DOJ indicts James Comey again amid probe tied to '86 47' shell post
By: Greg Wehner (Fox News)
Former FBI Director James Comey has been indicted for a second time by the Justice Department, multiple sources told Fox News. The charges appear to be in relation to a May 2025 Instagram photo of an "86 47" shell formation on a beach.
While the specific counts were not immediately clear, the indictment follows a wave of criticism from Republicans and Trump administration officials who viewed the post as a veiled threat.
In the slang often used in the service industry, to "86" something means to eject, cancel or get rid of it. Donald Trump is currently the 47th president of the United States.
Comey removed the post the same day it was uploaded, claiming he had misinterpreted the shells as a general political message.
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This is what happens when we have a mentally ill lunatic running our governmenmt.
This is what happens when mentally ill lunatics elect a self-absorbed shallow accused pedophile and convicted felon narcissist as President and then have people with no self-respect or ethics compete to win that Presidents favor.
This is directly from Merriam Websters dictionary
Todd Blanche is speaking now, and he is a total disgrace to this country.
He claims there has been a year long investigation. Its fucking ridiculous.
He's most likely correct. However the investigation was a fishing trip to try and find something, anything, to investigate.
and this is all they could come up with? Expect Trumps approval rating to drop another point or two if this ever goes to court.
This is NEVER going to court beyond a dismissal hearing. NEVER.
The only reason for this indictment is to harass and intimidate Comey, and to get Blanche appointed Attorney General.
Unless it goes in front of judge Aileen Cannon. She will allow the Trump DOJ to retroactively change the definition of "86" to meet their needs.
This is a level of Stupid that should be embarrassing to the people pushing it.
Worst DOJ ever.
Didn't Trump say Liz Cheney should be executed? Indictment time!
Oh, hell! He's called for the execution of Democrats!
Lock him up!
He also threatened Hillary by inferring the people who love their 2nd amendment rights would "take care of her" for him.
If anyone needs further proof how pathetically sick the Trumpist regime is, this is it.
Exactly
This is a pathetically desperate attempt to appease a pathetically sick 'leader'.
We now have a government of Trump, by Trump, for Trump. And Lincoln is rolling over in his grave.
The Party of Law & Order has been reduced to a funny internet meme. The Peace President started a war. The guy who ran his campaign on kitchen table finances promising to lower costs will see $5 per gallon gas in days. ...and yet we get the same gaslighting everyday telling us he's a hero and we're all just bitter.
the gas lighters can kiss my ass
i don't trust any of them that close to me. LOL!
now he wants his mug shot on my passport.
Reason number 8,647.
This is a stupid indictment that should never have been made. I suspect it will be quickly tossed on First Amendment rights.
I agree with ya.
So, can we expect to see charges against Trump for retweeting an image of Biden bound and gagged ? For saying there would be death and destruction if he were indicted in New York? For threatening to destroy an entire civilization ? For telling thousands of people to go fight the government to overturn an election? For saying Liz Cheney should face gunfire ? For telling people at his rallies to attack hecklers?
Remember this one?
Not that anyone should be surprised at the MASSIVE hypocrisy from rightwing conservatives, that seems to be their brand now I suppose.
Same mentality as the trump indictment in New York. Funny to see those who opened Pandora’s box whine about this.
How is indicting, prosecuting and convicting Trump of multiple felonies that still stand because they were valid charges that he was proven guilty of, "opening Pandoras box"? No amount of tired sad little Trump toe suckers desperate to prove their loyalty to their master whining about how unfair the world is to him is going to change the fact that Trump, unlike James Comey, is a convicted felon. Anyone who voted for and supports Trump voted for and supports a convicted felon. That's a fact. If he didn't have a bunch of brain-dead meat bag bigots licking his feet, groveling before him and empowering him, he wouldn't even be allowed to own a gun let alone have the nuclear codes. It is really getting hard to watch the groveling by the way.
Currently watching the press conference with the DOH and AG which is FUCKING HILARIOUS! OMG These guys are trying to act serious but know this is going to come back and get thrown in their fucking faces. It's like they all had the look of hogs going to slaughter because they know their careers are pretty much over after this joke of an indictment is thrown out and pissy pants Trump baby screams for heads to roll. It's like watching a low budget clown circus every day with this administration. How any patriotic American can support this joke of a President and a joke of an administration is beyond anyone with more than half a brain. What a shit show.
give him a gun and he'll shoot his other ear off
I'd trust this monkey with a gun long before I would trust Trump with one. He's clearly smarter, better looking and in far better physical health than that loser the sad lonely white nationalist incels worship.
That comment is scrounging for relevance. It's not finding any.
To those who whined about Trump's justifiable indictments for his attempt to steal the 2020 election and his obstruction in the return of classified documents, this is what genuine lawfare looks like.
I was walking along the beach, and I said to my wife what's that? I wonder what it means. So, I took a picture of it and posted it on Instagram.
What a believable story. / S
From the same guy who chuckled and said I knew they wouldn't be prepared, so I sent a couple of guys over and before ya know it, we decided that Michael Flynn was lying to us. The same guy that violated FBI rules and kept private memos, leaked questionable information, lied to the President and testified before congress that he couldn't remember only about 3 dozen times.
Once again, he seems confident that a DC jury would never convict him. I have to agree, but at the very least he will again have to pay legal expenses and worry just a little bit, and for that I'm happy.
It doesn't have to be believable, he could have said, "Yeah, I saw some rocks, so I put them together to say "86 47" because I want to get that slimy fucking piece of shit President out of office". Only dumb fucks are stupid enough to think he meant that as some message to kill the President. That is the most laughable bullshit I've seen coming from this administration and that is saying something because everything they do shows they are nothing but a clown show dumpster fire and that would be just laughable if it wasn't so fucking serious. We need to 86 47 right fucking now, and I mean 86 as it was originally meant, to junk, to get rid of, to throw away, to discard. Claiming Comey was trying to incite violence is just so fucking stupid there is simply no way the charges don't get thrown out of court just like this stupid fucking president and his cadre of losers should be thrown out of the Whitehouse.
The clown Todd Blanche was asked if right wing activist Jack Posobiec would now be indicted for having put 86 46 on his social media in 2022. Not surprisingly Blanche said the two cases are not the same.
They should ask if they plan on indicting Matt Blevins for quoting Thomas Jefferson's watering the tree of liberty if Hillary Clinton won in 2016.
This was a blatant and direct call to violence. Where's his arrest warrant?
I'm willing to bet just about everyone here has walked the beach at some point during their lives. I'm also willing to bet that none has come across a group of painted shells in the sand arranged to send a political message.
We seem to have only one person who walks along the beach as a sort of Socrates Jr wondering aloud about what a shell formation means, then posts it for the world to see to taunt the President he once tried to remove.
All too obvious with the left as usual trying to defend it.
Ok, try and convict him for taunting then.
Are you sure the object is a conviction?
He will again have to spend money on a legal defense, but others will now be more careful with their rhetoric.
Let's just call it deterrance.
what makes you think he's going to have to spend a lot of money on his defense?
beyond that you are admitting that it is a frivolous charge
Lawyers are not cheap. This is his second go around.
beyond that you are admitting that it is a frivolous charge
It can go either way. It's close, but it was made public right after a third attempt on the President's life. Assuming that the charge is a bit of a stretch, let us remember all that Comey did and got away with. Remember this: In 1936 Charles (Lucky) Luciano was indicted, tried, and convicted of prostitution. It was all fake because NY DA Dewey wanted to win a big case and run for President. But think of all the real crimes Luciano got away with.
Feel better?
Let's just call it what it is, a perversion of the justice system. Something Republicans specialize in.
So, I take it you missed the entire point of my comment. I don't care whether Comey saw someone else's rocks spelling out "86 47" or he did it himself, it's NOT a fucking threat to the President. And the hypocritical Trump crowd would be laughing at this too if this was Biden trying to prosecute a Trump politician for posting "86 46". But because its Trump and his loyalist toe suckers are out in force, some act as if we're supposed to take this seriously. Well, I'm not taking this seriously because it's not serious. It is a joke, and anyone who thinks it is serious can fuck right off because they're either fucking delusional or just a really bad actor with crocodile tears. My gut tells me it's likely the latter in most cases I see here.
Your trying to piece and patch together a rational for this frivolous indictment will impress no one. Tacos asked a good question earlier - if this is supposed to be a serious charge why did they wait a year to bring it?
How you can not call it lawfare after all your railing about lawfare in the past is quite impressive.
How is it possible that you do not recognize acute lawfare right in front of your face?
He's capable likely for the same reason McDonalds employees don't say "Here is your order of 20 nuggets made from a mysterious mix of blood vessels, nerves, a lot of fat, skin, chicken assholes and only about 50% chicken muscle tissue". Being honest would destroy his business of defending Trump in all things.
seems as though some of them really are what they eat then ...
Somebody arranged the sea shells , unless God wants Trump out too. But its possible some other patriot , not Comey, created the display and just left it there. Thats not really the point anyway.
How do you know Comey didn't arrange them?
I would never expect to see that on a beach. Come on John!
He may very well have arranged them , so what? He wasnt calling for the death of Trump. If it wasnt an enemy of Trump who he wants unjustified revenge on this indictment wouldnt exist. I could put 86 47 on twitter today and nothing would happen.
He could have shown a video of him arranging them and this case is still getting thrown out of court as too fucking laughable. This clearly shows how unserious this joke of an administration [deleted] [✘] What a bunch of fucking losers to get all bent out of shape over a picture of some [rocks.deleted][✘]
This really is one of their dumber arguments, in a long list of dumb arguments.
Even if he did, it is not a crime in any way, shape, or form.
what about on a billboard, or a sky-writer? it's very helpful to progressives when maga discloses which parts of the constitution are most offensive to them...
A former FBI Director who was intimately involved in schemes to undermine a President and got to walk away free then decides to publicly taunt the President?
I don't think we should tolerate that.
why are you making things up ?
A former FBI director doing his job properly, who is then the target of a vindictive, irresponsible PotUS engaging in genuine lawfare based on laughably frivolous grounds.
You invent an alternate reality and think people are going to buy that nonsense?
Comey was in the room in late 2016 after Trump had been just elected, when Obama basically told Brennan, Clapper & Comey that he didn't believe the intelligence reports were accurate about not finding verifiable Russian collusion, and he wanted them to bring something that showed Donald Trump colluded with Russia.
Don't you recall when Comey laughed about sending an FBI team to interview Michael Flynn? Remember how Comey said the Trump administration transition team was so inept and so unprepared and didn't even have a lawyer there. Thus, Michael Flynn naively welcomed them into his office, and he talked to them and incriminated himself without counsel. The FBI people who interviewed him, you may recall felt he had been honest with them.
Let us also not forget that Comey admitted to leaking information in order to frame Donald Trump. He also memorialized a certain conversation and hid it from the FBI files and then leaked it indirectly to the New York Times.
He also hired Christopher Steele, who had been working for the Clinton campaign to dig up dirt on Donald Trump and who would become famous for fabricating a phony dossier. BTW Hillary Clinton was clearly guilty of a few things including keeping confidential information on a private server, destroying confidential government information and hiring a foreign national to do her campaign's opposition research. Comey took it upon himself to let her walk.
He led a baseless investigation of President Trump while assuring the President that he was not the target of the investigation. When Andrew McCabe was caught red handed about leaking to the media. He claimed that Comey told him to do it. Comey denied it. So, one of them was lying there.
What all of that adds up to is that James Comey was an immoral partisan who tried to take down a President. Whether he crossed any legal lines is another issue.
I wish him all that he deserves.
It remains amazing that you can post exaggerated nonsense and fabricated 'facts' when dealing with Comey et.al., yet never even offer a hint of the real wrongdoing by Trump.
You want him convicted of a crime for posting 8647.
ChatGPT Fact Checking of your claims:
ChatGPT is bull shit.
Of course, you do not like AI fact-checking, since it routinely blows holes in your fantastic claims.
And you ignore the links to AP, Reuters, etc., because they are all 'bullshit' too when they counter your nonsense.
All the fact checking sites have historically been left wing and dishonest:
Fact-checking the fact-checkers: ‘Pants on Fire’ partisans | New York Post
You need to stop gaslighting
That is very true but when I need to prove a leftist wrong..easily...I will use AI because of the left lean.
Leftists cannot argue with it because they believe everything AI tells them
Your link is a five year old article about one site. Most people fact check with AI today.
They seem to forget that we lived through all of that. We saw what Comey did and how the FBI fudged a FISA warrant application to spy on a US citizen and how Comey overstepped his authority to let Hillary walk after Obama's AG had compromised herself by meeting with Bill Clinton.
Now we have AI tell us it never happened
Most people?
Prove it
Of course, Vic, if reality refutes your posted fantasy, you declare reality 'dishonest'.
Your protests are pathetic.
Denial of these facts illustrates the adoption of an alternate (and false) reality.
Believing something to be real does not make it so. Neither does wishful thinking. Neither does flat out lying for partisan purposes.
None of that works. All can be fact-checked with reliable sources.
Your protests are pointless.
I want to demonstrate how dishonest ChatGPT is. First of all, we just heard the news sites that ChatGPT used. Please note there is no Fox News or WSJ there. But let me tear apart some of that dishonest analysis that TiG had to run to ChatGPT for:
The Flynn agents thought Flynn was truthful — Mixed. Internal records later suggested the agents did not see obvious signs of deception, but Flynn also pleaded guilty twice before being pardoned, and Comey later testified the agents believed Flynn was lying. ( Reuters )
It is "mixed" because Flynn eventually pleaded guilty? How dishonest.
Why did he plead guilty?
"As I’ve noted several times over the years, it has long been speculated that Flynn — though he did not believe he was guilty (and though the agents who interviewed him also did not believe he had intentionally misled them) — nevertheless pled guilty to false-statements charges because prosecutors from Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s staff threatened him. Specifically, Flynn is said to have been warned that, if he refused to plead guilty, prosecutors would charge his son with a felony for failing to register with the Justice Department as a foreign agent. Such a so-called FARA violation (Foreign Agent Registration Act) is a crime that the DOJ almost never charged before the Mueller investigation, and it had dubious application to Flynn’s son (who worked for Flynn’s private-intelligence firm)."
Michael Flynn & Justice Department: New Revelations in Case | National Review
The statement I made was not mixed. It was 100% true. The agents who interviewed him believed he was being truthful.
"The report says McCabe, in particular, testified that the two agents who interviewed Flynn “didn’t think he was lying.”
House Intel report: McCabe said agents who interviewed Flynn ‘didn’t think he was lying’
You see, I don't need to run to some site to debate anyone or rewrite history.
I just roll out the facts.
Another invented 'fact' in lieu of an actual argument.
You ' roll out ' mostly bullshit and an alternate reality.
ChatGPT's response to your attempt to portray it as 'dishonest':
It is about time you faced the facts.
Here is another BS statement:
Obama “ordered” Brennan, Clapper, and Comey to manufacture Trump-Russia collusion evidence — False / unsupported. Declassified material released in 2025 did not substantiate that claim, and prior investigations found the Russia probe was opened with sufficient predication. ( AP News )
FACT:
Top officials from former President Barack Obama ʼs administration suppressed a key intelligence assessment in December 2016 that concluded Russia had not interfered with voting systems or altered the outcome of the presidential election, then ordered the creation of a new narrative alleging the opposite, according to newly declassified documents.
Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard declassified and released the records Friday, calling them “overwhelming evidence” that the Obama administration “manufactured and politicized intelligence” to justify what would become a yearslong campaign to undermine President Donald Trump .
Obama officials hid intel that cleared Trump in 2016, declassified records show
Using AP News might not be a good idea.
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Another misleading BS statement. When did I say that Comey admitted to a deliberate frame-up. We don't need Comey to admit to a deliberate frame up for it to be one.
Here's another:
Comey “hid” memos from FBI files — Unsupported as stated. The inspector general found the memos were official FBI records and that Comey mishandled them, but that is not the same as proving he secretly concealed them from FBI files. ( DOJ Inspector General )
Haha! He "mishandled" them!
Using the well-established bias of the Washington Examiner alone to establish facts is source-shopping. It is a form of confirmation bias.
ChatGPT on your latest attempt:
Show us more denial of the obvious:
Two misleading statements on what FBI investigators originally said. They tell us twice that Flynn pleaded guilty and I already showed why he pleaded guilty. BTW it has nothing to do with the FBI investigators impressions.
ChatGPS working overtime to mislead.
You can't call anyone biased TiG, because you depend on a site to do your debating for you.
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You argued that Comey framed Flynn. Or are you going to try to back out of that?
You leap to malicious intent ("hid") while ChatGPT used language that was more defensible given what is known.
ChatGPT on your attempted rebuttal:
More Bull Shit:
Comey let Hillary Clinton “walk” even though she was clearly guilty — False / opinion stated as fact. DOJ and FBI declined charges, and the DOJ inspector general found no evidence Comey’s public statement was driven by bias or an effort to influence the election. ( DOJ Inspector General )
It is not opinion. It is fact . She had classified documents on her private server, and they were destroyed when under subpoena. The FBI investigation conducted by Comey was a complete farce and ChatGPS never even answered my charge that Comey didn't have the authority to bring or dismiss charges. That was supposed to be for the DOJ.
For those of us who lived through it here is yet another reminder:
WASHINGTON — The FBI barely glanced at potentially crucial evidence in its investigation of Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server while secretary of state, according to a portion of a watchdog report made public Monday.
A confidential source gave thumb drives to the FBI that contained State Department data acquired via cyber intrusions — including emails from President Barack Obama and others , according to a declassified appendix to a June 2018 Justice Department inspector general report .
But the feds declined to “comprehensively” analyze those drives due to concerns about individual data caught up in the hack — despite an internal draft memo concluding it was necessary to “assess the national security risks” pertaining to Clinton’s private server use.
“This document shows an extreme lack of effort and due diligence in the FBI’s investigation of former Secretary Clinton’s email usage and mishandling of highly classified information,” said Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) of the appendix.
The report was penned by then-DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz, who currently holds the same position at the Federal Reserve Board and Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.
It is unclear whether the FBI has since carried out a more thorough probe of the hard drives since the 2018 watchdog report was released.
“Comey’s decision-making process smacks of political infection.”
Dismissed intelligence
Another notable detail in the appendix is that the FBI stumbled upon Russian-language intelligence alleging that then-US Attorney General Loretta Lynch and Comey were interfering in the Clinton email investigation “to help the Democratic and Republican presidential candidates, respectively.”
The intel also included claims that then-Democratic National Committee chairwoman, Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.), had communicated with two individuals who worked at the Soros Open Society Foundations and told them she was confident that the FBI didn’t have evidence against Clinton, because “data was removed from the mail servers just in time.”
Investigators translated the intelligence documents into English, and officials speculated that the intelligence could have come from a cyber attack at the Atlantic Council, a DC-based international affairs think tank.
The documents also claimed that Comey, who registered as a Republican prior to 2016, was set on “dragging this investigation until the presidential elections, in order to effectively undermine the chances” for Clinton to win.
But Peter Strzok — then the FBI deputy assistant counterintelligence director and the lead agent on the investigation — pushed his team to comb through the Russian documents via keyword searches and concluded there were no underlying hacked communications included.
Comey concluded that the documents weren’t credible, and witnesses told the watchdog that they contained information that was “verifiably false.”
The former FBI honcho also defended his decision not to inform Lynch before going public with his July 6, 2016, statement declaring that the feds wouldn’t pursue criminal charges against Clinton over the email debacle, arguing that he was afraid the announcement would leak.
Comey’s statement exonerating Clinton came prior to interviews with multiple key witnesses related to the probe.
The FBI later opened its Crossfire Hurricane investigation into President Trump, looking into whether his campaign colluded with the Kremlin to secure the White House in 2016.
“Today, the Department of Justice honored Chairman Grassley’s request to release information relating to former-FBI Director James Comey’s failed investigation into Hillary Clinton’s mishandling of highly classified information during her tenure as Secretary of State,” Attorney General Pam Bondi said in a statement.
“I commend Chairman Grassley for his unwavering, years-long commitment to exposing the truth and holding those who seek to conceal it accountable. This Department of Justice is fully committed to transparency and will continue to support good-faith efforts in Congress to ensure accountability across the federal government.”
FBI failed to probe key thumb drives in Clinton email probe: DOJ watchdog files
THOSE ARE THE FACTS AND THEY CAN'T BE ERASED BY SOME SITE>
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By now you should realize the message.
Before posting it would be wise for you to do fact-checking of what you think is reality. Because in many cases, it seems to me that you are posting an alternate reality.
ChatGPT is one source, but there are plenty of AI tools out there to cross-reference. These tools are excellent for gathering from myriad sources, cross-checking, and summarizing.
And if you continue with this absurd notion that ChatGPT, et. al., is bullshit, then at least do conventional fact-checking by using sources other than those that support your particular bias. That is how you avoid confirmation bias.
ChatGPT:
You do yourself a disservice by ignoring the fact-checking by ChatGPT and pretending that it is some leftwing plot to spread disinformation.
That is incredibly cynical (and wrong).
All sources have some bias. AI sources, like human source, have some inherent bias. The bias, however is minor as they draw from extremely large corpora and much work is done to tone down bias (it is in the best interest of the AI provider to do so).
IMO, you are ignoring a valuable resource to stick with sources that feed a confirmation bias.
ChatGPT:
If it even makes it to trial. Comey is smart enough to have a competent attorney on retainer.
Unfortunately, it won't be his daughter Maureen, it would be a conflict of interest for her to defend her father against the very government she is suing for improper dismissal from her US Atty position by the retribution executive.
there's plenty of competent attorneys in the DC area with past DOJ experience available just now ...
Why not go after the sea shells too? Obviously they colluded with Comey or whomever placed them in that arrangement. I mean, they just stayed in their positions while Comey took the photo. So they must agree with him correct?
And don't get me started about the sand...just letting Comey walk all over it...
giggle snort
lol well played..
spelling silly stuff with seashells at the seashore should not be taken seriously