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UNITED States President Lowered The Nations Flags For Charlie Kirk But Not Jesse Jackson

  
By:  John Russell  •  9 months ago  •  46 comments


UNITED States President Lowered The Nations Flags For Charlie Kirk But Not Jesse Jackson
 

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It cant be over religion, Jackson was a minister. 

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Flags at Half-Staff for Kirk but Not Jackson Highlight National Divide

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Jackson died on February 17, 2026, after years with Parkinson's; Trump called him a 'force of nature' and 'real hero' but did not direct federal flags to half-staff, though states like Illinois and New York did. In contrast, Trump immediately ordered nationwide flags lowered after conservative activist Charlie Kirk, 32, was assassinated during a speech in September 2025. Critics see the difference as revealing priorities, while defenders note Kirk's sudden death versus Jackson's long life; Jackson's family also faced denial for a Capitol lying in honor.


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JohnRussell
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1  author  JohnRussell    9 months ago

It must have been a simple oversight. /s

 
 
 
Thomas
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1.1  Thomas  replied to  JohnRussell @1    9 months ago

No. It's right on plan.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Thomas @1.1    9 months ago

Hopefully Jackson will remain a far more notable figure in history than Charlie Kirk. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  JohnRussell @1    9 months ago
"Flags at Half-Staff for Kirk but Not Jackson Highlight National Divide"

AND Trump's personal prejudices.

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
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1.3  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  JohnRussell @1    9 months ago

The Adjudicated RAPIST is also a BIG FAT RACIST!

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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1.4  1stwarrior  replied to  JohnRussell @1    9 months ago

Could be because one was assassinated while promoting the U.S. and the other died from old age and Parkinson disease.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.4.1  Split Personality  replied to  1stwarrior @1.4    9 months ago
and the other died from old age and Parkinson disease.

After promoting Civil Rights for all, regardless of race, for his adult life, hence the "Rainbow Coalition".

 
 
 
CB
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2  CB    9 months ago

Well, you know, MAGA supporters have no affection whatsoever for civil rights and social justice warriors. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3  Split Personality    9 months ago
Rev.   Jesse   Jackson,   civil   rights   leader,   Baptist   minister,   and   two-time   presidential   candidate,   died   at   age   84,   leaving   a   profound   legacy   in   American   social   and   political   life.

Civil   Rights   Activism

Political   Career

Mixed feelings about his being denied the opportunity to lie in honor at the Capital but the Rev Billy Graham was allowed with fewer accomplishments due to racism and of course graham was white and died during the first trump Administraton.

Billy Graham Lays in Honor at the U.S. Capitol

The Rev.   Billy Graham , the famed Baptist evangelist who died on February 21, 2018, at age 99, was honored with a   daylong lying-in-honor ceremony in the U.S. Capitol Rotunda   from February 28 to 29, 2018   TIME +1 . This rare distinction recognized his extraordinary contributions to American life and global evangelism.

Significance of the Honor

Lying in honor is reserved for   private citizens   and is distinct from lying in state, which is for elected officials and military leaders. Graham was the   fourth private citizen   to receive this honor, following civil rights icon   Rosa Parks   (2005) and two Capitol Police officers killed in the line of duty (1998)   TIME +1 . The ceremony used the same wooden catafalque built to display Abraham Lincoln’s coffin in 1865   TIME .

Moreover, Jackson took less and gave more, his net worth is estimated to be $4million;  a fraction  of Grahams estate at the age of 99 estimated to be over $25million..

 
 
 
CB
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3.1  CB  replied to  Split Personality @3    9 months ago

Bigotry, racism, prejudices - all against people is a Sin! 

MAGA supporters better check which God they have latched themselves onto, because it ain't Jesus and/or the God of the Bible.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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3.1.1  Ozzwald  replied to  CB @3.1    9 months ago
because it ain't Jesus and/or the God of the Bible.

Closer to the god of the old testament.  Jealous, vindictive, angry, misogynistic, war-like, and petulant.

 
 
 
CB
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3.1.2  CB  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1.1    9 months ago

And yet I know of no MAGA supporter (here or elsewhere) claiming to be an "Old Testament-Jew." They are by and large Christian "Nationalists" that are failing the test of Faith!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @3    9 months ago

I tend to remember him for this:

"The Rev. Jesse Jackson admitted to a Jewish audience here last night that he had indeed made insulting references to Jews last month but insisted that neither he nor his remarks could be “remotely construed as being anti-Semitic or anti-Israel.”

Jackson, who is seeking the Democratic Party’s Presidential nomination, spoke to an overflow crowd at Temple Adath Yeshurun on the eve of the New Hampshire primaries. He said he had used the word “Hymietown” to refer to Jews and “Hymietown” as a description of New York City in what he said was a private conversation with a Washington Post reporter at the National Airport near Washington, D.C. on January 25.

The slur was reported last week in the Post and in the general media nationally, but Jackson had maintained up to now that he had “no recollection” of having said those words. He made his latest denial during a nationally televised debate with seven other Democratic Presidential aspirants here last Thursday night when the question was put to him by moderator Barbara Walters."

Jackson Admits Making Ethnic Slur - Jewish Telegraphic Agency



And my favorite:

“There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps... then turn around and see somebody white and feel relieved.”
Quote by Jesse Jackson: “There is nothing more painful to me at this sta...”


 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.2.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2    9 months ago

Jackson deserved to have the flags lowered a lot more than Charlie Kirk did

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.2.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2    9 months ago

who cares? Like you all came down hard on us for dissing Kirk after he died you're just as bad as you said we were

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.2.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.1    9 months ago

Why?

Kirk was assassinated for promoting free speech.

Jackson did what exactly?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.2.4  Vic Eldred  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.2.2    9 months ago
Like you all came down hard on us for dissing Kirk after he died you're just as bad as you said we were

So, I am supposed to live up to the ancient principal of De   mortuis   nil   nisi   bonum   dicendum   est , and you got to smear Kirk?  Not when you try to lionize the people you like. All I'm doing is posting the things that Jackson said.

We have a few Jews on this site. I'm waiting to hear what they think about Jackson calling NYC “Hymietown.” I think it is a fair question.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.2.5  Trout Giggles  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2.4    9 months ago

Then why don't you actually ask the Jewish members of this site instead of being so goddamned snide?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.2.6  Vic Eldred  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.2.5    9 months ago
Then why don't you actually ask the Jewish members

I just did.

How about you. What are your thoughts on those remarks?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.2.7  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2.3    9 months ago
Kirk was assassinated for promoting free speech.

I don't believe even conservatives think that's why he was assassinated

by any measure Jesse Jackson was a more significant historical figure then Charlie Kirk

Trump was just being his asshole self

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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3.2.8  Jack_TX  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.7    9 months ago
I don't believe even conservatives think that's why he was assassinated

He was assassinated because a person with severe mental illness sought to silence people who disagree.

The assassination was celebrated because that psychosis is actually widespread.

 
 
 
CB
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3.2.9  CB  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2.4    9 months ago

Whatever the Jews on this site feel about Jessie Jackson's remark was highly probably better 'served' in 1984. . . and likely will have no effect in 2026 the year of his death. Lots of years in between '84 and '26. . . and Jessie has died. 

And oh yeah, I am pretty sure Jews (on this site) have heard worse about themselves. . . because like Jesse and me the negativity presented against blacks as a people has spanned centuries. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.2.10  Split Personality  replied to  CB @3.2.9    9 months ago

Oh I love the controversy, Trump lowered the flag for a white far-right Trump licking antisemite

but Trump refused to lower the flag for a black antisemite who happened to run for President twice and Johnson refused to let him lie in honor at the Capitol.

Black people everywhere are thinking nothing, I mean nothing has changed.

 
 
 
CB
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3.2.11  CB  replied to  Split Personality @3.2.10    9 months ago

Yes, the racist, bigoted, prejudiced types are back in power. . .and it is not shocking what rhetoric they are saying and what actions they choose to do!

 
 
 
MrFrost
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3.2.12  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2.3    9 months ago
Kirk was assassinated for promoting free speech.

Um, no... LOL

 
 
 
MrFrost
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3.2.13  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2.3    9 months ago
Kirk was assassinated for promoting free speech.

No, he was a bottom feeding POS. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.2.14  Vic Eldred  replied to  CB @3.2.9    9 months ago
Whatever the Jews on this site feel about Jessie Jackson's remark was highly probably better 'served' in 1984

Oh, I see.


And oh yeah, I am pretty sure Jews (on this site) have heard worse about themselves. 

Worse than being called disparaging names? Then it makes it Ok?


 because like Jesse and me the negativity presented against blacks as a people has spanned centuries. 

No worries. I knew they wouldn't comment. They never look left for antisemitism.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.2.15  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @3.2.10    9 months ago
Trump lowered the flag for a white far-right Trump licking antisemite

Of course that is a damned lie.


I mean mothing has changed.

wha?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.2.16  Vic Eldred  replied to  CB @3.2.11    9 months ago
Yes, the racist, bigoted, prejudiced types are back in power.

No, I think rioted in 2020.

 
 
 
CB
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3.2.17  CB  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2.14    9 months ago
No worries. I knew [the Jews on this site] wouldn't comment. They never look left for antisemitism.

Do not bother with MAGA psychological 'whining.' 

Unfortunately, in this country, Jews and minority groups, plural, are well experienced with receiving insults, injuries, and deaths. . . . They do not need to be told (or trained) when to be offended!

Pulling up an unfortunate statement from the past  (1984) and judging a man who has a lifetime of civil rights work before and behind him (now deceased) as the existential thing to judge him by. . . simply is partisan politics and denies the 'body' of work and accomplishments of a civil rights icon. 

It will not. . . it can not succeed. Especially among an audience of people, the Jewish people, 'familiar' with pain and suffering, conflicts, and wars spanning their time as a people.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
3.2.18  CB  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2.16    9 months ago

Racism is a major Sin. It is not God's best! Christians should check their holy book. . . they will not find themselves well-represented there. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.2.19  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2.15    9 months ago
Of course that is a damned lie.

No it is not, Trump lowered the flags for Charlie Kirk a rather insignificant self proclaimed promoter of free hate speech who was dead broke until he signed up to spread Trump propaganda and get paid handsomely for it.  Another American success story who used the rules to his advantage ,making anti semitic remarks about individuals and groups while defending Israel's "right" to commit genocide.

wha?

Well, congratulate yourself a hundred times for finding a typo, jrSmiley_84_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.2.20  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2.14    9 months ago
I knew they wouldn't comment. They never look left for antisemitism.

Bias confirmation?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.2.21  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @3.2.20    9 months ago
Bias confirmation?

Nope.

Did you see them show up?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4  Trout Giggles    9 months ago

The Reverend Jackson deserved the lowering of the flags more than Kirk. Jackson did things for this country. Kirk divided it

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Trout Giggles @4    9 months ago
Jackson did things for this country. Kirk divided it

Now that's funny. 

 
 
 
bugsy
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4.1.1  bugsy  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1    9 months ago
Now that's funny. 

Yea , it was

Most leftists believed "come to the Capitol peacefully and patriotically" was trying to overthrow the government and an election,

and now asking people to sit down with you so you can talk out your differences and maybe come up with some sort of agreement is "dividing" the country,.

I guess most liberals believe someone trying to talk to them outside of their bubble can be intimidating and dividing to them. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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5  Sean Treacy    9 months ago

I didn't realize Jesse Jackson was murdered for speaking his views.  Who killed him?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @5    9 months ago
I didn't realize Jesse Jackson was murdered for speaking his views.  Who killed him?

Getting murdered is not a requirement for having the flags fly half staff. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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5.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1    9 months ago

Do you think the fact that he was brutally murdered for exercising his first amendment rights was an important part of why flags were lowered to half mast? 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1.2  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.1.1    9 months ago

Nope. It was done because he was a far right icon. 

 
 
 
CB
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5.1.3  CB  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.2    9 months ago

Translation: Trump wanted to do it, because he respects Charlie Kirk (Deceased.). Trump says he was a friend of Jesse Jackson 'back in the day (1980s). We will see what that means when it matters today. . . . 

Here is Mr. Jackson doing what he 'do' (did) in 1963:

"I am somebody!" - Historical footage of Rev. Jesse Jackson leading a crowd in a chant of solidarity

 
 
 
bugsy
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5.1.4  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.2    9 months ago

‘It was done because he was a far right icon. ’

OK so he was murdered because he was an ‘icon’.

Do you think far left icons deserve to be assassinated for the same ‘reasoning’ you use?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1.5  author  JohnRussell  replied to  bugsy @5.1.4    9 months ago

keep your idiotic garbage to yourself

 
 
 
bugsy
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5.1.6  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.5    9 months ago
keep your idiotic garbage to yourself

So you get busted for your hypocrisy once again.

Care to debate it?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  Sean Treacy @5    9 months ago

He didn't.  It is just some on the lefts whine dejour

 
 

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