears i need to hold your hand. 

In 2004, the Supreme Court declined to hear an appeal filed by an architecture firm that claimed a company that was part of Crow’s real estate portfolio allowed other architects to use its copyrighted drawings, according to Bloomberg. 

In January 2005, the Supreme Court declined to hear Womack+Hampton Architects v. Metric Holdings Limited

Do you know what declined means? it means Thomas didn't hear a case involving his friend, Just more bullshit by those who lack honesty and driving an agenda.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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3.2.15  Ozzwald  replied to  George @3.2.12    3 years ago
Thanks for proving my point beyond a doubt.

And thanks for failing to prove your point.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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3.2.16  Ozzwald  replied to  George @3.2.13    3 years ago
In 2004, the Supreme Court declined to hear an appeal filed by an architecture firm that claimed a company that was part of Crow’s real estate portfolio allowed other architects to use its copyrighted drawings, according to Bloomberg.

Who declined to hear it?  Oh yeah, the Supreme Court and Clarence Thomas chose to decline it.  Who won since they declined?  Could it have been Crow's architectural firm?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4  Sean Treacy    3 years ago

Guess how much sotomayor took in from random house while failing to recuse from their cases? Start with nine figures and keep going….

and progressives pretend to be upset by this, where Thomas did nothing wrong .

 
 
 
Kavika
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5  Kavika     3 years ago

On Monday,  Politico reported that U.S. Supreme Court Justice Amy Coney Barrett  has received a $2 million advance for her forthcoming book about how judges are not meant to bring their personal feelings into their rulings, according to three publishing industry sources. On  Tuesday, Sentinel, the conservative imprint of Penguin Random House  granting the contract (disclosure: Penguin is publishing my upcoming book), confirmed this news. The $2 million advance was—according to one source—“an eye-raising amount.” As Politico noted, it is likely the highest advance paid to a justice since major book deals scored by Clarence Thomas and Sandra Day O’Connor. (Sonia Sotomayor  was paid a $1.175 million advance for her autobiography ,  My Beloved World,  which went on to become a bestseller.* At that time, Sotomayor was arguably the most prominent person of Latinx heritage in America).
 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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5.2  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Kavika @5    3 years ago

Either way, there was nothing they did that was illegal, unethical, or against the rules.

 
 
 
Kavika
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5.2.1  Kavika   replied to  Ed-NavDoc @5.2    3 years ago

The point was that most of the Justices have had book deals, since it seems that Sotomayor was brought up without the additional info that many of the others did the same. 

The second part of that is that when the Justices received ''gifts'' they reported them, Justice Thomas had a 20 memory lapse on a great many ''gifts''.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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5.2.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Kavika @5.2.1    3 years ago

He forgot? Maybe he should be screened for Alzheimer's

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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5.2.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  Kavika @5.2.1    3 years ago
he point was that most of the Justices have had book deals, since it seems that Sotomayor was brought up without the additional info that many of the others did the same.

So you didn't get the point. She took the  millions and did not recuse herself when Random House was involved.  

That's a much more direct conflict of interest than anything Thomas allegedly did.  

 
 
 
Kavika
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5.2.4  Kavika   replied to  Sean Treacy @5.2.3    3 years ago
So you didn't get the point. She took the  millions and did not recuse herself when Random House was involved.  

It is impossible to get your point when nothing that I posted neither supported nor condemned Sotomayor or any of the other justices mentioned and that included Thomas. It simply pointed out that a number of justices have had books and reaped the rewards from them.

What I did say separate from that is that for 20 years Thomas did not report some gifts that he received.

 
 
 
George
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5.2.6  George  replied to  Kavika @5.2.4    3 years ago
It simply pointed out that a number of justices have had books and reaped the rewards from them.

How many of them had book deals with companies that they sat on cases for like Sotomayer? 

 
 
 
George
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5.2.7  George  replied to  Tessylo @5.2.5    3 years ago

He doesn't have too. PERIOD!!!! he did not receive them.

 
 
 
Kavika
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5.2.10  Kavika   replied to  Tessylo @5.2.5    3 years ago

None that I'm aware of.

 
 
 
Kavika
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5.2.11  Kavika   replied to  George @5.2.6    3 years ago
How many of them had book deals with companies that they sat on cases for like Sotomayer? 

Perhaps you could research that and let us know your findings. 

Chief Justice Roberts believes that justices should not recuse themselves from cases because they cannot be replaced by another justice to hear the case, but many have recused themselves and many haven't. 

Here is a list of the last 10 or so years of justices that heard cases that they had an involvement in. 

https://fixthecourt.com/2023/05/recent-times-justice-failed-recuse-despite-clear-conflict-interest/#:~:text=11.,the%20petition%20by%20the%20appellant.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5.2.12  Right Down the Center  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.2.2    3 years ago
Maybe he should be screened for Alzheimer's

Maybe he should get in line right behind Biden

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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5.2.13  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Kavika @5.2.1    3 years ago

As far as I am aware, and I could be wrong, the rules regarding Justice Thomas's gifts were changed this year after said gifts and vacation were given or occurred. So, ethically or legally, he did nothing wrong.

 
 
 
Kavika
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5.2.14  Kavika   replied to  Ed-NavDoc @5.2.13    3 years ago

You are wrong on that and it's complicated and this article spells it out quite clearly.

Justice Thomas is not only being criticized for accepting the gifts, but also for failing to disclose them.
A separate federal law requires federal employees and elected officials to file disclosure reports that include information about   gifts received . The law   explicitly states   that it covers Supreme Court justices.
As with the gift law, the disclosure law leaves administering these requirements up to ethics offices,   specifically mentioning   the Judicial Conference as the body responsible for overseeing judges. As with the gift law, the Judicial Conference has a detailed set of  regulations  judges are supposed to follow. There’s debate about how closely Thomas followed these regulations; he’s  claimed  that he followed an older, less strict version and will follow the more strict version in the future.
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Ed-NavDoc
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5.2.15  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Kavika @5.2.14    3 years ago

My thanks for the correction.

 
 
 
Kavika
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5.2.18  Kavika   replied to  Ed-NavDoc @5.2.15    3 years ago

To be clear on my position, I want a ''code of ethics'' for SCOTUS and I want each justice to abide by it regardless of political party. I am against Sotomayor and Gorsuch and all other justices that do not recuse themselves when they have an interest in the case. 

I cannot see SCOTUS being free of any type of oversite or rules, it is, IMO bizarre as hell. We are talking about the highest court in the land and they can pretty much make up their own rules is pure bullshit.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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6  Right Down the Center    3 years ago

Hmm, Gorsuch, Roberts and Thomas.  Interesting that the only justices undergoing such scrutiny are conservative leaning ones.  While I agree with a more robust and clear code of conduct for the justices I am positive trashing them with bogus shit is the best way to have them be part of drafting anything.  Especially since all these committee members seem to like to hear themselves talk to get a sound bite.  All this going after justices is only going to make the justices close ranks since I am sure they all know eventually they will all have a turn getting trashed eventually.  In fact it seems that all 9 have closed ranks in the response from Roberts to the latest clown show committee.

I guess since packing the court seems not to be the next thing is to try and remove a justice or 2 in order to bend the court to your liking.  

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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6.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Right Down the Center @6    3 years ago
I guess since packing the court seems not to be the next thing is to try and remove a justice or 2 in order to bend the court to your liking.

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Trout Giggles
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6.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.1    3 years ago

didn't trmp pack the court? He appointed 3 judges in his 4 years

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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6.1.4  Right Down the Center  replied to  Trout Giggles @6.1.1    3 years ago
didn't trmp pack the court? He appointed 3 judges in his 4 years

The total number of justices did not change.  Democrats suggested changing the total number to 13 so Joe could choose enough justices to shift the balance.  That is what court packing is.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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6.1.6  Right Down the Center  replied to  Texan1211 @6.1.5    3 years ago

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Trout Giggles
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6.1.8  Trout Giggles  replied to  Tessylo @6.1.3    3 years ago

hmmm....Kavanaugh did, Barrett did...I'm not sure about Gorsuch

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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7  Buzz of the Orient    3 years ago

Where there's smoke, there's fire. 

 
 

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