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‘Have We All Lost Our Minds?’ Country Songwriter Blasts Wokeness With Simple Question 

  
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C ountry songwriter Wynn Varble is one of the most prolific artists in the industry, working alongside Garth Brooks, Trace Adkins, and Brad Paisley.

In a new song titled “I’m Just Sayin’,” Varble argues “wokeness” is destroying America from within. The song was performed by rising star Austin Moody.

The lyrics read: “They call themselves enlightened but cancel those who don’t agree / I wish all these folks who claim they’re woke would just go back to sleep.”

The song continues: “I’m just sayin’ Have we all lost our minds? / I’m just sayin’ where do we draw the line / I know y’all think it takes balls to be singing what I’m singing / But I’m just singing what you’re thinking”

The term “woke” has become increasingly common in recent years in reference to radical left-wing social activism.

Varble said, “Nashville in the last couple of decades, it’s been turning a little more to the left.”

“I don’t have a problem with any of these people — I mean we’re all Americans, right?” he added.

“But when they force their stuff on us — that’s the whole thing. It’s a very small percentage of the population, these woke folks — they try to tell you who to love, how to feel. It don’t feel right,” Varble said.

The origins of wokeness can be traced back to the African American community, where it was used as a way to describe people who were aware of and actively opposed to racism. In recent years, however, the term has been adopted by a wider range of people, including white progressives and liberals.

“Wokeness” has been widely criticized by Americans in recent years who believe it is an overt form of political correctness that is stifling free speech and basic American freedoms.

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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    3 years ago

The goomer pictured is the songwriter. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @1    3 years ago

Goomer?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.1    3 years ago

Its a granny Clampett word. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.1.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    3 years ago
Its a granny Clampett word. 

So a Hollywood term.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.3  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.1.2    3 years ago

Hollywood hillbilly. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.1.4  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.3    3 years ago

I doubt that those writers were from Appalachia. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.5  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.1.4    3 years ago

Granny called someone a goomer a few times when she chased them around her house with a hickory switch in her hand. 

Dont think too deeply about it. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
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1.1.6  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.5    3 years ago

Never heard of a goomer.    That must a citified term.    

I have heard of gomers.    A term that applies nicely to the triggered wokesters this song is about.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.3  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @1    3 years ago
goomer

Are you a goomerphobe?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  seeder  JohnRussell    3 years ago

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Ronin2
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3  Ronin2    3 years ago

Leftist mighty mental midget intolerance has given rise to a whole new country trend.

Congrats.

Country music still sucks; but when it tweaks leftists it is a little more tolerable.

 
 
 
CB
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4  CB    3 years ago

He says: "I believe in live and let live."  But, the party he is highly probably associated with does not believe in the motto. Why do such people project ignorance of their own intentions for this country! It's 'insane.'

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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5  Drinker of the Wry    3 years ago
It's 'insane.

Getting so worked up over a song that you will likely never hear is perhaps insane.

 
 
 
CB
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5.1  CB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @5    3 years ago

Likely never hear. . . huh?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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5.1.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @5.1    3 years ago

Do you normally listen to CW?

 
 
 
CB
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5.1.2  CB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @5.1.1    3 years ago

Huh? You've lost me with that one.

 
 
 
CB
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5.1.4  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.3    3 years ago

I listen to CW when I want to. Normally or 'hit and miss' - that is not the point anyway. As for this song, is there more to it than is in the posted article above? If so, let me know as I just heard that song.

 
 
 
CB
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5.1.6  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.5    3 years ago

Hearing what?

 
 
 
CB
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5.1.8  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.7    3 years ago

Duh. The song is in the article. What's slim about hearing that? You are testing my patience with this line of bs.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @5    3 years ago

Why wont anyone hear it? 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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5.2.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2    3 years ago

How often do you listen to CW?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.2.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @5.2.1    3 years ago

I dont follow it, but I know of a lot of the old school country artists. 

 
 
 
CB
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5.2.3  CB  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2.2    3 years ago

I have always heard through 'channels' country music in the background of my life. It was with my years of going 'cross-country' driving that I learned appreciation for the art of country music. As there are parts of the middle of this country where you can mostly hear CW station to station. The story-telling is the thing and one has to appreciate the heart of the writers and singers to do jus that. 

Two beautiful songs you posted above. Loved hearing them (again). I am sure I must have heard them at some point in a long life. Good strong voices. 

 
 
 
mocowgirl
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5.2.4  mocowgirl  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2.2    3 years ago
I dont follow it, but I know of a lot of the old school country artists. 
As a teen, I preferred Creedence Clearwater to George Jones. I don't like music that is depressing.
In my 20s, I still enjoyed CCR, The Eagles, etc., but also enjoyed much of 80s/90s country.  I rarely listen to anything popular these days of any genre - not because I wouldn't like any of it, but because I am usually either reading or listening to news or videos about whatever topic has captured my interest that day.
This song has always been one of my favorites because it reminds me that sometimes "winning" is really losing.  Bobby Bare was the original artist, but I love this version also.
 
 
 
CB
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6  CB    3 years ago
“I don’t have a problem with any of these people — I mean we’re all Americans, right?” he added. “But when they force their stuff on us — that’s the whole thing. It’s a very small percentage of the population, these woke folks — they try to tell you who to love, how to feel. It don’t feel right,” Varble said

I would like to know what the ___ this person is complaining about! I am fed up with these inverse statements from people who "infect" us all with their continuous self-righteous bs. Conservative, by definition, does not agree to change, per se. That we have some. . .singer. . . remarking on how we should not advance (change the 'old' for something better and more diverse). . .I'm guessing, because his life and his 'tribe' is happy the way life was is simply ridiculous.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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6.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  CB @6    3 years ago

Aren't they always trying to tell us who to love (conservatives)?

 
 
 
CB
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6.2.2  CB  replied to  Trout Giggles @6.2    3 years ago

I mean just look at conservatives. They stand in front of podiums lecturing (day in and night out) about freedom like it is a marketing plan. And everyday (day in and night out) it is CONSERVATIVES who hinder true freedom in the world by their constant, moronic, and dirty tactics in creating culture wars and somebody "new" to mock, hate, and snatch away freedom! 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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6.2.3  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @6.2.2    3 years ago

Freedom is just another word for nothin' left to lose
Nothin', don't mean nothin' hon' if it ain't free, no-no
And feelin' good was easy, Lord, when he sang the blues
You know feelin' good was good enough for me
Good enough for me and my Bobby McGee

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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6.2.4  Jack_TX  replied to  Trout Giggles @6.2    3 years ago
Aren't they always trying to tell us who to love (conservatives)?

Are they?  

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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6.2.5  Jack_TX  replied to  CB @6.2.2    3 years ago
it is CONSERVATIVES who hinder true freedom in the world

How are they hindering your freedom, CB?

 
 
 
CB
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6.2.7  CB  replied to  Jack_TX @6.2.5    3 years ago

Did you watch the video at comment 8 yet? My whole life has been UPROOTED AND ALTERED based on what I have come to understand is the conservative worldview that persist in making 'demons' out of a homosexual lifestyle!

BTW, did you watch the video at comment 8? If so: interpret it. If not, why not?!

 
 
 
CB
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6.2.8  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @6.2.6    3 years ago

I won't indulge you, Texan. Get informed and come back afterwards. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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6.2.9  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @6.2.8    3 years ago

Communication is normally a two way street, but your demands for answers while refusing to answer to others has turned it into a one way thoroughfare. 

 
 
 
CB
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6.2.10  CB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @6.2.9    3 years ago

Communication falling on deaf ears is a waste.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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6.2.11  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @6.2.10    3 years ago

How would you know?

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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6.3  Jack_TX  replied to  CB @6    3 years ago
I'm guessing

Why?  Why would you guess?

Also, why do you feel the need to vilify this person?  

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
6.3.1  CB  replied to  Jack_TX @6.3    3 years ago

Really, is that all you've got right now? I expect better.  And why don't you tell me what it is to be vilified? And before you do, watch the video at comment 8 and let me know your thoughts about it.

One more thing, chopping up sentences 'shorts' the message. So why would an 'educated' person do that?

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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6.3.2  Jack_TX  replied to  CB @6.3.1    3 years ago
Really, is that all you've got right now?

A request for you to explain why you feel the need to invent reasons to hate this man who has harmed you in exactly zero ways?

Yeah.  I'm curious.

I expect better.

Get used to disappointment.

And why don't you tell me what it is to be vilified?

People who have actually harmed you or who seek to harm you?  Seems like a good place to start.

And before you do, watch the video at comment 8 and let me know your thoughts about it.

I'll pass, thanks.  

One more thing, chopping up sentences 'shorts' the message. So why would an 'educated' person do that?

You're spewing nonsense so fast that I wouldn't want to miss out on so much of it.

The irony of you complaining about that is hilarious given your own habit of issuing four posts in reply to a single one.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
6.3.3  CB  replied to  Jack_TX @6.3.2    3 years ago

Now that is just a comment full of bluster. And surprise: A conservative PASSED on an opportunity to see the perspective of the other side. How NARROW and LIMITED such a view must be that it can't stand a little stretching. 

By the way, over the course of my long life, I can't count all the heterosexual movies, films, commercials, real-life encounters I have interacted with and will continue to do so. But, you can't be bothered to watch ONE video! What do some conservatives fear, that it will be MIND-ALTERING? One video?

Out of being immersed in heterosexual culture for x decades: It has not made me heterosexual. So some conservatives won't be made homosexual by simply watching ONE video on the subject. So "open up"! 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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6.3.4  Jack_TX  replied to  CB @6.3.3    3 years ago
And surprise: A conservative PASSED on an opportunity to see the perspective of the other side. How NARROW and LIMITED such a view must be that it can't stand a little stretching. 

I've asked you for exactly such a perspective.  Are you so incapable of describing it that you would rather I get it from somebody else?   

By the way, over the course of my long life, I can't count all the heterosexual movies, films, commercials, real-life encounters I have interacted with and will continue to do so. But, you can't be bothered to watch ONE video! What do some conservatives fear, that it will be MIND-ALTERING? One video?

I don't care about his perspective.  I've asked for yours.  Here is your chance.  Make your point.

I also don't generally watch videos.  They're a slow and tedious way to communicate.  I can read much faster.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
6.3.5  CB  replied to  Jack_TX @6.3.4    3 years ago

An image, er "moving pictures" is worth a thousand words. Consider it my "perspective" that I want you to ingest/study/receive/be moved by. Now, can you bring yourself to do it this?!  I care about the video.  That should mean something even if you spurn it (and me) afterwards!

As for slow and tedious activities . . try reading some of the books I read about conservatism. Especially the Christian Right ones! But, I will not digress farther about such books here. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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7  Greg Jones    3 years ago

“woke” equals radical left-wing social activism."

 
 
 
CB
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7.1  CB  replied to  Greg Jones @7    3 years ago

So you are: Not woke. Are you of the opinion that nothing need change in this country ever? Tell me what is the political view of social justice that you hold?

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
8  CB    3 years ago

Tyler Childers - In Your Love (Official Video)

Is this the type of country music that some conservatives would label: Woke?!

The storytelling is beautiful and wholesome, I think.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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8.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @8    3 years ago

Sounds more like a folk ballad to me but the genres overlap.     He is able to combine joyful and sad in the same song.  Good storytelling and good music.

 
 
 
CB
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8.1.1  CB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @8.1    3 years ago

Thank you. In your opinion, is the songwriter and singer: Woke?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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8.1.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @8.1.1    3 years ago

Define woke.

 
 
 
CB
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8.1.3  CB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @8.1.2    3 years ago

Not playing the delay game with you, Drinker. Shit or get off the pot!

 
 
 
Sparty On
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8.1.4  Sparty On  replied to  CB @8.1.3    3 years ago

Why?    Can’t you define woke?    

If not, what’s the problem?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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8.1.5  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @8.1.3    3 years ago
Not playing the delay game with you,

I’m not asking you but rather the definition game. The definition of "woke" changes depending on who you ask.  I can’t answer you without knowing your definition.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
8.1.6  CB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @8.1.5    3 years ago

Then, drop it and move on. As a conservative, writing on an article about a CW songwriter and singer singing: "I wish all these folks who claim they’re woke would just go back to sleep.” - you should know or have a proportional idea of what you are assenting to before you write. If you don't - consider getting a point of view before you write (back)!

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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8.1.7  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @8.1.6    3 years ago
As a conservative, writing on an article about a CW songwriter and singer singing: "I wish all these folks who claim they’re woke would just go back to sleep.” - you should know or have a proportional idea

I have no more idea of how you define the word than I do on your resistance to tell us.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
8.1.8  CB  replied to  Sparty On @8.1.4    3 years ago

You can define it for your fellow conservative since you are here, or is this another 256 ?

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Guide
8.1.9  Sparty On  replied to  CB @8.1.8    3 years ago

No, don’t be a pussy.    Define it.

Man up for change

Do it

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
8.1.10  CB  replied to  Sparty On @8.1.9    3 years ago

You define it with the time and opportunity that got you to this article, Man!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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9  seeder  JohnRussell    3 years ago

I think that certain elements in country music think they have stumbled on to a gold mine. First the small town song and now this one. 

Whats next?

800       ?

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
9.1  CB  replied to  JohnRussell @9    3 years ago

Okay, what is a country western 'star' without the boots showing? We need to see what she is wearing on her feet!  /s

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Guide
10  Sparty On    3 years ago

The triggered are not going to like how many Americans agree with the sentiments this song describes.   Won’t like it at all.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
10.2  CB  replied to  Sparty On @10    3 years ago

Well it would be nice to know if you are or are not triggered by 8! 

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Guide
10.2.1  Sparty On  replied to  CB @10.2    3 years ago

No …… eights and exclamation points don’t bother me at all.   In fact, I use them all the time to communicate using the kings English.

Back on topic though, does the song described in this article trigger you?

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
10.2.2  CB  replied to  Sparty On @10.2.1    3 years ago

Meh. 8 is a comment with a video . . . above. 

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
10.2.4  CB  replied to  CB @10.2.2    3 years ago

I knew it. MAGA can't cope with this reality (comment 8). All conservatives are about is their ideas of freedom - not true freedom. This silence is proof of it. I'm just sayin. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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10.2.5  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @10.2.4    3 years ago

You are quick to jump to conclusions that support your prejudices.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
10.2.6  CB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @10.2.5    3 years ago

You know little to nothing about my prejudices, anyway. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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10.2.8  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @10.2.6    3 years ago

I only know what you write here.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
10.2.9  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @10.2.7    3 years ago

I speak out about what conservatives are really doing and are up to, when they do it, and the direction the republican party and libertarians are heading. If you think that is prejudice - prove me wrong: Stop messing around in the lives of liberals, stop supporting and paying the legal fees of "the devil himself - Trump,"  stop mocking, demonizing, and waging "unholy" culture wars over other people's lifestyles and interests which have nothing to do with conservative freedom. Remember true freedom?

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Professor Quiet
10.2.10  Jack_TX  replied to  Texan1211 @10.2.3    3 years ago
It's always those damn 2's and semi-colons which trigger me.

2;

2;

2;

2;

2;

Mwuahahahahahah!

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Guide
10.2.13  Sparty On  replied to  CB @10.2.2    3 years ago

Thx for the clarification.    No, post #8 does not trigger me.     Not in the least.

Now, are you going to answer my question for a change pace or keep playing your usual sophomoric redirect, deflect and projection games?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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10.2.14  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @10.2    3 years ago

Maybe Jason Aldean could add a trigger warning at the beginning of the video to assuage hurt feelings.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
10.2.15  CB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @10.2.8    3 years ago

Ditto.

 
 
 
George
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10.2.16  George  replied to  Sparty On @10.2.13    3 years ago

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CB
Professor Guide
10.2.17  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @10.2.12    3 years ago

Your very 'essence' on these articles is to STIFLE and STALL OUT decent, fair, and engaging discussions, in my opinion. As a conservative if you don't know what you stand for then perhaps you should give up and stop pretending to be somebody you have no clue about their policy prescriptions for the country!

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
10.2.18  CB  replied to  Sparty On @10.2.13    3 years ago
does the song described in this article trigger you?

The song is a conservative perspective about matters that really do not concern conservatives. Why does this CW songwriter care if liberals are 'woke' or not? Can't he exist in conservative spaces without stirring around in liberal perspectives? I'm just sayin'! 

What about the video at comment 8 do you find relatable to life as you know it?

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
10.2.19  CB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @10.2.14    3 years ago

Aldean? Is that an insertion into discussion?

 
 
 
mocowgirl
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10.2.20  mocowgirl  replied to  CB @10.2.19    3 years ago
Aldean? Is that an insertion into discussion?

Is the outrage against a country song off-topic on a seed dedicated to discussing outrage against a country song?  Wouldn't it save time just to lump them all together?

However, not everyone understands what is outrageous about Aldean's song.  Does that make the reviewer a conservative because he doesn't agree with the liberal narrative?

Some good discussion in the comments on the video.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Guide
10.2.21  Sparty On  replied to  CB @10.2.18    3 years ago

Answer my question and I’ll answer yours.

No more freebies for you.

No more …. No more

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
10.2.23  CB  replied to  mocowgirl @10.2.20    3 years ago

I am not sure why you address this to me. I have not entered into any discussion about urban violence or protests or this Aldean song. It is my first time hearing it, because you put it right in my face. 

What do you want me to say about it. You tell me, because I have no opinion as to why there is outrage over it. I have more of an opinion about concert-goers throwing objects on stage at performers (even that is remote for me as I don't got to concerts in decades). 

That said, he is a CW artist and he loves his small town. But, for that matter I live in a small city too and we don't have protest here. Why? Because we don't go around and neither to our police officers (thankfully) make headlines in the national media because of arrests gone bad/poorly/deadly. 

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
10.2.24  CB  replied to  Sparty On @10.2.21    3 years ago

Use some discernment and you will realize that your question has been answered already. As for the video: Watch it or don't watch it. Comment on it or don't comment on it. I already have discerned what I will about some conservatives and the homosexual lifestyle.

Incidentally, it is evidence by the sheer volume of the comments issuing from some conservatives that y'all are TRIGGERED. I wonder why. Wait. I know.

Some conservatives are triggered by the word, "woke" because it implies change is underway and of course change frightens conservatives, even if its glacial in appearing. Too emotional.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
10.2.25  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @10.2.22    3 years ago

Wow. Look at you trying to guide the narrative (off-course). There is nothing hard about conservatives and conservatism, Texan. It's boring, really. But, there is all that political power that keeps flowing back and forth during election cycles that keeps some conservatives. . .relevant and in need of being dealt with politically.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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11  Right Down the Center    3 years ago

 “They call themselves enlightened but cancel those who don’t agree / I wish all these folks who claim they’re woke would just go back to sleep.”

Brilliant 

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
11.1  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @11    3 years ago

Cancel culture wouldn't be happening if some conservatives who do not want to see the world advance at all beyond their political self-interests would honor inclusivity, equality, and diversity. So, who is actually "Sleep"?  I'll answer that: Conservatives. Wake the "f" up!

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Professor Quiet
11.1.1  Jack_TX  replied to  CB @11.1    3 years ago
Cancel culture wouldn't be happening if some conservatives

Sounds like blaming the victim.

who do not want to see the world advance at all beyond their political self-interests would honor inclusivity, equality, and diversity.

You mean they prefer their political interests to your political interests.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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11.1.3  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @11.1    3 years ago

The Culture Wars date back to the sixties, was accelerated during the Reagan years and is obviously entrenched now.  There are multiple causes:

  • Wars are about who has power
  • Future Shock, the perception that too much change in too little time is underway 
  • The perception of a loss in national identity and goals for tribal ones
  • Decline of the middle class and Elite’s disdain for rural, small town and working class whites

At the same time Identity Politics was growing on the Left.  In 2004 Obama said:  

“There’s not a black America and white America and Latino America and Asian America; there’s the United States of America.”

The Dems have run away from that.

 
 
 
CB
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11.1.4  CB  replied to  Jack_TX @11.1.1    3 years ago

Do some conservatives accept inclusivity, equality/equity, and diversity? Or, will some conservatives simply write inane, insincere comments all day and night long?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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11.1.5  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @11.1.4    3 years ago
Do some conservatives accept inclusivity, equality/equity, and diversity?

Equality and  equity are two totally different things.  It is the "enlightened" that are trying to conflate the two and canceling anyone that doesn't bow to their change.  The vast majority of  conservatives embrace inclusivity, equality, and diversity.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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11.1.6  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @11.1    3 years ago
Cancel culture wouldn't be happening if some conservatives who do not want to see the world advance at all beyond their political self-interests would honor inclusivity, equality, and diversity.

Oh, so it is their fault and they are forcing you to try and cancel them?  The problem is not everyone thinks like you therefore they should be canceled.  Got it.

That is exactly what the songwriter was trying to say.  

 
 
 
CB
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11.1.7  CB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @11.1.3    3 years ago

You have got to be kidding! Life and its content if obviously not a soundbite you can cherry-pick to the narrowest of 'taste.'

 
 
 
CB
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11.1.8  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @11.1.6    3 years ago

The songwriter should confine himself to conservative spaces and in doing so he won't be cancelled by conservatives. The 'echo-effect' will be doubly rewarding.

See how that works?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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11.1.9  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @11.1.8    3 years ago

The song writer should do whatever he wants to do, not what you or anyone else thinks he should do. If you like his song listen to it. If you don't like it change the station.

See how that works?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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11.1.10  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @11.1.8    3 years ago
The songwriter should confine himself to conservative spaces and in doing so he won't be cancelled by conservatives.

Isn’t Tyler selling out his concerts?

 
 
 
CB
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11.1.11  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @11.1.5    3 years ago

That is a some conservative damn lie. Conservative want a heterosexual society with girls and women 'issuing' children they don't want and can not afford. All just because some conservatives say it is the 'order' of life for them and 'us.' That is not freedom. That is not diversity. That is not inclusion!

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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11.1.12  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @11.1.11    3 years ago
Order of life

Where do you find these curious phrases?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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11.1.13  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @11.1.11    3 years ago

No offense but you seem to be one of the last people that should be commenting about what the vast majority of conservatives want. But there is definitely a place for you on msnbc. They also like to tell everyone what conservatives want without actually talking to them or understanding them.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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11.1.14  Right Down the Center  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @11.1.12    3 years ago

I kinda liked "issuing children". 

 
 
 
mocowgirl
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11.1.16  mocowgirl  replied to  Right Down the Center @11.1.14    3 years ago
I kinda liked "issuing children".

I am not acquainted with this terminology when it comes to human reproduction.  What is "issuing children"?  

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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11.1.17  Right Down the Center  replied to  mocowgirl @11.1.16    3 years ago

You would have to ask the person that issued the phrase. I liked it because it doesn't make any sense, which sums up many progressives pretty well. It is the baffle them with bullshit approach. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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11.1.20  Right Down the Center  replied to  Texan1211 @11.1.15    3 years ago

Yep. How they think they can learn anything of substance about conservatives from such a far left source is beyond me. Unless of course the last thing they want to do is learn anything 

 
 
 
Gsquared
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11.1.21  Gsquared  replied to  mocowgirl @11.1.16    3 years ago

While "issuing children" is not an actual or correct phrase, the word "issue" with regard to lineal descendants is used in genealogy and the law.

See link:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Issue_(genealogy) 

 
 
 
mocowgirl
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11.1.23  mocowgirl  replied to  Right Down the Center @11.1.17    3 years ago
I liked it because it doesn't make any sense,

I actually googled it to see if it should have!  LOL!

 
 
 
mocowgirl
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11.1.24  mocowgirl  replied to  Texan1211 @11.1.18    3 years ago
That would seem logical at least............so that's probably wrong!

I find that logic rarely enters a discussion based on emotion.

 
 
 
Gsquared
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11.1.26  Gsquared  replied to  Texan1211 @11.1.22    3 years ago

It was a fanciful use of language.  It makes things more interesting, and really, there is nothing wrong with a bit of creativity.  

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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11.1.28  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Gsquared @11.1.26    3 years ago

Yes, if the commenter is willing to define his terms when asked, if not it’s just confusing and not interesting.

 
 
 
CB
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11.1.29  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @11.1.9    3 years ago

Nobody does "whatever he wants to do" in conservative "town" - I thought you knew that. Why? Homogeneity of the conservative kind. Anyway, what would we be doing here if didn't have anything to discuss?  Do you see how that works?

 
 
 
CB
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11.1.30  CB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @11.1.12    3 years ago

Get out of the bubble of your consciousness stream more often.  The world is out there!

 
 
 
CB
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11.1.31  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @11.1.13    3 years ago

I am willing to bet I am better versed in conservative conscious thought than you are in liberal thought. So any time you're ready, let's get it on!  I might know more about conservatism than some conservatives do!

 
 
 
CB
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11.1.32  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @11.1.22    3 years ago

I could give a flying "f" about what some conservatives understand, Texan. I could write, A, B, C, and a, b, c. And, some conservatives would pick its peaks and valleys for fleas, lice, and other assorted reasons to be a pest.

 
 
 
CB
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11.1.33  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @11.1.14    3 years ago

Told you, not a diverse thought between some conservatives. Just one conservative hymnal of homogenous bs to sing from all by itself. 

 
 
 
CB
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11.1.34  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @11.1.17    3 years ago

I like "dazzle them with bs approach" more. Oh, I'm sorry is that you meant to write?  Aww, it's okay. I understood what you meant perfectly (anyway). And by the way, has this thread 'fallen' into meta?!

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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11.1.35  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @11.1.30    3 years ago
Get out of the bubble of your consciousness stream more often.

Did you mean a stream of consciousness?  Do you know what either means?

  The world is out there

Indeed, I’ve lived outside of the US for 10 years and have been to 24 countries besides the US.  How about you.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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11.1.36  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @11.1.34    3 years ago
"dazzle them with bs approach"

Who do you attribute the quotes to?

 
 
 
CB
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11.1.37  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @11.1.20    3 years ago

I would bother to explain myself to some conservatives and that other one, but what good would it do? I will just take my time and write like I wish. Don't like it. . .so what? There is nothing hard to understand about mouthing the words: "liberty," "freedom," "small government."  They are only jingoistic utterances 'deployed' alongside of a big-oversized waving flag intent on manipulation of the emotions of people in. . ."small towns."

 
 
 
CB
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11.1.38  CB  replied to  Gsquared @11.1.21    3 years ago

I know how to use "issue" in the proper termage of old slave timey vernacular. But I did not. Why? Because of the audience I am writing to. These some conservatives play childish mocking games about any damn thing which distracts from the topic at hand. One of them is here asking me to define "woke" on an article they freely entered with "woke" in its title and its theme. Just bs. 

So I wrote what I wrote and some conservatives can deal with it or not. It's all the same to me. They don't intend to give me any benefit of doubt, approval, or praise. And I don't come here looking for it from them, either.

 
 
 
CB
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11.1.39  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @11.1.22    3 years ago

Wow. There is that manipulation I was mentioning coming out. 

 
 
 
CB
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11.1.40  CB  replied to  Gsquared @11.1.26    3 years ago

Thanks Gquared. It's par for the course around here. Some people will play dumb when it suits them and others will "startle" me when they address me from out of the 'background.' It strikes me that their emotions boil over and so they 'erupt.' And then the empty commenting begins in earnest.

To be fair, I could have written it differently. I even thought of doing so. But, why? Some conservatives and me apparently NEVER going to see eye to eye on issues of policy or conservatism.  And if we do by chance agree on one issue or another, oh well, it is what it is in that 'moment.'

 
 
 
CB
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11.1.41  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @11.1.27    3 years ago

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CB
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11.1.42  CB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @11.1.28    3 years ago

Oh brother. This is too rich. (I won't be explaining what I mean by "rich" either.)  jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
CB
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11.1.43  CB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @11.1.35    3 years ago

What is your point? That read like an emotional reaction, but we know some conservatives don't have such 'moments.  /s

 
 
 
GregTx
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11.1.44  GregTx  replied to  CB @11.1.40    3 years ago

512

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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11.1.45  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @11.1.43    3 years ago
What is your point? 

To let you know that I’m very aware that “the world is out there”.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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11.1.46  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @11.1.42    3 years ago

Exactly.

 
 
 
CB
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11.1.49  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @11.1.48    3 years ago

I know. I know.  /s

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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11.1.50  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @11.1.7    3 years ago
You have got to be kidding!

No, I respectfully gave you my perspective.

Life and its content if obviously not a soundbite you can cherry-pick to the narrowest of 'taste.'

On the context of my comment 11.1.3 I have no idea what you mean by this.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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11.1.51  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @11.1.49    3 years ago
I know. I know.  /s

You got that one right, your knowing is bound to be just sarcasm.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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11.1.52  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @11.1.38    3 years ago
I know how to use "issue" in the proper termage of old slave timey vernacular.

What does this even mean?  Did you make up the word termage or is it a West Coast thing?

 
 
 
Veronica
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12  Veronica    3 years ago
'Have We All Lost Our Minds?’

No, but I think many of us have lost our humanity and empathy.

 
 
 
CB
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12.1  CB  replied to  Veronica @12    3 years ago

These. . . some conservatives. . .come here daily on an never-ending quest to blow 'smoke up our 'wazoos' - while not altering their 'programming' not even the tiniest bit. No compromise is possible. They are irreconcilable, inconsiderate, and uncompromising. It really is disgusting!

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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12.1.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @12.1    3 years ago
They are irreconcilable, inconsiderate, and uncompromising. It really is disgusting!

Amazingly, you seem blind to the same behaviors on the progressives on NT.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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12.1.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @12.1    3 years ago
No compromise is possible.

I have a feeling your new definition of compromise is "Give in and realize I am right".  The normal definition is both sides get some of what they want but not everything they want.  I don't see any progressives here actually giving an inch.

The only thing accomplished in today's political climate is a feeling the other side must be beaten into submission and totally surrender.  If you can't see both sides doing it then you have your eyes closed.

 
 
 
CB
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12.1.3  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @12.1.2    3 years ago

Dude, one side wants inclusion and diversity. The other side wants total compromise over the hearts and minds, or at least the will of this society. It is clear that a 'straight,' white, and fundamentalist Christian homogeneous nation is what conservatives are striving for and mocking, demonizing, and being vindictive to others when it seems to be losing ground. Cut the bs. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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12.1.4  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @12.1.3    3 years ago

That is a whole lot of bullshit but you have shown how closed your eyes are. I thank you for helping to prove my point.

 
 
 
CB
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12.1.5  CB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @12.1.1    3 years ago

I am not blind to anything. But, I am not party to it either, get it? If something I write does not relate to you; don't stand in the way of it and you won't get 'struck'!

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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12.1.6  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @12.1.5    3 years ago

I am not blind to anything

Many comments suggest otherwise.

 
 
 
CB
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12.1.8  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @12.1.4    3 years ago

So you say. And no need to thank me. Clarifying what conservatives stand for and against is what I do around here. :)

 
 
 
CB
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12.1.9  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @12.1.7    3 years ago
Diversity can be obtained naturally.

Laughable! Some conservative gatekeepers (including the Christian Right which are notably absent from NT - one could ask why there 'utterances' is not present on this site of conservatives) by definition stand in the way of progress, diversity, and inclusion. Why? Because of fear of their fellow citizens whom they have known of all their lives, but refuse to socially engage with except with taunts, sneers, boos, violence, and political prescriptions that keep freedoms suppressed.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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12.1.10  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @12.1.8    3 years ago
Clarifying what conservatives stand for and against is what I do around here. 

You seem unable to even clarify what you stand for or how you define the words that you use.

 
 
 
CB
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12.1.12  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @12.1.11    3 years ago

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Jack_TX
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12.1.13  Jack_TX  replied to  CB @12.1.3    3 years ago

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CB
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13  CB    3 years ago

Back later. I got work to do! :)

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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14  seeder  JohnRussell    3 years ago

I think everyone has had their say here. Locking this article early tomorrow morning. 

 
 
 
CB
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14.1  CB  replied to  JohnRussell @14    3 years ago

I agree. There is plenty more that can be added, but it won't get addressed by distractors who can't take a damn thing as serious as it should be. Thank you for bringing some 'balance' back at this point.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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14.1.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @14.1    3 years ago
who can't take a damn thing as serious as it should be.

Which of your comments here were meant to be serious?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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14.1.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @14.1.1    3 years ago

Comment 13 would be my guess. The others, not so much.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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14.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @14    3 years ago

Good idea. There is enough word salad being tossed to have a huge picnic. 

 
 

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