S E E D E D C O N T E N T
The number of people killed has reached 500 following the alleged air strike on a hospital - according to the Gaza health ministry spokesman.
Meanwhile, an Israeli army spokesperson says the cause of the incident is not known and the army is looking into the details.
The BBC is working to verify details of the incident.
We will wait for confirmation.
If this is true then Israel has its eye for an eye.
I think the international community needs to unite and force negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians who reject Hamas.
That is where it usually goes and is just what Hamas wants. It didn't take you long John.
The media will play too:
If this hospital bombing is true than Israel has revenged the victims of the massacre.
They can put an end to Hamas influence without killing thousands of more people.
Negotiations should begin between Israel and West Bank leaders who accept Israels right to exist. Hamas will be left out and their guilty parties from the massacre can be assassinated one by one.
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Hamas made the claim that Israel did it deliberately. Israel claimed that this was caused by a Hamas misfire.
The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said an initial investigation shows the explosion in Gaza’s hospital was caused by a failed Hamas rocket launch, i24NEWS reported.
Maybe there is a drone taking pictures that will provide the truth.
And that’s how hamas wins..
Nazis would still be in charge of Germany with this mindset.
"Negotiations should begin between Israel and West Bank leaders who accept Israels right to exist. Hamas will be left out and their guilty parties from the massacre can be assassinated one by one."
The only "leaders" the Hamas have right now are the Hamas terrorists and Israel has set out to eradicate them. This time they won't stop until that job is done. After all, Hamas started this war for no good reason, so any blame for the resulting consequences belongs to them.
It's called "collateral damage"....civilians killed and injured in times of war....and it's been going on since antiquity.
Hamas regularly sequesters in public buildings to ensure that adequate numbers of the innocents are killed and maimed for propaganda purposes. Quite often their explanations are accepted as fact by Jew hating leftists and brain dead uninformed sympathizers. Instead of building shelters for its citizens, has squandered all the US funds it receives on rockets, other weapons, and tunnels into Israel territory, instead of building bomb shelters and infrastructure for water, fuel, power, and food reserves.
Although that's your personal opinion, I certainly do agree with it.
And what if it is a mis fire or intentional fire from Hamas?
Revenge for Oct 7th was certainly understandable. I think revenge has been achieved at this point. Get rid of Hamas without killing thousands of innocent people.
Unfortunately, it's going to be very difficult to do that.
Those numbers come from Hamas so should not be trusted on that alone. Even so, it's just a number. It doesn't break those deaths down by civilian or combatant.
Yes, but it isn't their motive. Ending Hamas' ability to function is.
Lastly, it's hard to imagine Israel intentionally targeting a hospital. It would be like saying Israel thought about what would put them in the worst possible light and then decided "Yeah. Let's do that! That would be a great idea!"
from the BBC
Scenes of chaos at hospital where hundreds were sheltering
Tom Bateman
Middle East correspondent, in Jerusalem
Pictures emerging from Al Ahli Arab hospital show scenes of chaos - with bloodied and maimed casualties being rushed out on stretchers in the darkness.
Bodies and wrecked vehicles can be seen lying in the rubble strewn street outside.
Unconfirmed videos appeared to show a huge explosion shortly beforehand.
Hundreds of displaced people had been sheltering in a hall on the hospital grounds, according to locals.
Civil defence officials say the explosion was the result of an Israeli airstrike and that hundreds are trapped in the rubble. The Israeli military says it is looking into the incident.
And when it turns out to be a hamas rocket that misfired, Israel will still be at fault
Yep cuz Israel had the audacity to fight back. Otherwise hamas wouldn't have to be shooting at them..................../S
Greg Jones just established that with a link to a TownHall article, except that it was more likely to be an Islamic Jihad rocket.
The Israeli military has given some pretty convincing evidence that it was Islamic Jihad. There's even a video of what is purported to be the failed rocket malfunctioning in the sky, followed a few seconds later by an explosion on the ground. Also, an intercepted phone call by two terrorists discussing what had just happened and they identified it as Islamic Jihad as well. According to the briefing, about 30% of these home made rockets misfire and never make it out of Gaza. Israel says they've tracked over four hundred that failed in flight and landed in Gaza, some of which apparently killed or injured Palestinians.
The whole thing made no sense to me from the beginning. The last thing Israel would want is the optics of being seen to have bombed a hospital. They would gain nothing from it and lose a lot of much needed support and sympathy. Also, I'm pretty skeptical of the reported number of deaths from the incident, considering how small the damaged area was but I suppose one could cram 500 people into that parking lot, but it would be awfully full. Just about shoulder to shoulder. Further, removing 500 bodies would take some time, yet it seemed they vanished nearly instantly or I think we'd be seeing video of them. Hamas would make sure of it.
Israeli military intellience reports that this was a failed rocket launch by the terrorist organization, Islamic Jihad.
Generally, large loss of life would be caused by an air strike, not a terrorist rocket, but the incident occurred in a courtyard of the hospital where a lot of people were gathered in a small space.
Of course, The democrat/hamas contingent in congress already publicly blamed Israel before any examination of evidence occurred and good luck getting to acknowledge the truth.
The amount of antisemitism on our college campuses, some cities and some members of congress that is being displayed is both surprising and appalling.
I'm not that surprised.
Let the truth be as plain as the suffering being inflicted.
We, meaning all of us, will either learn from this and work towards resolution…or we will not and thus resolve to its inevitability.
Tale as old as time.
You got that right!
This story has more ifs than a bad Kipling poem.
An iffy proposition, for sure.
Appears to be a Hamas fuck up.
Maybe JohnRussell will post that CREDIBLE ARTICLE as a seed now. It says just what I was thinking was the most believable theory.
On second thought, that is such a good article I think I'm going to post it. It was a great find by you, Greg. I'll bet that it's going to become more evident that it is the truth.
With more evidence emerging in the light of day, it appears that the hospital wasn't struck at all.
The Muslim World Is on Fire (townhall.com)
UPDATE: Shocking New Evidence Shows Massive Hamas and Media Disinformation Campaign on 'Bombed' Hospital – RedState
WOW JUST WOW..........Thanks Greg!!
Evening...one of the reasons why most normal and intelligent people and countries tend to wait for the true facts to emerge before making mass hysterical statements and running amok in the streets...
Naturally and it is already a given the Palestinians will be in their usual mass hysteria, screaming and demonstrating in the streets..and you can pick the countries straight off who will follow like a pack of sheep... nothing new there...
To be honest I really wouldn't put it past Hamas to blow up their own people when things are not turning out the way they thought...it is one way they get the attention and publicity they desperately seek...more deaths equals more dollars...
Hell it is and always will be he said, she said.. especially in war...and you hope in this day and age someone, somewhere would actually capture on film what really went on...
I guess we can only wait and see...
Same here. I have a sneaking suspicion that they blew that place up themselves to pin on the Israelis to gain support and sympathy from everyone else. Like I said in another seed, life is cheap to them
What I can't wrap my head around is these guys will do absolutely anything. Lie, cheat, steal, murder, torture, massacre, all without a second thought and with obvious delight. And somehow they believe their god approves of it all, no matter how foul.
And what I can't get MY head around is that so many people support them and protest in favour of them. I certainly fear for the safety of the hostages.
On the home front here in the US it is being reported that several CEO’s have demanded Harvard release the names of the students who signed the petition supporting the terrorists. They will be blackballed and unable to gain employment at any of their companies. And a billionaire who has been a major contributor to Penn state has said if they don’t curb the bullshit he will stop all contributions.
the support for terrorists and losers by people living good, in safety, far away from the problem is illogical.
It was already reported that Hamas had planted an IED in the road to the south and blew up some civilians fleeing to the south, in order to discourage people from fleeing because it is to their advantage that the population stays put to either prevent Israel from targeting the north, or else use the many deaths that would result for their publicity benefit as you suggested. The fact that they use human shields is evidence to anyone who not only has a brain but is capable of using it that they don't give a damn about the lives of the civilians. Obviously there are playing the same game with their own mishap at the hospital.
This video appears to show the misfired rocket.
THANK YOU for sharing that.......................
Evening draky...hmmm tend to take our news service at times with a grain of salt...
They often just rehash what the flavour of the month is from overseas news services...
I will believe it when we actually see footage of what really went on..have seen several "videos" but even then it is still very much up in the air and in conclusive...
Makes it worse when it is taken at night as people are trying to put two and two together and still coming up with five...
I would hope more info will come out and hopefully that will give proof of what went on and who did what...
True. It's why I said "appears to show...". Can't really trust the media these days, it seems. I think, though, that mention of Geoconfirmed having checked and confirmed the vid gives it some weight. But, who knows, in the end.
After just a few hours, it’s clear that this is a media scandal. Hamas immediately claimed an Israeli rocket destroyed a hospital and killed 500 people. The MSM in America immediately reported it with that framing. Democratic congressmen used media reports to attack Israel. Foreign leaders canceled meetings. Thousands protested outside American and Jewish embassies worldwide as tensions reached a boiling point.
now, with daylight photos, we know the reality. An Islamic Jihad rocket fired at Israel fell short and landed in a hospital parking lot. The hospital isn’t destroyed. It’s impossible to believe casualties approach anywhere near what Hamas immediately claimed.
Yet the damage was done. The useful idiots in the media, sympathetic to Hamas, did exactly what Hamas wanted and changed the narrative to Israeli “atrocities”
Hamas and Palestine started this war and they will pay the price. I have no sympathy at all for them.