another one bites the dust
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after having said "trump is crazy", Chris Sununu endorsed him for president today.
Has there ever been a more dishonorable group than today's Republican politicians ?
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N ew Hampshire Gov. Chris Sununu said he would support former President Donald Trump ’s presidential bid this week, falling in line behind the presumptive Republican nominee after former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley, who had earned his coveted endorsement ahead of his state’s primary, suspended her campaign this week .
“I’m going to support the ticket. I’m going to support Donald Trump,” Sununu told WMUR on Thursday . “But my focus is definitely going to be here in the state.”
The Republican governor, who is leaving office after his term ends this year, said he didn’t regret any of his criticism of Trump’s electability or age, but emphasized that he still preferred Trump to President Joe Biden.
“I mean, the alternative is Biden, and I think folks are seeing a lack of management, a lack of understanding of what’s happening with immigration, a lack of fiscal responsibility,” he said.
Sununu’s support for Trump follows months of campaigning and being a vocal advocate for Haley, who exited the Republican presidential race on Wednesday following Trump’s dominance on Super Tuesday. The New Hampshire governor endorsed her in December ahead of his state’s primary, and repeatedly touted the strength of Haley’s campaign before her departure.
He also pushed back on Trump’s legal arguments, calling the former president’s argument that he should be immune from prosecution “crazy.”
“Just because you’re a politician does not put you above the law, period,” he said.
Explaining how Trump should be held accountable, he said, “That’s why you have attorney generals and Congress. You have a process for that.”
Sununu, a frequent Trump critic who once called the former president “f****** crazy,” had made clear in recent months it was always his intention to support the Republican nominee.
Pressed by CNN’s Kaitlan Collins in January if he would support Trump even if he was a convicted felon, the New Hampshire governor answered, “I will support the Republican nominee, absolutely.”
“This shouldn’t shock anybody. There shouldn’t be a surprise that the Republican governor, and most of America, will end up going against Biden, because they need to see a change in this country,” he continued.
Sununu once considered a 2024 presidential bid of his own, but announced in June he wouldn’t seek the nomination , saying part of his decision was about the former president and the growing GOP field.
At the time, he reiterated that the Republican Party is “clearly moving on” from Trump, telling CNN’s Dana Bash that he did not believe the former president could win the general election.
“The math has shown Donald Trump has no chance of winning in November of ’24. He wouldn’t even win Georgia. If you’re a Republican that can’t win Georgia of November ‘24, you have no shot, and he’s proven that,” Sununu said last summer.
The governor also decided not to run for reelection this year, providing Democrats with an opportunity to pick up a key state. Sununu, a popular figure in the Granite State, is currently serving his fourth two-year term.
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none of them are worth a damn
Nikki will be next to bow down
I believe Trump requires kneeling, not simply bowing.
Is that a surprise? Remember who called Biden a racist and then became his VP pick? Probably because he liked her honesty.
I like Sununu. He wanted Haley but it is no surprise he would support Trump if he considers Trump the lesser of two evils.
So, no no...
He stated earlier that he would endorse Trump if Haley were to drop out. So this news is no surprise.
But this is still a great disappointment given he has now actually endorsed Trump. He could have simply stayed silent. Not endorsing Trump would work. But now he has endorsed for PotUS a traitor.
I wonder if he will revise his position if Trump becomes a convicted felon (a waning likelihood in our corrupt political environment)?
There are very few statespersons left who will do what is right and not abandon integrity for partisan purposes.
Fucking politicians.
Fuck Brandon is the message- loud and clear.
Trump is not worse than Brandon no matter how hard Democrats/Leftists/DOJ/FBI/AG/DA/media shills spin.
Fascinating that you think it even a consideration to vote for a demonstrable traitor — a vindictive, irresponsible, narcissist, demagogue asshole who is the only PotUS in our history to try to steal a presidential election through fraud, coercion, lying, and incitement. An individual who could very well be a convicted felon by inauguration day given his indictments which notably include:
It is a profound failure of reason for the GOP to even consider such a scoundrel, much less flock to him.
This vindictive, cash-challenged, morally bankrupt individual with the powers of the presidency would be terrible for the nation.
Almost none of them know anything at all about the issues surrounding January 6
they defend trump more or less because without any sort of knowledge they can pretend the evidence doesn't exist
Agreed. Thinking that he is, is just outrageous. Egregious and outrageous.
I was writing of Trump, not Biden.
Do you think Trump is more fit for office than Biden?
I expect you to equivocate with a non-answer such as ‘they are equally unfit’.
I think they attempt to defend Trump out of pure partisanship. The GOP is now stuck with Trump so they will blindly run to his defense. It is now pure emotion. Facts and honesty are long since discarded.
If Trump is convicted prior to the election, they will still attempt to defend him and will still vote for him.
’They’, by the way, are GOP loyalists … those who will vote for whoever is the GOP nominee.
thats only part of it . if mike pence were the nominee they would not have the enthusiasm for him that they have for trump. trumpism goes beyond partisanship
Yet again with the "I already answered that question" platitude excuse to run from a challenge.
Anyone reading this can see that you refuse to answer the question: 'Do you think Trump is more fit for office than Biden?'
You constantly rail on Biden but give Trump a pass at virtually every turn. Case in point: you just now ignored my commentary on Trump @4.2.1 and awkwardly leapt to a Biden deflection.
Thus you have no credible way to claim that you find them equally unfit. But if you are honest and admit that you think Trump is more fit to serve as PotUS then not only do you put forth a laughable belief, you undermine your claim that it is 'insane' for people to use their votes to try to minimize the harm to the nation by electing the least unfit candidate (as they see reality).
Your non-answer was an easy prediction.
True on the enthusiasm. But if Pence (or worse) was the nominee, they would vote for him. Show me one GOP loyalist who would vote for Biden (or any D for that matter).
I have voted in 13 presidential elections and have never voted for a republican and probably never would. the Democratic Party and the Republican Party have two different ideological approaches to the the country's problems. However if trump were the democratic nominee I would vote for the republican this time as long as it wasn't someone as bad or worse than trump is, which is almost impossible
I thought I was replying to tig. I must need another cup of coffee.
Possible. Or maybe Jan 6th doesn't start their hair on fire like it does some.
And exclamation point
And ‘they are equally unfit’ might be their answer. It is possible that two people are equally unfit or someone just doesn't feel the need to compare the two to determine who is more unfit, like that somehow makes a difference unless they are going to vote for the lesser of the unfit.
That seems to be at least partially correct. I wonder if the dems know what the reasons are and if they plan on doing anything to combat it other than scream MAGA to the skies. It seems that is the last thing they should do if they truly wanted any sort of unification instead of people doubling down on "Trump is our savior".
Or it could be he has already answered the question a couple dozen times. Just as you have accused him of not answering a couple dozen times because you refuse to accept his answer. Just accusing someone he has not answered your question does not mean he has not answered your question, it only means he has not answered it to your satisfaction.
You are much more patient trying to get your point across than I could ever be..
That is why Joe won in 2020. He earned votes by not being Trump. God knows he didn't do anything else worthwhile in his 45+ years in politics to deserve votes.
If you already seem to "know" the answer why is it so important for you that he admit it to you? Sounds like a strange agenda.
He has made his point 1000 times. It went way past boring a long long time ago.
I agree, that is why seeing the same question about his point asked again and again and again is so perplexing.
That is ridiculous. We are talking about wildly different individuals. One would have to ignore all their positions, actions, etc. and equate them on an overly simplistic binary notion of ‘bad’ vs. ‘good’. That would be operating at the cognitive level of a very young child. Most adults are quite capable of recognizing the material differences between these two men to determine which is worse for the nation.
And when a voter sees a difference, it would be perfectly logical for them to use their vote to help keep the worst candidate from becoming PotUS.
Do you not understand that it is both routine and expected to challenge bullshit in forums?
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Bullshit. People with very high cognitive levels can come up with adult well thought out opinions who they believe is worse for the country based on things that are important to them. This could include policy, cognitive ability, VP choice, if one is a traitor either colloquially or legally and any other factors they think are important to them.
Insulting anyone that does not share your opinion ( One would have to ignore all their positions, actions, etc. and equate them on an overly simplistic binary notion of ‘bad’ vs. ‘good’. That would be operating at the cognitive level of a very young child.) is intellectually dishonest, damages your credibility and shows your refusal to accept others for a differing opinion.
The fact that you are doing it here and now would make any rational discussion an effort in futility.
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Yeah RDtC that is my point. I noted that pretty much anyone who can think at a cognitive level higher than a child is capable of doing this.
Not what I did. You are making shit up. Probably because you did not carefully read what I wrote as evidenced by my opening comment ⇡
My point, since you totally missed it, is that it is bullshit to declare that one cannot determine which of Biden and Trump is worse for the nation, or is more unfit, or whatever meaningful comparison one wishes to make regarding a vote.
They are not equivalent, not by any adult, reasonable measure. Thus those who choose to vote for one of these individuals is NOT acting insanely ... they are making a rational choice based on their assessment of which is worse (or better) to be PotUS.
See?
And thus you did not read what I wrote (carefully) either.
Given a Biden v Trump match and no other option, my primary reason to vote for Biden is to vote against Trump.
However, I am quite in favor of:
And, of course, having a PotUS who is NOT a demonstrable traitor — NOT a vindictive, irresponsible, narcissist, demagogue asshole who is the only PotUS in our history to try to steal a presidential election through fraud, coercion, lying, and incitement. NOT an individual who could very well be a convicted felon by inauguration day given his indictments which notably include:
Have a little patience. I am multitasking. I am not sitting here with nothing else to do and able to respond to every post immediately.
Not replying immediately is not the same as evading and certainly not 'keep evading'. Get a grip.
Or he read it, understood it, and still agreed with 4.2.34
I do. I reject your attempting to spin, back peddle, change what you originally said or whatever it is you are attempting.
I stand by my comment.
LOL, you totally fuck up reading my comment and then double down. Impressive.
You were chomping at the bit for me to answer your question and this is all you have to offer in response? Why do you bother if that is the best you can come up with?
Where have I stated that I want Biden to be reelected on merit? Answer: nowhere. I have never stated anything like that.
I have stated, dozens of times, mostly to you, that if my only viable choice is Biden or Trump, I will vote Biden as a vote against Trump. In other words, Trump is —by an order of magnitude— worse than Biden.
The choice given this matchup is obvious.
After watching Biden's SOTU speech I'd say he is more than qualified for the job of POTUS.
And before watching?
Refresh my memory. How exactly is Biden a traitor?
Your sense of time is curious.
Regardless, I gave you a very detailed answer.
And in response you have nothing. So what was the pointing of asking the question?
How many times are you going to post the platitude that (stated in various ways) we all have our own opinions?
Most of your posts (unless you criticizing someone) are vague. When asked clarifying or probative questions the typical response is deflection.
You are on a forum that supports all sides of the question. Expect to be challenged. Quit complaining.
And that is it? You have nothing to say given my detailed answer?
That was your position before you asked your question. And my answer illustrated that NOT being as bad as Trump is indeed my primary consideration (as I have stated clearly dozens of times ... mostly to you). But my answer also illustrated that there are factors of a Biden presidency that I do favor. And I can also list factors of a GOP (not Trump) presidency that I favor.
Your reply is to repeat what you understood before you asked the question.
As often as I feel it is called for. It seems many folks keep forgetting that their opinion is not fact.
How many times are you going to ask the same "probative questions" when you know the answer you are going to get and you know you will still not accept it?
Amazing, a detailed answer and you walk away with the totally confused notion that merit does not matter to me.
Maybe you missed my enumerated list:
TiG@4.2.40 ☞
Seems to me that the problem is you reading an opinion and presuming that the author holds their opinion to be fact.
Here is a good way to figure this out. If someone makes a claim and does not back it up, then it is likely just opinion. If, however, the claim is backed up with an argument and evidence then you have the option to debate via a counterargument.
Unless someone states that what they have just offered is fact (i.e. 100% truth) you leaping to the presumption that they consider what they wrote to be 100% truth is profoundly faulty logic. Don't whine about opinions; put forth a challenge to the logic and / or evidence.
This also IMO is one of your favorite tactics. It is an obvious game that you and very specific others play. When challenged and do not think you can rise to the occasion, the predictable "I already answered that" and "you keep asking the same question" nonsense emerges.
And on occasions where you have answered a question but then pen a comment that contradicts your answer, it is fair game to ask the question again to clear up the contradiction.
You, et. al. will pen paragraphs of commentary trying to avoid answering a question that you claim was already answered. When all you need do is just answer the question. It is blatantly obvious deflection. Do you really think you are fooling anyone?
In contrast, you do not see me running from questions (even some truly bone-headed questions).
Bottom line, you will be challenged on this site. Wear a cup. Stop complaining.
No, Texan, NOT Trump is the first item. Merit starts at the second item.
"Low on your list" implies it is insignificant. It is not. But the reality is that the top item is (big surprise) the most important item to me.
You really have nothing to offer.
when will you be giving one...?
You asked a question, I gave an answer, now you cast my answer as justifying my vote.
You are grasping at straws.
... and merit starts at two (not 10 or later). You need to read carefully.
Problem is, you confused words. It should read, except 4 answers (from others on opposite sides) I would be winning these discussions ...
R u comparing TiG to Bo Derek ?
Enough of this. I'm going to ask one of the moderators to lock this thread. If that can't be done I'll lock the whole article. You can't take part in an article without having it get derailed
Not even close. But it was a nice rant.
I will do my part. I am done, it is impossible to take some folks seriously.
So yes, yes, …… Democrats.
Democrats circle their partisan wagons like no other.
Republicans are rookies by comparison.
How sickening. I can’t even remember how many times I saw this nepo baby turd being interviewed and his response to the question “will you endorse Trump if he is the Republican nominee?” was invariably (paraphrasing) “it’s an irrelevant question because there’s no way Trump will be the nominee.” He’s a highly annoying and disruptive person to listen to, and he knew damn well what everyone else knew - Trump will be the nominee because your party is wrongly and slavishly devoted to him. He just looked like a petulant wimp for routinely interrupting and dodging the question.