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Epstein Files Described As Incomplete And Heavily Redacted

  
By:  John Russell  •  11 months ago  •  71 comments


Epstein Files Described As Incomplete  And Heavily Redacted
 

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The Nicole Wallace show says they are going through the Epstein files released today , and hundreds of thousands of pages are not in the release and of the pages that were released some of them are completely blacked out.  

What a surprise !


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JohnRussell
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1  author  JohnRussell    11 months ago

Fool you twice.......

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2  Ozzwald    11 months ago

Did anyone ever expected anything else?  This does however indicate just how much Trump was mentioned in these files.

 
 
 
cjcold
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2.1  cjcold  replied to  Ozzwald @2    11 months ago

Evidence by omission. The pussy grabber must go down!

 
 
 
bugsy
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3  bugsy    11 months ago

Says the crew that melted down when dems released photos with Trump posing with grown adult women with their faces blacked out. 

Selective poutrage at the least.

 
 
 
cjcold
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3.1  cjcold  replied to  bugsy @3    11 months ago

14 year old adult women.  

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.1.1  bugsy  replied to  cjcold @3.1    11 months ago
14 year old adult women

Can you post the picture of Trump posing with 14 year olds.

I can go one better. I can post a picture of Clinton posing with a, probably underage, girl in a hot tub.

Would you like to compare posts?

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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3.1.2  Igknorantzruls  replied to  bugsy @3.1.1    11 months ago
Would you like to compare posts?

Do you honestly think that is all the pictures they have of Trump, or possibly ones that might incriminate him? Aafter all, there were only a thousand or so FBI agents searching those files to flag for redactions costing taxpayers just under a million, or so has been reported. 
  And Yes, most certainly like to compare when we have them ALL! 
  If ole slick Willy is found to be guilty of violating any laws, put him in jail. 
 Will you demand the same for Trump if they ever release what they’ve promised to release for years…?

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.1.3  bugsy  replied to  Igknorantzruls @3.1.2    11 months ago
Will you demand the same for Trump if they ever release what they’ve promised to release for years…?

Yes I will. I show no loyalty to any human being besides my wife. 

"Do you honestly think that is all the pictures they have of Trump, or possibly ones that might incriminate him? "

I read an X post a little while ago where someone posted that no matter what is released, the left will swear the Trump admin is still hiding something....

And here we are.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.1.4  Sean Treacy  replied to  bugsy @3.1.3    11 months ago
e left will swear the Trump admin is still hiding something....

No, we have to believe the people who tried to trick people into believing a photo of  Trump with Hawaiian Tropic Models was really a photo of Trump with underage girls are just honest people with no agenda. 

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.1.5  bugsy  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.1.4    11 months ago

The difference in left wing reporting

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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3.1.6  Igknorantzruls  replied to  bugsy @3.1.3    11 months ago
I’m And here we are. 



not sure where U r, cause the administration hasn’t released but a small fraction of what is required. But I’m sure Trump isn’t in any of those few hundred thousand or so docs

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.1.7  bugsy  replied to  Igknorantzruls @3.1.6    11 months ago
But I’m sure Trump isn’t in any of those few hundred thousand or so docs

Would you move on if there is nothing incriminating of Trump or will you insist the Trump admin is still hiding something?

 
 
 
MrFrost
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3.1.8  MrFrost  replied to  bugsy @3.1.1    11 months ago
Can you post the picture of Trump posing with 14 year olds.

512

Wish granted!

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.1.9  bugsy  replied to  MrFrost @3.1.8    11 months ago

Nothing to do with Epstein

You know how I know?

Because if it did, it would have been leaked before the 2020 election, or at the VERY least, right before the 2024 election, especially when it was obvious Trump was going to beat the DEI VP.

Epic fail

 
 
 
MrFrost
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3.1.10  MrFrost  replied to  bugsy @3.1.9    11 months ago
You know how I know?

Um, you said post a picture of TRUMP with 14 year olds. I even quoted you... 

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.1.11  bugsy  replied to  MrFrost @3.1.10    11 months ago
Um, you said post a picture of TRUMP with 14 year olds. I even quoted you..

My God the desperation.

The seed is about Epstein and the whining that there are no photos with Trump and any of Epstein/Clinton victims.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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3.1.12  MrFrost  replied to  bugsy @3.1.11    11 months ago

The seed is about Epstein and the whining that there are no photos with Trump and any of Epstein/Clinton victims.

But that's not what you asked for. Sorry! 

 
 
 
MrFrost
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3.1.13  MrFrost  replied to  bugsy @3.1.1    11 months ago
Can you post the picture of Trump posing with 14 year olds.

Your own words... LOL

 
 
 
George
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3.1.14  George  replied to  MrFrost @3.1.13    11 months ago

I don’t think Bugsy expected you to post a fake photo, again after it had been pointed out to be fake to you before.[✘]

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.1.15  bugsy  replied to  George @3.1.14    11 months ago

removed for context by Charger

 
 
 
zuksam
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3.1.16  zuksam  replied to  George @3.1.14    11 months ago

This one isn't fake but I don't know who she is or her age.   AA1SMr1m.img?w=612&h=340&m=6&x=185&y=100&s=58&d=58

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
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3.1.17  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  bugsy @3.1.15    11 months ago

Fact Check: Viral Photos Of Donald Trump With Jeffey Epstein Found To Be AI-Generated

fact checking from it appears india ...  so they do more than man call centers ... 

 think the question should have actually been can you show me a non AI generated or manipulated photo of trump with 14 year olds .

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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3.1.18  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @3.1.17    11 months ago
can you show me a non AI generated or manipulated photo of trump with 14 year olds .

I don't care if there are any pictures. There is just no way I can believe that Trump, after his own words describing Epstein as liking beautiful women, some on the younger side as much as he, didn't know what Epstein was up to. They were buds and it should be pretty damn obvious Trump has hid, and continues to attempt to hide much when it comes to Epstein.

 Trump has proven himself to be a POS Criminal with serious mental problems. His behavior towards women has been documented and is on full display daily. 

He is a piece of trash. His demise cannot happen fast enough, and I believe it is slowly finally happening.

 
 
 
George
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3.1.19  George  replied to  Igknorantzruls @3.1.18    11 months ago
I don't care if there are any pictures

TDS at it’s finest, I don’t need proof. 

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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3.1.20  Igknorantzruls  replied to  George @3.1.19    11 months ago
TDS at it’s finest, I don’t need proof.

If you can't tell what kind of a 'man' Trump is by now, if you can't see what a POS he truly is, my condolences. He is a failure of a person, and it's sad so many still can't see, and or, admit this.

 
 
 
George
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3.1.21  George  replied to  Igknorantzruls @3.1.20    11 months ago

And yet there is no proof like a personal diary of him taking inappropriate showers with his teenage daughter or evidenced of him ordering the execution of several Americans without due process. But Trump is awful because of the things he says as opposed to what others actually do.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
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3.1.22  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Igknorantzruls @3.1.18    11 months ago

Well , as far as the whole "Epstein files case " is concerned, i have to think and it is my opinion , that if there is really anything damaging contained in them, it would already have been released well before the 24 election as far as trump is concerned .

 only real issue i see with the photos, is no context is given with them like where and when were they taken under what circumstances , such little things like that .

 Hell, i saw one photo of Walter Cronkite with Epstein taken a couple years before WC died . no context or where or what was going on. Am i to believe that "Uncle Walter", once known as the most trusted man in the country, because he was talking to a  soon to be convicted perv, was also a perv himself? (clutches pearls ....)

as for the photos, looking with hind sight, yeah, really embarrassing for a lot of celebs and powerful people, both living and dead, but no context or anything explaining anything.  its like the pregnant pause allowing people to let their imaginations run wild in any direction they want and assume whatever they want to benefit themselves .`

 
 
 
Krishna
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3.1.23  Krishna  replied to  bugsy @3.1.1    11 months ago
Can you post the picture of Trump posing with 14 year olds. I can go one better. I can post a picture of Clinton posing with a, probably underage, girl in a hot tub.

Whaddaboudism-- still alive and well here?

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Krishna
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3.1.24  Krishna  replied to  MrFrost @3.1.12    11 months ago
But that's not what you asked for. Sorry! 

People are saying that you must be careful what you wish for!

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.1.25  bugsy  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @3.1.17    11 months ago

True, however, the seed is about the Epstein files. It may have been worded differently, but the responder knew what I was asking for.

You would never expect a leftist to post an AI photo that shows Trump in a bad light, would you s/

 
 
 
George
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3.1.26  George  replied to  George @3.1.14    11 months ago

[✘]

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.1.27  TᵢG  replied to  George @3.1.21    11 months ago
But Trump is awful because of the things he says as opposed to what others actually do.

It is because of what he says AND what he does.

One would have to be in deep confirmation bias to NOT recognize the continuous stream of irrational, egocentric, illegal, unconstitutional, unethical, and immoral/inhumane acts of Trump.

And yet there is no proof like a personal diary of him taking inappropriate showers with his teenage daughter or evidenced of him ordering the execution of several Americans without due process.

You are still clinging to this bullshit?   Good grief man, find an actual argument based on corroborated facts (and critical thinking).   Learn that there is no possible way to compare Biden with Trump on ethics and even make a dent in trying to normalize Trump.   You are engaging in futility.

I asked ChatGPT to opine on your oft-repeated, exaggerated (to the point of lying) claims:

That comment is misleading on both prongs and relies on innuendo rather than established facts.

1) “Proof like a personal diary of him taking inappropriate showers with his teenage daughter”

  • There was a stolen diary belonging to Ashley Biden, and two people pleaded guilty in federal court to stealing and selling it. ( AP News )

  • The diary’s existence and authorship do not equal “proof” of sexual abuse. The most-cited passage is from childhood recollections; it has been repeatedly weaponized as an abuse allegation without corroboration , and Ashley Biden has said her private writings were “grossly” misinterpreted and distorted to lob false accusations about her and people she loves. ( Snopes )

  • Snopes’ review of the specific “shower” claim (including the “probably not appropriate” wording that gets circulated) treats it as a claim about what appears in diary content, not as proof of criminal conduct. ( Snopes )

Bottom line: The diary theft is real; the leap from diary snippets to “proof” of wrongdoing is not supported.

2) “Evidence of him ordering the execution of several Americans without due process”

This is not accurately framed as “Biden ordering executions.” The well-known U.S.-citizen targeted killing controversy centers on the Obama administration’s 2011 drone strike that killed Anwar al-Awlaki (a U.S. citizen) in Yemen, supported by an Office of Legal Counsel memo and litigated via FOIA and constitutional challenges. ( American Civil Liberties Union )
Also, the “several Americans” framing is often exaggerated. Then–Attorney General Eric Holder stated the U.S. had “specifically targeted and killed one U.S. citizen,” al-Awlaki (with other U.S. citizens later killed in strikes not necessarily described as “specifically targeted” in the same way). ( American Civil Liberties Union )

Bottom line: There is a documented legal controversy about targeted killing of a U.S. citizen, but phrasing it as “Biden ordered execution of several Americans without due process” is misleading on the decision-maker and on the count.

The facts

The comment tries to suggest: “Trump is condemned for words, while Biden did worse deeds.” That is a false comparison because:

  • The diary claim is innuendo presented as proof , which Ashley Biden says has been grossly misused. ( NBC10 Philadelphia )

  • The targeted-killing issue is a separate, heavily litigated national-security/legal controversy with a public legal rationale; it is not accurately summarized as “Biden ordered executions.” ( American Civil Liberties Union )

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.28  author  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.27    11 months ago
The diary’s existence and authorship do not equal “proof” of sexual abuse. The most-cited passage is from childhood recollections; it has been repeatedly weaponized as an abuse allegation without corroboration , and Ashley Biden has said her private writings were “grossly” misinterpreted and distorted to lob false accusations about her and people she loves. ( Snopes )

Ashley Biden campaigned for her father in 2020 and 2024 and from all appearances they have a loving relationship. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.29  author  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.27    11 months ago

Days until Trump is out of office

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TᵢG
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3.1.30  TᵢG  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.29    11 months ago

Uhgghh

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  bugsy @3    11 months ago
Says the crew that melted down

It's the same crew that didn't call to release the files.  And are, now, silent given WHO appears in the files.

 
 
 
Gsquared
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4  Gsquared    11 months ago
Epstein Files Described As Incomplete And Heavily Redacted

Surprise!!!

 
 
 
cjcold
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4.1  cjcold  replied to  Gsquared @4    11 months ago

Trump was just a tourist passing through town.

 
 
 
bugsy
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4.1.1  bugsy  replied to  cjcold @4.1    11 months ago
Trump was just a tourist passing through town.

What was Clinton's excuse?

 
 
 
Krishna
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4.1.2  Krishna  replied to  bugsy @4.1.1    11 months ago
What was Clinton's excuse?

Whataboudism?

 
 
 
Krishna
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4.1.3  Krishna  replied to  cjcold @4.1    11 months ago
Trump was just a tourist passing through town.

Perhaps he was merely wishing that the town would be named after him?

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MrFrost
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4.2  MrFrost  replied to  Gsquared @4    11 months ago

Surprise!!!

Not even a little bit, Bondi is a filthy little partisan hack. She broke the law and from the right? Nothing but cheers. Not shocked in the least. 

 
 
 
Gsquared
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4.2.1  Gsquared  replied to  MrFrost @4.2    11 months ago

You've got that right.  They are going to do everything they possibly can to not release anything, and what they might release will be heavily redacted.  They can't be believed or trusted about anything ever. 

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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4.2.2  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Gsquared @4.2.1    11 months ago

There’s probably a list of words that this DOJ allow to remain unredacted, including “and”, “to”, “the”, “a”, and a couple others.

 
 
 
bugsy
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4.2.3  bugsy  replied to  MrFrost @4.2    11 months ago
he broke the law

Can you post what law she broke?

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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4.2.4  Ozzwald  replied to  bugsy @4.2.3    11 months ago

Can you post what law she broke?

H.R.4405 - Epstein Files Transparency Act

 
 
 
bugsy
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4.2.5  bugsy  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2.4    11 months ago

OK...so impeach her....

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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4.2.6  Ozzwald  replied to  bugsy @4.2.5    11 months ago

OK...so impeach her....

I don't have that authority, but from what I've heard impeachment filings are under way.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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4.2.7  MrFrost  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2.4    11 months ago

Thanks Ozzy..

 
 
 
bugsy
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4.2.8  bugsy  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2.6    11 months ago
I don't have that authority, but from what I've heard impeachment filings are under way.

OK so what, but be warned that if she does get removed through impeachment or if Trump fires her, Trump will probably appoint someone even more aggressive and ensure that person dots all the i's and crosses all the t's when they indict half the Obama and Biden admins.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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4.2.9  TᵢG  replied to  bugsy @4.2.8    11 months ago

Correct, Trump is the problem and he has power only because of his remaining supporters.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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4.2.10  Ozzwald  replied to  bugsy @4.2.8    11 months ago
OK so what, but be warned that if she does get removed through impeachment or if Trump fires her, Trump will probably appoint someone even more aggressive and ensure that person dots all the i's and crosses all the t's when they indict half the Obama and Biden admins.

So your only defense is that as bad as she is, there could be someone worse?  Wow....MAGA!!

 
 
 
bugsy
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4.2.11  bugsy  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2.10    11 months ago

Show me where I defended her.

Point is, you may regret getting what you wished for

 
 
 
MrFrost
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4.2.12  MrFrost  replied to  bugsy @4.2.11    11 months ago

Point is, you may regret getting what you wished for

You asked for a picture of trump posing with 14 year olds......which was posted. Now what?

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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4.2.13  Igknorantzruls  replied to  TᵢG @4.2.9    11 months ago
Correct, Trump is the problem and he has power only because of his remaining supporters.

And this is what is so seriously frustrating when dealing with those that downplay and/or defend Trumps actions. They claim they don't agree with his talk and his actions, yet they tolerate it, thus enabling this POS to further fck up this once great country. The extent that some will go to claim they are not defending Trump, while obviously defending Trump, is just ridiculous, and Exactly Why Trump is able to continue to fck up this country. Until there is serious pushback, Trump will not ease up. The way ALL of US must suffr due to the stubbornness of ones duped, and their unwillingness to admit what they've allowed has allowed for it to continue. When there is more push back, it will force Trump to curtail his behavior, or, since the GOP has lost control of the monster they surely allowed and created, we will be faced with some very serious developments, imho. 

 
 
 
Krishna
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4.2.14  Krishna  replied to  bugsy @4.2.5    11 months ago
OK...so impeach her....

Seriously-- do you actually believe that Ozzwald has that power?  

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Krishna
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4.2.15  Krishna  replied to  bugsy @4.2.8    11 months ago
Obama and Biden admins.

People are glad that you brought that up. 

(People are saying that both Obama and Biden now have too much power . . . and that they should be impeached and removed from office ASAP!!!)

 
 
 
bugsy
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4.2.16  bugsy  replied to  Krishna @4.2.14    11 months ago
Seriously-- do you actually believe that Ozzwald has that power? 

Seriously....do you think I meant him personally?

 
 
 
bugsy
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4.2.17  bugsy  replied to  Krishna @4.2.15    11 months ago
People are saying that both Obama and Biden now have too much power . . . and that they should be impeached and removed from office ASAP!!!)

You do realize both of them can be indicted and convicted now that they are out of office.

Ask Trump about that.

 
 
 
Dig
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5  Dig    11 months ago

What did everyone expect? The files are in the custody of Trump's DOJ. Classic case of the fox guarding the henhouse.

 
 
 
bugsy
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5.1  bugsy  replied to  Dig @5    11 months ago
Classic case of the fox guarding the henhouse.

If there is something derogatory with Trump i those files, why didn't the Biden admin release them. 

You know damn well if there was something bad, it would, at the very least, been leaked out. 

Just to get Trump

 
 
 
TᵢG
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5.1.2  TᵢG  replied to  bugsy @5.1    11 months ago
If there is something derogatory with Trump i those files, why didn't the Biden admin release them. 

Garland was one of the most conservative AGs in recent history.   He was overly concerned about stirring the political pot.   This concern is one of the reasons Trump was never held accountable for his Jan 6 and classified documents crimes.   Garland should have started the Jan 6 investigation immediately after Trump left office.

The Epstein files likely incriminate and/or embarrass many people other than Trump.  Ds, Rs, and of course foreign dignitaries.   It is certainly reasonable for an AG to exercise judgment and not pursue this on the public stage.

Also, Biden intentionally kept the constitutional arms-length distance from the AG.   What Trump is doing with Bondi is extraordinary and wrong.   Other PotUS' trended towards AG independence unlike Trump.   So this was not Biden's decision but rather Garland's.

Finally, not every administration is vindictive.   And likely there has been no administration as vindictive as Trump's.   

 
 
 
Krishna
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5.1.9  Krishna  replied to  bugsy @5.1    11 months ago
Just to get Trump

Trump?

WTF!!!

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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7  sandy-2021492    11 months ago

Slap fighting going both ways removed @5.1

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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8  Buzz of the Orient    11 months ago

IMO the massive redactions and blacked out pages are capable of causing the people's imagination to be even more damning than not.  It allows people to think the worst and maybe it's more damaging even if it cannot be used as proof.

 
 

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