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Trump Tells Reuters 'We Shouldn't Even Have an Election' Ahead of Midterms

  
Via:  Gsquared  •  10 months ago  •  96 comments

By:   Yahoo News

Trump Tells Reuters 'We Shouldn't Even Have an Election' Ahead of Midterms
President Donald Trump managed expectations for the upcoming midterm elections, acknowledging he's frustrated with the potential of Republicans losing.

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President Donald Trump mused that "we shouldn't even have an election" in an interview with Reuters published on Thursday.

During the sit-down, the president "expressed frustration that his Republican Party could lose control of the U.S. House of Representatives or the Senate in this year's midterm elections." Trump noted that president's party often takes some midterm losses after a presidential victory.

"It's some deep psychological thing, but when you win the presidency, you don't win the midterms," he said.

Reuters then noted that Trump expressed that his administration had accomplished so much already that "when you think of it, we shouldn't even have an election."

Trump also spoke to the outlet about a number of other topics, including his desire to absorb Greenland, ongoing protests in Iran, and more.

The president previously promised anti-government protesters in Iran that "help" was on the way amid reports of authorities killing thousands of demonstrators. Speaking to reporters this week, Trump suggested the killing was "stopping," leading to backlash among his own party members.

Trump was "noncommittal" in his Reuters interview about future plans regarding Iran.

"We have to play it day by day," he said.

Trump also dismissed a Reuters/Ipsos survey that found most Americans do not support his Greenland plan as "fake." The poll showed only 4% of Americans support the idea of absorbing Greenland. The president argued that he follows his own gut instincts on issues like Greenland and other moves that have received pushback, including a criminal probe into Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell.

"A lot of times, you can't convince a voter," he said. "You have to just do what's right. And then a lot of the things I did were not really politically popular. They turned out to be when it worked out so well."

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Gsquared
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1  seeder  Gsquared    10 months ago

White House Press Secretary said Trump was "simply joking".

No, he wasn't.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Gsquared @1    10 months ago

I stumbled onto a video of Leavitt's press briefing today. That one is a piece of work. 

One of the few non Maga reporters allowed to speak asked her about this. She said "you werent in the room" and then went immediately to the next question. 

 
 
 
Gsquared
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1.1.1  seeder  Gsquared  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1    10 months ago

The last thing she wants to get into a public discussion about is der Fuhrer's dictatorial ambitions.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2  devangelical  replied to  Gsquared @1    10 months ago

POS/POTUS usually floats trial balloons to gauge public sentiment before he violates the constitution ...

 
 
 
shona1
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1.2.1  shona1  replied to  devangelical @1.2    10 months ago

Morning...does this mean you mob get to vote? Or is it just for the galahs in Parliament?

Please don't let it be you mob, sob, not another friggin 10 months of US elections bombarding our dumb arse news services here..

Just shoot me now..sob, it's more than a koala should have to bare..🐨

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2.2  devangelical  replied to  shona1 @1.2.1    10 months ago

we'll let you know which maga yobbos have escaped our next civil war when they arrive there. you can keep what they brought to cover the cost of busing them 500km from any sign of civilization to collect any trash that may litter the outback ...

 
 
 
Krishna
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1.2.3  Krishna  replied to  shona1 @1.2.1    10 months ago
Or is it just for the galahs in Parliament?

Thanks for that-- I learned a new word today!  jrSmiley_2_smiley_image.png

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2  Right Down the Center    10 months ago

After 10 years of Trump in the spotlight it is amazing how easy it is for Trump to push so many buttons.

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Gsquared
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2.1  seeder  Gsquared  replied to  Right Down the Center @2    10 months ago

After Trump providing the worst presidency in American history, it's amazing how many magas continue to slavishly defend and support him.  

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Gsquared @2.1    10 months ago

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Tacos!
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2.2  Tacos!  replied to  Right Down the Center @2    10 months ago
After 10 years of Trump in the spotlight it is amazing how easy it is for Trump to push so many buttons.

So it’s the rest of us who are assholes for being concerned about this? 

How many other US presidents have said we shouldn’t have elections? Hint: I’m pretty sure it’s a round number. Like THE round number.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.2.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tacos! @2.2    10 months ago

Never said anything about being asshole. 

Let me know when he actually does anything about not having midterms or it is once again much ado about nothing.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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2.2.2  Jack_TX  replied to  Tacos! @2.2    10 months ago
So it’s the rest of us who are assholes for being concerned about this?

Not assholes. Just a bit silly.

Why does anybody believe what he says anymore?  Why would anybody believe anything he's said in the last 10 years?  

Did Mexico pay for a wall?  Is he a stable genius?  Did he repeal the Affordable Care Act?  

Or is he just full of shit?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.2.3  Right Down the Center  replied to  Jack_TX @2.2.2    10 months ago

I can't tell what the formula is but is seems many on the left can go from he always lies to he is telling the truth several times a day. Maybe it is just an email blast sent out by Hakeem Jeffries 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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2.2.4  Tacos!  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.2.1    10 months ago
Never said anything about being asshole.

That’s my language interpreting the import of your words. I never claimed to be quoting you so let’s not get distracted by pointless whining.

So, to restate the issue in simpler terms (apparently that’s needed here), who is more wrong? Trump for saying it? Or the rest of us for being bothered by it?

Let me know when he actually does anything…

No. This is no longer an excuse you can hide behind.

When he promised to unleash ICE on America for his greatest, most beautiful mass deportation ever, people like you said it was impossible or he was exaggerating and we shouldn’t worry about it.

When we said he would use the office to enrich himself, people like you said “let me know when he actually tries it.” No longer!

He IS doing the things he said he would do and people like you said we we were fools to listen to him.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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2.2.5  Tacos!  replied to  Jack_TX @2.2.2    10 months ago
Not assholes. Just a bit silly.

No. Trump is the silly one. Why does no one on the Right have the courage to say so?

Why does anybody believe what he says anymore?

Because he is doing all the things he said he would. All the things that people like you and RTDC (see @2.2.4) said he would not do.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.2.6  TᵢG  replied to  Jack_TX @2.2.2    10 months ago
Why does anybody believe what he says anymore? 

JFC, this is not about believing what he said.

You are reading criticism of a person who is wholly unfit to hold the power of the US presidency.

Trump opens his mouth and says things.   His rhetoric can and should be criticized.  Criticism does not require one to first believe his words.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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2.2.7  Jack_TX  replied to  Tacos! @2.2.5    10 months ago
No. Trump is the silly one.

What makes you think there is only one? 

Why does no one on the Right have the courage to say so?

Describe the point of that exercise.

Because he is doing all the things he said he would. All the things that people like you and RTDC (see  @2.2.4 ) said he would not do.

"People like you"?   Niiiiice.   

Who is that, exactly?  Tall people?  Golfers?  Cigar smokers?  Who are we talking about? 

And why am I being held responsible for things other people said?  

What.... specifically... did I.... specifically... say he wouldn't do that he has actually accomplished?

 
 
 
JBB
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2.2.8  JBB  replied to  Tacos! @2.2.5    10 months ago

DNFTT

 
 
 
Tacos!
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2.2.9  Tacos!  replied to  Jack_TX @2.2.7    10 months ago

That reply is going in the Sea Lion Hall of Fame. Holy shit.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Right Down the Center @2    10 months ago

When a public official has done hundreds of objectionable things it is a little hard to get worked up about one of them . 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.3.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @2.3    10 months ago

There is a difference between getting worked up about some things (there are plenty of valid ones to choose from) and getting worked up about everything 

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.3.2  devangelical  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.3.1    10 months ago

I'm looking forward to trump trying to invoke the insurrection act or attempting to call off the midterms ...

 
 
 
Tacos!
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2.4  Tacos!  replied to  Right Down the Center @2    10 months ago

Which part of it is fake?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.4.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tacos! @2.4    10 months ago

Just the part that he was seriously contemplating doing away with elections when he said things are going so well we shouldn't need elections

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.4.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.4.1    10 months ago

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Sean Treacy
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2.4.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.4.2    10 months ago

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TᵢG
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2.4.4  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.4.1    10 months ago

You claim that this is fake?:

Reuters then noted that Trump expressed that his administration had accomplished so much already that "when you think of it, we shouldn't even have an election."
 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.4.5  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @2.4.4    10 months ago

Read my comment again. The answer is right there.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.4.6  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.4.5    10 months ago

There is no way to know that Trump was joking.   His claim of outrageous tariffs turned out to be real.   This guy does not think he has any bounds.

It is foolish to assume that this is a normal PotUS who respects the law, honors the obligations of the presidency, etc.

This is a psychopath who thinks he can get away with almost anything.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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2.4.7  Tacos!  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.4.1    10 months ago

I thought I was commenting on a picture you posted. Was that a different comment?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.4.8  Trout Giggles  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.4.1    10 months ago

So when should we believe him? I've asked this question before and got blown off

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.4.9  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @2.4.6    10 months ago
There is no way to know that Trump was joking.

There is no way to be positive about much of anything.[✘]

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.4.10  Right Down the Center  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.4.8    10 months ago

I have always said take everything he says with a pound of salt.[✘]

 
 
 
Gsquared
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2.4.11  seeder  Gsquared  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.4.9    10 months ago
Getting upset

The only people getting upset are the Trump supporters who can't stand that we are mocking their Lord and Master.

 
 
 
Gsquared
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2.4.12  seeder  Gsquared  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.4.10    10 months ago
Better yet don't spend all day stalking his to see everything he says.

Why not?  It's interesting to see how idiotic he is.  

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.4.13  Right Down the Center  replied to  Gsquared @2.4.12    10 months ago

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Right Down the Center
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2.4.14  Right Down the Center  replied to  Gsquared @2.4.11    10 months ago
The only people getting upset are the Trump supporters who can't stand that we are mocking their Lord and Master.

Go ahead, some are even funny.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.4.15  JohnRussell  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.4.8    10 months ago

The defense of the president of the United States has come down to this - "dont listen to him".

It is ridiculous and they are ridiculous people for saying it. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.4.16  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @2.4.15    10 months ago

I don't think they know what to think anymore.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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2.4.17  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.4.16    10 months ago
don't think they know what to think anymore.

or how

 
 
 
Gsquared
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2.4.18  seeder  Gsquared  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.4.14    10 months ago

You seem to think he's as big a buffoon and a lying fraud as most of the country does.

 
 
 
Gsquared
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2.4.19  seeder  Gsquared  replied to  JohnRussell @2.4.15    10 months ago
"don't listen to him"

If he would go away we wouldn't need to.

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.4.20  devangelical  replied to  Gsquared @2.4.12    10 months ago
It's interesting to see how idiotic he is

sad, but I actually enjoy watching trump's descent into dementia in real time. the frosting on the cake is watching his moronic supporter chorus sing "nothing to see here" in unison, while portraying their golden calf and his ideological bowel movements as perfectly normal to them and those that don't share their collective opinion are wrong ...

 
 
 
CB
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2.4.21  CB  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.4.16    10 months ago

Oh they know. Why do I write so? Because MAGA supporters are on par with Trump. They know (Trump too) that they only thing keeping Trump and the GOP in the political game right now. . . is MAGA supporters. If/when they 'fall off' in numbers that matter. . . Trump will be at the mercy of those he has caused great harm and disservice.  They know where they are positioned in this game of power (thrones) and 'chicken.' 

 
 
 
CB
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2.4.22  CB  replied to  Gsquared @2.4.19    10 months ago

When. . . if the GOP performs badly in the midterms will they hold Trump accountable for his bad judgement that got them booted out of complete control over the federal systems in this country? That is what inquiring minds wish to know!

 
 
 
Krishna
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2.5  Krishna  replied to  Right Down the Center @2    10 months ago
After 10 years of Trump in the spotlight it is amazing how easy it is for Trump to push so many buttons.

But perhaps not as many buttons as he pushed before many people knew him!

 
 
 
Krishna
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2.5.1  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @2.5    10 months ago
But perhaps not as many buttons as he pushed before many people knew him!

Politicians can be like that in many cases!

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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3  Hal A. Lujah    10 months ago

"It's some deep psychological thing, but when you win the presidency, you don't win the midterms,"

No, it’s Occam’s Razor with you.  Republicans will lose the midterms automatically because they are servile to the thing that tanked the economy, embarrassed the country, somehow managed to make healthcare worse, fired and terrorized the innocent constituency, etc. etc.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @3    10 months ago

No. Actually what he said is true

AI Overview

The party that wins the presidency almost always loses seats in the subsequent midterm elections. This has occurred in 20 out of the past 22 midterm House elections since 1938. 

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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3.1.1  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Right Down the Center @3.1    10 months ago

It’s a real shocker that you’ve missed the point entirely.  I guess that’s what happens when you’re so delusional that you think this is a normal administration.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.1.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @3.1.1    10 months ago

I proved you point is incorrect and changing congress in the midterms after presidential election is common.  The rest of your comment is just the usual litany of complaints  that are best ignored.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  Right Down the Center @3.1.2    10 months ago

then just ignore them instead of blathering on about them

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.1.4  Right Down the Center  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.3    10 months ago

I actually did. I just responded to his claim and ignored the rest 

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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3.1.5  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.3    10 months ago

This is the right preemptively coming up with any excuse for their upcoming loss other than Donald Trump is the world’s biggest moron.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.6  Trout Giggles  replied to  Right Down the Center @3.1.4    10 months ago

always have to have the last word don't you. You're just like my spouse

 
 
 
Gsquared
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3.1.7  seeder  Gsquared  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @3.1.5    10 months ago
Donald Trump is the world's biggest moron

Truer words were never said.

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.1.8  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.6    10 months ago

[✘]

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.1.9  Right Down the Center  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.6    10 months ago

No

 
 
 
Krishna
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3.1.10  Krishna  replied to  Right Down the Center @3.1    10 months ago
This has occurred in 20 out of the past 22 midterm House elections since 1938.

But whaddaboud before 1938?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4  JohnRussell    10 months ago

Howard Nutlick today -

@atrupar
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Lutnick on Taiwan : "They need to keep our president happy. Because our president is the key to protecting their country. So they need to make him happy. So you say, why would they do this? The answer is because Donald Trump is vital to protecting them."
 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @4    10 months ago
So they need to make him happy.

Taiwan : Cash or gold ? 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    10 months ago

bitcoin

 
 
 
CB
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5  CB    10 months ago

Does this president-guy EVER shut up? 10 years daily in the news. . . and he still is not tired yet of being. . . news?

 
 
 
Krishna
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5.1  Krishna  replied to  CB @5    10 months ago
10 years daily in the news. . . and he still is not tired yet of being. . . news?

Which may be a significant "break with tradition" (to coin a phrase).

After all, most past presidents (especially the more sensible ones) rarely made comments that appeared in the news!

 
 
 
TᵢG
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6  TᵢG    10 months ago

Trump lives in his own little fantasy world.   This is the nutcase Trump supporters want to be in control of the power of the US presidency??

 
 
 
Gsquared
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6.1  seeder  Gsquared  replied to  TᵢG @6    10 months ago

He's their guy, as sick as that is.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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6.1.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Gsquared @6.1    10 months ago
He's their guy, as sick as that is.

It definitely speaks to what kind of people they are. Trump and his felonies, sexual assault, tax evasion, infidelities, narcissism, all of the Mango Mussolini's traits now indelibly define those who voted for him and continue to defend him.

 
 
 
Krishna
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6.1.2  Krishna  replied to  Gsquared @6.1    10 months ago
He's their guy, as sick as that is.

Correct!

(Thank goodness Democrats don't do stuff like that!!!)

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.2  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @6    10 months ago
This is the nutcase Trump supporters want to be in control of the power of the US presidency??

Hell yes !

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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7  Trout Giggles    10 months ago

So the naysayers are telling us calm down, he's joking, don't believe everything he says....blah blah blah

When he does try to suspend the midterm elections I reserve the right to hold your feet to the fire to get you to finally wake the fuck up

and to tell you I told you so

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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7.1  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Trout Giggles @7    10 months ago
I reserve the right to hold your feet to the fire to get you to finally wake the fuck up and to tell you I told you so

There are so many instances already available it's a joke. They refuse to admit how badly they have fckd this country up, PERIOD

 
 
 
devangelical
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7.1.1  devangelical  replied to  Igknorantzruls @7.1    10 months ago

they can never admit they made a mistake to any "lib". but I can be patient, knowing that trump has irreparably damaged the republican party for at least 3 election cycles ...

 
 
 
Split Personality
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7.1.2  Split Personality  replied to  devangelical @7.1.1    10 months ago

Remember when they just wanted to elect someone who would sign what they wanted?

We don't want a president who can think,we already know what the top 1% want him to do.He only needs to be capable if signing with a pen!

Grover Norquist
 
 
 
devangelical
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7.1.3  devangelical  replied to  Split Personality @7.1.2    10 months ago

I say give them a little taste of the 3rd world country they want so bad, but do it before the spring thaw, otherwise the whole country will smell like a landfill ...

 
 
 
Split Personality
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7.1.4  Split Personality  replied to  devangelical @7.1.3    10 months ago

ICE lied again, shocker. They did not "have their own Medic". They had to wait for the city Fire department ambulance.  They removed Good from the car to work on her on the side walk.

Records: Medics found Renee Good had gunshot wounds to chest, forearm, and head - KSTP.com 5 Eyewitness News

Ice lied again, reporting shots fired by locals.

The Minneapolis Fire Department responded to 911 calls from the ICE employees. 

Good, 37, suffered two gunshot wounds to the right side of her chest, one to her left forearm and one "with protruding tissue on the left side of the patient’s head," according to the report by the Minneapolis Fire Department. Blood was also flowing from her left ear, the report said. Renee Good had four gunshot wounds after fatal ICE-involved officer shooting | Fox News
 
 
 
Split Personality
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7.1.5  Split Personality  replied to  Split Personality @7.1.4    10 months ago

Don't be surprised when ICE Barbie or another one of the Clown Car Cabinet says that Good died of heart failure and hemorrhagic shock.

jrSmiley_55_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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7.1.6  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Split Personality @7.1.5    10 months ago
Don't be surprised when ICE Barbie or another one of the Clown Car Cabinet says that Good died of

injuries suffered from a vehicle accident while attempting to flea ICE agents she had just run over.

 
 
 
devangelical
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7.1.7  devangelical  replied to  Split Personality @7.1.5    10 months ago

lead poisoning ...

 
 
 
Krishna
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7.2  Krishna  replied to  Trout Giggles @7    10 months ago
and to tell you I told you so

And thanks for that!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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8  Sean Treacy    10 months ago

New York Times headline 12 years ago: "Cancel the Midterms because they derail Obama's agenda and are too White

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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8.1  sandy-2021492  replied to  Sean Treacy @8    10 months ago

Did Obama write the article?

No?

Not the same thing.

But you know that already, and are grasping at straws.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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8.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  sandy-2021492 @8.1    10 months ago

I guess i need to spell this out.  I didn't suggest, nor does it matter, that Obama did not author this piece. 

The point, that I thought was obvious, is that the paper of record for progressives, had no problem publishing a call to end mid term elections.  The same elites who are  now clutching pearls at Trump making an observation had no problem when their side did it.   There was no outrage from progressives  over calling to end mid terms because voters were too white and educated. 

Again, like everything else, its only a reason for hysteria because Trump said it. There is zero principle behind this manufactured outraged. Zero.  But I understand that principles aren't really very important to most progressives so, their hypocrisy is irrelevant to them. 

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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8.1.2  sandy-2021492  replied to  Sean Treacy @8.1.1    10 months ago

So, you don't recognize the difference between POTUS, especially a POTUS who has repeatedly flouted the limitations of the executive branch with the support of Congress, saying such a thing and the author of an editorial?

Of course you don't.

We should be outraged when POTUS says something like this.  The lack of outrage is an indicator of a lack of respect for democracy.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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8.1.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  sandy-2021492 @8.1.2    10 months ago
o, you don't recognize the difference be

Because they are words. Presidents and opinion writers suggest ways things could be "better."  Living in a country where people (including the President) are free to say "things would be better if" is a good thing.  Speculation is not a crime, nor  a reason for hysterics. The midterms will happen  just like they have every other midterm as Trump has not taken a single step to prevent them occurring. 

he lack of outrage is an indicator of a lack of respect for democracy.

As long as you were outraged by progressive thought leaders doing the same in their paper of record, fine. But the whole "it's okay when we say things" but it's Nazism (or insert your favorite term of hysteria) when Trump does the same is just performative posturing. Have to keep everyone in the hive buzzing with rage at all times..

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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8.1.4  sandy-2021492  replied to  Sean Treacy @8.1.3    10 months ago

The sources of words matter.  An op ed writer can't possibly bring about such a change.  Given Trump's resistance to accepting election results, insistence on being able to influence election results  after  ballots have been cast, acceptance of violent support in undermining elections, and penchant for using the military to enforce his agenda whether it's legal or not, there is every reason to be outraged when he speaks out against democracy here.  Especially when losing midterms could mean accountability for him and his cronies.

BTW, there was outrage, but you won't like the source of it.

It seems there were some socialists who recognized the problem with such a suggestion.

So, there was outrage from the far left when somebody other than Obama called for midterms to be cancelled during Obama's term.

For the right to avoid being hypocrites according to your own comments, they should be calling out Trump's remarks.  I won't hold my breath.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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8.1.5  Sean Treacy  replied to  sandy-2021492 @8.1.4    10 months ago
or the right to avoid being hypocrites according to your own comments, they should be calling out Trump's remarks

IS that what you imagine the left is doing ? What they are doing using this a vehicle to calling him a Nazi, insult his voters, claim Trump is going to kill people and all the other hate filled hyperbole we get on a daily basis.

The remarks are silly, idle speculation and dumb. In of themselves they are so insubstantial as to not even being worth commenting on. It's the hypocritical hysteria they provoke that is. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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8.1.6  TᵢG  replied to  Sean Treacy @8.1.5    10 months ago

You are again grasping at straws.

Out of 345 million people in our nation, there will always be those who say or post wrong ideas.

The PotUS, however, is a highly distinguished individual possessing great influence and power.   When a PotUS makes a statement, it becomes world news.   It does influence millions of people (even a buffoon like Trump influences gullible / blindly partisan people).

So, as Sandy tried to get you to understand, you need to compare what Trump stated to what other presidents have stated.   Not to what some talking head has written or said.

( If you stop trying in vain to defend the buffoon in the White House, and instead focus on current events based on facts and reason, I guarantee you will not need to resort to sophistry, lying, etc. to make a (feeble) 'argument'. )

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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8.1.7  sandy-2021492  replied to  Sean Treacy @8.1.5    10 months ago
Trump is going to kill people and all the other hate filled hyperbole we get on a daily basis.

Where's the hyperbole?  Trump's regime has killed people.  They have detained people without cause.  They have assaulted people.  They pepper sprayed an infant.

And that's not the only time.

 
 
 
Gsquared
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8.1.8  seeder  Gsquared  replied to  Sean Treacy @8.1.5    10 months ago
hate filled hyperbole we get on a daily basis

Projection to the nth degree.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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8.1.9  Sean Treacy  replied to  sandy-2021492 @8.1.7    10 months ago

here's the hyperbole?

Name one administration that hasn't "killed people"  Harrison, maybe?

Thank you for making my case. You take events that happen all the time throughout your life and suddenly claim "NAZI" because Trump.  

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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8.1.10  sandy-2021492  replied to  Sean Treacy @8.1.9    10 months ago

You said it was hyperbole, implying it's not happening.  That's a falsehood.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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8.1.11  Sean Treacy  replied to  sandy-2021492 @8.1.10    10 months ago
What they are doing using this a vehicle to calling

Because it obviously is. It's taking things that have happened throughout your entire life and pretending they are a unique threat posed by Trump and justify calling him a Nazi etc..  

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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8.1.12  sandy-2021492  replied to  Sean Treacy @8.1.11    10 months ago

To what are you replying?  You quoted yourself, not me.

 
 
 
CB
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8.1.13  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @8.1.3    10 months ago
But the whole "it's okay when we say things" but it's Nazism (or insert your favorite term of hysteria) when Trump does the same is just performative posturing.

Distinctions matters. That is obvious. Do I need to give you examples, plural? Okay, here is one: When Obama s-its and steps in it. . .the s-it will be on the sole of his shoe. . . not on any "paper of record" figurative shoe. And vice-versa.

 
 
 
devangelical
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8.2  devangelical  replied to  Sean Treacy @8    10 months ago

but, but, but what about ...

 
 

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