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Sept. 2, 2025. DoD Image.One would have to be culturally illiterate not to see it coming. Men like Pete Hegseth and Stephen Miller would be comically cartoonish, B-movie villains if their statements and behaviors were the least bit funny. People are dead and disappeared . Men killed in the Caribbean on Sept 2 by U.S. forces were murdered, according to a statement released Saturday by “Former JAGs Working Group.”
Former US military lawyers speak out
"The Former JAGs Working Group unanimously considers both the giving and the execution of these orders, if true, to constitute war crimes, murder, or both"
Statement on Media Reports of Pentagon “No Quarter” Orders in Caribbean Boat Strikes pic.twitter.com/eXo0bs4zyb
— Ryan Goodman (@rgoodlaw) November 29, 2025
Secretary Pete Hegseth gave verbal orders to kill everybody aboard a small boat in the Caribbean targeted as smuggling drugs, according to two unnamed sources “with direct knowledge of the operation.” The Washington Post reports that Donald Trump and the Pentagon claim that “the Sept. 2 strike targeted members of the Venezuelan gang Tren de Aragua but have not provided evidence to support those claims.”
Once a missile struck the boat, drone footage showed two survivors clinging to the burning wreckage. The Washington Post reported , “The Special Operations commander overseeing the Sept. 2 attack [Adm. Frank M. “Mitch” Bradley, per the Post] … ordered a second strike to comply with Hegseth’s instructions, two people familiar with the matter said. The two men were blown apart in the water.”
Hegseth, unsurprisingly, declared the reporting “ fake news .” The man with the Crusader tattoos called the story “fabricated, inflammatory and derogatory reporting to discredit our incredible warriors fighting to protect the homeland.”
The former JAGS presumably know more about the laws of war than a former Fox News Weekend host. “The Former JAGs Working Group unanimously considers both the giving and the execution of these orders, if true, to constitute war crimes, murder, or both,” reads their statement :
- If the U.S. military operation to interdict and destroy suspected narcotraficking vessels
is a “non-international armed conflict,” as the Trump Administration suggests, orders to
“kill everybody,” which can reasonably be regarded as an order to give “no quarter,” and
to “double-tap” a target in order to kill survivors, are clearly illegal under international
law. In short, they are war crimes.- If the U.S. military operation is not an armed conflict of any kind, these orders to kill
helpless civilians clinging to the wreckage of a vessel our military destroyed would
subject everyone from SECDEF down to the individual who pulled the trigger to prosecution under U.S. law for murder.
A former Pentagon associate general counsel concurs, telling CNN that it is a crime either way you slice it :
“They’re breaking the law either way,” said Sarah Harrison, a former associate general counsel at the Pentagon who now serves as a senior analyst at the Crisis Group think tank. “They’re killing civilians in the first place, and then if you assume they’re combatants, it’s also unlawful — under the law of armed conflict, if somebody is ‘hors de combat’ and no longer able to fight, then they have to be treated humanely.”
Harvard Law Professor and former head of the Office of Legal Counsel under George W. Bush, Jack Goldsmith, writes at his Substack, “One can imagine stretching Article II of the Constitution to authorize the U.S. drug boat campaign.” One might also, he writes, “possibly, stretch the laws of war to say that attacks on the drug boats are part of a ‘non-international armed conflict,’ as OLC has reportedly concluded .”
But, Goldsmith concludes, “there can be no conceivable legal justification” for the killings reported by the Post. He quotes chapter and verse:
Section 5.4.7 of the DOD Law of War Manual says:
Prohibition Against Declaring That No Quarter Be Given . It is forbidden to declare that no quarter will be given. This means that it is prohibited to order that legitimate offers of surrender will be refused or that detainees, such as unprivileged belligerents, will be summarily executed. Moreover, it is also prohibited to conduct hostilities on the basis that there shall be no survivors, or to threaten the adversary with the denial of quarter. This rule is based on both humanitarian and military considerations. This rule also applies during non-international armed conflict.
Hegseth denies he gave the “kill everybody” order. Those who carried out the supposed non-order are not talking. Leaders of the House Armed Services Committee stated on Saturday that they intend to investigate. So does the Senate Armed Services Committee:
A top Republican senator, Roger Wicker, has joined his Democratic counterpart in calling for “vigorous oversight to determine the facts” of allegations that the military intentionally killed survivors of a boat strike.
“The Committee has directed inquiries to the Department, and we will be conducting vigorous oversight to determine the facts related to these circumstances,” said Sen. Wicker, R-Miss., chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, and U.S. Sen. Jack Reed, D-R.I., ranking member of the Senate Armed Services Committee.
What makes the Sept. 2 strike even more curious is an Oct. 18 statement from Donald Trump. Survivors of a strike on an alleged drug-carrying submarine were captured and would be “returned to their Countries of origin, Ecuador and Colombia, for detention and prosecution.” But survivors from an alleged drug boat from Venezuela had to die. Wouldn’t survivors of an alleged Tren de Aragua drug boat be a source of valuable intelligence on cartel smuggling operations? The committees will surely ask that question.
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Hegseth has directed the killing of dozens in the Caribbean, possibly illegally, including Columbian fishermen . Secretary Kristi Noem’s masked Customs and Border Patrol and ICE have launched a reign of terror against Latinos and other non-white U.S. residents. Both the undocumented and U.S. citizens have been impacted. Donald Trump wants and chief advisor Stephen Miller is likely directing deportations without due process, defying court orders, instituting a new kind of extraordinary rendition , and now targeting duly naturalized citizens for denaturalization and deportation.
If this were a movie, they’d plainly be the villains. They are making all of us villains by proxy. This is the part of the movie where the heroes stand up and fight back. That’s you.
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What I can't understand is why they keep sending more boats, knowing that they're likely to be bombed and the occupants killed. Seems to me to be a damned risky venture for the boats' occupants.
Are we stopping them all? Since they keep sending them I would say no. For the one's that are killed the incentive may be a generous reward given to their families.
As for this one, the boat was bombed, I would think that the two that survived were probably seriously injured and bleeding large amounts into the water, how soon before the sharks start tearing them apart while they are still alive? I think the humane thing to do is make it quick since we probably didn't have any assets close enough to save them anyways. The asset that bombed them didn't have the capability to save them.
You mean they're copying the technique used by the Palestinian Authority, using the money UNRWA and the world's taxpayers' "aid" money they get to encourage their people's terrorism against and murdering of Jews?
Sure. Euthanizing them was the humane thing to do.
We don't actually know if they were incapable of surviving, but then we don''t really know if they were trafficking drugs either so it's better not to leave any witnesses.
I imagine that any Venezuelan boat sent to rescue them would also have been bombed, and since Trump declared the airspace above and surrounding Venezuela off limits ("closed in its entirety") a rescue helicopter would probably have been eliminated, too.
Good afternoon everyone. Today, a group of former military lawyers concluded that Pete Hegseth has committed war crimes or murder, and that anyone who assisted in his illegal strikes in the southern Caribbean may also be implicated. At the same time, a Congressional inquiry led by a Republican has opened into Hegseth just as Trump pushes America closer to armed conflict in Venezuela.
Ultimately, whether accountability reaches Hegseth or anyone else involved will come down to Congress or a future administration with the will to act. For now, the question is open and the stakes are rising.
It's definitely both and the President won't be able to shield Hegseth from prosecution. This criminal executive continues to embarrass and imperil our nation and our soldiers daily.
t's definitely both and the President won't be able to shield Hegseth from prosecutio
Lol.
That's what happens when you destroy norms. The other side just does the same thing.
If there is a god, and it is sorting souls out, this entire administration should be quaking in their boots. Things wouldn’t go well for their eternal future.
That's the beauty of being a fake Christian for those in Trumps cabinet. They know there isn't really a God up there that will judge them, so they do whatever the fuck they want behind the scenes. They can be as greedy, racist, dishonest, cruel and vile as they want without any consequences because they have a few million morons who have their backs because those morons actually believe their elected officials are their Gods chosen politicians and have their interests in mind which could not be further from the truth. Trump cares about his moron bases problems about as much as he cares about global warming.
IF Pete did these things he should face the consequences. I am not sure "two unnamed sources “with direct knowledge of the operation.”" will be enough though. Also not sure the other items which all say IF these allegations are true means very much in the real world either.
Correct. There is no circumstance in which it is lawful to execute a kill-everyone order. The two shipwrecked crew members who survived the first strike were supposed to be rescued (and taken prisoner). While in the water, they posed no threat.
ChatGPT weighing in on this:
Hegseth is incompetent and irresponsible (this was obvious before he was confirmed). Trump is an incompetent clown whose desire to surround himself with incompetent sycophants results in a corrupt and incompetent administration.
Trump has obviously become extremely insane, as is happening to all of his minions.
I watched a press conference in the oval office yesterday and all of the reporters were stunned at the sheer insanity that issued from his mouth.
I feel as if America is now deeply immersed in an episode of the Twilight Zone.
Can you point out where in the video that "ALL of the reporters were stunned". Hell, can you show where ONE of the reporters was stunned?
At the point where he called them stupid?
So what....they were stunned that they were being told the truth