Trump using race card to attack Nikki Haley
Trump is claiming that Haley is ineligible to be president because her Indian parents were not US citizens when she was born . The claim is laughable (she is a natural born citizen) , but the claim is not intended to get her disqualified, it is intended to emphasize that she is non white. Her parents come from a "brown" country, so she is brown no matter where she was born.
Birtherism Pt 2.
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As Nikki Haley surges in Republican polls, former President Donald Trump has turned to his social media outlet where he is promoting a "birther" conspiracy theory against the former South Carolina governor.
Trump posted an article on his Truth Social account from a right wing outlet that claims Haley is ineligible to be president because her parents were not U.S. citizens when she was born.
While her parents became citizens after her birth, Haley was born in South Carolina. Under the 14 th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, being born in the United States makes her a natural-born citizen. She is therefore eligible to become president.
The Trump campaign has long said that he would target whoever was most threatening him in the Republican primaries. Haley has emerged as his top rival in recent weeks. A new University of New Hampshire/CNN poll shows Haley trailing Trump in the Granite State by just single digits.
Haley's rise in polls draws Trump's birther conspiracy, again : NPR
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Even an idiot knows that people born in the US are natural born citizens. Then there is trump.
Natural-born-citizen clause (United States)
The weight of legal and historical authority indicates that the term "natural born" citizen would mean a person who is entitled to U.S. citizenship "by birth" or "at birth," either by being born "in" the United States and under its jurisdiction, even those born to alien parents
Many would argue that the 14th Amendment, written almost completely in the context of the Civil War was referring to those born to newly freed slaves. Either way I don't see why questioning that section of the 14th Amendment involves "racism." Similar questions once arose over Barry Goldwater being eligible.
Other people know Trump better than you do.
Do you acknowledge that Trump is supporting a desperate lie about Haley?
It has always been a legitimate debate:
This pair of articles debates the original meaning of Section 1 of the 14th Amendment, seeking to answer the question: Does the 14th Amendment Guarantee Citizenship to Babies Born to Illegal or Transient Immigrants on U.S. Soil? Mr. Walpin answers “no,” arguing that treating immigrants and the children humanely does not require interpreting the Constitution to grant birthright citizenship.
The Federalist Society (fedsoc.org)
I look forward to the day when Congress can address the vague structure of much of the 14th Amendment.
Trump's history of racism.
Biden's history of Racism.
Biden’s History of Getting Away With Racist Remarks | The Heritage Foundation
So you do NOT acknowledge that Trump is supporting a desperate lie about Haley.
The fact that people debate something does not mean anything. We operate on the law and on precedent of same.
Jus soli is decided US law. Anyone born on US soil is ipso facto a natural born citizen. Haley was born in South Carolina.
"Anyone born on US soil is ipso facto a natural born citizen."
That's what has brought us "anchor babies".
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It does not matter. That is the law of the land.
Thus it is wrong for Trump to suggest Haley is ineligible.
Do you agree or disagree?
I agree, I doubt any of them are on NT
She's a natural born citizen. Trump distributes stupid bullshit every single day. I disregard anything he says. Most rational and sane people do likewise.
That would eliminate about 60% of the Republican voters apparently.
The majority of the GOP are thus voting for a person to be the PotUS whose words they disregard as stupid bullshit.
Or should we conclude that the majority of the GOP is not rational and sane?
That seems higher than Hillary’s accounting for deplorables, has their quantity grown?
That is the percentage of Republicans expected to vote for trump in the primaries.
Damn, their numbers grow.
Probably the white blue collar workers that cost Hillary the 2016 election.
National : President: Republican primary : 2024 Polls | FiveThirtyEight
I can’t discern your point.
what a shame
Indeed.
$500 on door number 2, Alex.
A Genetic Fallacy. The source is only reporting real events. Denial of this fact will get you nowhere.
Traitors to the cause.
What do you expect from a lifelong racist?
There are reports today that Chris Christie is dropping out later this afternoon, and will endorse Nikki Haley.
Good news,
For Pizzerias everywhere!
Yes, with a nice Cantina Colosi Nero D'Avola Sicilia.
Would not surprise me. He is the most statesmanlike candidate left in the race.
Who doesn't act like it in the slightest.
The only reason Democrats and leftists like him is his unadulterated bashing of Trump and other Republicans.
Christie is easily as brash and bare knuckled as Trump in the political arena.
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Hopefully his political career is over for good this time.
Trump is a classless buffoon.
What on Earth drives you to constantly defend Trump ... even when compared to other GOP members?
Confirmed.
He must have some serious disdain for his wife and her parents given they used chain illegal immigration.
Trump knows that the majority of Republicans believed his last birther conspiracy theory, and he knows that many of them will believe his nonsense this time too. He just wants them to dislike her because her parents came from a 'shithole' country.
Oh, is that what they're thinking?
If all those people are racist as you are implying, why would you use the American flag as an avatar?
i’ll go out on a limb here Vic, because John is an American ?
One of several reputable stories corroborating this stupidity.
Yet Trump defenders will find some way to defend this pathetic lying.
Maybe Trump will send detectives to South Carolina, or better yet India, to find out the "truth".
Haley is a Confederate Anchor Baby...
Was that drawn before Nikki pulled down that flag in her state?
Doh!
Is that going to be the lefts accusation if she gets the nomination? Heaven forbid a strong non white woman becomes president.
Unless her name is Michelle...
Christie just dropped out, but he did not endorse Haley today.
Michael Steele says Christie will not endorse Haley unless or until she says she cannot support Trump to be the nominee.
There is a smidge of speculation that Christie might become a Democrat.
Yes, Christie tried to box Haley into renouncing Trump. I liked his speech.
You did? I thought it sounded more like he was auditioning for a part on MSNBC or CNN. I had CNN on in the car and the pundits were sure cheering the speech like they thought it was the best political speech ever.
Perhaps both. I also believe that Donald is unfit for office and has taken the Republican Party from an ascendant position to a diminishing Party.
Morning drinker...groan...oh gawd so it's election year again over there..
Fair dinkum you mob seem to have elections every few months..well it feels like it anyway..
So we have to put up with this crud appearing on our TVs till November..sob just shoot me now...
You all have my sympathy..thank heavens ours is over and done with in four weeks and that's long enough...any longer and we would riot...
Happy New Year shona.
Thanks, appreciate your sympathy. My first vote was in 1972 and across that time, I don't remember such dysfunction in our politic. The 2024 election I expect to be the ugliest in my life,
Happy New Year to you to drinker..hope it's a good one for us all..
Honestly there are 320 million of you mob running around and these two are the best you can do??
They would be croc bait here..🤣
I thought the salties had better taste....
Nah.. they're happy to take what ever they can get..good portable garbage disposal units..🐊🐊
Kinda like American voters ,they accept garbage all around.
Democrats hated him when he was a Governor. Couldn't wait to get rid of him. Attacked him viciously.
You think Sinema and Manchin are DINO's? Christie will make them both look like far leftists by comparison.
["TDS" is a non-starter on my seeds.]
See 3.2.3
Thus illustrating the fine technique that is group moderator.
I did that's why I pointed it out...................see 8.2 commentary
Which Dem is that smidgen?
Racist has no meaning anymore.
Trump wants people to reject Haley because she is not white. He is getting desperate. Buy a clue.
You first.
He uses any argument at hand to attack his opponents. That’s it. How have you not figured that out yet?
If Christie’s parents were Irish immigrants he’d say the exact same thing.
yea, and Trump would say he wasn’t eligible to be a poTUS because his parents were Irish??? Get real, he would never take that approach against a white male.
Because she has been hiding it so well? Anyone who knows anything about her already knows.
Did Trump say she wasn't eligible because her parents were from India?
well it sure as hell has come in handy for Trump these long years
"Trump Using Race Card To Attack Nikki Haley"
I am not sure that is how the race card is historically played. For examples see anything about Al Sharpton.
The claim is laughable (she is a natural born citizen) , but the claim is not intended to get her disqualified, it is intended to emphasize that she is non white.
It is always funny when someone suggest they know what is in Trumps mind when he does something. I am thinking it could be assholery as apposed to emphasize she is not white. I mean he put it on Truth Social for Gods sake. Do you really think people that subscribe to that are on the fence between him and anyone else?But that is just conjecture on my part.
If I was Nikki I might say he is too Orange to be a Human so he is not eligible to hold office on the planet Earth or it may behoove him to concentrate more on if he can pardon himself or be president if he is in prison than trying to sling shit hoping it will stick.
Hopefully she will take a higher road. I would suggest her saying she won't respond to any Trump delusional accusation until he show the documents he says he has that say her parents were not citizens when she was born.
Although I applaud your intent, you need to revise this. Haley was born to immigrant parents. But she was born in South Carolina (jus soli). The citizenship of her parents (jus sanguinis) is irrelevant.
I may be missing something but according to The New York Times " On his social media site on Monday, Mr. Trump reposted a report by The Gateway Pundit, a website influential in the pro-Trump community that traffics in all manner of conspiracy theories, sowing doubt about Ms. Haley’s U.S. citizenship as polls show her cutting into Mr. Trump’s lead in New Hampshire. The report falsely claims that because Ms. Haley’s Indian immigrant parents were not yet citizens when she was born in South Carolina, she is disqualified “from presidential or vice-presidential candidacy under the 12th amendment.”
Yes, that is false.
It does not matter if her parents were citizens. Haley was born in South Carolina so she is a US citizen per jus soli.
Thus Haley will not demand someone to deliver proof that her parents were not citizens ... it does not matter.
I've seen Christmas turkeys that didn't have that much shit in them.
From the story in the Gateway Pundit:
If that were true, several previous presidents would have been ineligible. Also, the current Vice President, Kamala Harris would be ineligible for her current position. In short, the allegation is bullshit. Everyone knows it's bullshit, and Trump is a lying piece of shit for promoting this lie.
I agree.
Trump was a piece of shit before this lie, and will be after this lie. Trump does not care that he is a piece of shit.
His supporters seem to. That's what they like about him.
Rick Wilson
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What Haley and DeSantis showed us tonight:,two cowards quivering in fear, desperate not to speak the truth about the man they will endorse in a matter of days or weeks.
Chris Christie may have taken a stand late, but at least he took a stand.
Both of these cowards will crawl over broken glass for Trump.
Rick Wilson like Chris Christie, only turned on Trump after seeking employment with him and being rejected.
That people take these two seriously is beyond my comprehension. They'd happily be Trump stooges if Trump had accepted them.
Maybe Christi and Cheney can form their own Indy ticket?
Or at least a mutual appreciation society..