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Donald Trump says he'll run for president again in 2024

  
Via:  Nerm_L  •  2 years ago  •  50 comments

By:   Sarah Smith & Jude Sheerin (BBC News)

Donald Trump says he'll run for president again in 2024
The announcement sets up a possible rematch of 2020's bitter contest with President Joe Biden.

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That chicken has crossed the road.  By announcing a campaign this soon, Trump has given up the power of the tease.  Trump would garner more press coverage by continuing to hint at a possible run.  Stick a fork in this campaign, it's done.  Trump has already lost the nomination.

But the MAGA base ain't going away anytime soon.  Trump may be able to fire up the MAGA base and that will influence the campaigns of other Republican candidates.  Trump won't be the Republican nominee but it's highly likely Republicans will nominate a MAGA candidate.  What the MAGA base wants (and needs), whether they know it or not, is a policy agenda.  Trump's not a policy wonk which is another disadvantage that Trump can't overcome with bluster.

Personally, my five & dime crystal ball suggests that 2024 belongs to Nikki Haley, if she wants it.  There aren't any Democrats on the bench that could compete with Haley.  But no one should blame Haley if she decides to avoid the Washington shithole, too.


S E E D E D   C O N T E N T



Former US President Donald Trump has launched his third bid for the White House, declaring: "America's comeback starts right now."

At his Florida estate, he said: "We have to save our country."

Mr Trump's announcement comes as some fellow Republicans blame him for the party's lacklustre performance in last week's midterm elections.

President Joe Biden, who defeated Mr Trump two years ago, has said he may run for re-election in 2024.

Speaking to an invited crowd from the ballroom of his Mar-a-Lago private club in Palm Beach on Tuesday night, Mr Trump, 76, said: "We are a nation in decline.

"For millions of Americans, the past two years under Joe Biden have been a time of pain, hardship, anxiety and despair."

He continued: "In order to make America great and glorious again, I am tonight announcing my candidacy for president of the United States."

Shortly before the speech, he filed paperwork with the Federal Election Commission formally declaring his presidential candidacy and setting up a fundraising account.

Outside Mar-a-Lago, supporters gathered to wave Trump 2024 flags.

Mr Trump's speech lasted for more than an hour and touched on many of the same themes he had been repeating on stage for months.

These included border security, energy independence and crime, as well as attacks on Mr Biden's record in office.

His wife, Melania Trump, joined him on stage at the end of the speech. But there were fewer family members present than at some of his past events and Ivanka Trump and Donald Jr did not attend.

Following Mr Trump's announcement, Ivanka, who had previously served as a senior adviser in her father's administration, released a statement saying she was taking a step back from politics and would not be involved in the 2024 campaign.

"This time around, I am choosing to prioritise my young children and the private life we are creating as a family," she wrote.

Nearly 11,000 miles (17,700km) away at the G20 summit in Bali, Indonesia, Mr Biden, 79, was asked whether he had a reaction to Mr Trump's announcement.

"No, not really," the Democratic president said. Last week, he was filmed laughing when a reporter suggested Mr Trump's support base remained strong.

Image source, Getty ImagesImage caption, Supporters celebrated in the Mar-a-Lago ballroom after Mr Trump's announcement on Tuesday

Mr Trump's unusually early declaration for the election of 5 November 2024 is being seen as a tactic to steal a march on potential rivals for the Republicans' White House nomination.

Although Mr Trump is the first to enter the race and instantly becomes the front-runner, he is expected to face challengers.

They may include his own former Vice-President, Mike Pence, who is 63, and rising star Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, 44.

In Tuesday's remarks, Mr Trump largely steered clear of rehashing his baseless claims that the 2020 election had been stolen from him by mass voter fraud.

He left office after one term in 2021, refusing to acknowledge his defeat by seven million votes.

His debunked conspiracy theories riled up supporters who rioted at Capitol Hill in the final days of his presidency as lawmakers met to certify President Biden's victory.

Mr Trump became the first president ever to be impeached twice, although congressional Democrats were thwarted in their bid to remove him from office by Senate Republicans.

He ploughed ahead with his announcement on Tuesday despite pleas from advisers to postpone until after a run-off election for a Senate seat in Georgia next month, amid fears his candidacy could prove too much of a distraction.

Some conservatives have blamed Mr Trump for the Republicans' failure to achieve sweeping victories in last week's midterm elections.

The party is on the verge of taking power in the US House of Representatives, but it would be by a razor-thin margin.

Democrats have retained control of the Senate and may even bolster their majority after the December run-off in Georgia.

Last week's results were decidedly mixed for congressional hopefuls endorsed by Mr Trump.

Candidates he supported in key states such as Pennsylvania, Arizona and Michigan were defeated after echoing his election conspiracies, while others won in Ohio, Wisconsin and North Carolina.

Mr Trump's White House bid comes as he is investigated on several fronts, including a justice department investigation into the removal of files marked classified from the White House to Mar-a-Lago at the end of his presidency.

He is admired by conservatives for installing three Supreme Court justices and enacting sweeping tax cuts, as well as presiding over a Middle East peace deal and the killing of Islamic State's leader.

But America's divisions widened during his four tumultuous years in office as he was accused of governing by tweet, equivocating over far-right violence, a chaotic response to the coronavirus pandemic, and alienating US allies with his "America First" policy.


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Nerm_L
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1  seeder  Nerm_L    2 years ago

"Oh, beat the drum slowly and play the fife lowly,
And play the dead march as you carry me along;
Take me to the green valley, there lay the sod o'er me,
For I'm a young cowboy and I know I've done wrong."

 
 
 
JBB
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2  JBB    2 years ago

If the gop nominates Trump Biden wins 2nd term!

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @2    2 years ago

Yes, if Biden runs.

 
 
 
JBB
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2.1.1  JBB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @2.1    2 years ago

original

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.1.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @2.1.1    2 years ago

Exactly, a different viper makes all the difference.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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2.2  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  JBB @2    2 years ago
If the gop nominates Trump Biden wins 2nd term!

Obviously that's Democrats' creamy dream.  But Trump won't ignore Biden and Harris for the next two years.  Remember that Trump was nominated and elected to be a nuke targeting Washington?

Whoever will be the Republican nominee only has to sit back and let Trump snipe from the sidelines.  Right now, Trump is a useful tool.  The serious Republican candidates may not announce a run until quite late.  Trump will damage Biden, Harris, and himself long before the next election cycle.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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2.3  Ronin2  replied to  JBB @2    2 years ago

If voters ignore the complete and utter fucking mess Brandon and the Democrats have made of this country.

Turning 70 plus million voters into public enemy #1 worked out well for Democrats during midterms; so who knows.

Maybe the majority of voters will like being in a full blown recession for 2024.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3  Sparty On    2 years ago

Yeah, I think he’s just trying to get ahead of DeSantis.

Should be a fun two years watching our haters on the left sling mud at the rent free occupant in their heads and all his challengers.

Will we see a return of basement Biden?    I doubt it since his usefulness to his puppet masters is more less worn out but time will tell.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Sparty On @3    2 years ago
Should be a fun two years watching our haters on the left sling mud at the rent free occupant in their heads and all his challengers.

I hear you but the downward spiral of the Repub Party isn't much fun to watch.  Twelve years ago, Repubs had record numbers of elected official from state to federal government.  It's a Party now in decline.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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3.1.1  Ozzwald  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @3.1    2 years ago

Twelve years ago, Repubs had record numbers of elected official from state to federal government.  It's a Party now in decline.

That's because the republican party refuses to change with the times.  They are running on the same campaign promises that they were 12 years ago, tax cuts for the rich.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3.1.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1.1    2 years ago

Thanks for the in depth analysis, it should help continue the conversation here.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3.1.3  Sparty On  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @3.1    2 years ago

Both parties are in decline and too many on both sides are in denial about it.    

Imo It’s why a prick won in 2016.    He was viewed as an outsider and many liked that.    And he acted like an outsider after he was in office.

We are all losing right now but many are too dull to recognize it.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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3.1.4  Ozzwald  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @3.1.2    2 years ago

Thanks for the in depth analysis, it should help continue the conversation here.

Glad I could help.

 
 
 
JBB
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3.2  JBB  replied to  Sparty On @3    2 years ago

Nope, Trump and Desantis are both fair game!original

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3.2.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @3.2    2 years ago

Tell the truth JBB, you're not sorry at all.  

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3.2.2  Sparty On  replied to  JBB @3.2    2 years ago

Of course they are.    

It’s a universal truth for some of our friends on the left.

Haters gotta hate.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4  Jeremy Retired in NC    2 years ago
Trump has given up the power of the tease.

Tease or not, the left and the Democrats are going to lose their collective mind.  Looks like TDS is going to make a resurgence.

 
 
 
JBB
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4.1  JBB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4    2 years ago

How Trite! You really need some new material...

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.1  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @4.1    2 years ago

I suppose he could always rant about mythical voter suppression and threats to democracy!

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.1.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @4.1    2 years ago

Not every can paste fresh meme's like you do, JBB.

 
 
 
JBB
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4.1.3  JBB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.1.2    2 years ago

When you criticize my participation I am reminded of when Obama said Hershel Walker was unqualified for the Senate and Walker said that he would put his resume up against Obama's any day...

 
 
 
JBB
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4.1.4  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.1    2 years ago

Why can't I flag you for trolling anymore?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.5  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @4.1.4    2 years ago

Gee, I just waved my magic wand, and presto!

Lmao!

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4.1.6  Sparty On  replied to  JBB @4.1.4    2 years ago

Abuse your report button again there little buddy?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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4.1.7  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JBB @4.1.4    2 years ago

Usually that indicates that a moderator or RA made a determination that you abuse the flagging feature. You probably need to ask Perrie.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.1.8  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @4.1.3    2 years ago

Exactly, you have the political insights of Obama and I have the resume of Walker - not.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.9  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @4.1.4    2 years ago

maybe because you don't know what trolling is.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.1.10  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @4.1.4    2 years ago

Abuse history?

 
 
 
Hallux
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4.1.11  Hallux  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.1.7    2 years ago

Going on 2 years (the mind is a cloudy thing) and I have yet to flag anyone ... thick skin syndrome and all that sort of thing.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.1.12  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Hallux @4.1.11    2 years ago

I never flagged a comment until yesterday.  I got tired of tickets for comments less innocuous that those that I replied to. I also asked offline, the moderators logic, with limited replies.

 
 
 
Hallux
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4.1.13  Hallux  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.1.12    2 years ago

Here, there and everywhere, logic is overrated along with its cousin commonsense. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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4.1.15  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  JBB @4.1.4    2 years ago

The restriction ran both ways so SP deleted it. Now you can flag.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.1.16  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JBB @4.1    2 years ago

Why get new material when what I said is still perfectly valid?  

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.1.17  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Sparty On @4.1.6    2 years ago

I guess that's what happens when you can't tolerate differing opinions and cry a lot.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1.18  Tessylo  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.9    2 years ago
maybe because you don't know what trolling is.

jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
4.1.20  Sparty On  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.1.12    2 years ago

lol some nimrod reported your post

Welcome to the NT premier pass brother.

It covers everything .....

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.21  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.18    2 years ago

I agree with your glee. It is pretty funny that he doesn't know!

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.1.22  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Hallux @4.1.13    2 years ago

You got that right.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.1.23  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.1.15    2 years ago

Let the flags fly.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4.2  Sparty On  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4    2 years ago

Brother, it never left .... although yesterday did aggravate the problem.

I can almost see them foaming at the mouth. jrSmiley_88_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Hallux
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4.3  Hallux  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4    2 years ago
the left and the Democrats are going to lose their collective mind.

I believe you are misreading the room, there is nothing those two(?) groups would like more than Donald keeping his record unscathed.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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4.4  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4    2 years ago
Tease or not, the left and the Democrats are going to lose their collective mind.  Looks like TDS is going to make a resurgence.

Well, isn't that the point?  How can Trump-crazed Democrats compete against a serious Republican candidate?  Trump will spend the next two years rebranding Democrats - and - Democrats will play along.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.4.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to    2 years ago
They'll try and fabricate something like always !

Give them a day or two.  They have to go through their hair on fire freak out then they'll put together an other hoax to distract from the horrid way the Democrats have put this country in the shitter.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.4.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to    2 years ago

There's a difference between "unpopular" and pure garbage that has done nothing for the country.  Democrats have been running on pure garbage.

 
 

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