Biden advisor: Elderly should be first to die, last to live
By: Bryan Fischer
This is the face of pure evil. Health care rationing, age quotas, government determining who lives or dies, it deciding whether a life has quality or not. Thank God for President Trump and operation warp speed. Fortunately, while he’s President our vulnerable seniors like my mom will get it first and already have it before that monster 👺 assumes power and puts the seniors to the back of the line!
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Biden advisor: Elderly should be first to die, last to live
One of the heads of the task force is the infamous Dr. Death, Ezekiel Emanuel, who was one of the brains behind Obamacare. He is most notorious for opining that people have no useful life beyond the age of 75...
Conservatives believe in the sanctity of every human life from the moment of conception until natural death. Joe Biden does not, and that’s bad news for Grandma. In fact, it’s even bad news for Joe Biden, who at 78 is already three years past Ezekiel Emanuel’s drop-dead date.
Because of the value we place on human life, it’s been my position from day one in this coronavirus panic-demic that we make the elderly our highest priority. Our focus, I suggest, should be on the elderly, since they are the most vulnerable among us. Each assisted living facility should be stocked with enough HCQ and azithromycin to provide a course of treatment for every resident at the first sign of symptoms.
For everyone else, the nationwide approach I suggest is that we let everybody live their normal lives as they see fit without any restrictions. If someone gets sick, he should stay home and immediately start a regimen of hydroxychloroquine (HCQ), which is amazingly effective if taken as soon as symptoms appear.
Joe Biden’s Coronavirus task force is a nightmare for people who love their aging parents. One of the heads of the task force is the infamous Dr. Death, Ezekiel Emanuel, who was one of the brains behind Obamacare. He is most notorious for opining that people have no useful life beyond the age of 75, a view he reiterated in the September issue of Science magazine.
He uses the Standard Expected Years of Life Lost to identify people who don’t have enough productive years left to be worthy of care. Under his metric, people who live beyond their life expectancy are considered valueless. Consequently, Dr. Death believes that people 75 and over have aged out and therefore should be put on the lowest and last rung of eligibility for a COVID vaccine.
In a 2019 interview, he said:
These people who live a vigorous life to 70, 80, 90 years of age — when I look at what those people ‘do,’ almost all of it is what I classify as play,” Emanuel said. “It’s not meaningful work. They’re riding motorcycles; they’re hiking. Which can all have value — don’t get me wrong. But if it’s the main thing in your life? Ummm, that’s not probably a meaningful life.
There’s a staggering level of hubris, that Emanuel thinks he knows not only what makes his life meaningful but yours too. And if your life does not have enough meaning to suit him, he is prepared to deny you medicine which could extend your life. The vaccine priority model Emanuel proposes would exclude those over age 75 from receiving a COVID vaccine until no shortages exist anywhere in the world.
Dr. Death has yet to be asked if his standard should apply to Joe Biden, who is 78 and therefore already past his sell-by date.
Thus in prioritizing vaccine distribution, under BidenCare your grandmother starts at the end of the line and only gets the vaccine if everyone in the world gets it first. Those who ought to be first will instead be last.
Lockdown-addicted politicians are prohibiting families from inviting Grandma over for Thanksgiving, even though this might be her last one. The governor of Washington, Jay Inslee, instructs families in the Evergreen State to “review your guest list,” and baldly declares that disinviting Grandma is actually an expression of love. “Remember, it’s an act of caring to decide not to invite people who have a higher risk of getting very sick from COVID-19.”
Where all this leads can be seen in 104-year-old Mary Fowler, a resident at a care home in Scotland. You may listen here to the heart-wrenching testimony of what lockdowns are doing to this woman who desperately wants to see her family but is being prevented from doing so by some heartless medical bureaucrat. If she were to reach for some hydroxychloroquine, Ezekiel would slap her hand and say, “Not your turn, sister. You’re past your use-by date. Time to just go ahead and die.”
Mary says tearfully:
I want my family, though.
This is my right. Please help. It’s cutting me to bits.
I must see my kids. Time’s getting on for me. I must see my children and make things like they used to be. Please help me, help me. Please, please help.
I hope you like that scene because you’ll get a lot more of it in Joe Biden’s America.
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There’s a staggering level of hubris, that Emanuel thinks he knows not only what makes his life meaningful but yours too. And if your life does not have enough meaning to suit him, he is prepared to deny you medicine which could extend your life. The vaccine priority model Emanuel proposes would exclude those over age 75 from receiving a COVID vaccine until no shortages exist anywhere in the world.
Dr. Death has yet to be asked if his standard should apply to Joe Biden, who is 78 and therefore already past his sell-by date.
Thus in prioritizing vaccine distribution, under BidenCare your grandmother starts at the end of the line and only gets the vaccine if everyone in the world gets it first. Those who ought to be first will instead be last.
Lockdown-addicted politicians are prohibiting families from inviting Grandma over for Thanksgiving, even though this might be her last one. The governor of Washington, Jay Inslee, instructs families in the Evergreen State to “review your guest list,” and baldly declares that disinviting Grandma is actually an expression of love. “Remember, it’s an act of caring to decide not to invite people who have a higher risk of getting very sick from COVID-19.”
Where all this leads can be seen in 104-year-old Mary Fowler, a resident at a care home in Scotland. You may listen here to the heart-wrenching testimony of what lockdowns are doing to this woman who desperately wants to see her family but is being prevented from doing so by some heartless medical bureaucrat. If she were to reach for some hydroxychloroquine, Ezekiel would slap her hand and say, “Not your turn, sister. You’re past your use-by date. Time to just go ahead and die.”
https://thenewstalkers.com/vic-eldred/group_discuss/11252/biden-advisor-elderly-should-be-first-to-die-last-to-live
Big government is deadly!
https://www.instagram.com/p/CH6rO3ygwpU/?igshid=1fz2qnayz9tai
Broken-hearted – A.F. Branco Cartoon
Blue State Governors appear eager to kill off small businesses with the use of COVID shutdowns. Political cartoon by A.F.…
Notice no democrats present and just look at what they’ve done to their cities and states. Now Biden’s advisor wants to do the same as in that cartoon to our elderly. Democrats keeping old people who may be celebrating their last Thanksgiving away from their families is cruel and heartless
That is a hard sell and you know it. Joe Biden is a senior; "a man of a certain age." He has not shied away from his age. Indeed, he has confronted and surpassed those individuals who tried to make something of his aging: He has become president over and beyond his opponent! So now it's on to clowning around with "blue-face" and malicious untruths about "death panels" and the like??! This strategy will fail.
BTW, I extend a challenge here and now: Walk in the fruits of the Spirit!
It’s a New York Times photo that I used.
Lets be honest. Profit increases when moneys otherwise intended for the care of the sick and elderly can be diverted to wealthy CEOs and the Pentagon perpetual war machine. This is a bipartisan matter. Both mainstream parties support profit, and both have participated in the back to work drive, although the GOP has largely led it. Politically speaking, the notion that society should care for their sick and elderly is tied to the horrid socialist agenda. Isn't it.
You know, I take your larger point. But, IMT, you really should not come across as 'hastily' rubbing salt into a wound. Dr. Emanuel needs to clean up something he stated 6 years ago in an article or lecture. He may not feel that way anymore or it could be true that he still does personally and/or professionally.
There is no proper space for a socialist to 'bum-rush' in and suggest it's all no good and the participants are ALL frauds! We've been and are going through quite enough (and are smarting a lot) of that right now already!
And the quote from the 2019 article? This man has been for health rationing for the elderly since he was an early obamacare architect and advocate. He also advocated in March for a complete national lockdown for 18-24 months until all could be vaccinated from the China flu.
Dr. Emanuel is not going to be running anything, or do you suppose that he is a lead advisor? #Tempestinateapot.
And, let me turn my wig sideways. Don't you dare try to flip the script and put on this display of caring about seniors. I do not remember reading your sorrow or outrage over the Mount Rushmore-sized rally which may have lain the infection by coronavirus on Herman Cain! A fellow conservative senior, no less! While Donald did not deign to apology or opine on Herman's ill-fallen condition - his supporters likewise fell silent. I won't tolerate any fakery of care and concern at this point!
What you tolerate is of no concern of mine...
Chump all the way through the hard places in the comment too! There is a "RIP" there you overlooked in your rush to conclusion.
....”The Federalist reports Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, who serves on Biden’s coronavirus task force, seemed to suggest in a September article that Americans over 75 should wait for the vaccine out of “fairness” to the rest of the world.
Emanuel, who also was an adviser to the Obama administration, has faced criticism for years for promoting ageist arguments. A bioethicist at the University of Pennsylvania, he wrote an article about how he wants to die by age 75 because life is not worth living past that point. He suggested other older Americans should consider “whether our consumption is worth our contribution.” He also wrote a piece in the New York Times encouraging Americans to “Skip Your Annual Physical.”
Now, he appears to be promoting a plan that would deny the coronavirus vaccine to those most vulnerable to die from the virus: elderly Americans. A vaccine could be available within the next several months after two companies announced final testing on a coronavirus vaccine this fall.
According to The Federalist:
It’s not clear if that also would apply to Biden, who is about to turn 78.
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For years, Emanuel has written and talked about how life loses meaning after age 75. In a 2019 interview, he said only a “small number” of people live well in their 80s.
“These people who live a vigorous life to 70, 80, 90 years of age — when I look at what those people ‘do,’ almost all of it is what I classify as play,” Emanuel said. “It’s not meaningful work. They’re riding motorcycles; they’re hiking. Which can all have value — don’t get me wrong. But if it’s the main thing in your life? Ummm, that’s not probably a meaningful life.”
Health leaders and bioethicists have been warning about Emanuel’s anti-life philosophies for more than a decade. In 2009, Betsy McCaughey, a former chair of the Committee to Reduce Infection Deaths and a former lieutenant governor of New York, wrote:
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Well, if this is the case, and I won't research all the links this morning if at all, then I will have to do this:
The Biden Administration which will need to hit the ground running does not need an 'anchor' of stubborn prejudice setting the 'talk' and making a first impression in the news!
Deal with this-quick!
They like him for his advocacy of an economy shattering and reset total and complete National lockdown for up to two full years until there was a widely available vaccine.
What?! Me think thou doth take establish a pretext for holding this discussion.
ONN? Brian Fisher? Give me a break. He is a nutter!
One News Now. That’s right and everything he said about the issue with Biden and covid death panels is right on. Some of the article is the Biden advisor in his own words. If you will be over 70 while he’s in power be afraid, be very afraid. Your life is less than meaningless to him.
The "sentiment" is at least six years old I am told. That said, Biden should ask the now 63 year old Zeke E., to clarify his current view of 75 years old and beyond. And, if it can not be reconciled positively upwards of 75 years to life; then, Zeke Emmanuel has shot himself in the political foot and should not be on the panel.
SORRY!
The writer is going to need to qualify "natural death" or be accused of sharing something untruthful.
We are talking death by unavoidable accidents/disasters and natural causes such as incurable disease and old age. We are opposed to assisted suicide and euthanasia to put people 6 feet under prematurely. So yes we support life from preborn to old age. We don’t need Biden’s man causing death by rationing or artificial scarcity or because he thinks it’s our time to go.
That statement above on the surface seems unclear, however, it is clear Emanuel is talking about natural death stemming from no extraordinary measures to stay alive beyond an arbitrary age of 75 years . It is still a dismissive statement that ignores a lot of living that can be done to save life and lives. Case in point. Dr. Anthony Fauci is 79 years old and he is definitely going to be a senior advisor on the taskforce advisory board.
Zeke, has some 'plaining to do. And he should get started right away doing so. Before the 'wolves' rent him from political limb to limb.
In a 2019 interview, he said:
These people who live a vigorous life to 70, 80, 90 years of age — when I look at what those people ‘do,’ almost all of it is what I classify as play,” Emanuel said. “It’s not meaningful work. They’re riding motorcycles; they’re hiking. Which can all have value — don’t get me wrong. But if it’s the main thing in your life? Ummm, that’s not probably a meaningful life.
https://thenewstalkers.com/vic-eldred/group_discuss/11252/biden-advisor-elderly-should-be-first-to-die-last-to-live?g=9#cm1465412
Yes. And we have already gone over this. That is a digression.
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You talk about a six year old article and I bring one from last year and you still complain...
I have no plans to travel to urban coastal Southern California so you can carry out your threat. Was the spirit with in you when you roughed up people over political disagreements with you?
But you were going on and on about a 6 year old article. Mine should show you that he’s not changed his ideas since then.
It’s too late...
Well, Dr. Emanuel is not going to be in charge. If we have learned anything through the last four years (ordeal), we know that a president can hire, fire, and replace any advisor, or anybody darn near at will. So let's move on now.
Well with the announcement yesterday about vaccines beginning distribution on December 12, and 20,000,000 full doses distributed by the end of the year and likely another 25,000,000 before the 20th of January it seems moot as by then most of the people he wanted to be last will have already been vaccinated as along with hospital workers Trump has them at the front of the line. My bigger objection to him has to do with his continued to this day advocacy for a three month total and complete mandatory national lockdown.
If that is Dr. Emanuel's position, well it won't be happening. So it's moot too!
It won’t be happening because red state and region America would rise up and openly defy it from day one. He did propose just that in the last few weeks.
Often you believe anything that suits your pretext. So, why not now? Granted, you keep up with the obscure rhetoric for which make for great 'sound' and occasional bouts of 'fury,' but Zeke as advisor is not a national policy maker. Nor, can I imagine he is the only coronavirus advisor on any given subject to the President Elect. Furthermore, I take exception to your borrowing Joe Biden's image and 'plastering' it on an article where your chief pretext is something a doctor stated.
"A text without a context is a pretext.”
I wonder if that is the case here.
But I’m not the issue here. How America’s seniors are treated is.
Seniors are not the issue here either. Nobody has been or is being mistreated by President-Elect Biden or Dr. Emanuel. That leaves us with your supposition.
Please look at the title of the seeded article and maintain that seniors are not the issue here..
When tempest meets teapot. "Double double, toil and trouble."
More excuses for the Biden healthcare rationer in chief?
It was Republican Texas Lt. Governor Dan Patrick who said that senior citizens should be willing to sacrifice their lives to coronavirus for the sake of the economy. If you are a senior citizen, your life is less than meaningless to him.
He’s talking seniors making their own choices for their lives assuming known risks there not having some government nazi come and tell you your time is up. I know because I’m a near senior with multiple co morbidities and I assume some risk willingly every day I go to work.
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HA!
It is but it’s preferable to being home alone 24/7/365 again and now we’ve seen the Danish study about how virtually useless face diapers are.
How is it that your far right wing lies are allowed to stand here?
Distancing, frequent handwashing and N95 masks have proved very effective.
M'dear, if you are home alone 24/7/365, and wearing diapers on your face, it's extremely concerning.
I’m not doing either.
Tell that to doctors, nurses, and patients in the wards. For that matter tell that to Chris Christie going forward.
Heavy duty n95 and more might be effective but the cloth ones and the cheap paper ones most are using are virtually useless.
Yep. He wanted seniors to sacrifice themselves in order to save the economy. His political career, as well as Greg Abbott's, are coming to a close.
That’s not happening...
Actually it is.
Far right wing lying fascists would never admit to it, of course.
Their political demise is long overdue.
Have you looked at a map of Texas us house races?
He said no such thing.
This is bullshit, XX or whoever you are. Complete and total bullshit. This is what Dan Patrick said a few months ago, word per word. Joe Biden cares about every citizen of this country and that includes you, Pappy.
I saw the interview live back then and agreed with him then and now 100%.
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Bravo! 👏👍
That is a helluva thing to say. I spent a lot of time with my great grandparents and grandparents. Every bit of it meaningful. This is the mindset that is hurting us. The nuggets of wisdom that can be shared by those 75 and older are alone enough. That doesn't even touch on the value added to grand children and great grand children. Those fortunate enough to have had grandparents around understand this.
On this we are in total agreement. Fortunately while Trump is President your great grandparents and grandparents along with the medical persons who care for them will be first in line to get it and likely have already had it if Biden is sworn in on Jan. 20.
Try to capitalize on Zeke's six year old article statement all you wish, as it will likely reveal your partisan agenda and nothing less. Donald Trump was not a caring and concern person while 250, 000 plus fell silent and Donald golfed! Furthermore, the election is over. Donald Trump lost!
"Operation Warpspeed" will be to his credit as president. And for a good work we all thank Donald Trump.
Do not confuse any proper thanks Donald Trump should receive into a suggestion that he was not a royal pain in the Trumphole in many other areas of his presidency! We will not discount Donald's many, many, flaws and errors.
Yep, that's what the far right was saying about Obamacare (grandma being euthanized). Just more fear tactics from the far right wing.
Obviously MAGA you and Trump want the first dose and screw everybody else.
CB - I love you more than my holiday butt-plumping Spanx (that I actually wear year-around), but Donald Trump has never in his life come up with an idea that benefitted anyone other than himself.
LOL! "Baby got back!" But, I have thought long and hard about this one and I feel good about sharing this one with Donald. Even the Devil deserves what's due! Thus I give it up willingly. We need these medicines and vaccines so we can get to work. And a president is intended to help and protect us all! What Donald's issues and problems are begin with compulsive lying such that he simply can not be trusted, and ultimately ends with how dangerous he is for how he chooses to talk and behave with others-us.
Okay- pack me a holiday 'butt' and ship by Prime Delivery this week. And don't forget to put in the receipt cause I might choose to return 'damaged' product. (Chuckles.)
Sister, you are my "moment" and I love you like that!
Six years ago, that was a rather coarse thing for a doctor to state - if only because of professional appearances. Dr. Emanuel needs to speak up and clarify this in the present or step out of the public frame. Do not make himself an unforced error on the incoming administration.
I would imagine this was in the context of a hypothetical care rationing scenario. When you have one ventilator and two patients who need it do you give the ventilator to the twenty year old or the seventy five year old - all other factors being equal? If you're trying to come up with some objective metric you say what meaningful amount of life does each patient have left - and then then in context this all seems fairly reasonable - but please shed some more crocodile tears.
I will not in any way endorse any sort of medical rationing nor make any rationalizations or excuses for it. If a government health care system can’t avoid rationing we don’t need a government controlled health care system.