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Fox News Doctored Clips of Obama’s Visit to the White House to Make It Seem Like Biden Was Lost

  
Via:  al Jizzerror  •  2 years ago  •  105 comments

By:   Ryan Bort

Fox News Doctored Clips of Obama’s Visit to the White House to Make It Seem Like Biden Was Lost
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Fox News Doctored Clips of Obama’s Visit to the White House to Make It Seem Like Biden Was Lost


Barack Obama visited the White House for the first time since he left office on Tuesday. He was there to celebrate the 12th anniversary of the Affordable Care Act, as well as to watch President Biden sign an executive order aimed at improving the law. Obama’s return created plenty of commotion, and for Fox News and the rest of the right-wing ecosphere, a fresh opportunity to cast Biden as a weaker, watered-down version of the former president.

The Republican National Committee shared two clips of the visit that quickly went viral. The first shows an ostensibly confused Biden ambling around the stage as Obama holds court behind him. The second is similar, with Biden standing on the periphery as Obama greets well wishers

The clips even made it onto the Fox News primetime slate. “Biden doesn’t know what on earth he’s doing or, at times, where he even is,” Lauran Ingraham said as she played the first clip. Tucker Carlson played the second, along with a “King Obama” graphic depicting the former president wearing a crown and a menacing scowl. “Make it stop,” Carlson said. “It’s awful.”

The only problem is that both clips were taken out of context. Biden does look a little confused in the first clip, but it’s only because he’s looking for someone, perhaps Interior Secretary Deb Haaland, whom he brings up onstage to applause shortly after the conservative media cut ends. The second clip ends right before Biden gets Obama’s attention and introduces him to someone. Twitter user @acyn helpfully attached the full clips to the end of the Fox News segments lambasting the edited versions.

Newsmax got in on the action, too. The network on Tuesday ran a “PRESIDENT OBAMA 2.0” graphic along with a bizarre chyron about how Biden and Obama are “beta males.” It also showed the clips, both with similar deceptive edits. “At one point he’s just walking aimlessly through the room,” an on-air commentator said on Wednesday morning. “It’s really sad. He doesn’t know where to go.”

“This is a lost old man. This is when I pulled out the 25th Amendment,” another added before arguing that the 25th Amendment, which allows for the removal of the president from office if they’re unable to discharge their duties, could be in play before 2024. “I believe it is if the evidence continues to mount that President Biden is actually incapable of performing his job,” she said.


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al Jizzerror
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1  seeder  al Jizzerror    2 years ago

I invited Fucker Carlson to comment on this topic butt, unfortunately his nose was stuck in Trump's ass so he won't be available until firefighters use the "jaws of life" to help with the extraction.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1  devangelical  replied to  al Jizzerror @1    2 years ago

 
 
 
JBB
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2  JBB    2 years ago

original

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  JBB @2    2 years ago

Yeah, but Curly was acting

 
 
 
JBB
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3  JBB    2 years ago

original

 
 
 
JBB
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4  JBB    2 years ago

original

 
 
 
JBB
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5  JBB    2 years ago

original

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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5.1  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  JBB @5    2 years ago

Jeez, talk about moobs!  Someone hand that man a Spanx waist minimizer with the with the built-in boob up-lift feature...and be quick about it.

 
 
 
JBB
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6  JBB    2 years ago

original

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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7  Buzz of the Orient    2 years ago

As I've said many times, granpappy told me to not believe anything I hear or read and only half of what I see, but those were the days before photoshopping and digital video editing, so now the only thing anyone can believe is what they see with their own two eyes, and even then one can't be so sure.  For national and international political reasons disinformation has become the rule and the belief in it and propounding of it is now a mental disease that pervades worse than a covid pandemic.    

 
 
 
TᵢG
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8  TᵢG    2 years ago

No wonder our best, most qualified, honest people rarely run for public office.

 
 
 
MonsterMash
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9  MonsterMash    2 years ago

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al Jizzerror
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9.1  seeder  al Jizzerror  replied to  MonsterMash @9    2 years ago

You can attack Ryan Bort butt his article is accurate.

Here is the complete UNEDITED video:

Biden does NOT appear to be a senile old man who can't handle his job.  That's because the video has NOT been edited by Fox News.

When I was in college we made videos of classmates denying that they were communists.  Then we edited the tape.  Every student appeared to be admitting that they were communists in the edited version.  Now Fox News does the same thing.  With the advent of digital editing it's easy to make anyone appear to be an idiot.   

 
 
 
Ender
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9.1.1  Ender  replied to  al Jizzerror @9.1    2 years ago

I saw a weird study the other day. They had fox news watchers watch only CNN for about two months. After the people were more likely to see through some of the fox agenda.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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9.1.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  al Jizzerror @9.1    2 years ago

Wow, Fox edited it to look like Biden was silently walking around the room when we can clearly see that he was standing still and speaking in this unedited version.

 
 
 
Dulay
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9.1.4  Dulay  replied to  Ender @9.1.1    2 years ago

What was inspiring about that study is that after only 3 days of watching CNN, the Fox News devotes opinions were already changing. Maybe there is hope for 'deprogramming' then after all. 

 
 
 
Ender
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9.2  Ender  replied to  MonsterMash @9    2 years ago

I don't know if it is me but those pics make me dislike him.

Oh to be young and good looking....

 
 
 
MonsterMash
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10  MonsterMash    2 years ago

" Obama’s return created plenty of commotion, and for  Fox News  and the rest of the right-wing ecosphere, a fresh opportunity to cast Biden as a weaker, watered-down version of the former president"

Fox didn't have to make that up It's painfully obvious Biden is a weaker, watered-down version of the former president.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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10.1  seeder  al Jizzerror  replied to  MonsterMash @10    2 years ago
Fox didn't have to make that up It's painfully obvious Biden is a weaker, watered-down version of the former president.

Fox EDITED the tape.  That's the reason Biden appeared to be "a weaker, watered down version of the former president".

So, in effect, Fox DID "make that up."

Why are you defending the dishonesty of Fox News?

Are you a Trumpanzee?

 
 
 
MonsterMash
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10.1.1  MonsterMash  replied to  al Jizzerror @10.1    2 years ago
Fox EDITED the tape.  That's the reason Biden appeared to be "a weaker, watered down version of the former president".

So you think Biden is as vibrant and a better president than Obama was?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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10.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  al Jizzerror @10.1    2 years ago

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Tessylo
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10.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  al Jizzerror @10.1    2 years ago

Sorry for being off topic but let me just leave this here - along with 10.1.2

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Kavika
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11  Kavika     2 years ago

Tucker and MTG are two dimwits and make Boris and Natasha look brilliant.

 
 
 
JBB
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11.1  JBB  replied to  Kavika @11    2 years ago

original

 
 
 
Tacos!
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12  Tacos!    2 years ago

Edited Doctored, but then I know for some people, words don’t mean what they mean anymore.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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12.1  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @12    2 years ago

So, still don't care?

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Tacos!
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12.1.1  Tacos!  replied to  Tessylo @12.1    2 years ago

No. We aren’t even talking about it.

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Tessylo
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12.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @12.1.1    2 years ago

This is how a public forum works.  

You flatter yourself.

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Right Down the Center
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12.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tacos! @12    2 years ago

You mean like Liberal =Truth is not true?

 
 
 
JBB
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12.2.1  JBB  replied to  Right Down the Center @12.2    2 years ago

No, more like Trumpeon's "Alternative Facts"...

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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12.2.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Right Down the Center @12.2    2 years ago
Liberal =Truth

That some CNN / MSNBC level fiction there.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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12.2.3  Tessylo  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @12.2.2    2 years ago

Liberal = Truth/Reality

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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12.2.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Tessylo @12.2.3    2 years ago
That some CNN / MSNBC level fiction there.

That some CNN / MSNBC level fiction there.

 
 
 
JBB
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12.2.5  JBB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @12.2.4    2 years ago

Was CNN or MSNBC got caught red handed pushing fake shit unworthy of any respect?

Like Fox News has been? Deplorable Stuff!

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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12.2.6  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JBB @12.2.5    2 years ago
Was CNN or MSNBC got caught red handed pushing fake shit

Have you not been paying attention since 2016?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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12.2.7  Trout Giggles  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @12.2.2    2 years ago

You don't remember Kelly's "alternative facts" sound byte?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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12.2.8  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Trout Giggles @12.2.7    2 years ago

Refresh my memory.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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12.2.9  Trout Giggles  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @12.2.8    2 years ago

"Alternative facts" was a phrase used by U.S. Counselor to the President, Kellyanne Conway, during a Meet the Press interview on January 22, 2017, in which she defended White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer's false statement about the attendance numbers of Donald Trump's inauguration as ...
 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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12.2.10  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Trout Giggles @12.2.9    2 years ago

So with that, it can't be applied to CNN or MSNBC?  is that what you're trying to tell me?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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12.3  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @12    2 years ago

You weren't always such a . . . . 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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12.3.1  Tacos!  replied to  Tessylo @12.3    2 years ago

Aww . . . Am I not fitting into someone’s box again?

 
 
 
JBB
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12.3.2  JBB  replied to  Tacos! @12.3.1    2 years ago

Do you favor "Trusted News Organizations" utilizing fake doctored possibly foreign sources footage of our American leaders?

 
 
 
Tacos!
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12.3.3  Tacos!  replied to  JBB @12.3.2    2 years ago

What do you mean by “doctored?” To me, it means they changed the image. Like, if they made Biden look like Dick Clark, or had him walking on the Moon, that would be “doctored.” If what they showed was real, you could argue it was unfairly edited, but it hasn’t been doctored.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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12.3.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Tacos! @12.3.3    2 years ago

I think that is a little bit of hair splitting. When you show an excerpt of a video , and end it a second or two before something that comes on the video proves your argument completely wrong, I think something was doctored. How about the truth was doctored. Is that better for you? 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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12.3.5  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @12.3.4    2 years ago
I think that is a little bit of hair splitting.

Then use the right word to describe what really happened. If you have to lie and exaggerate using the wrong word, then maybe it’s not as big a deal as you make it out to be. Furthermore, by playing fast and loose with the definition of words in this way, you become the very thing you accuse FoxNews of being.

Is that better for you? 

Criticism or rebuttal that is honest would be better for me.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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12.3.6  JohnRussell  replied to  Tacos! @12.3.5    2 years ago

I'm laughing too hard. 

Why are you nitpicking what term is used? Did the use of the wrong term make the point uncipherable ?

Sounds more like you dont want to discuss the fact that Fox News misrepresented the video. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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12.3.7  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @12.3.6    2 years ago
Why are you nitpicking what term is used?

Why are you? Why can’t you admit that “doctored” is the wrong word because the video was not, in fact, doctored?

Sounds more like you dont want to discuss the fact that Fox News misrepresented the video. 

Not at all. But we can’t even get to that discussion because people like you insist on saying the video was doctored - when it wasn’t.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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12.3.8  TᵢG  replied to  Tacos! @12.3.7    2 years ago

Okay, the video was unfairly edited to portray Biden as lost/confused.

The word 'doctored' does have a broad definition (quite a few synonyms for the root verb 'doctor' including 'tamper with' and 'change').   But hopefully JR will be able to accept 'unfairly edited'.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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12.3.10  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @12.3.8    2 years ago

I am not disputing the contention that "doctored" may not quite be the word that describes the Fox News video, but neither is the video the opposite of "doctored". Given that fact I dont see the point in making a big deal about what word someone used. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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12.3.11  Tessylo  replied to  JBB @12.3.2    2 years ago

Obviously

 
 
 
TᵢG
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12.3.12  TᵢG  replied to  JohnRussell @12.3.10    2 years ago

It does not seem that the word choice made any difference to the concept.   Both you and Tacos! seem to agree that the video was altered to present a particular negative perception of Biden.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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12.3.13  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @12.3.12    2 years ago

The whole video is x amount of minutes. Fox News "altered" those minutes into a shorter version which deliberately left out footage that showed Biden in a better light. 

I just dont think its worth debating whether or not that constitutes "doctoring". Technically it may not, but I think its almost a difference without a distinction. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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12.3.14  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @12.3.13    2 years ago

Many people and actions are worthy of legitimate criticism, but too often those people or actions are characterized as something much worse than is warranted, which damages the credibility of even the impulse to criticize.

Because if the truth were enough, people would stick to that. Instead, they engage in a campaign of character assassination. Victory - not truth - becomes the goal. As I said above, when you (or anyone else) engages in this practice, you become everything you say you hate about FoxNews.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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12.3.15  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @12.3.14    2 years ago
"Many people and actions are worthy of legitimate criticism, but too often those people or actions are characterized as something much worse than is warranted, which damages the credibility of even the impulse to criticize." 

Exactly right with regards to this 'article'.  The likes of something you have never seen in a president. . . . . jrSmiley_80_smiley_image.gif regarding this doctored video

 
 
 
devangelical
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12.3.16  devangelical  replied to  Tacos! @12.3.1    2 years ago
not fitting into someone’s box

pretty much my reason for existence in the 70's...

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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13  Right Down the Center    2 years ago

WOW, I haven't seen so many triggered people since....well, since Trump won the 2016 election.  Although I agree Fox edited the tape(something that all news, especially cable news, does on a daily basis) the unedited version of the events does not make Biden look much better.  He still looks like a lost little boy that no one cares about.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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13.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Right Down the Center @13    2 years ago

Any one of us could be followed around by a video camera at a party or gathering like this and a great percentage would look "clueless" or lost for a moment or two. The full length video that CB posted yesterday showed Biden engaging with any number of people, and in fact there were people that went up to him to engage with him. So for a few moments he looked alone. BFD. The complaints are ridiculous.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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13.1.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @13.1    2 years ago
in fact there were people that went up to him to engage with him

Probably so he wouldn't embarrass them or himself any more.  reality is the only way that is going to happen is an admission into "Shady Pines"

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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13.1.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @13.1    2 years ago

I always find it interesting that different people can look at the same thing and have entirely different conclusions of what they saw.  For instance some people can look at burning buildings and see a riot and others look at the same thing and see mostly peaceful.  In this case some people see a doddering old fool and others see him working the room.  And someplace in the middle is the truth.

I see Obama in the spotlight and Joe being a bit forgotten.  It should not come as a surprise considering how revered Obama is that Joe would be second fiddle for the night.  What is funny is how the right makes an issue out of something that is to be expected and the left comes to the rescue to say Nope, what you saw is not what happened at all.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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13.1.3  Greg Jones  replied to  Right Down the Center @13.1.2    2 years ago

Obama despises Biden..

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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13.1.4  afrayedknot  replied to  Right Down the Center @13.1.2    2 years ago

“And someplace in the middle is the truth.”

In all things…every time, every place.

Too often ignored in the rush to place blame, pass judgment, or make a specious point. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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13.1.5  Right Down the Center  replied to  Greg Jones @13.1.3    2 years ago

Interesting, I thought that was coming across in some the proceedings, starting with the "joke" of calling him the vice president.  Obama is smart enough to know that would be problematic yet chose to do it anyway.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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13.1.6  Right Down the Center  replied to  afrayedknot @13.1.4    2 years ago

It seems people hide behind the phrase "my truth" and confuse it with "the truth".

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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13.1.7  afrayedknot  replied to  Right Down the Center @13.1.6    2 years ago

“It seems people hide behind the phrase "my truth" and confuse it with "the truth".”

Constantly.

Ignorance is bliss, and the fear is palpable. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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13.1.8  JohnRussell  replied to  Right Down the Center @13.1.2    2 years ago

Let me take a video of you at a work gathering for 10 or 15 minutes and I guarantee I will find something on that video to criticize you with. 

The FACT is right wing media has distorted the meaning of the footage of Biden. That is fact, not opinion. In one clip they purport to show Biden wandering aimlessly when the full video shows he was looking for someone in particular he wanted to bring onstage. In the second clip Biden is supposedly being ignored when he was standing behind a jovial Obama when in reality Biden was waiting for the opportunity to tell Obama that he had someone he wanted him to meet. 

Reality and right wing media have never made acquaintance. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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13.1.9  Tessylo  replied to  Right Down the Center @13.1.6    2 years ago

No, the truth is the truth.  Liberal=truth/reality

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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13.1.10  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Tessylo @13.1.9    2 years ago
Liberal=truth/reality

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Jeremy Retired in NC
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13.1.11  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @13.1.10    2 years ago

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Right Down the Center
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13.1.12  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @13.1.9    2 years ago

yea, yea, yea

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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13.1.13  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @13.1.8    2 years ago
The FACT is right wing media has distorted the meaning

It is called creative editing and it has been done by ALL "news" media for years.  When you call out both sides for the practice you might be taken a little more seriously in your outrage.  Until then you just look like a partisan hack ignoring the fact the "left" media does it at least as much as the "right" media.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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13.1.14  Tessylo  replied to  Right Down the Center @13.1.13    2 years ago

It is not the same thing at all.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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13.1.15  JohnRussell  replied to  Right Down the Center @13.1.13    2 years ago

I'm not going to comment on your blanket statements. Bring up a specific instance of the left media "creatively editing" and I will comment on it. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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13.1.16  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @13.1.15    2 years ago

Your never seeing it at all only proves my point.  BTW how many times has the left wing media proclaimed "this is the beginning of the end of Trump"?  Often times the proclamation comes after creative editing of something he did or said

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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13.1.17  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @13.1.14    2 years ago

Oh but it is.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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13.1.18  JohnRussell  replied to  Right Down the Center @13.1.16    2 years ago

So you are either too lazy or otherwise incapable of finding an example of Left media "creatively editing".  Do you need me to find one for you? 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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13.1.19  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @13.1.18    2 years ago

Or choice 3.  Don't want to waste my time showing someone something that they refuse to see.  You can't have watched years of CNN  or MSNBC without it being there for you  hundreds of times yet you never see it.  BTW how many times has the left wing media proclaimed "this is the beginning of the end of Trump"?  Often times the proclamation comes after creative editing of something he did or said

 
 
 
Snuffy
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13.1.20  Snuffy  replied to  JohnRussell @13.1.18    2 years ago

They are not hard to find.....   and oldie but a goodie,  NBC editing the 911 call from George Zimmerman

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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13.1.21  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Snuffy @13.1.20    2 years ago
NBC editing the 911 call from George Zimmerman

By their definition that's "DOCTORING" a call from George Zimmerman. 

I guess it comes down to the source. 

  • A left leaning blogger does it - it's "editing". 
  • Anybody else - it's "doctoring".
 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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13.1.22  Right Down the Center  replied to  Snuffy @13.1.20    2 years ago

I think my favorite is Nick Sandman who sued and got a settlement from CNN due to their creative editing and narrative.  Not too far behind are the people that were demonized because of  creative editing and narrative where it was claimed by the media that the border patrol was using a whip on illegal alien's crossing the river only to find out they were reigns and even the person that took the video stated they were not using them as whips.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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13.1.23  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Right Down the Center @13.1.22    2 years ago

Don't forget Kyle Rittenhouse in all that as well.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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13.1.24  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @13.1.15    2 years ago

Don't waste your breath.  Certain posters always say they have many examples yet provide ZERO while saying you've proven their point.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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13.1.25  Tessylo  replied to  Right Down the Center @13.1.17    2 years ago

Oh but it is NOT.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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13.1.27  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @13.1.24    2 years ago
Don't waste your breath.  Certain posters always say they have many examples yet provide ZERO while saying you've proven their point.  

Yet there are 4 mentioned above that you can't see even when they are pointed out to you.  Again proving the original point.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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13.1.28  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @13.1.25    2 years ago
Oh but it is NOT.

yea, yea, yea

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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13.1.29  Right Down the Center  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @13.1.23    2 years ago
Don't forget Kyle Rittenhouse in all that as well.

Oh yea, there are too many to try and remember them all.  Pick a day, chances are you can find several.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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13.1.30  JohnRussell  replied to  Snuffy @13.1.20    2 years ago

People can decide for themselves whether or not NBC maliciously left out the 911 dispatchers question about Martin's race. 

I went back and listened to the whole call. What disturbs me is that the dispatcher never asked Zimmerman why he was stalking someone who wasnt committing any crime. 

Zimmerman tells the dispatcher that it is raining and implies that anyone walking in the rain in the dark must be up to no good. There is no evidence that Trayvon Martin was up to no good prior to him going to confront the person who had been stalking him through the rainy night. 

 
 
 
Snuffy
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13.1.31  Snuffy  replied to  Right Down the Center @13.1.29    2 years ago

The bottom line is that main-stream media cannot be trusted to report truthfully on everything.  They ALL will selectively edit footage to "prove" their point and slant their reporting on their own bias.  Some reporters are better than others at hiding their bias and a few will actually report almost bias-free (but those are the exceptions unfortunately).   

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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13.1.32  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @13.1.30    2 years ago

When Fox showed the "edited" video of Biden the other day, the Fox hosts explicitly attacked Biden as being "lost" and "confused" when the full video showed a different picture. 

Whether or not the NBC version of the 911 call was unfair to Zimmerman is quite debatable. 

 
 
 
Snuffy
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13.1.33  Snuffy  replied to  JohnRussell @13.1.30    2 years ago
People can decide for themselves whether or not NBC maliciously left out the 911 dispatchers question about Martin's race. 

Oh come on,  NBC admitted they did it.

You can try to hide behind it but the simple fact is that once again main-stream media was caught selectively editing something to help paint the picture they wanted to portray rather than just report the facts.  Your comment about how people can decide for  themselves is crap IMO because people have been trained to believe their own bias and accept what they believe to be true.  We see it over and over every day even on this site.  You are doing it now with the last line you entered in the above comment.  You can deny it but it's obvious that it's your bias. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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13.1.34  Tessylo  replied to  Right Down the Center @13.1.28    2 years ago

No, no, no

 
 
 
Snuffy
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13.1.35  Snuffy  replied to  JohnRussell @13.1.32    2 years ago
When Fox showed the "edited" video of Biden the other day, the Fox hosts explicitly attacked Biden as being "lost" and "confused" when the full video showed a different picture.  Whether or not the NBC version of the 911 call was unfair to Zimmerman is quite debatable. 

Yes, I agree with your statement on what Fox news was doing.  I feel your bias is preventing  you from viewing the Zimmerman issue in a neutral light.

What about the CNN edits of Nick Sandman?  What are your thoughts on that?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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13.1.36  Tessylo  replied to  Right Down the Center @13.1.12    2 years ago

So glad you agree.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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13.1.37  Tessylo  replied to  Right Down the Center @13.1.27    2 years ago

You have provided ZERO examples of what we are talking about.  

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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13.1.38  Right Down the Center  replied to  Snuffy @13.1.31    2 years ago

Exactly, what is amazing is that some people continue to insist only the other guys do it and their side only reports the facts and would never do anything malicious to try and promote their narrative even in cases where they are caught and admit it.  Unfortunately it makes it almost impossible to have a rational discussion with them.

What I am seeing more of that I find interesting is the swiping of the media outlets against other media outlets.  You can't go a day without CNN and MSNBC pointing out what fox is saying (often edited with their own spin) or Fox pointing out (often edited with their own spin) the same about CNN and MSNBC.  I understand it has gotten so bad one of the executives of the new owners of CNN reached out to fox and said they would be calling a cease fire.  Not sure how true that is though.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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13.1.40  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @13.1.36    2 years ago
So glad you agree.

yea yea yea

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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13.1.41  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @13.1.37    2 years ago
You have provided ZERO examples of what we are talking about.  

You can't show something to someone who refuses to see.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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13.1.42  Tessylo  replied to  Snuffy @13.1.33    2 years ago

Nope.  Faux 'news' are the only ones who do that.  

You said the same nonsense to me the other day about bias.  The hypocrisy is mind boggling.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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13.1.43  JohnRussell  replied to  Snuffy @13.1.33    2 years ago

NBC should not have left out the 911 dispatchers question as to Martins race, although in the big picture that question had little to do with what happened that night. 

In the Biden video, the deception is the entire basis for talking about the video. Without the deception the Fox hosts would have had no reason to comment on the video. 

 
 
 
Snuffy
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13.1.44  Snuffy  replied to  Tessylo @13.1.42    2 years ago

Oh for fuck sake..   numerous examples are pointed out above and  you refuse to acknowledge.  CNN was sued over their selective editing of Nick Sandman and they settled rather than go to court where they could have lost much more than the settlement amount and have on public record that they did it.  I don't understand how you can willfully ignore the evidence that is all around you.  I think it's rather sad that you live in such a state of denial.

 
 
 
Snuffy
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13.1.45  Snuffy  replied to  JohnRussell @13.1.43    2 years ago

Got it, ignore what you don't want to answer because it blows up your narrative.  Both are examples of a national news organization performing selective edits on footage to fit their bias and portray what they wanted the article to say.  You can shift to a "big picture" but it's meaningless...   main-stream media cannot and should not be trusted to be truthful.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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13.1.46  Right Down the Center  replied to  Snuffy @13.1.44    2 years ago

It is sad.  I am not sure if it is a cry for attention or if some people may consider their beliefs like a religion to be believed without question.   

 
 
 
bbl-1
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14  bbl-1    2 years ago

FOX 'doctored' Obama's WH video?

Wouldn't get into a twist over this, after all, FOX has been manipulating every video of Trump for at least six years to 'fix' his deer in the headlights look, his omnipresent scowl, his ever-leering side looks at legs and his downcast body mannerisms of obedience whenever a Russian is nearby.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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14.1  Tessylo  replied to  bbl-1 @14    2 years ago

LOL!  Spot on re:  the trumpturd.  

 
 

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