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This Might Be Trumps Most Bizarre Truth Social Yet

  
By:  John Russell  •  last year  •  95 comments


This Might Be Trumps Most Bizarre Truth Social Yet
Kash Patel, and the FBI, must be focused on investigating Voter Fraud, Political Corruption, ActBlue, The Rigged and Stolen Election of 2020, and arresting Thugs and Criminals, instead of spending month after month looking at nothing but the same old, Radical Left inspired Documents on Jeffrey Epstein.

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Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump · July 12, 2025, 5:21 PM
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What’s going on with my “boys” and, in some cases, “gals?” They’re all going after Attorney General Pam Bondi, who is doing a FANTASTIC JOB! We’re on one Team, MAGA, and I don’t like what’s happening. We have a PERFECT Administration, THE TALK OF THE WORLD, and “selfish people” are trying to hurt it, all over a guy who never dies, Jeffrey Epstein.

For years, it’s Epstein, over and over again. Why are we giving publicity to Files written by Obama, Crooked Hillary, Comey, Brennan, and the Losers and Criminals of the Biden Administration, who conned the World with the Russia, Russia, Russia Hoax, 51 “Intelligence” Agents, “THE LAPTOP FROM HELL,” and more? They created the Epstein Files, just like they created the FAKE Hillary Clinton/Christopher Steele Dossier that they used on me, and now my so-called “friends” are playing right into their hands. Why didn’t these Radical Left Lunatics release the Epstein Files? If there was ANYTHING in there that could have hurt the MAGA Movement, why didn’t they use it? They haven’t even given up on the John F. Kennedy or Martin Luther King, Jr. Files.

No matter how much success we have had, securing the Border, deporting Criminals, fixing the Economy, Energy Dominance, a Safer World where Iran will not have Nuclear Weapons, it’s never enough for some people. We are about to achieve more in 6 months than any other Administration has achieved in over 100 years, and we have so much more to do. We are saving our Country and, MAKING AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, which will continue to be our complete PRIORITY.

The Left is imploding! Kash Patel, and the FBI, must be focused on investigating Voter Fraud, Political Corruption, ActBlue, The Rigged and Stolen Election of 2020, and arresting Thugs and Criminals, instead of spending month after month looking at nothing but the same old, Radical Left inspired Documents on Jeffrey Epstein.

LET PAM BONDI DO HER JOB — SHE’S GREAT! The 2020 Election was Rigged and Stolen, and they tried to do the same thing in 2024 — That’s what she is looking into as AG, and much more.

One year ago our Country was DEAD, now it’s the “HOTTEST” Country anywhere in the World. Let’s keep it that way, and not waste Time and Energy on Jeffrey Epstein, somebody that nobody cares about.

Thank you for your attention to this matter!


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JohnRussell
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1  author  JohnRussell    last year

Ignorance , nonsense, lies, and buffoonery , all rolled into one unhinged social media post. 

This is your America now. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.1  Split Personality  replied to  JohnRussell @1    last year
Slavery was law
Gas chambers were law
Lynchings were protected
Residential schools were sanctioned
Apartheid had official paperwork
Colonial genocide wore a crown
Forced sterilizations were policy
Police brutality is procedure
Children in cages are budgeted
All of it legal
None of it moral
Legality is a costume
Morality is a mirror
Too many obey because it’s easier than thinking
Too many enforce because they fear becoming the punished
Too many stay silent because their comfort costs less than justice
Law is written by power
Morality is carved by conscience
If your ethics collapse under authority
If your compassion waits for permission
If your outrage depends on legality
You're not moral
You're managed
History may not be kind to fence-sitters
Neither will the future
Anonymous?
 
 
 
JBB
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1.1.1  JBB  replied to  Split Personality @1.1    last year

To their eternal shame average Germans stood by and did nothing when the legal and human rights of Jews, Gypsies and homosexuals were systematically ended by Hitler using the exact justifications MAGA Americans use today...

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  JBB @1.1.1    last year

Today's radical progressives don't seem to like the Jews much.

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
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1.1.3  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1.2    last year

That is so STUPID...it makes stupid SPUDIDER. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2  TᵢG    last year

If he believes this vulgar nonsense then I think he is certifiable.

If he does not, then he is delusional if he thinks rational minds will be positively influenced by this profoundly unpresidential idiotic rhetoric.

He is likely correct that his supporters will run with this nonsense, but I suspect (and hope) that his supporters are dwindling in number.

Well Trump supporters, is this what you expect from a sitting PotUS?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2.1  Greg Jones  replied to  TᵢG @2    last year

Literally, everything he says about the damage done by the leftists is true. It appears that Trump's approval numbers will continue to rise while the progressives keep committing political suicide by being on the wrong side of just about every issue that is important to American citizens.

Attempting to shame Trump supporters is not working, by the way.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1    last year
Attempting to shame Trump supporters is not working, by the way.

Trump supporters must be like Pluto

256

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.2  TᵢG  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1    last year
Attempting to shame Trump supporters is not working, by the way.

Of course not.  Someone who publicly supports Trump is obviously not embarrassed by their support.

The question was designed to prompt an explanation for why you continue to support this buffoon.

As usual, no explanation ... just the generic, vague 'but leftists are bad' nonsense.

 
 
 
Thomas
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2.1.3  Thomas  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1.1    last year

Be like Pluto? Cold And Dead? 

I don't think that they want to be like pluto. Some of them I think that is what their hearts are like.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.4  Right Down the Center  replied to  Thomas @2.1.3    last year

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Bob Nelson
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2.1.5  Bob Nelson  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.2    last year

When someone is frustrated because their idol is more and more obviously a buffoon, they have a problem: it's really, really hard to find anything positive to say about a buffoon! So they lash out.

It's sad, really.    jrSmiley_86_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
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2.1.6  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.2    last year

The "TOOTH" is hard to chew for Gas Lighting NIMPINPOOPS, or so I was told by one of my many HALUCINATIONS.

Are MAGAS hallucinating, too?


 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  TᵢG @2    last year

I don't think he wrote this. It's readable and no grammar or spelling errors. But I do believe he believes everything in that post.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.2.1  TᵢG  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.2    last year

It is a Truth Social post:    

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.2.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  TᵢG @2.2.1    last year

Sure but it doesn't mean he wrote it

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.2.3  TᵢG  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.2.2    last year

Maybe he used a grammar / spelling checker before he posted.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.2.4  Trout Giggles  replied to  TᵢG @2.2.3    last year

lol ok

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.2.5  TᵢG  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.2.4    last year

w=453

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.2.6  Trout Giggles  replied to  TᵢG @2.2.5    last year

giggle snort

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
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2.2.7  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.2    last year

Suicide Bomers believe everything they write, too. Leaving an inarticulate, crazy ARSE note, before they KILLED innocent folks, because they have a mean BURR stuck in their ARSE.

FUGAZI these insane idiots!

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
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2.3  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  TᵢG @2    last year

Oh, this NUT JOBS believes everything he says. He doesn't live in REALITY.

 
 
 
Thomas
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3  Thomas    last year

Fucking Crazy as a shithouse rat.

 
 
 
Gsquared
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3.1  Gsquared  replied to  Thomas @3    last year

To say the least...

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
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3.2  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  Thomas @3    last year

Amen, Brother Thomas, and he is 1000 times as UGLY!

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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4  Igknorantzruls    last year

May the Republican Party of eunix crash and burn for allowing this unchecked disturbed distributor of distractions to continue to spew such fantastical fallacies from sea to shining golfs of American shame that they have done certainly done gained.

  He, they, and about any and all others who continue to carry on as if know big deal, cause apparently they would knot, even if tied around their necks, and it certainly is

and

should be. 

Disgraceful

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5  author  JohnRussell    last year
@acnewsitics
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If the Epstein files cleared him, he’d be selling them on Truth Social.
 
 
 
Greg Jones
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5.1  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @5    last year

If the Epstein files showed Trump's involvement and participation in illegal acts, they would have been leaked long ago.

It's articles like this one that clearly show why the progressive left has fallen out of favor by a majority of American citizens. If the Dems ever want to regain any kind of political power again, they're going to have to quit focusing on Trump and stop ignoring the will of the people. I don't see that happening, and the campaigning for the midterms will start in about 6 months

 
 
 
Hallux
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5.1.1  Hallux  replied to  Greg Jones @5.1    last year
It's articles like this one that clearly show why the progressive left has fallen out of favor by a majority of American citizens.

Um ... the entirety of the article is a quote from the maestro of mendacity.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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5.1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  Hallux @5.1.1    last year

I was referring to all the idiotic comments prior to 5.1

 
 
 
TᵢG
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5.1.3  TᵢG  replied to  Greg Jones @5.1    last year

Another vague, generic comment that totally ignores the unpresidential, irrational crap from Trump that is the topic of this seed.

Can you even imagine another PotUS writing or speaking such nonsense?   If any other PotUS were to write something like this we would think he had lost his mind.   So why is Trump immune from this assessment?   Why do you still support a total nutcase like this?

Just try to imagine Reagan making such a statement.   You cannot.   You cannot picture any PotUS doing this so why does that alone not cause you to even take a pause and reevaluate your support for Trump?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1.4  author  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @5.1.3    last year

Dont expect an answer. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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5.1.5  TᵢG  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.4    last year

I never do.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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5.1.6  Greg Jones  replied to  TᵢG @5.1.3    last year

I'm a moderate REPUBLICAN as you can plainly see by my avatar. I am neither a conservative nor a MAGA (whatever that is)

I support the REPUBLICAN agenda and programs, and so should you if you're an unbiased and patriotic American.

That approval and support would extend to J D Vance, Ron DeSantis, or even Nikki Haley if they had been elected.

Over half the electorate agrees with me and has pretty much rejected your party of racism, unhinged hatred. and violence. The Dems can't govern and support all the wrong issues, which we've gone over, again and again.

Stop the subtle insults and shaming. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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5.1.7  TᵢG  replied to  Greg Jones @5.1.6    last year

You of course ignored my questions.   And you yet again pretend that I am a D when I have made it clear dozens of times that I am not nor have I ever been a D.  How many times did I note in this forum that I supported Haley (including financially) and that I would have supported most of the R primary candidates over Biden (and certainly over Trump)?

Can you even imagine another PotUS writing or speaking such nonsense?   If any other PotUS were to write something like this we would think he had lost his mind.   So why is Trump immune from this assessment?   Why do you still support a total nutcase like this?

Just try to imagine Reagan making such a statement.   You cannot.   You cannot picture any PotUS doing this so why does that alone not cause you to even take a pause and reevaluate your support for Trump?

You cannot answer these questions.   Why?

 
 
 
TᵢG
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5.1.8  TᵢG  replied to  Greg Jones @5.1.6    last year

The R party is Republican in name only.   The R party of Reagan, et. al. does not exist and has been superseded by GoP TRUMP .

Over half the electorate agrees with me ...

Wrong.   This is the electorate:  

Republican Independent Democrat
% % %
2024 28 43 28

63.7% of eligible voters voted.

Given that, the percentage of voters who voted for Trump would be 49.8% of 63.7% or 31.72% of the electorate.

Not even half of those who voted agree with you and at best 31.72% agreed with you.   And that was before Trump engaged in the disaster of his second term.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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5.1.9  Split Personality  replied to  Greg Jones @5.1.6    last year
I am neither a conservative nor a MAGA (whatever that is)

Stop jerking us around greg.  For a self professed expert on the radical left progressives that were ruining your country, you would have to be myopic.

I support the  REPUBLICAN  agenda and programs, and so should you if you're an unbiased and patriotic American.

You can't even tell us what the Republican Agenda is.  It certainly shouldn't be to spend us into bankruptcy while becoming a police state where the same people who would rather die than wear a COVID mask, now serve in ICE, HSI, and even the National Guard and USMC wearing bandanas and scarves to hide their identities.

That approval and support would extend to J D Vance, Ron DeSantis, or even Nikki Haley if they had been elected.

That belies your first statement.

Over half the electorate agrees with me

Bullshit. The election was decided by 1.5% with "did not vote" the actual winner

2024 was a Landslide...for 'Did Not Vote' | Environmental Voter Project

and has pretty much rejected your party of racism, unhinged hatred. and violence.

There you go again with the ultra conservative bias that sounds like fascism.

The Dems can't govern

Facts are not in evidence

and support all the wrong issues

By the very reason that they tend to be liberal, not conservatives yearning for the 1960s there is going to be support from some for some wacky ideas.  Remember when slavery was legal? Lynching black men was legal? All men were created equal?  ( That one is certainly still under construction )

, which we've gone over, again and again.

No, you have gone over it again and again unconvincingly.

 
 
 
CB
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5.1.10  CB  replied to  Greg Jones @5.1.6    last year

Reagan was definitely a conservative. Let's get that straight. And, of course, you know what a "MAGA supporter" is - get that straight too. 

 
 
 
cjcold
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5.1.11  cjcold  replied to  Greg Jones @5.1    last year

Trump had Epstein killed so he couldn't testify.

You mean there are files?!?!?!?!?   DJT

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
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5.2  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  JohnRussell @5    last year

Isn't that the truth?

 
 
 
Dig
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6  Dig    last year
The Left is imploding! Kash Patel, and the FBI, must be focused on investigating Voter Fraud, Political Corruption, ActBlue, The Rigged and Stolen Election of 2020, and arresting Thugs and Criminals, instead of spending month after month looking at nothing but the same old, Radical Left inspired Documents on Jeffrey Epstein.

Translation — The sick, traitorous tyrant wants his hand-picked yes men to get to work rewriting history to match his lies.

And the way he's been going out of his way to diminish the Epstein thing and scare people away from it only makes it look like there's something there that he doesn't want exposed. The more he whines, the more interest there should be.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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6.1  TᵢG  replied to  Dig @6    last year

Also, did you notice that Trump (of all people) called Epstein 'this creep'.

Trump, of all people, calling his buddy Epstein a creep.

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Dig
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6.1.1  Dig  replied to  TᵢG @6.1    last year

Yup. He keeps signaling that he wants people to leave it alone. 

Hmm. Makes you wonder why, right? Especially with so many of his cultish followers expecting him to release everything.

 
 
 
cjcold
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6.1.2  cjcold  replied to  TᵢG @6.1    last year

Trump seems to forget that there are/were several pictures of him with naked teens in Epstein's safe.

Whatever happened to those 25 girls/women who at one point had filed sexual assault charges against him? One has to wonder how many more there were who didn't go on record out of fear.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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6.1.3  TᵢG  replied to  Dig @6.1.1    last year

I just cannot wrap my head around how Trump can live with himself.   He is by far the most dishonest, narcissistic person I have observed.   After all, he is quite aware that he enjoyed the pleasures of Epstein and how those pleasures were delivered.   He is as much a creep as Epstein for that and for his numerous other misdeeds.   Yet he calls his buddy Epstein a 'creep'.   What a damaged mind this guy has.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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6.1.4  Sean Treacy  replied to  TᵢG @6.1.3    last year
e is as much a creep as Epstein for that and for his numerous other misdeed

What insanity.  All you know is Trump, like Bill Clinton or Bill Gates, was his friend and flew on a plane with him.   To say he's as "much as a creep as Epstein" is pure fantasy and partisan projection.  Epstein raped underaged teen girls. There is zero credible evidence Trump did. If there was, one can only imagine why Obama Biden/Garland etc kept it quiet. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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6.1.5  TᵢG  replied to  Sean Treacy @6.1.4    last year
What insanity. 

You think it is insane to note that Trump calling Epstein (or anyone) a 'creep' is ironic??

At least give a half-hearted attempt at being serious.

 
 
 
Dig
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6.1.6  Dig  replied to  TᵢG @6.1.3    last year
I just cannot wrap my head around how Trump can live with himself.

In my non-professional opinion, it's psychopathy. Psychopaths have little to no conscience to guide them, and they cant be shamed. It's a mental defect. No empathy, no remorse, and a tendency toward criminal behavior. 

Remember back in his first administration when the White House physician Ronny Jackson said he was in such great physical condition (big eye roll there), and that it was amazing how things don't weigh on him, how he gets out of bed everyday with a fresh mind (paraphrasing there) as if nothing really gets to him? I remember thinking at the time how much that sounded like psychopathy.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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6.1.7  TᵢG  replied to  Dig @6.1.6    last year

Works for me.

(My favorite extant group)

 
 
 
TᵢG
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6.1.8  TᵢG  replied to  Sean Treacy @6.1.4    last year
If there was, one can only imagine why Obama Biden/Garland etc kept it quiet. 

You are surprised that a responsible administration would choose to NOT trash a former PotUS with salacious details of his personal life?

 
 
 
Thomas
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6.1.9  Thomas  replied to  TᵢG @6.1.7    last year

Nice! 

 
 
 
cjcold
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6.1.10  cjcold  replied to  Sean Treacy @6.1.4    last year

I'm just curious as to why the Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi never did anything.

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
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6.2  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  Dig @6    last year

TRUMP is trebling so much his diaper dried up.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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7  TᵢG    last year

Add this post where Trump illustrates that he fancies himself a King:

Truth Details | Truth Social

Because of the fact that Rosie O’Donnell is not in the best interests of our Great Country, I am giving serious consideration to taking away her Citizenship . She is a Threat to Humanity, and should remain in the wonderful Country of Ireland, if they want her. GOD BLESS AMERICA!

He is way out of control.

Okay Trump supporters, do you approve of a PotUS taking away someone's citizenship because he feels like it?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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7.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  TᵢG @7    last year

He's trolling. You know, like Biden was when he gives himself laser eyes. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7.1.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @7.1    last year

The idea that Trump and Biden are equally trollish is completely absurd and simply shows how unserious Trump supporters are. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7.1.2  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @7.1    last year
He's trolling.

If he were still a reality tv game show host this might be slightly acceptable as "entertainment". For the president of the United States to act like Trump does on a daily basis is a tragedy for our country. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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7.1.3  TᵢG  replied to  Sean Treacy @7.1    last year

Oh that makes it okay for you?   It is fine because Trump is 'trolling'?

 
 
 
CB
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7.1.4  CB  replied to  TᵢG @7.1.3    last year

Presidents should be barred from trolling individuals. It's outrageous. It's dangerous. We know this. This man is unprofessional and that is saying something. That any man would put himself out before the public and not care about how he is perceived by the majority of the country (and by extension the world) speaks volumes about the failure of our national 'choosing.'

 
 
 
TᵢG
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7.1.5  TᵢG  replied to  CB @7.1.4    last year

Every other PotUS would never even consider such a thing.

Trump is unfit.   Those who enabled him should be ashamed.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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7.1.6  Trout Giggles  replied to  TᵢG @7.1.3    last year
Oh that makes it okay for you?   It is fine because Trump is 'trolling'?

It's because it's trmp. Sean can't find another way to defend him for this outrageous remark so trmp is "trolling"

 
 
 
Gsquared
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7.1.7  Gsquared  replied to  Sean Treacy @7.1    last year
He's trolling.

Yep, the President of the United States is a troll.

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Doing what all trolls do.  Guarding his bridge.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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7.1.8  TᵢG  replied to  Trout Giggles @7.1.6    last year

Note how no Trump supporters will weigh in on my question:

TiG @7 ☞ Okay Trump supporters, do you approve of a PotUS taking away someone's citizenship because he feels like it?

So what is happening here?   Do Trump supporters approve of Trump threatening to (illegally and unconstitutionally) take away someone's citizenship?   If so, is the rule of Trump now more important to them than the CotUS?   If not, then why do they continue to support this psychopath?


By the way, Dig has IMO correctly identified that Trump is a psychopath.   The characteristics of psychopathy are:  

1. Pathological Lying and Manipulation

“If you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes accepted as the truth.” —attributed to various sources

2. Lack of Morality and Rule Breaking

“Rules are meant to be broken; that’s how you WIN.” —Anonymou

3. Lack of Empathy and Cold-Heartedness

"Sociopathy is, at its very essence, ice-cold.” —Martha Stout

4. Narcissism and False Superiority Complex

“Narcissism is, in a metaphorical sense, one half of what sociopathy is.” —Martha Stout

5. Gaslighting and Psychological Bullying

“When someone constantly puts you down, leaves you feeling like you can't do anything right, or makes you feel worthless and bad about yourself in general… it's emotional abuse .” —Unknown

6. Lack of Contrition and Self-Serving Victimhood

7. The “Situational” Sociopath or Psychopath

Perhaps one of the most insidious forms of anti-social personality disorder is what may be termed “situational sociopathy or psychopathy,” where an individual extends cordiality, respect, and regard towards some, but exhibits inhumanity, harshness, and cruelty towards others. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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7.1.9  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @7.1.8    last year
Note how no Trump supporters will weigh in on my question:

I have to wonder if Trump supporters don't respond because they don't take the question seriously since they don't believe Trump would really try that.  

I would also suggest that few if any people would agree with him if he were indeed serious.

But if he were serious I would suggest he send ICE to where The View is taped and get five for one trip.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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7.1.10  Bob Nelson  replied to  Right Down the Center @7.1.9    last year

...... and.......... still......... no......... answer!!!!!!

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TᵢG
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7.1.11  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @7.1.9    last year

Do you think any other PotUS in our history would threaten to remove someone's citizenship?   Serious or not, Trump is unfit.   He should be criticized, not defended.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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7.1.12  Trout Giggles  replied to  Bob Nelson @7.1.10    last year

true to form

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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7.1.13  Right Down the Center  replied to  Bob Nelson @7.1.10    last year

Correct.

What about my last comment did you not understand?

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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7.1.14  Bob Nelson  replied to  Right Down the Center @7.1.13    last year

I understood your Comment. It ducked TiG's question. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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7.1.15  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  TᵢG @7.1.11    last year
He should be criticized, not defended.

Trump supporters lost all trust in the system long ago, it's all just a joke to them which is why they elected a joke candidate. As they point out here, they don't take the man they elected to the highest office in the land "seriously". They don't care that he makes outrageous claims or lies through his teeth and makes shit up on the fly and doesn't have any clue what he's talking about, those are all features, not bugs.

I think the debate between progressives and conservatives has been progressives discussing how we can continue to make progress towards a 'more perfect union' that works for the people by the people vs conservatives who argue it's all broken so the only way to fix it is to set it on fire and then rebuild out of the ashes. Trump is their arsonist. DOGE was the first salvo. So, when you ask them whether they would support Trump doing something illegal or unconstitutional, they believe he wouldn't do something like that against them, he's not being serious. But if it's something against someone they hate anyway they ignore the violation of law because it benefits them and rationalize that the law must have been wrong, not them.

So, Trump lives in a superposition of "win win" in his sycophant's minds. It really doesn't matter what he does, they will support him. They have no spines, they have no will of their own, they're just groveling cowards that are completely owned by Trump, and they will defend him till they're faces are as red as their hats.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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7.1.16  Right Down the Center  replied to  Bob Nelson @7.1.14    last year
I understood your Comment.

Obviously not

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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7.1.17  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @7.1.11    last year
Do you think any other PotUS in our history would threaten to remove someone's citizenship? 

In public?  Probably not but who knows for sure.  In private, would not surprise me at all.

 Serious or not, Trump is unfit.   

You keep trying to convince everyone of that.  Have you had any success yet?

He should be criticized, not defended.

When he has done something wrong he should be criticized. When the hate fueled masses just whine for the sake of whining unbiased people should let them know they are not buying into the hysteria.  If the hate fueled masses incorrectly translate that into defending Trump that is their problem.

 
 
 
bugsy
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7.1.18  bugsy  replied to  Right Down the Center @7.1.17    last year
When the hate fueled masses just whine for the sake of whining

This is many of the left's last dance. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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7.1.19  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @7.1.17    last year
Probably not but who knows for sure. 

Per ChatGPT:

Trump’s threats to strip citizenship from legal, native-born Americans represent a break from all prior presidential conduct. There is no historical precedent for such a claim, and it’s outside presidential authority in U.S. law.

And this should have been obvious since a PotUS has no authority to revoke citizenship and, relative to Trump, every other PotUS has been responsible (and presidential).   And if it was not obvious to you, you could have easily found out for yourself rather than give a luke-warm defense of Trump by suggesting that other PotUS' might have threatened the citizenship of a legal citizen.

You keep trying to convince everyone of that. 

Ergo, you admit that you think Trump is fit to be PotUS.

When he has done something wrong he should be criticized.

Yes.  Do so.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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7.1.20  Right Down the Center  replied to  bugsy @7.1.18    last year

Hopefully.  But being ignored or on the wrong side of so many issues really doesn't seem to bother them. They have screaming into the wind an art form

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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7.1.22  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @7.1.19    last year
Trump’s threats to strip citizenship from legal, native-born Americans represent a break from all prior presidential conduct. There is no historical precedent for such a claim, and it’s outside presidential authority in U.S. law.

Cool that ChatGPT knows everything every president said in both public or private.  Maybe we should ask ChatGPT if Trump was aware he could not actually do it when he said it.

 Ergo, you admit that you think Trump is fit to be PotUS.

I have often stated there has been no evidence that Trump is unfit.  Ergo, I think Trump is fit to be PotUS.  Of course the bar I use is different that the Trump haters use but I haven't changed my bar when he was elected.

Yes.  Do so.

I really don't think I need anyone's permission but thanks.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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7.1.23  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @7.1.22    last year
Cool that ChatGPT knows everything every president said in both public or private. 

ChatGPT synthesizes a vast corpus of data.   It has digested (and continues to digest) the whole of the web including additional data such as legal libraries, technical manuals, etc.   It also supplements the data it has digested with real-time query and analysis (reading to extract meaning) of current web content.

ChatGPT has access to and employs orders of magnitude more information than any single individual.   

Thus, yes if ChatGPT has not been able to find any record of a PotUS public threatening to remove someone's citizenship (other than Trump, which it found) then it is reasonable to conclude that no such record exists.   Not 100% certainty, but very likely.

Ergo, I think Trump is fit to be PotUS. 

Yeah, I am confident the regulars in this forum are quite aware that you find Trump to be fit to be PotUS.   And that explains why you are constantly trying to defend his idiotic and irresponsible actions.

I really don't think I need anyone's permission but thanks.

I did not give you permission, I recommended that you engage in objective analysis and indeed criticize Trump when deserved.   Given he is making bad / stupid moves weekly, the opportunity for legitimate criticism is substantial.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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7.1.24  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @7.1.23    last year
Thus, yes if ChatGPT has not been able to find any record of a PotUS public threatening to remove someone's citizenship (other than Trump, which it found) then it is reasonable to conclude that no such record exists.   Not 100% certainty, but very likely.

Of course that does not take into account the fact of the differences in coverage of what a president has said in public years ago so there may very well not be a public record of it.  That is why I said probably not instead of very likely.  Also ChatGPT would have no record of what any president said in  private because well, it was private.

 Yeah, I am confident the regulars in this forum are quite aware that you find Trump to be fit to be PotUS. 

Cool

 And that explains why you are constantly trying to defend his idiotic and irresponsible actions.

You keep conflating not buying into the Trump hysteria and supporting Trump.  I would explain it again but I don't think it will get through.

 .I did not give you permission, I recommended that you engage in objective analysis and indeed criticize Trump when deserved.   

Thanks for the suggestion but I do already.  I  am much more objective than people that hate Trump or are buying into the Trump hysteria.  They prove daily that they are off the wall in their attempt to prove Trump is not fit.

Given he is making bad / stupid moves weekly, the opportunity for legitimate criticism is substantial.

That is an opinion of people that have bought into the Trump hysteria.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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7.1.25  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @7.1.24    last year
That is why I said probably not instead of very likely. 

Your 'nuh-uh' reply is meaningless.   If you think ChatGPT's base of information is wrong then deliver your evidence.

I  am much more objective than people that hate Trump or are buying into the Trump hysteria. 

One who believes Trump and defends Trump is (almost by definition) not being objective.   Those who buy into Trump hysteria are also not objective.   However, those who look at the evidence and apply critical thinking are being objective.

That is an opinion of people that have bought into the Trump hysteria.

You truly cannot see the bad / stupid moves of Trump?   Trump is constantly making bad / stupid moves.  Just claiming they do not exist is no argument.

 
 
 
CB
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7.1.26  CB  replied to  TᵢG @7.1.25    last year

Of course, MAGA supporters can perceive stupid moves made by Trump; but then again he, Trump, is giving them what they 'want' in stalling out libs and ending social programs (that qualifiedly and quantifiably help the citizenry). They will defend him to the 'ng' degree—unless Trump turns on them to help liberals and secularists.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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7.1.27  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @7.1.25    last year
Your 'nuh-uh' reply is meaningless.   If you think ChatGPT's base of information is wrong then deliver your evidence.

Try again,  I did. Just claiming it was a "nuh-uh reply does not make it so.   Private conversations are private ergo they would not show up in ChatGPT base of information.  Information in the 1800's was much less complete as is now, ergo it might not show up in ChatGPT base of information.  The fact is ChatGPT in this instance is not a valid resource to conclude "likely" .  Anyone claiming it is is just a person looking for confirmation bias.

 However, those who look at the evidence and apply critical thinking are being objective.

Yes, and possibly coming to a different conclusion.  Like a Jury that is split after hearing the same evidence.

  You truly cannot see the bad / stupid moves of Trump?   

What did my comment "I do already" in response to "I recommended that you engage in objective analysis and indeed criticize Trump when deserved."?  Or was the question really   "You truly cannot see the bad stupid moves of Trump when I see them?"    

Trump is constantly making bad / stupid moves.  Just claiming they do not exist is no argument. 

Just claiming they constantly exist  (some folks making the claim several times a day) is no argument.   

 
 
 
TᵢG
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7.1.28  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @7.1.27    last year

I did not speak about private conversations, I stated public.   Pay attention.

TiG@7.1.23 ☞ Thus, yes if ChatGPT has not been able to find any record of a PotUS public threatening to remove someone's citizenship (other than Trump, which it found) then it is reasonable to conclude that no such record exists.   Not 100% certainty, but very likely.

Show me your evidence that any PotUS other than Trump has publicly threatened to remove someone's citizenship.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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7.1.29  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @7.1.28    last year
I stated public. 

To which I responded "In public?  Probably not but who knows for sure."  Show me your evidence that everything a president has ever said is on a record and available for Chat GPT.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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7.1.30  Bob Nelson  replied to  Right Down the Center @7.1.24    last year
people that hate Trump

I don't know anyone who "hates" Trump. I know lots of people who despise him, but that's a different thing. 

I think it's significant that some people find "hatred" to be a natural political opinion. Significant in analyzing those people, of course.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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7.1.31  Bob Nelson  replied to  Right Down the Center @7.1.29    last year
Show me your evidence

Setting goals that are obviously impossible is intellectual cowardice.

 
 
 
CB
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7.2  CB  replied to  TᵢG @7    last year

When did the president of the United States get AUTHORITY to determine WHO is in the best interest of this country? Who gave Trump this AUTHORITY to single out individuals for removal?

 
 
 
TᵢG
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7.2.1  TᵢG  replied to  CB @7.2    last year

No PotUS can deny citizenship, but the key here is that this asshole even speaks of it.   It is as if Trump is trying his best to be the worst PotUS in our history.

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
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7.2.2  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  TᵢG @7.2.1    last year

Trump has managed to be "The Worst President" in the History of American 
Presidents.

Let all "clap for him", and send him the CLAP!

 
 
 
CB
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7.2.3  CB  replied to  TᵢG @7.2.1    last year

He certainly 'talks' a lot. Most presidents like to appear relatively 'small' in office. This. . .dude. . .is on television 99.9 percent of the time—MOUTH WIDE OPEN.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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7.2.4  Igknorantzruls  replied to  TᵢG @7.2.1    last year
 It is as if Trump is trying his best to be the worst PotUS in our history.

like Georgie Bush did craft and carry out of air, 'MISSION ACCOMPLISHEDE" 'Qualle did that "

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
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7.3  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  TᵢG @7    last year

T-Diddy Trump is cracking up, not in a funny way, but an INSANE one.

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
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8  Eat The Press Do Not Read It    last year

T-DIDDY RAPIST Trump must be disposed of in the quickest way.

Do you have any suggestions that might speed up the process?

My suggestion is to send a THANK YOU NOTE to Iran's Ayatollah and wish him well.

What say you?

 
 
 
cjcold
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8.1  cjcold  replied to  Eat The Press Do Not Read It @8    last year

Make sure you get the address right. Lard-A-Lago.

 
 

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