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Trump blasts US Olympic skier as a 'real Loser'

  
Via:  John Russell  •  9 months ago  •  104 comments

By:   Paul Farrell (The Independent)

Trump blasts US Olympic skier as a 'real Loser'
When asked what it meant to represent the U.S. at the Milan Cortina games, Hess, 27, told Reuters, "It's a little hard. There's obviously a lot going on that I'm not the biggest fan of, and I think a lot of people aren't"

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President Donald Trump has branded Team USA Olympic halfpipe skier Hunter Hess a "real loser" after the athlete spoke out against "everything that's going on in the U.S."

When asked what it meant to represent the U.S. at the Milan Cortina games, Hess, 27, told Reuters, "It's a little hard. There's obviously a lot going on that I'm not the biggest fan of, and I think a lot of people aren't."

"Just because I'm wearing the flag doesn't mean I represent everything that's going on in the U.S," he added.

The Bend, Oregon, native went on to say that he was instead representing "all the things I believe are good about the U.S."

In response to those words, Trump wrote on Truth Social on Sunday morning, "U.S. Olympic Skier, Hunter Hess, a real Loser, says he doesn't represent his Country in the current Winter Olympics. If that's the case, he shouldn't have tried out for the Team, and it's too bad he's on it. Very hard to root for someone like this. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!"

The MAGA reaction to Hess's comments has been gathering steam in recent days, with right-wing provocateur Jack Posobiec retweeting a video of the skier with the words, "Easily solved. Get out."

Trump-friendly YouTubers-turned boxer Jake Paul echoed these sentiments tweeting, "Wow pls shut the f--- up. From all true Americans. If you don't want to represent this country go live somewhere else." Over the weekend, Paul attended the games alongside Vice President JD Vance.

Another influencer, Vance Langman, tweeted, "For the record: I'm rooting against our men's Olympic ski team."

Fellow freestyle skier also spoke out about issues in the U.S., telling the media, "A lot of times, athletes are hesitant to talk about political views and how we feel about things. I feel heartbroken about what's happening in the United States."

"I'm pretty sure you're referencing ICE and some of the protests and things like that. I think that as a country, we need to focus on respecting everybody's rights and making sure that we're treating our citizens as well as anybody, with love and respect," he continued.

Lillis followed up by saying there is no other country he'd rather represent on the international stage than the U.S.

While figure skater Amber Glenn has also spoken out.

"Politics affects us all. It is something I will not just be quiet about," she told the media.

This prompted a response from former Fox News star Megyn Kelly, who tweeted, "Another turncoat to root against."

Hess has had a difficult path to Italy after a string of injuries ruled him out of previous games.

"The last Olympic qualifying process was crazy," Hess told KTVZ. "Everything that could possibly go wrong went wrong. I tore my MCL, did all the recovery, and everything was tracking perfectly."

The day before he was due to get back to training, he suffered appendicitis.

"I woke up in the middle of the night with appendicitis. I drove myself to the hospital, had immediate surgery, and was out even longer."

His comeback was made complete this past January when he confirmed his qualification for the Cortina games.


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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    9 months ago

How proud MAGA must be right now. 

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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1.1  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  JohnRussell @1    9 months ago

I don’t think they care.  They are way beyond caring.

384

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @1.1    9 months ago

Athletes and movie stars aren't supposed to express their opinions....unless they line up with the Whitey Tighty Christy Nasties

 
 
 
MrFrost
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2  MrFrost    9 months ago

Well of course, trump is a much better skier......

/s

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3  seeder  JohnRussell    9 months ago
“U.S. Olympic Skier, Hunter Hess, a real Loser, says he doesn’t represent his Country in the current Winter Olympics,”  Trump posted on Sunday . “If that’s the case, he shouldn’t have tried out for the Team, and it’s too bad he’s on it. Very hard to root for someone like this. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!”
 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @3    9 months ago

He didn't say he didn't represent his country. How hard is it to actually quote the real words from someone's mouth?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4  Sean Treacy    9 months ago

And if one of the Olympians in 2024 had used his platform to attack the USA  for engaging in race discrimination through DEI programs, or any other left wing sacred belief you'd be up in arms over it.  

When athletes mouth attack American using left wing talking points, they are brave progressive heroes , if say something actually transgressive  to elite opinion  like "women can choose to raise families too" they are vilified.  We've all seen it play out. 

No principle involved other than "if they support what I like its awesome" 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @4    9 months ago

Just stop

 
 
 
bugsy
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4.1.1  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    9 months ago
Just stop

He is right

 
 
 
Tacos!
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4.1.2  Tacos!  replied to  bugsy @4.1.1    9 months ago
He is right

He just wove a complete fantasy and then based a fallacious claim on that fever dream. And you say he’s right. Right about what? Make believe bullshit?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.1.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  bugsy @4.1.1    9 months ago

he's trolling

just like you

flag it!

 
 
 
bugsy
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4.1.4  bugsy  replied to  Tacos! @4.1.2    9 months ago
He just wove a complete fantasy and then based a fallacious claim on that fever dream. And you say he’s right. Right about what? Make believe bullshit?

That is a lot to just say..."I can't debunk what he said, so I will just say he made it up".

 
 
 
Tacos!
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4.1.5  Tacos!  replied to  bugsy @4.1.4    9 months ago
That is a lot to just say..."I can't debunk what he said, so I will just say he made it up".

Oy! Basic reading skills are needed. His comment begins "And if...."

That means it's made up. Duh! So there's nothing to debunk. Jeez!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.1.6  Sean Treacy  replied to  Tacos! @4.1.5    9 months ago
So there's nothing to debunk

Of course there is. Haven't you heard of an hypothetical argument? 

someone with basic logic skills can debunk it by accepting the premises for the purposes of debate and showing conclusion doesn't follow. It's very basic stuff.

But since that can't be done, honestly,  you are left with pretending that pointing out an obvious hypothetical argument is, in fact, hypothetical counts as some sort of achievement.  Maybe an idiot will fall for that but everyone else can see what you are doing.  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.1.7  Sean Treacy  replied to  Tacos! @4.1.2    9 months ago

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Tacos!
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4.1.8  Tacos!  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1.6    9 months ago

You made no attempt to support what you call an argument, so again, there is nothing to debunk.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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4.1.9  TᵢG  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1.6    9 months ago
someone with basic logic skills can debunk it by accepting the premises for the purposes of debate and showing conclusion doesn't follow. It's very basic stuff.

You did not do that.   You created a scenario where an Olympian " used his platform to attack the USA " (regardless of political issue).

Your hypothetical does not correlate; in reality, there was no attack.   The athlete literally stated:

"It brings up mixed emotions to represent the U.S. right now I think. It's a little hard. There's obviously a lot going on that I'm not the biggest fan of and I think a lot of people aren't. I think for me, it's more I'm representing my friends and family back home, the people that represented before me, all the things that I believe are good about the U.S ."

...

"Just 'cuz I'm wearing the flag doesn't mean I represent everything that's going on in the U.S. I just kind of want to do it for my friends and my family and the people that supported me getting here."

...

"I just think if it aligns with my moral values, I feel like I'm representing it."

This is an abstract statement noting that there are good and bad things happening in the USA right now (an understatement IMO) and that he is supporting/ representing the good things .

Not even close to an attack.  Your hypothetical is off-track.

Why do you keep trying to defend Trump?

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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4.1.10  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  TᵢG @4.1.9    9 months ago
Not even close to an attack.

Well, we watched these dishonest dipshits claim Good and Pretti were 'attacking' ICE and somehow deserved to die. They clearly don't care about facts or reality, they just state what they want to be true and then just double down on it till they're blue in the face. Accepting what this Olympian actually said would ruin their rightwing crafted narrative, so they have to push the lie. They just can't help themselves.

 
 
 
bugsy
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4.2  bugsy  replied to  Sean Treacy @4    9 months ago
No principle involved other than "if they support what I like its awesome" 

Can you imagine if it was a black athlete that showed nothing but praise for the country AND Trump? The name calling and death threats would be overwhelming.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.2.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  bugsy @4.2    9 months ago

how the FUCK are you any different?!?!?!

You're not! You and all of your MAGA friends wanted Kapernick's head on a goddamned silver platter!

So why don't you and Sean just both shut the fuck up about any of this and go the fuck away

FLAG IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
 
 
bugsy
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4.2.2  bugsy  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.2.1    9 months ago
You and all of your MAGA friends wanted Kapernick's head on a goddamned silver platter!

Show where I said anything about Kapernick. I could not care less about him, and never did.

"o why don't you and Sean just both shut the fuck up about any of this and go the fuck away"

I have often though the same about many leftists, but like me, they have a freedom to post here, no matter how wrong it normally is. 

 
 
 
cjcold
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4.2.3  cjcold  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.2.1    9 months ago

Still remember the 1968 Olympics when Smith and Carlos raised their black gloved hands while standing on the podium while the national anthem played. At that point in time I hadn't even met a black person (small town Kansas). Over the years since have been out into the world and known and befriended many non whites.  Became friends with Bob Marley and his band. Studied martial arts under a Filipino grand Master and lived comfortably with a Japanese lady. So glad to be a citizen of planet Earth.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.3  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @4    9 months ago

It's hard to imagine Barack Obama calling an Olympian a real loser under any circumstances

 
 
 
Tacos!
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4.4  Tacos!  replied to  Sean Treacy @4    9 months ago
if one of the Olympians in 2024 had used his platform to attack the USA  for engaging in race discrimination through DEI programs

Funny how that doesn’t happen.

you'd be up in arms over it

We might be. But a liberal president wouldn’t be. In fact, literally any other president - liberal or conservative - wouldn’t be. Certainly not to the point of calling our athletes “loser.”

Way back in 1968, Tommie Smith and John Carlos raised a Black Power fist on the medal podium. Both President Johnson and Richard Nixon (who was running for president at the time) declined to comment on it.

But then, Trump has also used that word - “loser” - to describe our men and women in the military. And you go right on excusing it.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.4.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Tacos! @4.4    9 months ago
Funny how that doesn’t happen

Why is it funny that conservatives don't attack the country they are representing ? 

In fact, literally any other president - liberal or conservative - wouldn’t be

Okay. So what? Trump says something other Presidents wouldn't. Not the first time.

 “loser” - to describe our men and women in the military

When did he say that? I've never seen a transcript of it. I've seen Dick Durbin and John Kerry, among others, make all sorts of heinous comments about our troops, but never Trump calling them losers. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.4.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.4.1    9 months ago

John Kelly was asked if Trump called American soldiers suckers and losers and he said yes

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.4.3  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.4.1    9 months ago

History will wonder why people like you enabled this nightmare

 
 
 
Split Personality
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4.4.4  Split Personality  replied to  JohnRussell @4.4.2    9 months ago
But in a statement to CNN, Mr Kelly confirmed several details of the story on the record and said the former president was unable to understand why the American public held respect for former prisoners of war and those shot down in combat.

“What can I add that has not already been said?” he said.

“A person that thinks those who defend their country in uniform, or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat, or spend years being tortured as POWs are all ‘suckers’ because ‘there is nothing in it for them.’

“A person that did not want to be seen in the presence of military amputees because ‘it doesn’t look good for me.’

“A person who… rants that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in America’s defense are ‘losers’ and wouldn’t visit their graves in France.

“A person that has no idea what America stands for and has no idea what America is all about. There is nothing more that can be said. God help us.”

Mr Trump has been known for expressing disdain for those who have been captured in combat while serving in the military, having once claimed that the late US Senator John McCain – who was taken as a POW during the Vietnam War was “not a war hero”.

While running for the Republican nomination for president in 2015, Mr Trump discussed Senator McCain’s own unsuccessful run, saying: “He’s not a war hero. He’s a war hero because he got captured.

“I like people who weren’t captured.”

His most recent controversy involving members of the armed forces comes following remarks made on his social media platform Truth Social, in which he suggested that retired Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Mark Milley, should be executed for treason.

In his statement to   CNN,   Mr Kelly also condemned the comments made about Mr Milley, who he described as “a selfless warrior who has served his country for 40 years in peacetime and war”.

His confirmation also tallies with another recent story in   The Atlantic,   a profile of Mr Milley – also by Mr Goldberg – in which Trump reportedly insulted severely wounded Army Captain Luis Avila, saying: “Why do you bring people like that here? No one wants to see that, the wounded.”

The statement by Mr Kelly to   CNN   comes shortly after another former aide to Mr Trump, Cassidy Hutchinson, told the outlet that the former president was “the most grave threat we will face to our democracy in our lifetime, and potentially in American history.”

CNN   said that when they reached out to Mr Trump’s team about the statement, without naming Mr Kelly, it issued a response once again disparaging Mr Milley, who was not involved in their original story.

Trump branded wounded or killed American soldiers ‘suckers’ and ‘losers’, Gen John Kelly confirms | The Independent

CiC Bone Spurs, just doesn't like veterans, but he will gleefully accept any medals as a gift...  /S

 
 
 
Tacos!
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4.4.5  Tacos!  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.4.1    9 months ago
Why is it funny that conservatives don't attack the country they are representing ?

Funny strange. Not funny ha ha. I am UNsurprised that you couldn’t figure that out on your own.

So what?

You are complicit.

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Right Down the Center
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4.4.6  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @4.4.3    9 months ago

History will wonder why the Dems couldn't learn from it and just tried to sell the same old shit.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.4.7  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @4.4.2    9 months ago

When did John  Kelly ever say he heard Trump say that? 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.4.8  Sean Treacy  replied to  Tacos! @4.4.5    9 months ago

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Trout Giggles
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4.4.9  Trout Giggles  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.4.1    9 months ago
've seen Dick Durbin and John Kerry, among others, make all sorts of heinous comments about our troops, but never Trump calling them losers. 

PROVE IT!

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.4.10  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @4.4.3    9 months ago

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Sean Treacy
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4.4.11  Sean Treacy  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.4.10    9 months ago

Removed for context

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.4.12  Sean Treacy  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.4.9    9 months ago

John Kerry and Dick Durbin publicly insulted American troops in Congress on the record. I trust you can find it. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.4.13  Trout Giggles  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.4.11    9 months ago

I don't hate people. 

Unlike many I could name here. Do I mock people? Definitely. But I'm not trying to deny anybody their rights unlike some I could name here

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.4.14  Trout Giggles  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.4.12    9 months ago

fuck that, Sean! You made the claim you fucking back it up!!!!!

 
 
 
TᵢG
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4.4.15  TᵢG  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.4.1    9 months ago

Do you really find it so hard to believe, given that you can watch a video of Trump claiming that McCain was not a war hero because he was captured?   Not a war hero because he was a POW.   And disregarding the fact that McCain refused to be granted release unless his fellow POWs were released.

Why do you defend this POS?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.4.16  Sean Treacy  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.4.13    9 months ago

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Sean Treacy
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4.4.17  Sean Treacy  replied to  TᵢG @4.4.15    9 months ago
o you really find it so hard to believe

The thing is, the last ten years have demonstrated that his political enemies will tell the most outrageous lies about him and justify it with "ends  justify the means" nonsense. So when it comes to what Trump may or may not have said there needs to be more than just an anonymously  sourced quote to a progressive reporter to accept it. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4.4.18  Sparty On  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.4.13    9 months ago

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Sparty On
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4.4.19  Sparty On  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.4.17    9 months ago

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bugsy
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4.4.20  bugsy  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.4.14    9 months ago
ou made the claim you fucking back it up!!!!!

When will you post this to one of the leftists here...especially when they say "look it up yourself", or "google is your friend..use it"?

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4.4.21  Sparty On  replied to  Sparty On @4.4.18    9 months ago

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Split Personality
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4.4.22  Split Personality  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.4.14    9 months ago

Everything has context, especially when the facts can be interpreted one way or the other.

Durban correctly condemned tortures forbidden by numerous treaties that were routinely carried out at The US naval base in Cuba and the horrific prison Abu Gharbi.

However he smeared the Army for being complicit or subordinate to the CIA comparing them to the Nazis. 

Many agreed with his assessment which he tried to walk back a week later 

Likewise Kerry was loudly anti war and reported the atrocities he witnessed in Vietnam. 

The real insult to our troops: Bush

Kerry's handling of his botched joke was pathetic -- but it can't match the president's lethal stupidity in his handling of the Iraq war.

It is indeed advisable in politics to strike fast and hard at aggressive adversaries. But in this instance, it was Kerry’s stumbling aggression that became the issue. He needed to make amends for saying something that sounded offensive to soldiers and veterans, even though he meant no such thing. His reluctance to respond with fluency and grace suggests that wounded pride overruled better judgment.

Still, this overblown episode seems unlikely to change the opinion of even the most foolish and poorly informed citizens. At most, the White House and the congressional leadership have succeeded in arousing the ever-simmering resentments of their base — and, of course, giving   compliant journalists   an excuse to bash Democrats again.

The real insult to our troops: Bush - Salon.com

Kerry correctly criticized American policies in Vietnam and Iraq. there are those that concur and vow to never let it happen again

and those who believe, my country, right or wrong, still my country; the kind who sign up for ICE employment.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.4.23  Trout Giggles  replied to  Split Personality @4.4.22    9 months ago

thanks for doing my "homework" for me

 
 
 
cjcold
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4.4.24  cjcold  replied to  Tacos! @4.4.5    9 months ago

How sad that far right wing fascism under Trump is now coming to America. In Germany the Germans were surprised when Hitler did the same thing.

 
 
 
bugsy
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4.4.25  bugsy  replied to  cjcold @4.4.24    9 months ago

Can you point out ANYTHING that is fascist in this country?

Be careful what you post because it is well known that when a leftist accuses someone on the right of something, you can be assured that left has either already done or is doing the same now. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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4.4.26  TᵢG  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.4.17    9 months ago
The thing is, the last ten years have demonstrated that his political enemies will tell the most outrageous lies about him and justify it with "ends  justify the means" nonsense. So when it comes to what Trump may or may not have said there needs to be more than just an anonymously  sourced quote to a progressive reporter to accept it. 

I would not object to anyone defending Trump against an unfair / dishonest criticism.

It is the irrational and often ridiculous defense of Trump against valid criticism that is objectionable.

Surely you recognize that Trump opponents do not need to make up shit about Trump;  that valid criticism of Trump is (sadly) easy to formulate.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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4.5  TᵢG  replied to  Sean Treacy @4    9 months ago

You think any other PotUS would opine and insult an athlete?   Trump is so far off the rails that pathetic, predictable claims that the other side is just as bad are beyond ridiculous.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4.5.1  Sparty On  replied to  TᵢG @4.5    9 months ago
You think any other PotUS would opine and insult an athlete?

Absolutely but most are pure politicians, who simply do it behind their backs and lie about it for convenience.     Triggered folks on the left always talk about how much Trump lies.    He’s nothing like a liar politician.    Smiling, shaking your hand while they are pissing on your shoes.

I disagree with much Trump says and does but he usually says what he is thinking.    No politician filter like most career politician liars.  None.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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4.5.2  TᵢG  replied to  Sparty On @4.5.1    9 months ago
Absolutely but most are pure politicians, who simply do it behind their backs and lie about it for convenience.

The public rhetoric is what we are talking about.   

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4.5.3  Sparty On  replied to  TᵢG @4.5.2    9 months ago

The lying behind your back is what I’m talking about. The dishonest, sneaking, sniveling, pond scum sucking human beings who make it a habit of lying like that.

At least Public comments are made to your face.[✘]

 
 
 
TᵢG
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4.5.4  TᵢG  replied to  Sparty On @4.5.3    9 months ago
The lying behind your back is what I’m talking about.  

Yes I know that you ignored the point and then pointed out the obvious that politicians can be complete assholes in private.  

Interesting that you seem to prefer Liars instead.

A childish taunt.


The point:

You think any other PotUS would opine and insult an athlete?   Trump is so far off the rails that pathetic, predictable claims that the other side is just as bad are beyond ridiculous.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.5.5  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sparty On @4.5.1    9 months ago
he usually says what he is thinking.

Thats 90% of the problem. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.5.6  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.5.5    9 months ago

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cjcold
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4.5.7  cjcold  replied to  Sparty On @4.5.1    9 months ago

Trump is the worst liar ever. He lies when the truth might serve him better. He lies because he grew up lying and knows nothing else.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.5.8  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  cjcold @4.5.7    9 months ago

Lying has made him rich. He will deal with going to hell when the time comes. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4.5.9  Sparty On  replied to  TᵢG @4.5.4    9 months ago
Yes I know that you ignored the point and then pointed out the obvious that politicians can be complete assholes in private.

I’m not ignoring anything but I do understand how my point is very inconvenient to the narrative you are pushing

Interesting that you seem to prefer Liars instead.
A childish taunt.

As usual, right back at ya.


The point:

You think any other PotUS would opine and insult an athlete?   Trump is so far off the rails that pathetic, predictable claims that the other side is just as bad are beyond ridiculous.

Yes, yes I do.    Now to the real point, most usually won’t because of a finely tuned politicians filter.    That is, they will lie and lie some more.    Do I believe there are other POTUS that felt like insulting certain athletes?   Absolutely.    It’s the epitome of ignorance to believe this is not the case.    But they keep their mouths shut and remain dishonest about it.   100% politician …..

Trump has no such filter.    He says what he thinks.    And it pisses a lot of people off.    Refreshingly at times.

That said as I watch the Olympics I am struck by how many of them are just happy and proud to be representing their country.    The few speak who politics perhaps should reconsider representing the USA in the future.    You know, if doing so causes them so much consternation.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4.5.10  Sparty On  replied to  cjcold @4.5.7    9 months ago

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Sparty On
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4.5.11  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @4.5.5    9 months ago

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Right Down the Center
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4.5.12  Right Down the Center  replied to  Sparty On @4.5.9    9 months ago
Trump has no such filter.    He says what he thinks.    And it pisses a lot of people off.    Refreshingly at times.Trump has no such filter.    He says what he thinks.    And it pisses a lot of people off.    Refreshingly at times.

Interesting how so many on the left would rather not know what a politician is thinking than have a president with no real filter.  While he can make an ass of himself at least he is not trying to hide what he thinks.  

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4.5.13  Sparty On  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.5.12    9 months ago
While he can make an ass of himself at least he is not trying to hide what he thinks.  

Exactly.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
4.5.14  TᵢG  replied to  Sparty On @4.5.9    9 months ago
I’m not ignoring anything but I do understand how my point is very inconvenient to the narrative you are pushing

There is no narrative.  I raised an obvious point:

TiG@4.5 ☞ You think any other PotUS would opine and insult an athlete?   Trump is so far off the rails that pathetic, predictable claims that the other side is just as bad are beyond ridiculous.

You continue to ignore the point and pursue a strawman.   

Show me any other PotUS in our history who gratuitously, publicly insulted a US Olympian.   Calling them a 'loser' or equivalent.

You cannot.   All you can do is deflect with a strawman.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4.5.15  Sparty On  replied to  TᵢG @4.5.14    9 months ago

Denial is not a defense.    Not in most places …..

Once again, no more need be said, as I stand by everything I’ve already said.

Have a nice day!

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
4.5.16  TᵢG  replied to  Sparty On @4.5.15    9 months ago

Again you use the same lame tactic.

There has been no PotUS in US history who has publicly insulted a US Olympian except for the guy you support.   No other PotUS who is so unpresidential and who so poorly represents our nation.   Trump is pathetic.   How can you possibly still support this buffoon?

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4.5.17  Sparty On  replied to  TᵢG @4.5.16    9 months ago
Again you use the same lame tactic.

Right back at ya.

In the meantime #4.5.9 and other posts of mine here stand on their own.    Regardless of your opinions.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
4.5.18  TᵢG  replied to  Sparty On @4.5.17    9 months ago

There has been no PotUS in US history who has publicly insulted a US Olympian except for the guy you support.   No other PotUS who is so unpresidential and who so poorly represents our nation.   Trump is pathetic.   How can you possibly still support this buffoon?

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Guide
4.5.19  Sparty On  replied to  TᵢG @4.5.18    9 months ago

What’s pathetic is how partisans take things like this nuclear only because Trump did it.    So any an Olympian went political and Trump called him out for it.    Boo hoo, squirt a few.    

Last thing I’ll be losing sleep over ….

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
4.5.20  TᵢG  replied to  Sparty On @4.5.19    9 months ago

Again you argue a fantasy rather than honestly deal with the point.

Trump is not criticized here because he is Trump, he is criticized because of what he stated in public as PotUS.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4.5.21  Sparty On  replied to  TᵢG @4.5.20    9 months ago

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Krishna
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4.6  Krishna  replied to  Sean Treacy @4    9 months ago

And if one of the Olympians in 2024 had . . .

If,,,if,,,IF,,,!!!

There's an old saying:

If my.grandmother had a wheel and two handles, she'd be a wheelbarrow!

 
 
 
Tacos!
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5  Tacos!    9 months ago

Apparently, the ignorance of MAGA, and their ability to completely melt down like snowflakes over something that wasn’t said, or didn’t happen is infinite.

"U.S. Olympic Skier, Hunter Hess, a real Loser, says he doesn't represent his Country in the current Winter Olympics.

That’s literally not what he said. Doesn’t matter though. Trump and MAGA are going to freak out anyway.

This is not the first time that MAGA have decided to take a collective shit on an Olympic athlete. It probably won’t be the last. Just ask Tommie Smith, Simone Biles, Gwendolyn Berry, the 2021 women’s soccer team, the 2021 men’s basketball team.

In the fascist state, any person who criticizes some aspect of the country - no matter how limited that criticism - is attacked as hating the whole country.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Tacos! @5    9 months ago

Trump is destroying the character of our people

 
 
 
Gsquared
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5.1.1  Gsquared  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1    9 months ago

And he has accomplices, dupes and defenders, as well as foreign bad actor allies.  It's a very problematic situation

 
 
 
cjcold
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5.1.2  cjcold  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1    9 months ago

Only some of the people. Those who live by Fox news. Only those who are fascists.

 
 
 
Krishna
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5.1.3  Krishna  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1    9 months ago

Trump is destroying the character of our people

Trump is destroying the character of some of our people.

(There, fixed that for you )

 
 
 
Split Personality
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6  Split Personality    9 months ago

Best Super Bowl half time show I have seen in years, in fact none were memorable enough to remember.

Americans celebrating America in a huge party.  Gaga slipped in a song and Ricky Martin belted out a great song.  The rest was a great dance party

with a shot about Latino power and the fact that the grid in PR remains in shambles since 2017 and the corrective measures that Biden tried to get going with solar and wind

were promptly crushed by the new Administration.

US warns Puerto Rico about power generation ahead of Trump | USA Solar Cell

Trump administration scraps solar projects in Puerto Rico as power grid crumbles - Anchorage Daily News

Energy Department cancels millions of solar funding for Puerto Rico

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Split Personality @6    9 months ago

Trump posted a rather long negative review with the same old usual crap - Bad Bunny is a no talent loser un American blah blah blah. He also said that the dancing was not appropriate for family viewing  -  he should watch some of his own press conferences

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1    9 months ago

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Tacos!
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6.1.2  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1.1    9 months ago

I guess this means he wasn’t watching the alternative Kid Rock halftime show for MAGA snowflakes.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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6.1.3  Split Personality  replied to  Tacos! @6.1.2    9 months ago

I heard that the alternative found 5.5 million viewers on You Tube.

The SuperBowl had 134Million plus, just at half time.

A clear winner.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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6.1.4  Sparty On  replied to  Split Personality @6.1.3    9 months ago

lol, I suppose you think most who watched the SB also watched either halftime show.    You would be very wrong if you did.    Gotta put someone up there who puts on a good show to grab my interest like Prince, Bruce Springsteen or maybe Beyonce.

I did watch a little of it.    Must admit.    What I saw was a nice butt wiggling contest!

 
 
 
Tacos!
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6.1.5  Tacos!  replied to  Split Personality @6.1.3    9 months ago

Yeah, but it’s still sad that 5 million are so relentlessly racist that they couldn’t bear to watch the actual halftime show.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
6.1.6  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Tacos! @6.1.5    9 months ago

There are a lot more than 5 million racists in America

 
 
 
Split Personality
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6.1.7  Split Personality  replied to  Sparty On @6.1.4    9 months ago
lol, I suppose you think most who watched the SB also watched either halftime show. You would be very wrong if you did.

Good grief, give it a rest.

The numbers won't be out for a few days or weeks and as usual some elements will celebrate or deny them based on ideology.

The overwhelming majority did not change the channel.  Millions tuned in just to watch the half time show or just to see Bad Bunny.

5.5 to 6.1 million found the you tube channel for the MAGA alternate.

The NFL, the teams and the sponsors could care less. the MAGA  crowd returned to watch the advertisements and another decent foot ball game like last year.

Funny thing about last year during the Eagles games, no one remembers the lame half time show.

People will remember this one and put it up there with Beonce, Prince, Springsteen, McCarthy and Jay Lo/Shakira. 

That being said there nothing like graduation day at PI, every one an unforgettable memory.

 
 
 
JBB
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6.1.8  JBB  replied to  Split Personality @6.1.7    9 months ago

original

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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6.1.9  Trout Giggles  replied to  Split Personality @6.1.3    9 months ago

I heard that the alternative was taped and wasn't live

 
 
 
Sparty On
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6.1.10  Sparty On  replied to  Split Personality @6.1.7    9 months ago
People will remember this one and put it up there with Beonce, Prince, Springsteen, McCarthy and Jay Lo/Shakira. 

Yeah, they’ll remember it alright but not because it was as good a show as those.    Only because it was controversial but the again so was Colin Kaepernick.    You see how that worked out for him.

So about 6 million people who were watching the SB, stopped watching the SB, did what it took to find and watch the alternate halftime show.    A nearly unprecedented number for a streaming event like this, leaving one popular event for another.

How many of that 130+ million viewers left other shows to watch the Bad Bunny SB halftime show?    And then returned to the other show they were watching.    Doubtful that many.   Well maybe some triggered fools but that’s about it.

Oh and graduation day is quite nice at Q town as well.   Especially when marching in it.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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6.1.11  Split Personality  replied to  Sparty On @6.1.10    9 months ago

Good grief, do you ever read what I write or do you just Assume?

 
 
 
Split Personality
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6.1.12  Split Personality  replied to  Trout Giggles @6.1.9    9 months ago

Not only was it taped, it proves that either Kid Rock doesn't know how to lip synchronize or he can magically sing with his mouth closed.

It looked rushed, poorly organized and edited.  At least one late fill in performer said he wasn't aware that his taped songs would be on the alternate half time show.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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6.1.13  Sparty On  replied to  Split Personality @6.1.11    9 months ago

Great googlie mooglies …. Yes I do.    Do you?

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
6.2  cjcold  replied to  Split Personality @6    9 months ago

Tom Petty?

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
6.2.1  cjcold  replied to  cjcold @6.2    9 months ago

From 2005 to 2010 the best of the best played the super bowl.

 
 
 
cjcold
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6.2.2  cjcold  replied to  cjcold @6.2.1    9 months ago

And then it got bad.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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7  Right Down the Center    9 months ago

There is a time and a place for everything.  IMO the Olympics should remain out of any political statements.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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7.1  Tacos!  replied to  Right Down the Center @7    9 months ago
IMO the Olympics should remain out of any political statements.

The Olympics IS a political statement. The original concept of the games was that nations who are often at war with one another, come together in peace and compete in friendly sports games. The Olympics is most fundamentally Peace activism.

The official mission of the Olympics is to promote Olympism. That sounds circular, but Olympism is defined thus:

to place sport at the service of humanity and thereby to promote peace

So it’s not just a big track meet or ski competition. The Olympics has a social and political mission. At various times in their history, the Olympics have banned several countries for political reasons.

1920: Germany, Austria, Hungary, Bulgaria, and Turkey were banned for their role in WWI.

1948: Germany and Japan were banned for WWII.

1964-1992: South Africa was banned for apartheid.

1968-1976: Rhodesia banned for apartheid.

2000: Afghanistan banned for Taliban treatment of women.

2024-2026: Russia and Belarus banned for invading Ukraine.

In other words, the Olympics is Woke AF. So, a little political speech now and then at the Olympics is entirely appropriate.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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7.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Tacos! @7.1    9 months ago

Didn't the US boycott the Olympics when the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan?

I'll go look it up before I get banned

The United States led the 1980 Summer Olympics boycott to protest against the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan . More than 60 countries joined the boycott to varying degrees, [ 1 ] affecting athletes, fans, and international relations. The absence of so many competitors changed the outcomes of some events, led to alternative competitions, and influenced the 1984 Olympics, which the Soviets later boycotted. [ 2 ] The Soviet Union , which hosted the 1980 Summer Olympics in Moscow, and its satellite states later boycotted the 1984 Summer Olympics in Los Angeles .
 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
7.1.2  Tacos!  replied to  Trout Giggles @7.1.1    9 months ago
Didn't the US boycott the Olympics when the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan?

Yeah, and then, as you see, the USSR boycotted the 1984 Los Angeles games in retaliation. What probably should have happened was the IOC should have given the 1980 games to someone else, but those things are hard to set up on short notice.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Professor Quiet
7.1.3  Jack_TX  replied to  Tacos! @7.1    9 months ago
The original concept of the games was that nations who are often at war with one another, come together in peace and compete in friendly sports games. The Olympics is most fundamentally Peace activism.

Yes.  By putting politics aside.

In other words, the Olympics is Woke AF.

That's nonsense.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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7.1.4  Tacos!  replied to  Jack_TX @7.1.3    9 months ago

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Sparty On
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8  Sparty On    9 months ago
"Just because I'm wearing the flag doesn't mean I represent everything that's going on in the U.S,"

Really?     Thank you Captain Obvious.    

Can’t believe I never made that connection.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
9  Bob Nelson    9 months ago
When asked what it meant to represent the U.S. at the Milan Cortina games, Hess, 27, told Reuters, "It's a little hard. There's obviously a lot going on that I'm not the biggest fan of, and I think a lot of people aren't."

"Just because I'm wearing the flag doesn't mean I represent everything that's going on in the U.S," he added.

The Bend, Oregon, native went on to say that he was instead representing "all the things I believe are good about the U.S."

An hororable, dignified, diplomatic statement. No wonder it drives Trump crazy. It's everything he is incapable of.

 
 

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