Chip Roy Declares Military Should Be 'Killing People And Blowing Stuff Up'
By: Emine Yucel
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In a Fox Business interview Thursday, Rep. Chip Roy (R-TX) tried to clear up what exactly Republicans want to cut in exchange for raising the debt ceiling. Tried is the key word because, well… they have no idea.
During the at times bonkers interview, Roy offered some vague answers to the question that he and his colleagues haven't been able to answer for weeks. He said the party wants to "freeze the woke weaponized bureaucracy" and "go to war" with "bureaucrats" to save the country.
"The bureaucrats are the enemy," Roy said on Fox Business. "The American people are what drive this country forward. Let's go to war with the enemy and the bureaucrats. Let's save this country and I think that's what the Republican message ought to be."
This comes shortly after Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) and President Biden met at the White House. The two sat down on Wednesday to discuss how and when to raise the nation's debt ceiling as House Republicans continue to vow to hold it hostage until they get what they want.
What do they want exactly? No one — including House Republicans — seems to know.
The White House has been publicly emphasizing for weeks that the President refuses to "negotiate" with Republicans on a debt limit hike, calling on Congress to swiftly pass a bill to increase the debt ceiling with no strings attached. Republicans have spun that stance up to mean that Democrats refuse to negotiate on the federal budget, an entirely different issue that the GOP wants Americans to think is in fact the same thing.
"The most important thing coming out of yesterday is that President Biden is in fact going to negotiate with a co-equal branch of government," Roy said. "He's gonna negotiate. He has to."
Republicans have been facing staunch criticism from House and Senate Democrats, not just for holding the debt ceiling hostage but also for refusing to unveil any proposed spending cuts that they want to see as part of debt ceiling negotiations.
Last week, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) dared House Republicans to lay out the spending cuts they're proposing as part of a deal to raise the debt ceiling instead of taking part in "brinkmanship" and "hostage taking."
Some critics are saying the lack of a public plan suggests that House Republicans don't have an actual plan laid out and are once again divided amongst themselves on the issue.
Roy disagrees.
"We know what we want," Roy said. "We want to see the '24 spending level revert back to the pre '23 omnibus explosion. We want to get it back to '22 levels and importantly we want to freeze the woke weaponized bureaucracy…"
"Joe Biden is the one who will default on the debt if anybody does it," he added, without acknowledging that Republicans are actually the ones trying to hold the debt ceiling hostage. "No one else. Joe Biden and Joe Biden alone will make that decision. Because we are putting down right now what we want to demand for the American people, which is getting the government out of their way, growing this economy and restoring America where it needs to be."
But despite all the big words, neither Roy nor any other Republican have introduced an actual plan on how they would like to cut the country's budget.
Through the nine minute interview, Roy wasn't able to identify a single specific cut Republicans can make but he did say what they need more funding for — "a non-woke defense, that is actually trying to do the job of lethality of killing people and blowing stuff up."
"Let's have the dollars we need to defend the country," Roy said. "Cut waste over there but do what we need to do to buy bombers and planes and bullets and train people. By the way, a non-woke defense, that is actually trying to do the job of lethality of killing people and blowing stuff up. That's what the defense is supposed to do.
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That is about it in a nutshell.
You said "nuts".
He's fucking nuts all right.
Offense, defense....
I want you all to know I finally said fuck it when it gave me that red squiggly line. I don't know what but I always spelled it offence.
And now it is not giving me the line....
Brit?
No but I have always spelled like them.
So... no error. Different.
I caught myself one time putting a u in harbour. It just seemed normal and natural.
Oh!
Chip Roy? When I saw that name, it sounded like the name of a cookie.
Rob Roy's cousin without the vermouth.
The Rob Roy was a celebrated Scottish Jacobite revolutionary against the English Crown
Celebrated with a "'cocktail" of Whiskey & Vermouth created by an American bartender in 1894 at the opening of an Operetta "Rob Roy" in Manhattan the same year.
I'd try it if I had some vermouth, lol...
I was a bartender for a few years in the early 80's, I think I made 3 of those, total. plenty of manhattans tho...
for those years, my martini's never even saw the dry vermouth bottle and all the frozen foo-foo drinks only got a splash of 151 on top. this while people claimed those drinks were the best they'd ever had. once I watched a table act all shitfaced after drinking round after round of bloody mary's only to realize after they left that the vodka hadn't been added to the premix. oops. the restaurant manager worshiped me, ... and then he started hitting the sauce hard.
I preferred the movie(s) although I didn't attend the Rob Roy Operetta.
I hate both Scotch and Vermouth too.
"Chip" Roy is from Texas, so "Chip" must be a reference to "buffalo chip" (actually a "cow pie").
So, "Cow Pie Roy" advocates, "a non-woke defense, that is actually trying to do the job of lethality of killing people and blowing stuff up." Butt he doesn't say who he wants them to kill or what "stuff" he wants blown up.
The Republicans can't specify budget cuts nor can poor old "Cow Pie" even identify his enemy.
What the fuck? Go to war with who exactly and who exactly are the 'enemy' and the 'bureaucrats'?
What's the 'woke weaponized bureaucracy'?
What the fuck?
"A non-woke defense, that is actually trying to do the job of lethality of killing people and blowing stuff up"?
Again, what the fuck?
Are these freaking whackjobs on steroids or what?
They'll make up an enemy like Bush II did
we're the enemy now...
happy to share a list for both...
is every republican politician in texas either a dipshit or a criminal?
let me rephrase that. which republican politicians in texas aren't dipshits or criminals?
The gop is hell bent on putting US into default!
Don't be ridiculous
IMNAAHO, the Dems should let them hang themselves.
The Democrats hung themselves well before midterms- and were rewarded for it.
Republicans need to let the debt limit default and then hang it on the Democrats for not being willing to negotiate on spending reduction.
McConnell and the Senate Republicans that went along with the Democrat's omnibus over spending bill should be left on the same hook. They screwed any chance of lowering spending by not waiting until Republicans were power in the House to negotiate as equals with the Senate.
I do t think refusjj in g to pay for shit we already bought, and the. Refusing to pay for it am ruining everyone’s bank accounts is a god love for the GOP.
I agree, because that's always worked out so well for republicans in the past. careful picking those poison pills.
The debt ceiling only addresses the amount of money the Treasury can legally borrow to pay for
debts already authorized by Congress.
Congress is responsible for managing its own mess, no one else.
Exactly. They're also responsible for passing a budget so, if they want to cut the budget they should cut the budget. The trouble is that they won't really cut the budget. Any money they do cut will be spent on their war on the dems.
GOPers can't cut corporate welfare programs with the next "most important election of our lifetime" coming up. there won't be any kickbacks left over to cover the cost of all the RNC campaigns.
The “debt ceiling” is beyond stupid. As you said, congress already spent the money, what they are talking about is paying the tab. Basically the GOP, and this is ONLY the GOP that does this, is debating that we should maybe try to skip out on the bill after eating at the restaurant.
US debt is still considered to be the safest investment on earth BECAUSE we pay our debts. We always have. On top of that, we owe the majority of that debt to ourselves, what the fuck do you think a savings bond is? The SS fund is the largest holder of US debt by far.
Lol. Might want to do some research on Schumer/Pelosi.
So aside from the Soviet “whataboutism” do you any other thoughts?
I doubt it...
Yep.
The "debt ceiling" is addressed in the Constitution:
Fourteenth Amendment, Section 4:
The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.
Although Section 4 was undoubtedly inspired by the desire to put beyond question the obligations of the government issued during the Civil War, its language indicates a broader connotation. . . . '[T]he validity of the public debt'. . . [embraces] whatever concerns the integrity of the public obligations, and applies to government bonds issued after as well as before adoption of the Amendment. 1
A writer from the NY Times was on the news last night and wants the debt ceiling declared
UnConstitutional, because it's not there.
Is that like a buffalo chip? He sounds about as intelligent as a road apple.
that dude is a moron...
This is not new. There have been no ideas from the right for decades. Not since Reagan, and all his ideas - trickle down, lower taxes generate greater revenue, ... - have shown themselves to be wrong.
This is true for the Tea Party, MAGA, McConnell, all of them. A few years ago, here on NT, I asked for policy ideas from our rightish members. I suggested some areas that could be improved. NOTHING.
They are against lots of things, but for nothing. They all know this at some level, although many practice denial far and wide. Their emptiness makes them bitter. Their bitterness fuels them in online forums.
The Republicans keep trying to sell their bullshit propaganda. It's amazing how many people actually fall for it.
racking up a shit load of debt and then refusing to pay the invoices is so trumpian...
Does anyone really believe Trumpian BS? Or is there a lot of wink-winking going on?
It's partly owning the libs, but it's mostly avoiding recognizing ignorance and error.
The Republicans are in the process of ruining their chances for success in the next election. They are not learning the lesson the 2022 results was trying to teach them.
The majority of Americans are losing interest in fighting wokeism as the be all end all.
By the way, Trump said today that Ron DeSantis shed tears as he begged Trump to endorse him in his first election for governor. May they tear each other apart.
get woke or go broke, trumpsters...
This is why I disregard the horseshit slogans like “cut government spending” or a “balanced budget”. Anytime you actually ask for details you get one of two answers, absurd proposals that don’t make sense on any level, or silence. The fiscal hawks are completely full of shit, they have no real ideas or suggestions, it’s just a way to try and get votes.
if you do not include tax increases anywhere in your proposal to lower deficit spending, you are a fucking joke and need to be ignored.
Exactly. Their fantasy national debt has always been bull-shit. Operating "in debt" is how capitalism works. It's why we have banks and insurance companies, to ensure a constant state of indebtedness. These fascist fucks can't accept the fact that their religion and money have two things in common, both are based on faith and have no intrinsic value.
I am also tired of the idea that national debt is a bad thing. Americas debt is considered to be the most secure asset on planet earth. People, corporations, other government agencies, and other nations buy it up for a reason.
On top of that, America is not a household. That comparison is retarded on its face.
In the late 90s there was a panic that the US wouldn’t have any national debt. The fear was that if US debt (aka treasuries) weren’t available, what would be the bedrock asset of the global economy?
easy on the fascist shit. I happen to know what fascism is and take it literally, nor its uses lightly.
And yes, I am a resident asshole.
You? Never....
Haha
well, maybe once or twice.
Shocking of course.
Gotta respect someone that doesn't hold back.
I never do.
Not all fascists are nazis. While xenophobia is an integral part of fascism, along with authoritarianism, not all fascists openly promote genocide. Mussolini killed people, and put people in jail for xenophobic reasons, but he never tried for a "final solution". Same for Franco in Spain, the colonels in Greece... and so on.
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I always thought it was moronic when people lower taxes then complain about spending (with no specifics)....
Then complain about debt or deficit.
Then turn around and preach for lower taxes....
Of course. In inflation adjusted dollars, our debt was pretty flat in the late 40's through the 70's ranging from $2.8 trillion to $3.3 trillion. Now our economy has taken off and fortunately we have a adjusted debt of $31 trillion.
It does not matter. The UK, after WWI, carried 250% debt, with no problem. If we start to have problems selling US bonds, the we should get worried, but not until. And US bonds are selling very well, thank you very much!
Long as we pay it, what is the problem?
yep, it's just like credit card dept, keep paying at least the minimum.
It really is. We have already made the charge....
Start with the MAGA.
All the proposals I've seen either heavily cut into the poor and lower middle class OR enrich the upper 5%. None of the actual help cut debt. What's needed is not so much a cut in spending, but an increase in revenue by cutting subsidies and tax breaks to big businesses. There is no good reason I can think of for businesses to generate record profits and still pay little to no tax. Any corporation paying no taxes should have their "personhood" status stripped as well it's the dumbest thing I've ever heard of in a long list of dumb things.
Most of Congress works full time for the wealthy. The rest of Congress works part time for the wealthy.
So your observations are perfectly logical.
Your statement is half true.
Are you saying that there are some Congresspeople who never work for the wealthy... or that all Congresspeople work full time for the wealthy. Both are kinda improbable.
No. What I am saying is that there are elected officials who believe the tax structures unfairly favor the rich at the expense of the lower economic tiers. Unfortunately, because of the authority of wealth these 'officials' do not have the power to rectify the tax laws.
I agree.
So which half of 11.2 is false?
Choose. Choose wisely.
Eeny-meeny...
texas on the gulf -
the biggest trump flag on a truck
the highest trump flag on a truck
the most trump flags on a truck
the most offensive trump flags
Truthfully, except for the moron who screwed his signs to the side of his house, it is near impossible to find a Trump flag here anymore.
I didn't even mention all the flags on their stupid golf carts. you need to drive down the beach sometime...
“…it is near impossible to find a Trump flag here anymore.”
If only.
Live in an ultra red congressional district with boebert as their representative. The flags still fly high and proud. Still hanging and haranguing…
Padre Island National Seashore
Mustang Island
Corpus Christi
San Jose Island
Galveston
Kayaking
Turtle Hatchings
Scuba
Fishing
Mardi Gras
hemp shops
meth
brain dead goobers