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Trump says he is likely to reject peace proposal as Iran has 'not yet paid a big enough price'

  
Via:  John Russell  •  6 months ago  •  56 comments


Trump says he is likely to reject peace proposal as Iran has 'not yet paid a big enough price'
In his post on social media, Trump wrote: "I will soon be reviewing the plan that Iran has just sent to us, but can’t imagine that it would be acceptable in that they have not yet paid a big enough price for what they have done to Humanity, and the World, over the last 47 years."

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WEST PALM BEACH, Florida/DUBAI, May 3 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump said that he had yet to review the exact wording of a new Iranian peace proposal but he was unlikely to accept it, because ​the Iranians had not yet "paid a big enough price".
Trump's remarks on social media concluded a day in which he publicly mused about the possibility of restarting airstrikes, the latest ‌mixed signal as he seeks to end the war he launched more than two months ago.
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On Sunday, Israel ordered thousands of Lebanese to leave villages in southern Lebanon, an escalation of a war between Israel and Iran's Hezbollah allies that has run in parallel to the Iran war and could further complicate wider peace efforts.
Iran has said talks with Washington cannot resume unless a ceasefire also holds in Lebanon, which Israel invaded in March to attack Hezbollah after the Iranian-backed Lebanese group ​fired across the border in support of Tehran.
Lebanon and Israel agreed a separate truce last month, but fighting has continued, though on a smaller scale. The Israeli military issued an urgent ​warning on Sunday to residents of 11 towns and villages in Lebanon's south, urging them to evacuate their homes …

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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    6 months ago

He's nuts. 

 
 
 
CB
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1.1  CB  replied to  JohnRussell @1    6 months ago

He clearly thinks too highly of himself and his abilities to control faraway places, and it will take time to see if he actually has the right amount of depth or if its his delusion.

 
 
 
cjcold
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1.1.1  cjcold  replied to  CB @1.1    6 months ago

No! I figured Trump out years ago. He's evil personified.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2  devangelical  replied to  JohnRussell @1    6 months ago

at some point in time, his handlers will hide him in the WH basement, pull him from public view, and his AI media replica is all that we'll see until sometime before the 2028 general election when his conveniently delayed death and funeral is used as a last-ditch attempt campaign ploy. I'd venture to guess with gas prices exceeding historic levels this summer, and voters having already decided who's to blame, the secret service probably isn't too keen about trump's fat carcass out in the open ... 

 
 
 
CB
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1.2.1  CB  replied to  devangelical @1.2    6 months ago

This expedited approach to foreign policy (even domestic politics) can often fail when all countries have to do is wait out an unwanted American president. In other words, bide time and this too will pass. . . .  As far as the other nations are concerned, being as old as many of them are, Trump is a 'pimple' on the butt of reality that will be "two and done" relatively soon in their long history of political power and actions taken. Heavens! The opposition in this country is already outlining and engineering the rebuilt of the systems Trump and MAGA are corrupting—other countries see in occurring here on a daily basis.

 
 
 
JBB
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1.2.2  JBB  replied to  devangelical @1.2    6 months ago

original

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.2.3  Ozzwald  replied to  devangelical @1.2    6 months ago
at some point in time, his handlers will hide him in the WH basement, pull him from public view, and his AI media replica is all that we'll see until sometime before the 2028 general election when his conveniently delayed death and funeral is used as a last-ditch attempt campaign ploy.

Could that be what the "underground bunker" is for?

 
 
 
Krishna
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1.2.4  Krishna  replied to  JBB @1.2.2    6 months ago

Trump says he is likely to reject peace proposal as Iran has 'not yet paid a big enough price'.

To put it more accurately:

Trump says he is likely to reject peace proposal as the American people have 'not yet paid a big enough price'.

 
 
 
cjcold
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1.2.5  cjcold  replied to  devangelical @1.2    6 months ago

Kind of sounds like a variation of the movie "Dave". But this isn't a movie, this is Trump screwing everybody on the planet because he is insane.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.3  Split Personality  replied to  JohnRussell @1    6 months ago

So he is now, Judge, Jury and executioner?

There's a couple of pity parties going on in nearby articles, some a week old. 

I offer this as some sort of evidence that the Trump supporters think he is being picked on.

List of United States presidential assassination attempts and plots - Wikipedia

Now initially i would point out how many times that Presidents of both parties ( and parties, long gone ) have been targeted.

I believe Obama was targeted more seriously than Trump, but the reader can decide.

Trump's section clearly trumps everyone's.

Maybe it because he just sucks as a POTUS, especially this time around with his apparent megalomania becoming more and more glaring.

Here's the new 22 foot tall bronze statue, gold leaf added, recently "erected" at Doral Country Club national sumptin.

320

 
 
 
CB
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1.3.1  CB  replied to  Split Personality @1.3    6 months ago

The shameless man is a lesson for the ages to us all. May we learn to never let a 'him' happen to this country again. Whatever our problems and circumstances letting a 'madman' labor at turning us into 'madMEN' (including females under the phrase) is not the answer! Just like cleaning up behind a dog that stains the surfaces about and around it. . . the next president should mop up mostly all the 'markings' left by this. . . man who impossibly thinks he is a 'god.' 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.3.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Split Personality @1.3    6 months ago
I believe Obama was targeted more seriously than Trump, but the reader can decide.

Less embarrassingly, people will publicly admit they believe the world is flat.

Trump was literally shot in the ear in an attack that killed another man....

 
 
 
CB
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1.3.3  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.3.2    6 months ago

Presidents should not TAUNT their civilian population and constituents. It's unseemly and can be hazardous. Shoving people out of jobs, stealing for oneself, nepotism, and leaving people no other choice except to eat the sh-t he serves up for them. . . could leave INDIVIDUALS in the population desperate. That is, one can not abuse everybody, because some people can not accept it.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.3.4  Sean Treacy  replied to  CB @1.3.3    6 months ago
should not TAUNT their civilian population and constituents. It's unseemly and can be hazardous.[✘]

 
 
 
CB
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1.3.5  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.3.4    6 months ago

I will leave it up to hyperbolic mockers that always dodge and distract to make, carry, and promote their own narratives as done here and now. And now, in keeping with your assertion:

So, you believe Presidents should TAUNT their civilian populations and constituents.

And do not EVER AGAIN accuse me of wishing death on anyone. I have spent my entire life in wishing, praying, and hoping for the GOOD in society even for the worst of humanity!

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.3.6  Split Personality  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.3.2    6 months ago
Trump was literally shot in the ear in an attack that killed another man....

He was grazed, not shot in the ear as evidenced by any number of daily photos.

I offered the Wikipedia article for you to read objectively.

Does a man arrested for driving around with Anti Trump threats on his car windows seriously "count" or is it just fluff some flat earth Trump supporter added to the Wiki article?

 41-year-old Daniel Rodney Swain of  Summerville, South Carolina , was arrested and charged with resisting a public officer, possession of  methamphetamine , and using a fake license plate.

Sounds like the real deal... /S

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.3.7  Split Personality  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.3.4    6 months ago
So you believe Republicans would have been justified in shooting Biden or Obama. 

Stop trolling with illegitimate deflections please.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.3.8  Sean Treacy  replied to  CB @1.3.5    6 months ago
VER AGAIN accuse me of wishing death on anyone.

I didn't accuse you "wishing death." Words matter. Own yours. I [✘] If an assassin killed someone while trying to shoot Biden, you would not be on this site attacking Biden for taunting Republicans and creating a "hazardous" situation. We know Biden did taunt Republicans and you certainly never spoke up about it.

It's fascinating watching people admonish Trump for the same behavior they spent four years rationalizing and justifying. It's like their is some pact among the anti-Trump partisans to completely forget everting they said when it comes to Democrats. I remember though.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.3.9  Sean Treacy  replied to  Split Personality @1.3.6    6 months ago

[deleted][✘]

 
 
 
CB
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1.3.10  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.3.8    6 months ago

There are degrees of everything. . .for instance, water boils at a certain threshold and in the opposite threshold water freezes. Men grow goatees and when longer beards. Similarly, there is right and wrong (and 'in-betweens' mixtures/degrees of issues and problems). They are not all the same, nor can the same "all-in-one" solution be applied to issues and problems - despite the ease of such solutions. 

So, I would suggest Trump supporters stop trying to jam ROUND issues and problems into SQUARE issues and problems spaces. It simply won't fit or work and the 'pain' caused from the jamming always leaves marks. And if that is not clear enough. Trump and Biden never operated the same as presidents. Indeed, Trump detests nearly everything about Biden's politics as president evidenced by his removal of 'things' Biden and more.

BTW, courts deliver judgements that take into account mitigating circumstances. :)

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.3.11  Split Personality  replied to  CB @1.3.10    6 months ago
, Trump detests nearly everything about Biden's politics as president evidenced by his removal of 'things' Biden and more.

Childishly and without any evaluation as to the good of the country. The MO of HUBRIS.

 
 
 
CB
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1.3.12  CB  replied to  Split Personality @1.3.11    6 months ago

One thing for sure, hiring this builder to be president ought to be a lesson to us all before we hire another builder! This man is marking up D.C. this year, . . . what does he plan to mark-up in his final two years?!! And by comparison, Biden left his mark in policy not by 'spraying' surfaces.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.3.13  Split Personality  replied to  CB @1.3.12    6 months ago

Golf courses, a Presidential Library and the biggest Mausoleum ever built in the USA, maybe a small pyramid ? 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.3.14  Ozzwald  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.3.2    6 months ago
Trump was literally shot in the ear in an attack that killed another man....

Yet closeups have shown no scar on that ear...  Because of the heat from friction, even the slightest wound would cause scarring.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.3.15  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ozzwald @1.3.14    6 months ago

and cartilage doesn't grow back

he was never shot

but that poor fireman was

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.3.16  Sean Treacy  replied to  Ozzwald @1.3.14    6 months ago

Progressives should spend all their time spreading Trump assassination conspiracies. It will pay off hugely in convincing normies  how rational and not all delusional obsessive progressives are when it comes to Trump. 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.3.17  Ozzwald  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.3.16    6 months ago
Progressives should spend all their time spreading Trump assassination conspiracies.

Actually I was just responding to your assassination conspiracy.

 
 
 
cjcold
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1.3.18  cjcold  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.3.2    6 months ago

I suggest that potential amateurish assassins should leave that work to the trained pro's. There are so many that Trump has pissed off. Wondering what they're waiting for?

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.3.19  devangelical  replied to  cjcold @1.3.18    6 months ago

40 more attempts and trump breaks hitler's record ...

 
 
 
devangelical
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2  devangelical    6 months ago
they have not yet paid a big enough price for what they have done to Humanity, and the World

... that's the same logic that should be applied to the maga wing of the republican party permanently, when resolving their attempts to subvert the constitution and our democracy, after the balance of powers is regained. I'll be supporting the most cost effective solutions to maga and the problems they've created until that balance has returned ...

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3  seeder  JohnRussell    6 months ago

Trump says he may park "the worlds largest" aircraft carrier, the Abraham Lincoln, off the shore of Iran. Trump says they will surrender when they see that. 

 
 
 
CB
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3.1  CB  replied to  JohnRussell @3    6 months ago

Well, it is good (I guess) to know that something still can IMPRESS Trump.   /s

 
 
 
Gsquared
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3.2  Gsquared  replied to  JohnRussell @3    6 months ago

Trump thought Iran would surrender immediately after he started his war, and they would not disrupt shipping in the Strait of Hormuz or attack neighboring countries in response to his bombing.  Seeing an aircraft carrier should do it. He certainly is a visionary leader.

 
 
 
CB
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3.2.1  CB  replied to  Gsquared @3.2    6 months ago

Aircraft carriers, in general,  are AWESOME ( in the extreme ).  

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The USS Gerald R. Ford (left) and the USS Abraham Lincoln    

Whether they are moving on the high seas or parked, when one of these vessels pulls up to a waterway and in-close (portside). . . it is stupifying to behold. Together, they surely will (momentarily) take one's breath away! And that is with or without the planes onboard! So yes, they are fearsome and their accompanying sailors and marines - a mighty force du jour.

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.2.2  devangelical  replied to  Gsquared @3.2    6 months ago

trump doesn't know what to do when people stand up to his his bullying ...

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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3.2.3  Ozzwald  replied to  devangelical @3.2.2    6 months ago
trump doesn't know what to do when people stand up to his his bullying

His narcissism would never let him even consider that.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.3  Split Personality  replied to  JohnRussell @3    6 months ago

Golly gee, and believe me, I respect the Bad Penny (CVN-73) with all of my heart but she's far from the world's largest aircraft carrier.

The USS Gerald R. Ford (CVN-78) is the largest aircraft carrier in the United States Navy and the largest warship ever built.

The Ford embarrassingly is in port due to a laundry room fire ( Iran claims they hit it with a missile) which subsequently destroed berths for 100 sailors.

Also embarrassingly the toilet based on cruise ship designs were installed undersized and are frequently broken or stopped up.

President Gerry Ford had no good nicknames and his namesake has had little but trouble since being launched.

With it's now working electromagnetic launch system, it could sit still and launch planes all day;

unlike the steam systems on older carriers like the Lincoln which along with the steam catapult need to be moving as fast as possible into the wind to launch most aircraft.

I think just about any sentence that starts with "Trump says" will be TACO'd or NACHO'd shortly then after.

 

 
 
 
CB
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3.3.1  CB  replied to  Split Personality @3.3    6 months ago

Wow. Sorry to hear about any 'shortcomings' on the Gerald R. Ford. It's is a step above that it can launch aircraft from a standstill. The Abraham Lincoln's launch 'power' and launching aircrafts into the wind is not a hindrance as there are support (carrier group/s) ships entirely surrounding any and every carrier on the world's seas. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.3.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Split Personality @3.3    6 months ago
Donald Trump did describe the USS Abraham Lincoln as “the biggest in the world,” but this statement is not accurate. Multiple reports show he used that phrasing in speeches, yet the world’s largest aircraft carrier is the USS Gerald R. Ford, not the Abraham Lincoln.  Microsoft Copilot: Your AI companion
 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.3.3  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Split Personality @3.3    6 months ago
I think just about any sentence that starts with "Trump says" will be TACO'd or NACHO'd shortly then after.

hopefully

 

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.3.4  Split Personality  replied to  JohnRussell @3.3.2    6 months ago

No he threatens to "park it" off the coast of Cuba.  Pfft.

When I was aboard the Lincoln, too many of the senior officers were involved in stupid projects that added A/C  or carpeting that would help her outweigh the USS Carl Vinson.

Like a college fraternity competition.

The Nimitz-class aircraft carriers are a class of ten nuclear-powered supercarriers that have been a cornerstone of the U.S. Navy since their introduction in the 1970s

All essentially the same.

More Trump ignorance of basic Naval facts

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.3.5  devangelical  replied to  Split Personality @3.3.4    6 months ago

a floating steel island that most probably could be taken out by a mass drone attack that would cost less than it's anchors.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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3.3.6  Ozzwald  replied to  devangelical @3.3.5    6 months ago
a floating steel island that most probably could be taken out by a mass drone attack that would cost less than it's anchors.

Russia has recently learned what happens when you just "park" naval vessels off shore (Ukraine).

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.3.7  devangelical  replied to  Ozzwald @3.3.6    6 months ago

just another future trump family merchandising opportunity ...

 
 
 
cjcold
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3.4  cjcold  replied to  JohnRussell @3    6 months ago

Trump is a fool. Iran and affiliates have trained to destroy carrier groups.

The NSA and CIA have told him that, but Trump knows more than they do.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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4  Tacos!    6 months ago

So, now we’re just punishing a whole country? That sounds sane.  /s

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Tacos! @4    6 months ago

That’s what war is and has been since the beginning of time.  Except now we don’t take the women as slaves.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1    6 months ago

Your denial doesnt make Trump any less crazy. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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4.1.2  Tacos!  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1    6 months ago
That’s what war is and has been since the beginning of time.

No. No it isn’t. Sometimes? Sure. But even it were true, America is supposed to be an improvement on the way things have always been. Your willingness to just excuse anything this president says or does, no matter how outrageous, is part of the problem.

 
 
 
CB
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4.1.3  CB  replied to  Tacos! @4.1.2    6 months ago

Some conservatives can not criticize Trump, because they are 'stone-cold' believers in what he GIVES them. That is, they 'complete' Trump and Trump 'completes' them. (Just look at the restructured systems of our government that have been dismantled and 'grafted' into conservative consciousness.)

One could get a misleading impression that our country Can BACK ITS WAY into the future. One would not be wrong, we are a dangerous place right now. . . not even true to truth. As one can only take the world backwards so far before it runs into the langoliers that are removing everything that is yesterday. Believe it. AI will not let the past come back and take-over us.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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4.1.4  Split Personality  replied to  Tacos! @4.1.2    6 months ago

Those addicted to hubris usually stick together and die together as witnessed in WWII

 
 
 
devangelical
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4.1.5  devangelical  replied to  Split Personality @4.1.4    6 months ago

that's the karmic future I see for maga ...

 
 
 
cjcold
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4.1.6  cjcold  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1    6 months ago

You sound like Conan the Barbarian lamenting the old days when chopping off heads before breakfast was your thingy.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5  seeder  JohnRussell    6 months ago
President Donald Trump on Thursday held a press opportunity with reporters near the Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool, which is undergoing renovations. REPORTER: Is the ceasefire with Iran still on?

PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: Yeah, it is. They trifled with us today. We blew them away. They trifled. I call that a trifle. I'll let you know when there's no ceasefire. You won't have to know. If there's no ceasefire, you're not going to have to know. You're just going to have to look at one big glow coming out of Iran. And they better sign their agreement fast.

REPORTER: Could you give us an update on what is the latest in those talks?

TRUMP: The talks are going very well, but they have to understand, if it doesn't get signed, they're going to have a lot of pain. They're going to have a lot of pain.

Trump: "If there's no ceasefire, you'll see one big glow coming out of Iran"
 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @5    6 months ago

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Trout Giggles
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5.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @5    6 months ago
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: Yeah, it is. They trifled with us today. We blew them away. They trifled. I call that a trifle. I'll let you know when there's no ceasefire. You won't have to know. If there's no ceasefire, you're not going to have to know. You're just going to have to look at one big glow coming out of Iran. And they better sign their agreement fast.

Do you understand this word salad?

 
 

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