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Matt Gaetz: MAGA will turn to 'bloodshed' if Trump's crimes exclude him from ballot - Raw Story

  
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Matt Gaetz: MAGA will turn to 'bloodshed' if Trump's crimes exclude him from ballot - Raw Story
Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) predicted "bloodshed" from the MAGA movement if Donald Trump is convicted of crimes and not permitted on state ballots. During a Wednesday interview on the Driveway Liberty Podcast, Gaetz mentioned the possibility of "violence" ahead of the 2024 presidential election. "I...

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Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) predicted "bloodshed" from the MAGA movement if Donald Trump is convicted of crimes and not permitted on state ballots.

During a Wednesday interview on the Driveway Liberty Podcast, Gaetz mentioned the possibility of "violence" ahead of the 2024 presidential election.

"It turns out they'll let anybody have these jobs who gets the most votes," Gaetz said. "Well, you know, and now they're trying to change that. Like what we were talking about earlier with, you know, with secretaries of state trying to decide certain, you know, Trump can't even be on the ballot."

The podcast host argued that keeping Trump off the ballot had "been the plan from the beginning."

"I really worry that that type of action could lead to violence," Gaetz agreed. "And I am so wildly opposed to violence. I don't think it's how we should resolve our disputes."

"But when you start telling people that they can't express their participation in this American experience through a vote, then they start looking for other ways, and they're not, the vote is the best way to do it," he continued. "The other ways are not so good. And I worry if they start to take the vote away, you could see bloodshed in this country. Like none of us want."

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devangelical
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1  seeder  devangelical    8 months ago

he and his pals are about to hit a wall at the end of the month...

sorry, I couldn't find a picture of this maga POS with his mouth closed...

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @1    8 months ago

Scumlappingshitbags - it's not Democrats taking away people's votes away.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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1.1.1  Ronin2  replied to  Tessylo @1.1    8 months ago

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JohnRussell
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2  JohnRussell    8 months ago

what do these rwnj think will happen if Trump gets put back in office?  a kumbaya picnic? 

America desperately needs the kind of mass protests of millions of people like they had in Israel (and iran). 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @2    8 months ago

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Ronin2
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2.2  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @2    8 months ago

Democrats are trying to use the federal government and institutions to get rid of their chief political opponent. That type of crap only happens in third world dictatorships, China, and Russia.

The fact they are shocked people are upset about it tells you just how out of touch with reality they are.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.2.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Ronin2 @2.2    8 months ago

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Gsquared
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2.2.2  Gsquared  replied to  Ronin2 @2.2    8 months ago

Lock him up!

 
 
 
Ronin2
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2.2.3  Ronin2  replied to  Gsquared @2.2.2    8 months ago

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Wishful_thinkin
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2.2.4  Wishful_thinkin  replied to  Ronin2 @2.2.3    8 months ago

You people have been investigating the Clintons for 30 years and have found shit.  

As for Biden, keep investigating and when (and if) you find something real, I'll support indicting him too.  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.2.5  Sean Treacy  replied to  Wishful_thinkin @2.2.4    8 months ago
e been investigating the Clintons for 30 years and have found shit.  

Lol.  Except all the Clinton cronies who went to jail and Bill himself having to reach a settlement with prosecutors to avoid indictment  (not to mention the money he paid Paula Jones for asexually harassing her. 

 
 
 
Wishful_thinkin
Freshman Silent
2.2.6  Wishful_thinkin  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.2.5    8 months ago

And yet nothing to "lock them up" on.  And if you want to talk about paying money to people who were sexually assaulted by someone, then maybe take a look at your own side.  You have no moral high ground here.    

 
 
 
Ronin2
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2.2.7  Ronin2  replied to  Wishful_thinkin @2.2.4    8 months ago

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Duck Hawk
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2.2.8  Duck Hawk  replied to  Ronin2 @2.2    8 months ago

Maybe its something about the 91 indictments that makes people turn away from him...

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.2.9  Sean Treacy  replied to  Wishful_thinkin @2.2.6    8 months ago
 And if you want to talk about paying money to people who were sexually assaulted by someone, then maybe take a look at your own side.

Nice deflection!  Avoiding admitting you misstated the truth by pivoting to But Trump!

You have no moral high ground here.    

My facts are right. 

 
 
 
Duck Hawk
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2.2.10  Duck Hawk  replied to  Ronin2 @2.2.3    8 months ago

If you want to investigate the "Brandon Clan," then you MUST investigate the Trump Clan. something about a deal Jared made with the Saudis...

 
 
 
bugsy
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2.2.11  bugsy  replied to  Ronin2 @2.2.3    8 months ago

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Wishful_thinkin
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2.2.12  Wishful_thinkin  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.2.5    8 months ago

Just looked up the Clinton "settlement with prosecutors to avoid indictment" and found the it's the same old lying about a blow job.  If you think lying about a blow job is on par with the indictments that TFG is under, then that's a YOU problem, not to mention all of TFG's cronies that are under indictment or already have gone to prison.  You have no moral high ground here.   

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.2.13  Tessylo  replied to  Ronin2 @2.2    8 months ago

Wow, that last sentence there REALLY takes the cake.  That whole comment is nonsense, as usual, but again, that last sentence, no self-awareness whatsoever.   Now I remember why you were on ignore, now back on ignore.

 
 
 
Wishful_thinkin
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2.2.14  Wishful_thinkin  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.2.9    8 months ago
Nice deflection!  Avoiding admitting you misstated the truth by pivoting to But Trump!

You can't mention Clinton's sexual indiscretions without bringing up Trump's sexual indiscretions because, morally, they are both wrong.  Trump's isn't any better because he's on your side so your "But Trump" fails bigly.  Again, no moral high ground now matter which way you look at it.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.2.15  Tessylo  replied to  Wishful_thinkin @2.2.4    8 months ago

They have Clinton and Hunter Biden derangement syndrome.

 
 
 
Wishful_thinkin
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2.2.16  Wishful_thinkin  replied to  Ronin2 @2.2.7    8 months ago

All of which were extensively investigated by Republicans who, in the end, found there was no there there.  Second, I don't give a shit about Hunter Biden.  Lock the fucker away and throw way the key. 

If your side actually finds proof, real proof, that Biden was involved, then indict him, and I'll support it.  

Finally, No one wants to turn the USA into China.  That's nothing but a wackadoodle conservative talking point because you can't stand that your guy broke the fucking law.  But if you people really want to have a second civil war, then get off your asses and start it or STFU.  You all are nothing but a bunch of keyboard warriors who won't to shit.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.2.17  Tessylo  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.2.9    8 months ago

'my facts are right'

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RWNJ maybe, but not correct,

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.2.18  Sean Treacy  replied to  Wishful_thinkin @2.2.14    8 months ago
You can't mention Clinton's sexual indiscretions without bringing up Trump's sexual indiscretions because, morally, they are both wron

I can if we are only discussing the Clintons and your claim they did nothing wrong. Trump has nothing to do with what the Clintons did or didn't do. 

mp's isn't any better because he's on your side so your "But Trump" fails bigly

I'm not sure you understand what's happening. You played the "But Trump" card to deflect from your clearly erroneous statement that no one found shit on the Clintons. 

ain, no moral high ground now matter which way you look at it

I've been saying Trump is the same as Bill Clinton since he came on the scene. You don't have to convince me. 

 
 
 
Wishful_thinkin
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2.2.19  Wishful_thinkin  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.2.18    8 months ago
I'm not sure you understand what's happening. You played the "But Trump" card to deflect from your clearly erroneous statement that no one found shit on the Clintons. 

Ok, so they haven't found shit on the Clintons to charge them with a crime and lock them up.  

I can if we are only discussing the Clintons and your claim they did nothing wrong. Trump has nothing to do with what the Clintons did or didn't do. 

First, the seed isn't about the Clintons now is it?  You're side deflected from the subject of the article (which is your side's turning to blood shed if TRUMP'S CRIMES exclude him from the ballot) to INCLUDE THE CLINTONS.  The article refers to TRUMP'S CRIMES, so I didn't deflect to anything.  I actually brought the comments back to the subject of the article.  

Second, just because YOU don't want to discuss Trump's sexual indiscretions and the judgment against him for the same, doesn't mean that his sexual infidelities are not on the table.  Again, YOU just don't want to discuss it because he's on YOUR side.  Citing one without the other just makes you hypocrite.   

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.2.20  Trout Giggles  replied to  Wishful_thinkin @2.2.16    8 months ago

They're too chicken.

Just like little Matty Gaetz. First sound of a gunshot and he'll be running

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.2.21  Trout Giggles  replied to  Wishful_thinkin @2.2.19    8 months ago

beautiful!

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3  Jeremy Retired in NC    8 months ago
During a Wednesday interview on the Driveway Liberty Podcast, Gaetz mentioned the possibility of "violence" ahead of the 2024 presidential election.

According to the article:

"I really worry that that type of action could lead to violence," Gaetz agreed. "And I am so wildly opposed to violence. I don't think it's how we should resolve our disputes." "But when you start telling people that they can't express their participation in this American experience through a vote, then they start looking for other ways, and they're not, the vote is the best way to do it," he continued. "The other ways are not so good. And I worry if they start to take the vote away, you could see bloodshed in this country. Like none of us want."

Doesn't sound like he's calling for "bloodshed".  

 
 
 
Tacos!
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3.1  Tacos!  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3    8 months ago
Doesn't sound like he's calling for "bloodshed".

No? Consider this:

Does it sound like he’s calling on people to respect the process? Does it sound like he will honor decisions rendered in court by a jury?

Doesn’t sound like it to me. Sounds to me like he’s presenting a very limited choice to MAGA nation: If you don’t get what you want, you have no recourse but violence.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Tacos! @3.1    8 months ago
Does it sound like he’s calling on people to respect the process?

Sounds like he's saying: 

"And I am so wildly opposed to violence. I don't think it's how we should resolve our disputes." 

You know, like the article states.

Does it sound like he will honor decisions rendered in court by a jury?

Nothing in the article about a jury.  So why bring in something that isn't in the article?  I know what you are implying and not going to play your "what if" game.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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3.1.2  Tacos!  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1.1    8 months ago
I know what you are implying and not going to play your "what if" game.

This whole article is a “what if” game.

You know what I’m implying because the course and the choices that may lie in the future are clear. They’re clear to Matt Gaetz, too. But when you realize how ugly Gaetz’s approach is, then you don’t want to play anymore.

That’s actually cool. Don’t play. It’s not a game we should be playing. I hope you see that now.

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.1.3  bugsy  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1.1    8 months ago

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Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Tacos! @3.1.2    8 months ago

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cjcold
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4  cjcold    8 months ago

So do no Republicans care about the constitution or the rule of law?

 
 
 
devangelical
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4.1  seeder  devangelical  replied to  cjcold @4    8 months ago

... only when they need to hide behind it.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @4.1    8 months ago

or run from it

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  cjcold @4    8 months ago

John just said the same thing Gaetz did. 

Funny how that's acceptable. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.2    8 months ago
John just said the same thing Gaetz did. 

Not at all. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.2.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2.1    8 months ago

Gaetz says if Democrats attack Democracy and keep people from voting for who they want there may be repercussions.

You say the same will happen if Trump wins. Its not going to be a kumbaya picnic if  democrats lose,  right?  That's what you said. 

 
 
 
JBB
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4.2.3  JBB  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.2.2    8 months ago

Yet, considering Trump is going to be the gop nominee in 2024 your chances of defeating Democrats in 2024 are infinitesimal...

 
 
 
Tacos!
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5  Tacos!    8 months ago
And I am so wildly opposed to violence

Yeah, sure you are. Says the guy who said he was “proud of the work we did” on January 6.

you could see bloodshed in this country

Shows what you believe about Trump supporters. They don’t get what they want, they’ll get violent. Interesting that no one worries about that with Biden.

What he should be saying is that we have a system of justice; Trump will get his day (many days, actually) in court; and whatever the outcome, the rest of us will have to respect it and live with it. Same with elections, and same with the 60-something attempts Trump made to dispute the election in the courts.

Trump, Gaetz, et al are the ones trying to convince their supporters that there is no system of laws and justice, so that the only way they get what they want is through violence. And then, surprise! That indoctrination (they love that word when they use it on someone else) actually works. They go out and commit violence in real life. Well done, assholes!

 
 
 
Tessylo
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5.1  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @5    8 months ago

I've been chastised and mocked for using my Projection, Deflection &Denial 'comment/phrase' and lately adding delusion, and honestly perhaps I overdo it sometimes, but most often it is true that what Democrats are accused of is simply PD&D+D,

 
 
 
cjcold
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5.1.1  cjcold  replied to  Tessylo @5.1    8 months ago
I've been chastised

Not by me darlin. I have always liked your style.

 
 
 
GregTx
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5.1.2  GregTx  replied to  cjcold @5.1.1    8 months ago

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Tessylo
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5.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  cjcold @5.1.1    8 months ago

You're a sweetie.  It's not people I like or respect or who I consider friends, quite the opposite.

Plus jrSmiley_93_smiley_image.jpg

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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5.1.4  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  cjcold @5.1.1    8 months ago

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Tessylo
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5.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.4    8 months ago

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Buzz of the Orient
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6  Buzz of the Orient    8 months ago
"Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) predicted "bloodshed" from the MAGA movement..."

"Bloodshed?"  What bloodshed?  So many guns in America.  So many people with guns in America.   There was a day way back when I can remember, people just got mad and yelled or smacked a face, or went so far as to hit them, but now so many people have guns and are itching to use them, and they do, they really do.  I read about the shootings almost every single day on the American media.  I have no doubt that Trump will summon his supporters to do whatever it takes to back him up. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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6.1  Tessylo  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @6    8 months ago

The former 'president' and his enablers/supporters do it on a daily basis (regarding your last sentence), he's been doing it since he lost bigly and incited them to do .what they did on 1/6 as he watched, 'They're doing this for me'

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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6.1.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Tessylo @6.1    8 months ago

I'm so impressed with the active members on this site that only YOU have agreed with my observation about guns in America - which speaks very loud words to me.  I'm sure that the news I just read that a 3 year old just shot a toddler to death will mean that what I expect to hear is that it's because the toddler didn't have a gun to defend himself.  Welcome to America, the land of the AR-15 and home of the Smith and Wesson - may as well rewrite the anthem.

Toddler Shot, Killed By 3 Y.O. With Gun ....LINK->

 
 
 
Tessylo
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6.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @6.1.1    8 months ago

true Buzz they'll blame everyone and everything except for the problem itself and then demand more guns

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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6.1.3  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Tessylo @6.1.2    8 months ago

Why not.  After all, happiness is a warm gun.  (Where have I heard that before?)

 
 
 
cjcold
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6.1.4  cjcold  replied to  Tessylo @6.1.2    8 months ago

This liberal grew up in a small town gun toting community. 

Have carried a gun every day for many decades now.

Past occupations kind of make it par for the course. Have a permit.

Wallet? check. Keys? check. Watch? check. Glasses? check. Shoes? check. Clothes? check. Knife? check. Pistol? check.

Have rarely been forced to pull, much less ever use one.

In many stress situations have always found a better way.

Now that you know, hope we can still be friends.

 

 
 
 
Kavika
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7  Kavika     8 months ago

Matt Gaetz, our local village idiot.

 
 
 
cjcold
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7.1  cjcold  replied to  Kavika @7    8 months ago

Ya kind of pissed me off the other day but over all.....................

 
 
 
JBB
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8  JBB    8 months ago

Bring It MAGA Losers!

 
 

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