A Family Affair In A Terrible Election Cycle
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Charlie Kirk
@charliekirk11
Imagine being in President Trump’s shoes for a moment on J6 as you get word the Capitol is getting swarmed…
- You were considered a near lock to be a two-term president in February of 2020 -
You delivered one of the best economies ever seen for 3 years before China unleashed a lab grown virus on the planet
- You warned states repeatedly of the dangers of mass mail-in voting, but Democrats forced the measures through anyways -
You watched as election officials caved to COVID fear mongering to relax election integrity measures violating election laws and state Constitutions -
You witness 51 “intelligence officials” collude with Big Tech to censor a bombshell story about a laptop that directly implicated Joe Biden -
You campaign tirelessly to sold-out arenas crisscrossing the country with historic enthusiasm - Your opponent is a two-time failed candidate, disqualified for plagiarism, who barely survived the primary, and then barely left his basement during the campaign -
You win 74,222,958 votes, more than any other presidential candidate has ever won -
You learn that somehow 159,633,396 people voted, the largest turnout in U.S. history, breaking the previous record by 20 million votes — the first time more than 140 million people voted and the highest % turnout in 120 years -
You somehow “lose” by 42,000 votes in 3 states among a host of irregularities, drop box scandals, and controversies and despite winning practically every bellwether county and state -
You think back and remember they spied on your campaign, invented a fake Russia hoax, impeached you and constantly smeared and lied about you in the media -
You remember that anarchists and race hustlers unleashed months of riots and chaos in a possible domestic color revolution -
You remember that you offered National Guard troops on J6 but the offer was denied by Nancy Pelosi and Muriel Bowser - You remember that you said just hours before to peacefully and patriotically march -
You remember everything you’d given up in your previous life to be hated, attacked, and vilified by the DC snakes, insiders, and elitists -
Your own VP just fist-bumped Nancy Pelosi inside the Capitol -
You realize the entire DC cabal has conspired and plotted to hand the White House to a puppet they could control
Is it any wonder why Trump might have been a little upset on J6? He wasn’t responsible for what happened despite what the media says. It was four years of lying, cheating, and betrayal by those who wanted to get Trump at all costs. Nevertheless, he gathered himself and released a video telling people to go home—an act the illegitimate J6 Committee tried to criminalize. Then they impeached him again. Despite all of it, he’s decided to come back to retake the White House and finish what he started, a decision that provoked Biden’s DOJ to indict him multiple times for 700 years in federal prison. Who else could endure what Donald Trump has?
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One of my nephews, who is also my godson, sent that to me in a text message, after I had texted him something about the Bears game today which I knew we were both watching. As a result of his text to me we got into a big argument over text message over Jan 6, Trump, and the election.
Charlie Kirk is, at best , a far right provocateur. His tweet above is riddled with lies, misinformation and half truths. Yet, this sort of thing is embraced by "conservatives" in this country. Now, for the first time I have been unable to keep it out of my family interactions, and it makes me sad and upset.
This is going to be a horrible year.
All thanks to one mentally ill man.
Well it is not exactly all Trump's fault. He would be nothing if not for his supporters. They hold the real power and they are the reason we have such a mess.
It's his fault that such a profoundly psychologically disturbed man ever decided to run for president. He found a willing audience of racists, anti-government wackos , and disaffected blue collar whites. They collectively sometimes make good points about the problems in this country, but in the end they throw their support and energy behind the most unfit for office person in the 247 year history of this country.
Fought the Kochs and ALEC for many years.
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The folk who never graduated from high school.
The folk who resent everybody who did.
The folk who use the word elitist to describe smart folk.
The folk who shouldn't be in charge of anything.
In 2019–20, the Adjusted Cohort Graduation Rate was:
Breaking rocks in the hot sun
I fought the Koch’s and the Koch’s won.
And of petty, silly minds.
Trump is MAGAs' hero, and MAGAs are the wind beneath Trump's wings. And these nasty people are politically fighting and threatening worse to keep marginalized people and secularists suppressed in our system of governance. Time to call it what it is!
What marginalized people? Be specific.
I have no more games to play with MAGAs in 2024. Sorry! Fresh out of 'shits' to give.
Take responsibility for your own life. He only gets to you and your family if you allow it to. I have several LWNJs in my family and I don't get sucked into any of their discussions about politics. When they try I just deflect by saying something like "How many people do you really think Hillary killed?". Reject TDS in all its forms.
Trump regaining the presidency is not simply an academic scenario. There are consequences to yielding the most powerful office on the planet to a narcissist who has already demonstrated that he will throw under the bus the CotUS, the votes of the electorate, his own V.P., and anyone who does not follow his wishes.
It matters who is PotUS and Trump is by far the worst and most potentially damaging current candidate.
It is irresponsible, irrational, and unpatriotic to support Trump. Labeling rational arguments against Trump 'TDS' is irresponsible.
Thanks for your opinion but still, the only way trump can have the effect of making someone else having a horrible year is if that person let's him.
This country is going to have a horrible year. You had your chance, collectively as "the right" to run his ass out of town, but werent interested. Now its too late.
Who should have done what?
I am 99.99 percent sure I am not going to have a horrible year. I am 100 percent sure I am not going to have a horrible year based on who wins an election. I wish you luck in your horrible year.
If you are such a passive, disinterested, citizen, why are you making comments on this forum?
The country is going to have a horrible year. Who cares about you?
Thank you for your opinion as dark and depressing as it is. I am glad i dont share your doom and gloom prediction.
My wife cares about me.
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In 2020, Trump downplayed the pandemic. His inaction as PotUS had a material affect on the nation's vigilance; many followed his lead and did not take the pandemic (and the precautions) seriously. Fewer people would have gotten sick, died if they took smarter precautions.
Any PotUS can take actions that affect everyone. I am confident you would argue that Biden has taken actions that have affected you in a negative fashion. How can you possibly not acknowledge that Trump, as PotUS, could affect people negatively and that they would not personally have a means to prevent the adverse effects?
Thank you for your opinion
Because trmp didn't do anything wrong....
I would leave retirement and go back to work before I did that.
Interesting point. I wonder if there is any pay changing hands in order to constantly serve up some biased to the point of being misinformation articles on the internet.
Never in my memory have I seen such extreme political polarization between the supporters of the two major political parties in America. Never before do I recall hearing about restaurants refusing to serve someone because they are from a different political party. It got so that not long ago I said I wouldn't be surprised if there were a kind of civil war taking place between neighbours, and now with more guns out there than there are people, that can get really scary. Then it got even worse than I thought, having to have "no politics" rules at family events in order to keep them peaceful, and now, as JR has experienced, family members are going so far as to politicize every simple conversation. Wow, just Wow. What a way of life. This horror may have started growing when Obama was elected, but it has surged, it has become a tsunami after Trump was elected and has grown more horrible ever since.
Thank the chosen one and her resist minions.
The driving force of it all.
I have no idea who you mean.
Easy to forget the queen of the “resist” movement. The chosen one. Hillary.
I never heard of restaurants refusing service to someone because of political ideology
One doesn't forget what they never knew. Of course I know who Hillary Clinton is, but I don't bother following what she's involved with now.
Yep, she’s counting on that.
I read somewhere a couple weeks ago some political pundit that leans slightly left said Hillary was too old for office even if she wanted to run.
Yeeeeah.... Play with fire much?
Right and Biden is just the right age …..
I wont bore you. You tell me what part of his rant you think is true.
Details and truth never bore me.
ok, tell me what part of it you think is true and i will answer you. you have to do something here besides spew right wing talking points here every day.
Anybody up for a good , sick, laugh ?
Do you have a good, sick joke?
Open it and find out.
I didn't get it, maybe you had to be there.
Life is way too short to be over reactionary over things like this. Especially with family and friends. For your sake I hope you learn that some day John. I really do.
Yep, about 4,050 weeks. Only 930 weeks if you are now 60 years old. Before you know, we will be grilling on the 4th of July.
Hey, family is hard enough without arguing over the classics ….. money, religion or politics.
There was a time, as hard as it is to believe, that I liked to argue at family gatherings. I could take either side, I just liked to argue.
Now, as I've grown older, I'm much more laid-back, mellow or chill.
Don't forget: Sex. Sexual politics are a biggie for conservatives, in general. (Who's doing what to whom and how-especially how, that is.)
Wow. MAGAs advising liberals to just let Trump 'run'. . . and 'run,' and 'run,' some more. . . . Liberals! Advise MAGAs they are not free and lack liberty as they put blind loyalty to a brazen 'fool' who let one of their own Ashley Babbitt die for a big fake sinkhole of a lie!
As for family. . . and friends, whatever. Probably we all have at least one sucker in our living family tree!
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Trump is a divider. Trump is the root cause that MAGA lost Ashley Babbitt. I don't hate Trump as I try not to practice hate-but he gets about as close as any for me to do just that about him, personally. And now: Ashley Babbitt—Say Her Name.
Only to the triggered who allow him to be.
Nope, the root cause is the capital cop who shot her.
Whatever helps you sleep at night.
30 million dollar lawsuit …..
Of course, SSDD. Trump does not trigger me, he nauseates me. Moreover, I can't forget him, because he won't get off the daily cable news channels of which I am a "junkie." Get your 'script' straight. That's all. We all know that liberals as a whole "trigger" or nauseate MAGA, because in a confrontational war of ideas and words there has to be a foil character.
I can't stand Trump and many of his actions. But Biden and Dems are far worse.
What total nonsense. Ashley Babbit was the front end of a violent attempt to enter the US House of Representatives. The cops job was to protect the people in that chamber. If he didnt stop her he would have been in gross dereliction of duty. What did you want him to do, get in hand to hand combat with her?
As far as her being "unarmed", unarmed perps are shot all the time in this country.
Of course you can't hate the man. You're a Christian that follows the words of Jesus...who....LOVE THY NEIGHBOR
Wrong on all accounts ….. again, but whatever helps you sleep at night.
A good nights rest is important. Especially for those stressed out by Trump.
Meh, I for one don’t hold hate in my heart like many here do. Life is too short.
And yet, he was the only Capital Cop who murdered someone ….. I guess he was threatened more than all the others there that day eh? I mean Ashley Babbitt was pretty intimidating after all ….,
And she was flanked by capital police on the stairs but they didn't shoot.....................
“The cops job was to protect the people in that chamber…”
More than just people as if that was not sufficient, but our duly elected representatives on hand in the people’s house to ceremoniously certify a duly held election.
Her death, while tragic, was totally avoidable …had she not been enabled, incited, and yet still inexplicably excused for being there in the first place.
If you don't hold hate in your heart why are you accusing that cop of murder? He was investigated and no charges were brought against him.
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Whatever.
I do. I really, really, love all people. . .and I expose myself to them all the time for a 're-do.' I just 'wonder' (but not as much these days) why, oh why, they HATE (don't want the best for) me and mine. As for my faith-belief system: It's being severely tested by the continuing death of innocents in the "Holy Land". . . I can't square that circle yet of what god-fearing peoples, plural are doing there and it disturbs my spiritual energy 'flow.'
Same to you!
Good. Make peace with others who wish to compromise with you.
Ms. Babbitt stepped on the 'third-rail' of the Capitol seize that day to her unfortunate demise. Factually, she is dead because she did not listen to the DIRECTION from inside the room. Trump brought her to D.C. for his rally. Trump directed her to "go" to the Capitol. She did. And today she is long-since dead. Of course, he is still sickening the country with his toxic rhetoric.
She tried to step onto the capitol 'floor' and was warned (at gunpoint) not to ENTER. She did not heed the warning of Capitol Police. She had no right to enter a barricaded room.
“She had no right to enter a barricaded room.”
Martydom carrries a heavy price, but it is cheapened to the point of being worthless when exploited by those hoping to profit, especially if the motivation is purely partisan in nature. Shameful.
She did not heed the warning of Capitol Police. She had no right to enter a barricaded room.
if that’s your standard for a justified police shooting…..
“…why are you accusing that cop of murder?”
Cultism. “
If this amounts to a ‘trolling’ violation, given all the other bullshit one is subject to hereabouts, perhaps my contributions are wasted.
I appreciate your moderation in trying to clean this place up, Perrie, but at what point does it matter.
I know, deleted for meta…..whatever…
The operative word is, "barricade." It gets even worse: 1. Someone/s warned her that Capitol Police had gun/s drawn. 2. She stepped up to the broken out pane of an indoors window. 3.
3. Video:
BTW, that is Ashley Babbitt with the flag draped backpack and her "footprint" on the window frame before she could place either foot on the wrong side of the barricaded door.
Case closed. People are shot on the wide open streets of this country by authorities. It's an open and shut case when one is terrorizing the seat of political power in this country.
Are they? And you support that? My guess is you only support this shooting because of who was shot.
If, for instance, the police had started shooting unarmed protesters who didn't follow orders and approached police barricades in 2020 (say outside the white house during the riot when it when it was attacked), you would have a very different response.
“If, for instance,…”
The operative word always being ‘if’ …so stale, so redundant, so meaningless, so ignorant of the context.
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We don't even have to probe that deeply. What I don't support is unjustified murder.
The Capitol building speaks for itself as an historic entity.
The next operative words for those who need it is: "Capitol inside ."
That anybody, I mean anyone, imagines it is some place to be discounted. diminished, and open to flagrant hostilities or treated like a street corner where brawls happen shows a failure of understanding about the role of the congress, its representatives, and the Capitol Police sworn to protect the same! Everything about that structure is 'ringed' around with rules, policies, and protections.
For those who did not know the distinction factors about the place before; they ought to be clear about it now.
Babbitt and her friends were trying to bash the door in to gain entrance to a restricted area which had a locked door and a makeshift barricade behind it.
I guess she didnt get the message.
What do the people who say she was "murdered" think the cop should have done? Stand there while she let the rest of the mob in ? Then for all the cop knew his own life would have been in immediate danger.
There a lot of crazy things that day, but the claim Babbitt was murdered is one of the craziest.
It is beyond belief that anyone could look at that video and think the mobs behavior was acceptable, and the cop should have simply let them in.
Of course. That's how you never have to worry about having consistent principles.
Exactly, like Big Mike Brown, on the open street in Ferguson 1. Failure to follow instructions 2. Struggle with an officer 3. Moving towards an officer with a drawn gun. Case closed.
Good point. The White House isn't one of those.
Again, easy to confuse the White House with a street corner.
I would like to think (at least for myself anyway) that if I see a closed door with chairs and other "debris" stacked up high against it, with authorities holding drawn guns and folks shouting loudly and pointing at the, "Gun- Gun!" that I would want to look first to assess the situation before 'foolhardily' stepping through a crashed in window/barricade.
Do what Joe says and shoot her in the big toe?
That case is closed. But you know that already. And as a former military 'COMMANDER' you can appreciate the power of spoken words and given directions and orders to boot. Do not play games here. Everybody who lives in this country, whether they respect the capitol or congress or not knows the 'power' emanating in, out, and around the Capitol structure. So don't write nonsense to me just to be writing. This year will be different (for me anyway)!
I find it more interesting to wonder what the people who never, ever justify the shooting of an unarmed criminal make an exception for this particular unarmed woman. The same people who demand police show extraordinary restraint when guns are drawn, shots are fired at them sure are quick to justify shooting this particular unarmed woman.
I have no doubt if an unarmed woman were shot trying to break into the Supreme Court to protest abortion the same people okay with this shooting would be screaming bloody murder.
I think it's arguable that the police should have waited for someone's life to be in actual danger before lethal force was employed, but I don't quibble with the decision not to prosecute because I believe police generally deserve the benefit of the doubt in highly chaotic situations.
I have no idea what/why you are going on in this manner. The 'thing' explicitly speaks for itself! I should not have to tell anybody that if they think for even half a space that they are going to run rough-shod through the White House they are out of their damn mind/s. Consequently, let them test the theory and we can all wash them get scrapped up off the pavement or floor inside the historic 'compound.' Enough of this line of unreasonable, nonsense.
Totally agree.
I wrote no nonsense. I thought both shootings justified under the circumstances.
Seems that you’re unhappy with my opinion even when agreeing with you.
A foolish inconsistency is a hobgoblin of liberal minds.
Has someone here said that?
The operative word is, "barricade." It is an unspoken line in the sand for those who understand its meaning. Babbitt was a military veteran who likely had been 'schooled' to properly construct such structures, and may have build one or several such barricades in her time in the military service. Moreover, I am pretty sure she inherently understood that a shattered glass door inside any building is not the approved way to egress inside the Capitol. I am pretty sure she read the 'room' she was about to enter WRONG.
Proof of MAGA (3) influence.
I think Joe told Jill if there's ever a problem to walk outside their home or through the door, fire two shotgun blasts. Obviously that would be more messy in this instance and probably illegal at the Biden residence.
Apparently, you see no distinction in meanings of location-time and space. Well, there are distinctions and will benefit MAGA "commanders" to inform themselves and their 'blind' forces of what/where/when/how/who before making treating all structures as "One."
In the paraphrased words of the late, great comedic mind Sam Kennison, 'C'mere, let me show you something. . . it's the Cap-it-ol. . .you're inside. . .they have protocols in here. . . you can't just shit, piss, poot, spit, or knock down barricades. . .because you're a Vis-it-or here. It's not your home!'
Didn’t Dr. Emmett Brown first warn us about messing with that space-time continuum?
Don't have any time for nonsense. For you the operative words are: "Secure Spaces."
EXAMPLE: MAGA supporters ought to have respect for those secure spaces at the Capitol.
I’ve never been MAGA and respect the spaces at the Capital. You formulate some strange assumptions.
The United States Capitol, often called The Capitol or the Capitol Building, is the seat of the United States Congress, the legislative branch of the federal government. It is located on Capitol Hill at the eastern end of the National Mall in Washington, D.C. - Wikipedia.
Thanks for the typo correction.
She was about 4 ft away from the cop when he shot her. How much closer should she have been allowed to get? Until she could take the cops gun from him and shoot him with it?
He didnt know anything about her except that her friends were violently bashing the door in.
That's about the size of it.
Exactly. And not that it mattered in the larger scheme of her unlawful trespassing (without following authorities directions), there was no way for Capitol Police to make a judgement call about what Ashley had in her backpack. In MAGA speak. . . she might have been in possession of some serious firepower like an AK-47.
Tell us the length of her backpack, couldn’t find it on Google.
“Tell us the length of her backpack, couldn’t find it on Google.”
Tell us the lengths you’ll go to be obtuse. For fuck sake, man.
I wanted to understand if a reasonable cop might expect an AK-47 hidden in it as CB suggested.
Sorry that you felt that was way out of line in a police shooting.
“I wanted to understand…”
You wanted to understand?
You only want to undermine every comment from some imagined adversary on every post…
…prove me wrong.
Brown was about 8 ft away but was charging the retreating Wilson when shot. Both righteous shootings.
What did I undermine, I agreed with CB for fucks sake.
Prove yourself right.
The good news is you won't have to worry about it, because Trump/MAGA got her killed already. At 5.1.23 you are free to dissect the video any way you wish and do your own dimensions test of the image where Ashley Babbitt is encroaching on a secured location in the Capitol. Oh, and while you get what you need, remember MAGA says (with its lips) that it supports law Enforcement.
It's pretty dense to turn "MAGA speak" with its trending and spoken love for AK-47s into a suggestion. I don't know what Babbitt had in her backpack, though evidently it is causing one hell of a hump on her back! Law Enforcement does not have time to figure it out either, thus she was given warning and well law enforcement won the moment.
what me worry?
i don’t use MAGA speak, again your assumptions are way wrong.
Again, I agreed with you, a righteous shooting. Tell us your issue with my comment.
Not all statements about MAGAs are about you.
Yes, MAGAs generally do love themselves some AK-47!
MAGAs were breaking and entering the Capitol and additionally attempting to trespass into a secured space inside the Capitol. Moreover, since we all know that degrees matter, we can agree that Capitol Police are not Municipal Police. That is, there may certainly be different protocols and 'stress tests' for egress through the Capitol while attacking. . . . Ashley Babbitt did not break the window she attempted to mount and step through and it was fatal mistake do have done so.
No and none should be. Perhaps my comments here somehow confused you or you were embarrassed to publicly acknowledge that we agreed on these shootings.
This is not about me either. Back to the content/material of the article, please.
The article doesn’t include this Capitol shooting at all, I’ve been responding to your comments.