Truth and Reconciliation Commissions? Why not just make ready the guillotine?
By: John Kass
This is what the cancel culture of the secular progressive left is all about. Seeking revenge and retribution and calling it reconciliation. These people have always preferred the French Revolution to the American Revolution. It’s not just differences regRding attitudes about God. It’s about what happens to the people on the wrong side...
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Just as Democratic Party elites and Big Tech try to stamp out the Hunter Biden email story comes another angry demand:
Truth and Reconciliation Commissions.
Chew on the chilling, delicious irony as Joe Biden tells us he wants to heal the nation while pundits of the left, backing Biden, seek tribunals. There’s nothing like punishing your opponents in the name of national healing, non?
“When this nightmare is over, we need a Truth and Reconciliation Commission,” tweeted Robert Reich, the progressive former Labor Department secretary to former President Bill Clinton and adviser to President Barack Obama. “It would erase Trump’s lies, comfort those who have been harmed by his hatefulness, and name every official, politician, executive, and media mogul whose greed and cowardice enabled this catastrophe.”
This follows another call for a Truth Commission delivered by an MSNBC host, the lefty Chris Hayes:
“The most humane and reasonable way to deal with all these people, if we survive this, is some kind of truth and reconciliation commission.”
Former U.S. Labor Secretary Robert Reich participates in a discussion at the Center for American Progress Action Fund on March 5, 2019, in Washington, D.C. (Mark Wilson/Getty)
And after the public show trials, are the guilty humanely offered blindfolds and a last cigarette? A cafe Americano might be nice.
Among Republicans, the outraged hot take on all of this is to bring up George Orwell’s “1984.”
“It’s Orwellian,” they say.
But Orwell’s “1984” was a soulless world ruled by dispassionate intellects. Their terror was numbing and methodical. These Reich/Hayes Truth Commissions are tinged instead with the angry passion of the zealot seeking revenge. It’s rather French. No, not the France of today, but of the French Revolution, of tribunals and trials and the Reign of Terror, the France of the Jacobins.
Unfortunately for those who say they wish to heal the nation and bring back decency and compassion, threatening voters who dissent might be the wrong approach. Yet it has been a theme of Democratic political actors and pundits across social media platforms since President Donald Trump was elected in 2016.
It may be why many who detest Trump’s boorish public behavior and presidential tweets aren’t drawn to Biden and the (likely next) President Kamala Harris. On one side they see Orange Man Bad. But on the other, they see the glint in the eyes of the Jacobins and Madame Guillotine, waiting.
When the working class obeyed politically, they were treated as Democratic Party heroes, as evidenced in the iconography of Depression-era WPA public art right through the John Lennon song. But when the working class began to dissent, to question progressives, they were dehumanized.
Likewise, conservative Black voters who reject liberal policy as harmful to their communities are demeaned as “Uncle Toms” and race-traitors . Working-class white voters were kicked to society’s margins as xenophobes and racists by Democratic Party leaders. Think of Obama’s famous elitist slap at working-class voters bitterly clinging to their guns and religion.
Even Hillary Clinton, then a rival, tried to club Obama with that one. But years later, she, too, joined in with her “basket of deplorables” mockery that helped cost her the 2016 election. Since then it has only intensified.
But the left’s Truth Commission idea is a new wrinkle in an old skin.
It comes as Twitter and Facebook act as State Media to suppress the stories about Hunter Biden’s business dealings in Ukraine, China and elsewhere published in the New York Post.
Other news organizations have leaped to Joe Biden’s defense in attempts to slap it all down. The FBI is now said to be investigating, and former intelligence officials are reaching into their favorite Cyrillic rabbit hole , questioning whether Russian election interference played a role in the laptop mystery.
Of course, there were many questions about the sourcing of that infamous Russia dossier of opposition research linked to Hillary Clinton’s campaign and used to delegitimize the Trump campaign. But Democrats and the media haven’t been as religiously indignant about the source of that dossier.
There are two elements that should also be considered here. One is that Hunter Biden did make a great deal of money from overseas interests while his father, Joe, was Obama’s vice president and dealing diplomatically in those nations. Hunter Biden had little experience in the natural gas business but received at least $50,000 a month as a board member of Ukrainian natural gas company Burisma. And he was involved in business deals in China shortly after Joe Biden left the White House.
And the other thing to consider is that though the New York Post published its first story more than a week ago, Hunter Biden has yet to deny these were his emails or his laptop.
The media doesn’t press Joe Biden about Hunter all that much. He wasn’t asked about it in that friendly ABC chat with George Stephanopoulos that was like a “Town hall of Hugs.”
If anything deserves a Truth and Reconciliation Commission, it’s the Hunter Biden drama, but pro-Biden forces won’t allow it. They want one for Trump and his supporters.
Today’s Truth Commission zealotry causes me to think of a priest, a father of the French Revolution named Emmanuel Joseph Sieyes, commonly known as the Abbe Sieyes.
In order to keep his head amid all that frightful head lopping that he helped start, the good Abbe renounced his faith and swore his oath to the new state. Before the peaceful end of his life in 1836, Abbe Sieyes was asked: What did you do during the French Revolution?
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Unfortunately for those who say they wish to heal the nation and bring back decency and compassion, threatening voters who dissent might be the wrong approach. Yet it has been a theme of Democratic political actors and pundits across social media platforms since President Donald Trump was elected in 2016.
It may be why many who detest Trump’s boorish public behavior and presidential tweets aren’t drawn to Biden and the (likely next) President Kamala Harris. On one side they see Orange Man Bad. But on the other, they see the glint in the eyes of the Jacobins and Madame Guillotine, waiting.
When the working class obeyed politically, they were treated as Democratic Party heroes, as evidenced in the iconography of Depression-era WPA public art right through the John Lennon song. But when the working class began to dissent, to question progressives, they were dehumanized.
Likewise, conservative Black voters who reject liberal policy as harmful to their communities are demeaned as “Uncle Toms” and race-traitors . Working-class white voters were kicked to society’s margins as xenophobes and racists by Democratic Party leaders. Think of Obama’s famous elitist slap at working-class voters bitterly clinging to their guns and religion.
Even Hillary Clinton, then a rival, tried to club Obama with that one. But years later, she, too, joined in with her “basket of deplorables” mockery that helped cost her the 2016 election. Since then it has only intensified.
But the left’s Truth Commission idea is a new wrinkle in an old skin.
https://thenewstalkers.com/vic-eldred/group_discuss/10786/truth-and-reconciliation-commissions-why-not-just-make-ready-the-guillotine
RIP Freedom of Speech – A.F. Branco Cartoon
Social media and the mainstream media working hard to smother the Biden corruption scandal. Political cartoon by A.F. Branco ©2020.
Considering there is zero actual evidence of any crime, just a bunch of dipshits with small dicks trying to claim Biden is a criminal while using nothing but conjecture to convict him in their warped little minds, I don't see the MSM's decision not to run this horse shit as anything but intelligent journalism.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CGs83sDDNYw/?igshid=almf2dw76kog
The Trump Playbook rule #1: When you get caught telling lies, yell, "Freedom of Speech!"
BINGO
It is similar to rule #2 - when called out normalizing bigotry, misogyny and racism, yell, "Freedom of Religion!"
We on the right will not renounce our support for Trump win or lose the election and will stand proudly in our support for him and his policies even in the face of a Biden win. We will simply begin to prepare for Trump 2024! The next Grover Cleveland!
When America experiences 4 years of relative calm without a President tweeting bullshit every two seconds there is simply no chance anyone but his most fervent ass suckers will want him back in 2024.
The difference is that if Trump runs he wins the nomination and no establishment Republican exists who could derail the GOP like Teddy Roosevelt did that year.
There will be no relative calm during a Biden Harris regime.
Trump is the one derailing the GOP Xx and you know that's true.
Are incarcerated convicted felons allowed to run for office in the GOP?
BTFW, in order to even try to compare Trump to Grover Cleveland, Trump would have to win the popular vote at least ONCE.
Depends on what office and what state.
Same as for incarcerated convicted felons being allowed to run for office in the Democratic Party.
Popular votes for President are rather meaningless--just some salve for Democrats who lose elections.
I'm asked about the GOP which is a NATIONAL party.
Do tell. Post a link.
Really? How are Electoral votes distributed from Texas?
Well, make it clear what position you are talking about.
Nothing would lead me to believe THAT is what you "meant" now.
Look it up yourself.
Instead of asking inane questions, LOOK it up your own self.
Well since the entire fucking thread has been about the Presidency, what lead you to believe it had anything to do with any other Federal or state office Tex. Other than just trying to be argumentative of course.
After all this time, you're still having issues with the whole concept that the burden of proof is on the person making the assertion I see.
It's pretty sad that you can't even admit what everyone already knows Tex. Texas bases their Presidential electoral votes on what you insist is 'rather meaningless', the POPULAR vote.
well, it is legal for convicted felons to hold office. a 2 second search could have told you THAT!
OVERALL popular votes mean little, electoral votes matter much more, did you not already know that?
The popular vote within the state. That’s what matters to win that states electoral votes. It doesn’t change a thing if you win the state by one vote or by 4 million votes. We have 54 separate popular votes for electoral college electors. Thus the 1.5 million extra Hillary votes in New York and 4 million in California mean less than nothing outside of those states.
Perhaps it would behoove you to note that my question was predicated by the term INCARCERATED. I know that you and yours have issue with 'parsing words' but I for one refuse to let you get away with pretending that words don't matter.
Oh, so now it's OVERALL popular votes.
Revelatory! /s
Perhaps it would behoove you to do a modicum of research. I know you and yours are immune to that idea. Look it UP!
It is legal. period. Congress doesn't have to accept them as members, though (research would tell you THAT, too!)
It always been that way.
No research needed to confirm that you answered the question YOU wanted to answer instead of the question that I asked.
Again, no need Tex. You and I both know the fucking answer.
Not in this thread it hasn't.
For some people freedom of speech means...I should be able to say whatever I want without any blow back.
What kind of blow back? A commission like the article mentioned as proposed by influential progressives?
Why do you have an issue with a commission as described by Reich quote Xx? Please be specific.
Truth and Reconciliation Commissions.
Chew on the chilling, delicious irony as Joe Biden tells us he wants to heal the nation while pundits of the left, backing Biden, seek tribunals. There’s nothing like punishing your opponents in the name of national healing, non?
“When this nightmare is over, we need a Truth and Reconciliation Commission,” tweeted Robert Reich, the progressive former Labor Department secretary to former President Bill Clinton and adviser to President Barack Obama. “It would erase Trump’s lies, comfort those who have been harmed by his hatefulness, and name every official, politician, executive, and media mogul whose greed and cowardice enabled this catastrophe.”
This follows another call for a Truth Commission delivered by an MSNBC host, the lefty Chris Hayes:
“The most humane and reasonable way to deal with all these people, if we survive this, is some kind of truth and reconciliation commission.”
Former U.S. Labor Secretary Robert Reich participates in a discussion at the Center for American Progress Action Fund on March 5, 2019, in Washington, D.C. (Mark Wilson/Getty)
And after the public show trials, are the guilty humanely offered blindfolds and a last cigarette? A cafe Americano might be nice.
Among Republicans, the outraged hot take on all of this is to bring up George Orwell’s “1984.”
“It’s Orwellian,” they say.
But Orwell’s “1984” was a soulless world ruled by dispassionate intellects. Their terror was numbing and methodical. These Reich/Hayes Truth Commissions are tinged instead with the angry passion of the zealot seeking revenge.
https://thenewstalkers.com/vic-eldred/group_discuss/10786/truth-and-reconciliation-commissions-why-not-just-make-ready-the-guillotine?g=64#cm1441233
If you can't answer the question so be it but spare me your rinse and repeat bullshit Xx.
If Trump and his ilk havent done anything wrong, why would they fear a truth proceeding? Just tell the truth.
It simply is needed and has no legitimate purpose whatsoever. It is simply a desire to carry out a vendetta
We owe you nothing. No explanations, no proceedings, no need to prove innocence. We have no regrets for imposing the Trump administration upon you and our respect for you is strictly limited to imposing him upon you for four more years and making you all enjoy it.
So 'truth and reconciliation have no legitimate purpose whatsoever? That's a pretty hypocritical position coming from someone who calls themselves a Christian.
Not on the terms that your side want to initiate them. The version your side would offer would have nothing of Christian charity involved or Lincoln’s with malice toward none philosophy. We won’t allow ourselves to be the objects of some vendetta as the progressives proposing these things envision.
What lead you to all of that unfounded blather Xx?
You're saying that over 40 other countries can set up such a commission that works but the US is incapable of doing so. I thought that you and yours insisted that the US is 'exceptional', guess you've given up on that...
It is Biden who lied repeatedly last night and through out his life. But this seed is about what the left intends to do to us should they gain power.
How do you or anyone you know fit the description by Reich quoted in the seed Xx?
We know Reich, Hayes, and other secular progressives and their intentions toward Trump, his administration, Congress persons aligned with him, and his bitter clinger, deplorables who proudly support him.
That just deflection Xx.
I asked you a specific question about a Reich quote.
Can you answer the fucking question or NOT?
Steve Bannon and Alex Jones are conspiring to label Hunter Biden , and his father, worldwide, as pedophiles.
What truth and reconciliation should Bannon and Jones face, or should they just be given a new cable or You Tube show ?
You mean that they speak the truth about the Biden family syndicate?
See 2.2.3
I did, which is why I asked:
Your answer looks to be NO.
WTF is your issue with Truth and Reconciliation Xx?
Do you have any idea where the concept of such a commission originated or where it was enacted?
Do you have any desire whatsoever to educate yourself about things before you decry them?
He can't answer a question in his own words. Copy and paste is his style.
Not in my city they won’t. I see John deleted the post I responded to before my reply posted.
I deleted it because I thought someone might construe it as a death threat, which it was not.
Zimmerman followed Martin for 2 or 3 blocks through a rainy night, didnt he? Maybe the left will keep tabs on you.
You mean you all don’t already?