RED STATES TROUNCE BLUE STATES

  
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By:   John Hinderaker

RED STATES TROUNCE BLUE STATES
You’d think the “progressives” would be totally embarrassed that their economic model is such an unmitigated failure, that they have to go hat-in-hand to the fast-recovering red states begging for money? Blue states like California were once the trend-setting, wealth-producing states that laid the path for the future of America. Now progressivism has relegated them to the status of beggar states that have to go to places like Alabama and Arkansas for handouts.

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This is no surprise at all.  Red states had lower taxes and fewer regulations in the first place along with better energy policies. Now post covid and the fascist lockdowns of blue city mayors and blue state governors red state economies rock and most blue state ones including mine just totally suck.  My area of California mirrors the National average rather than our state one.  No wonder so many people and businesses are moving out of the blue and into the red!  


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RED STATES TROUNCE BLUE STATES



One of the notable features of 21st century life is that America’s blue states are failing and losing population, while red states are thriving and growing. This is blindingly obvious to anyone who travels around the country, or to those who have seen half of their friends move to Nashville. But today Stephen Moore’s Committee to Unleash Prosperity sent an email that shows the trend graphically:


[I]f progressive tax, spend, borrow, and regulate economic policies are so superior then why are all the big blue states collapsing economically/financially? The chart below shows the highest and lowest unemployment rate states at the end of 2020.

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It takes a special kind of partisanship not to recognize that liberalism has demonstrably failed.


You’d think the “progressives” would be totally embarrassed that their economic model is such an unmitigated failure, that they have to go hat-in-hand to the fast-recovering red states begging for money? Blue states like California were once the trend-setting, wealth-producing states that laid the path for the future of America. Now progressivism has relegated them to the status of beggar states that have to go to places like Alabama and Arkansas for handouts.

Sad but true. Blue states like California, New York and Illinois are basket cases, and bailing them out will be a top priority of the Biden administration. Are liberals entirely incapable of learning from experience? Well, yeah. They are still trying to sell socialism, the most comprehensive failure in the history of the human race.

Liberals are also busily smearing successful red states. Why not, since smearing is what they are best at? To take just one example, the Democratic Party press has launched one dishonest attack after another against South Dakota’s Governor Kristi Noem. This might seem strange–when has the Governor of South Dakota ever come in for a concerted national smear campaign?

But there is no mystery. Noem is a potential presidential or vice-presidential nominee in 2024, and Democrats are conducting battle space preparation. After all, they wouldn’t want voters to know that South Dakota has the lowest unemployment rate in the country, at an extraordinary 3.0 percent. Voters might get the wrong idea!



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MAGA
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1  seeder  MAGA    6 days ago
Blue states like California, New York and Illinois are basket cases, and bailing them out will be a top priority of the Biden administration. Are liberals entirely incapable of learning from experience? Well, yeah. They are still trying to sell socialism, the most comprehensive failure in the history of the human race.

Liberals are also busily smearing successful red states. Why not, since smearing is what they are best at? To take just one example, the Democratic Party press has launched one dishonest attack after another against South Dakota’s Governor Kristi Noem. This might seem strange–when has the Governor of South Dakota ever come in for a concerted national smear campaign?

But there is no mystery. Noem is a potential presidential or vice-presidential nominee in 2024, and Democrats are conducting battle space preparation. After all, they wouldn’t want voters to know that South Dakota has the lowest unemployment rate in the country, at an extraordinary 3.0 percent

 
 
 
MAGA
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1.1  seeder  MAGA  replied to  MAGA @1    6 days ago
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Split Personality
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1.1.1  Split Personality  replied to  MAGA @1.1    6 days ago

Cuomo & DeSantis are hung up on the same statistics but neither killed anyone by lying about nursing homes or the residential status of people who died from COVID in those two states.

More misinformation from a cartoonist. 

 
 
 
MAGA
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1.1.2  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Split Personality @1.1.1    6 days ago

I’ll take De Santis and his methods over Cuomo any day.  Far lower cases and deaths despite a larger population and having far more senior citizens and a much better economy all for Florida.  Look at all the closed NYC businesses and their owners showing up in Florida to carry on their businesses where they can.  

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.1.3  Split Personality  replied to  MAGA @1.1.2    yesterday
Far lower cases and deaths despite a larger population and having far more senior citizens and a much better economy all for Florida.

Facts are your friends, demographics matter.

Florida is 14% larger than NY with 21 million people spread out over 66,000 square miles.  21% seniors

NY has 19.4 million people, 18.8 million of whom live in the 302 square miles of NYC area.  16% seniors

Look at all the closed NYC businesses and their owners showing up in Florida to carry on their businesses where they can.

links?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2  Vic Eldred    6 days ago

And two of their most arrogant Governors are going down!

 
 
 
MAGA
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2.1  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    6 days ago

Both richly deserve their fate.  I signed the recall for the one in my state.  

 
 
 
Gsquared
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3  Gsquared    6 days ago

Texas, the most "successful" red state.  Without question the greatest failure of state government in American history.  

 
 
 
MAGA
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3.1  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Gsquared @3    6 days ago

Not even close.  Their big mistake was too much dependence on wind and solar power. 

 
 
 
Kavika
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3.1.1  Kavika   replied to  MAGA @3.1    6 days ago

And all the experts and actual facts say your comment is delusional. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.1.2  Split Personality  replied to  MAGA @3.1    6 days ago

Repeating ignorant lies does not make them any less truthful.

Coal power plants, natural gas pipelines and power plants and nuclear power plants all suffered from automatic shutdowns when

sensors and instruments failed due to freezing temps.

Despite some windmill failures ( not equipped with self heating features ) wind generation exceeded expectations

for the past week.

The generational winter storm which is currently affecting large parts of the US, but perhaps most prominently Texas, has drawn attention to power supply, grid operator ERCOT and the role renewables has, or evidently has not, played in causing widespread blackouts.

There have been numerous reports and suggestions in corners of the media that renewables have if not caused, then certainly exacerbated grid electricity performance in Texas throughout the winter storm. However, data pulled from the Electric Reliability Council of Texas (ERCOT) has demonstrated that the power shortfall has been primarily caused by a stark drop in thermal generation, with up to 31GW of capacity out of action on the morning of Tuesday 16 February.

Meanwhile wind, which has borne the brunt of attacks in the media, was responsible for a shortfall of around 2GW.

Solar, meanwhile, produced greater quantities of power than was expected.

Indeed, an analysis of the data presented by US trade body the Solar Energy Industries Alliance (SEIA) published on Wednesday 17 February illustrated how in the three days following 13 February,

thermal power plant output was down 25% while renewables output was down just 1%.


 
 
 
Gsquared
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3.1.3  Gsquared  replied to  MAGA @3.1    6 days ago

Comment 3.1 = Not even close to reality.

 
 
 
MAGA
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3.1.4  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Kavika @3.1.1    6 days ago

No they don’t. I’ve seen reports that place the vast majority of blame on the frozen windmills and the over reliance on them.  

 
 
 
Gsquared
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3.1.5  Gsquared  replied to  MAGA @3.1.4    6 days ago

The reports you claim to have seen would, of course, be fake news.  ERCOT (Electric Reliability Council of Texas) reported Tuesday afternoon that almost twice as many gigawatts of thermal energy (gas, oil, coal, nuclear energy) were off line compared to renewable (mostly wind) energy.

 
 
 
MAGA
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3.1.6  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Gsquared @3.1.5    6 days ago

Wind turbines played significant role in historic Texas power failures, data suggest

Wind energy production dropped off sharply as cold moved in.

The historic power failures in Texas this week amid a major cold snap there appear to have been driven in no small part by the failure of the state's wind turbines to keep up with a spike in demand, according to energy data from federal sources. 

Once-in-a-century cold weather in much of Texas this week sent energy demands skyrocketing, placing major strains on power grids and leaving millions of residents without power for extended periods of single-digit weather.  Weather data show  that temperatures throughout the state began plummeting sharply late Saturday, Feb. 13 and throughout the next day. In areas such as Fort Worth, the temperature has hovered around zero at times. February average lows in that area are around 40 degrees.

A statewide blame game has accompanied the crisis, with numerous industries and commentators alleging that, variously, wind, solar, natural gas and coal failed to meet the surge in heating demand accompanying the cold snap. Yet  federal data from the U.S. Energy Information Administration  indicate that, of the state's major energy sources, wind experienced the sharpest drop-off in energy production
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Gsquared
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3.1.7  Gsquared  replied to  MAGA @3.1.6    6 days ago

"justthenews"

As I said, fake news.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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3.1.8  Thrawn 31  replied to  MAGA @3.1    6 days ago

Lol, yeah, that [10%.DELETED]

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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3.1.9  Thrawn 31  replied to  MAGA @3.1.6    6 days ago

Except even texan officials say that is bullshit, that that the failure lies with the idiot leaders they have elected and ignoring all recommendations for securing the energy supply? Oh yeah, and how about that decision to be your own power grid or whatever the fuck and essentially cut yourself off from the rest of the country? Goddamn brilliant!

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.10  Texan1211  replied to  Thrawn 31 @3.1.9    6 days ago
how about that decision to be your own power grid

That particular decision was made mainly by Democrats.

Goddamn brilliant!!!

LOL!

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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3.1.11  Thrawn 31  replied to  MAGA @3.1.6    6 days ago
Wind Turbines Played Significant Role In Historic Texas Power Failures

So explain to me how wind turbines, coal plants, nuclear plants etc. can function just fine when temperatures get below, or well below freezing where I live, but when it happens in Texas, well everything goes to hell? It gets well below freezing a good part of the year where I live, and no power outages, water shortages, or anything here. Where we are regulated by damned "fedural gubment" and just can't seem to get anything right, we are doing just fine.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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3.1.12  Thrawn 31  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.10    6 days ago

If so, as usual the GOP did fuck all to fix it or make it better, just waiting for the democrats...

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Texan1211
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3.1.13  Texan1211  replied to  Thrawn 31 @3.1.12    6 days ago
If so,

It IS so.

Blaming the GOP for not fixing Democrats' fuck ups is stupid.

 
 
 
MAGA
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3.1.14  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.13    5 days ago

The Florida solution...

 
 
 
MAGA
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3.1.15  seeder  MAGA  replied to  MAGA @3.1.14    yesterday

Florida vs New York, Cuomo vs De Santis

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.2  devangelical  replied to  Gsquared @3    6 days ago
Red states had lower taxes and fewer regulations in the first place along with better energy policies.

... yeah, it sure worked out great for texas this past week, didn't it...         /s

it'll be fun when texans realize that along with their loss of income, no electric, no water, frozen pipes or other damages, and nothing left in the grocery store.... they get to pay for the basic upgrades to their low budget electrical grid too. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.2.1  Split Personality  replied to  devangelical @3.2    6 days ago

Not to mention some fly by night start ups that were trying to buy into the secondary electric market.

Griddy started notifying it's customers when the unregulated cost of wholesale electric went from $30 to $9,000

on day one of the crises.

The nightmare only got worse on Monday, when she realized her bill had increased by another $2,500. In comparison, Scott-Amos paid $33.93 last year for the entire month of February.

“I don’t have that type of money,” she said. “I now owe Griddy $2,869.11. This is going to put me in debt, this is going to mess up my credit. Are they going to cut me off? In the middle of this ongoing crisis?”

Texas energy provider to customers: Please leave us

Texas energy provider to customers: Please leave us

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Some Texans are seeing their electricity bills skyrocket. Here's what to know.

HOUSTON, Texas (KTRK) -- Millions of Texans are still without power, some for days now.

Then there are others like Savannah Thigpeen who has power.

She said she has been doing all she can to conserve, but after just two days of barely any use, she is looking at a bill over $600.
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"Before I went to bed Tuesday night, I got another notification that it was a negative $453," Thigpeen said.

That was after paying nearly $200 on Monday.

Thigpeen lives alone in a one-bedroom apartment in the Spring Branch area.

In November, she switched to Griddy , a Texas wholesale electricity provider. They charge market price for customers based on their personal kilowatt usage.

She made the switch trying to save every last cent. Like so many, she is out of work because of the pandemic.

"They actually save me a lot of money. I pretty much pay 5 cents per kilowatt instead of like the 10, the 15 cents. So they let us know on Sunday morning that it could go up to $1 to $3 per kilowatt," Thigpeen said.

Since joining four months ago, Thigpeen says her bill has never been more than $50, which has helped her survive during this COVID-19 pandemic.

Texas is a free market, which means you get to choose who powers your home. Griddy's service is simple, but not without risk.
 
 
 
devangelical
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3.2.2  devangelical  replied to  Split Personality @3.2.1    6 days ago

my family members there seem to pay astronomical electric bills

 
 
 
MAGA
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3.2.3  seeder  MAGA  replied to  devangelical @3.2.2    6 days ago

They should be using more natural gas for things like water heaters, dryers, range and ovens, and central heat instead of electricity.  That’s what I have.  There are Jack asses in Sacramento trying to make it illegal for new construction to hook up to natural gas.  

 
 
 
MAGA
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3.2.4  seeder  MAGA  replied to  MAGA @3.2.3    yesterday

I’ve been buying up oil futures tracking etf indexes that make me money when the per barrel price of oil goes up ever since Biden became President.  I’d bought them all during Obama and got rid of them when Trump took office. I sold all my green energy etfs when Obama took office and bought them when Trump took office.  Wins all around.  I figure if Dems are going to screw over the oil industry I’ll just bid the price of oil high enough that we demand a return to drill baby drill!  

 
 
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