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Robert in Ohio

Trump Lied

  
By:  Robert in Ohio  •  life choices  •  last year  •  65 comments

Trump Lied
"I don't like to lie, no. I don't like to lie, no. It's something that -- it's not something that I would like to be doing," Trump said.

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Robert in Ohio
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1  author  Robert in Ohio    last year

Less than a month ago, I bought the same coffee for $10.99

So much for the consumer not being hurt by Trump's tariffs.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Robert in Ohio @1    last year

Thats quite a leap in price.  

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Robert in Ohio @1    last year

I bought the same brand a week or so ago and didn't even bother to look at the price. No, I'm not rich, but I can't live without my Folger's Black Silk.

That's almost 200% increase (check my math)

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2.1  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.2    last year
I can't live without my Folger's Black Silk.

me neither. too bad it makes your teeth look like baked beans after a few years ...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.2.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @1.2.1    last year

I do brush my teeth and get my teeth cleaned 2X a year

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2.3  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.2.2    last year

... so, shiny and cavity free baked beans then ...

 
 
 
CB
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1.2.4  CB  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.2    last year

10.99 x 95.6% = 10.50  


10.99 + 10.50) = 21.49.

⇑  95.6 % 

 Dearest TG, love you! :)

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.2.5  Trout Giggles  replied to  CB @1.2.4    last year

as you can see math is not my strong suit

 
 
 
CB
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1.2.6  CB  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.2.5    last year

Hey! No problem. You actually did it correctly to get a percentage in the aggregate, but what we want is the difference (of cost) beyond what the coffee was priced before an increase. ;)

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  Robert in Ohio @1    last year
Less than a month ago, I bought the same coffee for $10.99

Were you here when inflation was around 5%? We had all sorts of people on here telling us that the experts say the economy is actually in great shape. I don't recall you posting a column on "lies" back then.[✘]


 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.3.1  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.3    last year

The current economy is good, Vic; but it is showing signs of weakness.

The economy is not judged by a single factor.   A good economy can exist with a healthy GDP, low unemployment, strong consumer spending, even with higher-than-normal inflation.   That was the case during the Biden years.   The economy was in good shape even when prices and interest rates were too high.   Note how the economy (from the Biden era) has continued to be good six months into the Trump era; it has been resilient enough to withstand the actions of an incompetent buffoon as PotUS abusing tariffs and other powers.

Currently, the economy is okay, but we are seeing a slowdown in job creation, a threat of reduced consumer spending, etc.   Trump's tariffs, if they last, will absolutely continue to raise prices (and broaden to more products and services).  That will indeed adversely affect the economy.   

It is a partisan game to focus on one aspect of a whole just to make a flawed, biased attack.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.3.2  devangelical  replied to  TᵢG @1.3.1    last year

I've noticed that the comb over in chief hasn't mentioned prices at the gas pump lately ...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.3.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @1.3.1    last year
That was the case during the Biden years. 

I see.

So, all we need do is enact $Trillion spending bills and print money.

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.3.4  bugsy  replied to  devangelical @1.3.2    last year

He actually did the other day. He said prices were down to the mid 2 dollar level in some places . Here in north Florida it fluctuates from the 2.60s to 3.19 depending on the part of the week. 
Much better than the 3.50s and higher we experienced from the dementia boy and his DEI hire VP.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.3.5  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.3.3    last year

Clearly, you do not see since your comment has absolutely nothing to do with what I posted.   Your comment is non sequitur.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.3.6  devangelical  replied to  TᵢG @1.3.5    last year
your comment has absolutely nothing to do with what I posted

.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.4  devangelical  replied to  Robert in Ohio @1    last year

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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2  author  Robert in Ohio    last year

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The meter spikes like this every time, I hear the president speak on tariffs or come to think of it most any other subject

 
 
 
JBB
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2.1  JBB  replied to  Robert in Ohio @2    last year

You knew that last year yet found no compelling reason to logically oppose Trump's reelection...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  JBB @2.1    last year

stop

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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2.1.2  author  Robert in Ohio  replied to  JBB @2.1    last year

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cjcold
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2.2  cjcold  replied to  Robert in Ohio @2    last year

Trump lies about anything and everything and has done so for his whole life.

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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2.2.1  author  Robert in Ohio  replied to  cjcold @2.2    last year

Agree

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3  TᵢG    last year

There are people who believe Trump’s outrageous, repeated lie that tariffs are paid by foreign nations.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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3.1  Igknorantzruls  replied to  TᵢG @3    last year
repeated lie that tariffs are paid by foreign nations.

Even right wing friendly economists, can't explain how these tariffs, Trump claimed were absolute

necessities, are going to cause US consumers to not pay more. And as the often wrong 'right', continue to not see how their votes determined our plight, when they lose their Medicaid, lose their medical insurance, or costs go up and the cost of about EVERYTHING increases, will they come to the realization, that somehow the damn left Democrats screwed they and Trump, yet again!

 
 
 
Freewill
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3.2  Freewill  replied to  TᵢG @3    last year
There are people who believe Trump’s outrageous, repeated lie that tariffs are paid by foreign nations.

Indeed, and all it takes is a simple Google AI search to learn the truth:

It's a common misconception that foreign exporters directly pay tariffs.   In reality, the companies importing the goods into a country are responsible for paying the tariffs to their own government's customs agency .  
Here's how the costs can be distributed:
  • Importers (like businesses in the U.S.) pay the tariff.   This is a direct tax on the imported goods.
  • These importers may choose to absorb some or all of the cost , cutting into their own profits to remain competitive or keep prices stable for their customers.
  • More frequently, importers pass on some or all of the tariff costs to consumers through higher prices on the imported goods .
  • Foreign exporters might also choose to absorb part of the cost   by lowering their prices to remain competitive in the market where the tariff is being applied.  
In essence, while the importing company is the one writing the check to the government, the economic burden of tariffs can be borne by a combination of the importer, the exporter, and ultimately, the consumer through higher prices,   according to U.S. News & World Report .  
An example
Consider a scenario where a U.S. company imports $100 worth of shoes from Vietnam, and the U.S. government imposes a 20% tariff on those shoes.  
  1. The U.S. importer pays $20 in tariffs to the U.S. Treasury Department .
  2. The importer might try to negotiate a lower price with the Vietnamese manufacturer   to offset this cost.
  3. The importer could also choose to absorb the cost , potentially reducing its own profit margins.
  4. However, a likely outcome is that the U.S. importer raises the price of the shoes for consumers   to recoup the tariff costs.  

It really ain't rocket science.  Economics 101 in high-school should cover it.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.2.2  Split Personality  replied to  Freewill @3.2    last year

So it's an import tax that will be passed on to the consumer.

At least in the 50s and 60's they were polite enough to call it an excise tax on cars 

I think my  68 Plymouth Fury had a $300 excise tax right on the sticker

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.2.3  devangelical  replied to  Split Personality @3.2.2    last year

that's how much it would cost to put a tank of gas per week for a year in that boat back in '68 ...

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.2.4  Split Personality  replied to  devangelical @3.2.3    last year

fuck, I remember the heart attacks we were having when the gas prices reached .25  and we thought it was the end of civilization, lol.

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.2.5  devangelical  replied to  Split Personality @3.2.4    last year

gas war!

19.9¢ per gallon ...

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4  JohnRussell    last year

A lot of the online "manosphere" believes that the foreign countries pay the tariffs.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @4    last year

I think they need to start teaching Econ 101 in high school

 
 
 
devangelical
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4.1.1  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.1    last year
I think they need to start teaching Econ 101 in high school

I don't think that would help much for those that made it to graduation through the athletic dept ...

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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4.2  Igknorantzruls  replied to  JohnRussell @4    last year
A lot of the online "manosphere" believes

what Trumpster tells them, but there has been like a 10 point drop in support by younger males for Trump.The more prices increase, and they will, the more support he'll lose, and rightfully so. Till it actually hits maga in the face, they'll refuse to face it, though, Epstein issues have jarred a few awake, FINALLY

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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4.3  author  Robert in Ohio  replied to  JohnRussell @4    last year

JOhn

And that manosphere is hopelessly and hilariously uninformed of reality

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5  JohnRussell    last year

I pray these photos of the oval office are photoshopped

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It looks like a whore house from a Caligula movie. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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5.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @5    last year

It's gawdy as hell that's for sure

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1    last year

I think there is a 100% chance that the next president will take all that crap down. 

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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5.1.2  Igknorantzruls  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.1    last year

yeppers, that's the way to save money, give it to the rich, taken from the poor, they'll invest it properly in something severely needed

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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5.1.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.1    last year

I sure hope so

 
 
 
Gsquared
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5.2  Gsquared  replied to  JohnRussell @5    last year

Hideous.

 
 
 
freepress
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6  freepress    last year

He lied on the campaign trail in rallies about IVF treatments being paid for to help have babies.

Now he says they won't pay for IVF Treatments. 

He lies about everything.

It is really crazy that so many MAGA zealots want to put the Ten Commandments up all over the place and then literally worship Trump as a golden idol who lies daily. 

Fake Christians worshipping a prolific liar.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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6.1  Igknorantzruls  replied to  freepress @6    last year
It is really crazy that so many MAGA zealots want to put the Ten Commandments up all over the place and then literally worship Trump as a golden idol who lies daily. 

C'mon now, Trump only lies when he is sitting up in bed, or, when he speaks, or tweets, or dictates like a dick tater twot grabbin back stabbin black lives not matterin POS making the White Power House of shame his claim to famez as our country is on the verge of flames, but it's the other guy faults, asz these grown victims numbering oveer a thousand now, and whats important is who is on that list that Pam shredded, cause those bad evil rich guys, young girls, did have down bedded, N for me, i just now wet it, so maybe some extra credit, cuz see, asz i'm just some King, not on Epsteins or Santa's List, i even checked twice, cause Epstein was naughty, and every one knows i'mm nice enuff to give a tiny helping little hand, as i grab them bitches buy that pussy, buy sea or land my base didn't care, so whats up with all this friction bout someone stealing young girls from my club, cause Epstein was my friend, till he stole my young victims,  then i had a message to send, cause if Maxwell wants out of the big house, she better lift up her blouse, and swear i wasn't there, cause that's all that matters, screw these grown victims numbering oveer a thousand see, cause it was everyone ese, never me

 
 
 
CB
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7  CB    last year

For the love of the U.S. why doesn't the president of the United States have a proper understanding of how tariffs work? Where is the economic 'help' and advisors surrounding this guy. . . where are his speech writers with the proper wording for tariffs 'pay-offs'?

Why do we tolerate such ineptness? This is the same man that had Biden misspoke once in the same wording about tariffs would label Biden unfit and suffering from old age. 

What the heck is going on in this country? Why do conservatives not 'fix' Trump understanding of the people he is taxing literally with his ill-understood and inconsistent tariffs!

 
 
 
Thomas
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7.1  Thomas  replied to  CB @7    last year
 Why do conservatives not 'fix' Trump understanding of the people he is taxing literally with his ill-understood and inconsistent tariffs!

Wealth and power is for sale at  the Trump mansion in Washington. Err, I mean the White House. 

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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8  Bob Nelson    last year

800

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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8.1  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Bob Nelson @8    last year

that’s fckd up

 
 
 
TᵢG
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8.1.1  TᵢG  replied to  Igknorantzruls @8.1    last year

Trump cult.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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8.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Bob Nelson @8    last year

In typical leftist fashion, the "picture" is photoshop.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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8.2.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @8.2    last year

prove it or you're just trolling

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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8.2.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Trout Giggles @8.2.1    last year

Look at it!!!!!  I've seen better photoshop work in the '90s.  

But for giggles and grins....When was this "photo" taken?  Where was this "photo" taken?  

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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8.2.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @8.2.2    last year

Your side posts stuff all the time that is photo shopped trying to pass if off as true

So I don't know and I don't care

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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8.2.4  Bob Nelson  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @8.2.2    last year

Ummm.. ... Jeremy? Have you heard of this new application called "Google"?

Use it to search for "Thank You, Lord JESUS, for President TRUMP".

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Trout Giggles
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8.2.5  Trout Giggles  replied to  Bob Nelson @8.2.4    last year

You might as well give him the link or we'll be at this the rest of the week

Never mind I found it. It was soooooo simple

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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8.2.6  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Trout Giggles @8.2.3    last year
Your side posts stuff all the time t

Blah, blah, blah.  

When was this "photo" taken? 

Where was this "photo" taken? 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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8.2.7  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Bob Nelson @8.2.4    last year
When was this "photo" taken?  Where was this "photo" taken? 

Doesn't answer my questions.  You don't want me to call it photo shop then prove it's not.

When was this "photo" taken? 

Where was this "photo" taken? 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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8.2.8  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Trout Giggles @8.2.5    last year

Still looks photoshopped there too.

Kind of like the album covers for Carcass "Symphonies of Sickness and "Reek Of Putrefaction".  At least Carcass admit that it's photoshop.  Unlike that site.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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8.2.9  Trout Giggles  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @8.2.8    last year

[✘]

 
 
 
devangelical
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8.2.10  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @8.2.9    last year

[.][✘]

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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8.2.11  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @8.2.10    last year

I'm expecting a ticket for that comment. It was soooooo worth it. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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8.2.12  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @8.2.8    last year

Well, it is from J5, 2017 article so THERE is your relevance........../S

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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8.2.13  Bob Nelson  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @8.2.12    last year

So.... now you recognize that your Photoshop rant was just made-up bullshit... but you're ok with that because of timing??

I say again: You made up some pure bullshit, and now you're not only not backing down, you're somehow saying it was true because of when it happened??

Your Lord and Master once said he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and not loose a single supporter. Clearly he would not lose you.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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8.2.14  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Bob Nelson @8.2.13    last year
now you recognize that your Photoshop rant was just made-up bullshit.

What "rant" are you talking about.  He's made ONE comment on this article.  

but you're ok with that because of timing??

using an 8 year old cry piece really puts YOU into question.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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9  Sean Treacy    last year

Food prices actually deflated from June to July, but I get that facts don't really matter when feelings are involved. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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10  Jeremy Retired in NC    last year
Trump Lied

So did Biden, Obama, Clinton, Schiff, Comer, Banner, Pelosi, Waters, Jeffries, Warren, and every other politician.  But lets act like children and hyper focus on just one.