Randy Fine: Don't Nuke Gaza So Israel Doesn't Get Fallout
By: Alex Griffing (Mediaite)
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Rep. Randy Fine (R-FL) joined CNN's Sara Sidner on Monday morning to discuss the ongoing conflict between Israel and Hamas. Sidner pressed Fine on some of the controversial statements he's made since recently winning his House seat in a special election, including calling Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-MI) a "terrorist" and arguing for nuking Gaza.
"Last month, you said this when asked about how to treat Gaza," Sidner began before playing a clip of Fine on Fox News saying:
In World War II, we did not negotiate a surrender with the Nazis, we didn't negotiate a surrender with Japanese. We nuked the Japanese twice in order to get unconditional surrender. That needs to be the same here. There is something deeply, deeply wrong with this culture and it needs to be defeated.
"Did you really mean to say that the U.S. should use nuclear weapons against a people because there's something wrong with their culture?" Sidner asked.
Fine replied, "Of course not. What I was saying is that we didn't negotiate with evil in World War II. We defeated the Germans, we defeated the Japanese using any means that were necessary. And the same needs to be done in Gaza. Nuking Gaza would be a terrible idea. The fallout would drift into Israel. It would kill the hostages. The point that I was making was—"
Sidner cut in, "But you're not worried about it killing, for example, women and children in Gaza who, you know, the innocents?"
Fine responded, "I think war is a messy thing. And I think that when you defeat evil, you have to do what is necessary to do it. Israel cannot live next to a country that a huge percentage of the people wish to destroy it all of the time. They need to do whatever is necessary, and I don't know what those things are, in order to get unconditional surrender in Gaza. And that's what they're doing right now."
Sidner hit back, "Yeah, I mean you brought up nuking them, though, so?"
Fine insisted, "No, I didn't bring up, I did not bring up nuking them."
Sidner interjected as he continued, "You literally said, the same thing should be done."
Fine replied, "No, that's not what I said, no."
Sidner clarified, "You said the same thing should be done."
Fine added, "That is taking me out of context. In the same way we did what was necessary to get Japan to unconditionally surrender, they need to do the same thing over there, no matter what that is. I don't know what those tools are, but it took us nuking Japan not once, but twice, in order to get them to unconditionally surrender. And it's estimated that saved a million American lives in the process."
"My point is we didn't sit down and go, 'oh no, civilians might die, let's not get Japan to surrender.' I believe the Palestinians in Gaza are on a level of evil that we saw in Japan and we saw in Germany back in World War II, and I believe Israel needs to do what's necessary to defeat it. And I won't apologize for that," Fine concluded.
Sidner replied, "Congressman, a lot of people do not agree with that word evil for all Palestinians, but I should point that out. Congressman Randy Fine, thank you so much."
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September 1943 – 29 November 1944
4/6/1941
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12 March 1938 – 9 May 1945
3/12/1938
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10 May 1940 – 4 February 1945
5/10/1940
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6 April 1941 – 15 May 1945
4/6/1941
Part of Yugoslavia at the time
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1 October 1938 – 11 May 1945
9/29/1938
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9 April 1940 – 5 May 1945
4/9/1940
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07 July 1941 – 28 October 1944
7/7/1941
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10 May 1940 – 9 May 1945
5/10/1940
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6 April 1941 – 8 May 1945
4/6/1941
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30 June 1940 – 9 May 1945
6/30/1940
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19 March 1944 – May 1945
3/12/1944
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8 September 1943 – 2 May 1945
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6/30/1940
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10 July 1941 – 28 October 1944
7/10/1941
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22 June 1941 – 28 January 1945
6/22/1941
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10 May 1940 – February 1945
5/10/1940
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9/9/1943
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4/6/1941
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4/6/1941
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9 April 1940 – 8 May 1945
4/9/1940
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1 September 1939 – 9 May 1945
9/1/1939
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6/22/1941
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9/17/1944
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You make fine points showing the MASSIVE gap between Palestinians and Japan though it seems a bit unnecessary, only complete morons would make that sort of comparison. Does that make Republican Randy Fine and all those who agree with him morons? Yeah, pretty much, but what he says later gives you some insight into these religious bigots corroded minds. "I think that when you defeat evil, you have to do what is necessary to do it.". So, these bigots simply define any group they hate as "evil" then it gives them an excuse to do whatever it takes to defeat that evil, even if the methods themselves might be considered inherently 'evil'. If the only way to defeat 'evil' as defined by some rightwing Christian was to rape kids, well I guess Republican Randy Fine just admitted he'd "do what is necessary to do it". But that of course is taking it too far, I mean, he was really only saying that to defeat evil it's going to take murdering kids and babies, just blowing them up in their sleep or having a wall of concrete fall on them or trap them for days as they slowly and painfully die of dehydration, all so Republican Randy Fine can feel like he's helping 'defeat evil'. And of course, Randy is just one of these folk Republicans elected to represent them; they are literally their representatives, so it can be assumed that many Republicans, if not most, feel the same way.
Film? what film? I didn't say that.
Palestinian forces have spread across what? Gaza? , which is roughly the size of the city of Chicago.
Why are there still any "innocents" left in Gaza? They should have been relocated long ago.... unless Hamas still continues to use them as human shields
Israel has their own nukes. We don't need to do their dirty work for them.
But yeah! Let's start WWIII! I'm ready to die.....are you?