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Apologist Ken Ham's response to atheists, skeptics who 'scoff' at Noah's Ark

  
Via:  XXJefferson51  •  5 years ago  •  195 comments

By:   Billy Hallowell

Apologist Ken Ham's response to atheists, skeptics who 'scoff' at Noah's Ark
Ham believes he’s giving visitors the chance to see the biblical epic in a much clearer light. “It makes the Bible come alive in a way that people can’t experience elsewhere,” Ham said. “And it answers these skeptical questions.” The apologist believes the Ark Encounter underscores the great flood as an “integral event in history”

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The flood was a real global event as it was described. It was an earth changing event from the near perfect world of creation to the present less stable version it is now. All the earth quake and volcanic activity, the axis it’s on now and the polar ice as well as all the mixed up fossil layers are due to this event.  It was real and did happen, despite the naysaying of the atheists among us. 


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Apologist Ken Ham, CEO and founder of Answers in Genesis, is no stranger to making headlines as he embraces innovative and uncommon ways of spreading the Christian faith.

But he attracted an entirely new level of international attention when he opened the Ark Encounter in 2016, a lifesize replica of Noah’s Ark, located in Williamstown, Kentucky.

Ham, author of the new book, Will They Stand: Parenting Kids to Face the Giants , recently shared with the “Edifi With Billy Hallowell” podcast the path that led him to build the 510-foot long structure, and his quest to help people better understand scripture.

“Noah’s flood is a very important event … and yet it’s so scoffed at by atheists,” he said, noting that a persistent question always plagued him when he worked as a teacher back in the 1970s.

Listen to Ham discuss this question, his response — and his plea for parents to properly equip their kids to face the giants of the day:

Ham said students would often try to poke holes in the Noah narrative, questioning how all of the animals could have possibly fit inside the ark. They argued that, due to the seemingly insurmountable task, the worldwide flood account simply couldn’t be a real-life story.

This persistent question and argument later left Ham pondering what he could do to better bring the biblical account to life — and that’s where the roots of the Ark Encounter were set.

“What if we built Noah’s Ark to scale using the measurements in the Bible?” he pondered.

That quest culminated in the creation of the massive ark replica, an attraction that is one-and-a-half times the length of a football field. With three decks of exhibits inside the Ark Encounter, Ham believes he’s giving visitors the chance to see the biblical epic in a much clearer light.

“It makes the Bible come alive in a way that people can’t experience elsewhere,” Ham said. “And it answers these skeptical questions.”

The apologist believes the Ark Encounter underscores the great flood as an “integral event in history” and as a reminder of God’s love.

“Noah’s Ark, itself, is a picture of Jesus, as Noah and his family went through one door to be saved,” Ham said. “So we need to go through a door to be saved.”

Listen to Ham discuss the ark as well as his new book urging parents to better equip children for an increasingly chaotic culture here.


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bbl-1
Professor Silent
2  bbl-1    5 years ago

Ken Hamm is a ham and a professional grifter.

Biblical account?  From a cadre of men using ignorance and fear to maintain power.

 
 
 
Freefaller
Professor Quiet
3  Freefaller    5 years ago

I'll assume extremist political bunk wasn't creating enough divisiveness so we're switching back extremist religious bunk.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.1  devangelical  replied to  Freefaller @3    5 years ago

noah's ark - follow the wacky adventures of an incestuous xtian family crowded on a houseboat with their own private zoo during the monsoon season. season 1, episode 1 - the dinosaurs are hungry again.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Guide
3.1.2  sandy-2021492  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.1    5 years ago

Just the first 3 points use the Bible to "prove" the Bible.

Circular argument.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @3.1    5 years ago

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Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1.4  Vic Eldred  replied to  sandy-2021492 @3.1.2    5 years ago
Just the first 3 points use the Bible to "prove" the Bible.

That's not what a religion does. You either take it on faith or you don't.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.1.5  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.4    5 years ago

When someone tries to make a religious argument, that argument is subject to the same rules of logic as any other argument.   Circular religious arguments are fallacious as are circular non-religious arguments.

It is common to argue (in not so few words) that the Bible is divine because the Bible says so.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Guide
3.1.6  sandy-2021492  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.4    5 years ago
That's not what a religion does.

Of course circular arguments are one of the things religion "does".  "It's true because we say it's true."  That doesn't mean it's actually true.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.1.7  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.3    5 years ago

Do you hold that the ark story is true ... that there was a global flood that destroyed all life except that preserved by the ark and that all creatures are descendants of the ark inhabitants?

Do you also hold that dinosaurs were on the ark?

Do you hold that the Earth is < 10,000 years old?

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
3.1.8  cjcold  replied to  devangelical @3.1    5 years ago

The weather started getting rough, the tiny ship was tossed.

If not for the courage of the fearless crew the Minnow would be lost.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.1.11  TᵢG  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.9    5 years ago

@3.1.9  is simply the pasting of another's words.   I ignore those comments and I suspect most others do as well.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
3.1.12  Tacos!  replied to  devangelical @3.1    5 years ago
noah's ark - follow the wacky adventures of an incestuous xtian family crowded on a houseboat with their own private zoo during the monsoon season.

Don't be a hater. Let's see you spend six weeks on a boat and keep it in your pants with no internet porn.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.1.15  TᵢG  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.13    5 years ago
The words of Christians in science who express far better than I the points I want to have made here.  

... are wasted.   Pasting the equivalent of a seed in a comment — especially when you provide zero summary to indicate the point you wish to convey — encourages people to ignore your comment.   So you wind up wasting your time.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.1.17  TᵢG  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.16    5 years ago

The counter seed is for others.   Your participation is not important;  in fact, it is probably best that you continue to play your little boycott game.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Guide
3.1.19  sandy-2021492  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.18    5 years ago

Circular argument plus ad hominem.

Weak.

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Participates
3.1.20  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.1    5 years ago
Is There Evidence of a Global Flood?

No. No there is not! Just the opposite actually.

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Participates
3.1.21  Gordy327  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.4    5 years ago
That's not what a religion does. You either take it on faith or you don't.

If religion makes an affirmative claim, especially as fact (as it often does), it subjects itself to logical scrutiny. Faith doesn't make something factual or true. Neither does belief equal fact.

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Participates
3.1.22  Gordy327  replied to  Tacos! @3.1.12    5 years ago
Let's see you spend six weeks on a boat and keep it in your pants with no internet porn.

That sounds like my version of Hell. jrSmiley_18_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Participates
3.1.23  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.16    5 years ago
Not as much as you wasted typing words I’ll never consider.  Not counting the counter seed I’ll never post on.  

So much for honest debate or discourse. You merely demonstrate an extreme bias.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.1.27  TᵢG  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.24    5 years ago
I don’t believe dinosaurs were on the ark. I believe that they were left outside to not survive to the post flood earth.  

The dinosaurs were extinct 65 million years before human beings existed.   So there were no dinosaurs around to even be denied entrance to the ark.   But second, what is your biblical basis for thinking God excluded dinosaurs?     This one sentence makes me think that you purposely write the most outrageous, stupid comments you can devise.   How you find that valuable is a mystery.

I disagree with Ham on that. I believe that Adam and Eve sinned less than 10,000 years ago.  I make no claim as to the time between their creation and their fall to sin.  

Human beings have been around for 200,000 years.   While there is no single Adam and Eve human beings from which we are all descended, if there were, they would have existed 200,000 years ago.

Also, good grief man, there is physical evidence of civilized human beings dating back more than 10,000 years.    Jericho has evidence of existing as a civilization 11,000 years ago.   There are artifacts of human beings (well prior to civilization) dating back over 165,000 years.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.1.28  TᵢG  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.25    5 years ago

You have nothing to complain about my treatment of you on my articles.   Your claim of mistreatment is just a bullshit excuse.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Guide
3.1.30  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.29    5 years ago
Caiaphas and his co conspirators will one day see the signs and wonders they once demanded at the trial they presided over.

There have not been high priests in about 2,000 years after the destruction of the second temple, so what are you talking about?

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Guide
3.1.31  sandy-2021492  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.26    5 years ago

Of course not.  Why would we?

Anyway, those mostly weren't the supposed words of your supposed god.  They were the words of somebody weaponizing belief in your god, badly.  A familiar tactic.

 
 
 
Thomas
Professor Guide
3.1.33  Thomas  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.10    5 years ago

As a geologist, I find your (and the author's) belief in rapid sedimentation to be fanciful, as well as just plain wrong. 

Pick up a geology textbook. It will enlighten you.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Guide
3.1.34  sandy-2021492  replied to  Thomas @3.1.33    5 years ago
It will enlighten you.

Unlikely.  That would require a desire to be enlightened, rather than confirmed in one's prior beliefs.

MAGA's primary resources in these debates come from Answers in Genesis, which specializes in deliberate confirmation bias, dishonesty encouraged.

 
 
 
Dig
Professor Participates
3.1.35  Dig  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.10    5 years ago
Evidence 1: Fossils of sea creatures high above sea level due to the ocean waters having flooded over the continents We find fossils of sea creatures in rock layers that cover all the continents. For example, most of the rock layers in the walls of Grand Canyon (more than a mile above sea level) contain marine fossils. Fossilized shellfish are even found in the Himalayas.

Yup. All through the rock, too. Deep down, not just on the surface where the 'flood' would have deposited them.

Makes sense... jrSmiley_88_smiley_image.gif

I can't believe obviously fraudulent stuff like this is still making rounds.

Hey MAGA, do you ever stop and think about the crap you post?

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Participates
3.1.36  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.29    5 years ago
No one will survive this world to the next without faith.

That's what religion would say or have one believe. But I'm not one to merely accept the words of a proverbial used car salesman, no questions asked. Especially since those who make such declaration cannot possibly know what God would do or allow. Such arrogant presumption does not lend credibility, much less inspire any kind of faith.

The secularists never take Gods words seriously

Not without at least some evidence. Why would anyone?

 My posts rarely get fair treatment in those places from their owners and their designees.  

Perhaps because you never offer any evidence or logical summary for your posts. All you offer is empty declarations and cut and pasting.

 I disagree with Ham on that.

What makes either you or Hamm right on that? If you can't even agree on the same fairy tale, then how can such a story have validity?

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Silent
3.1.37  bbl-1  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.26    5 years ago

Neither do the small 'c' christians.

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Participates
3.1.39  Gordy327  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.38    5 years ago

Now that's a classic. jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Thomas
Professor Guide
3.1.40  Thomas  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.1    5 years ago

She's lying, there is an Apple on her computer....

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.1.41  TᵢG  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.1    5 years ago

Do you actually believe this bullshit?   Seriously, man, Dr. Purdom is arguing that the evidence of a global flood is that if there were not a global flood then the Noah story would be inconsistent.    For example, she notes that the rainbow is a reminder that no such flood will ever occur.  Thus since there are rainbows, God certainly was not referring to a local flood (which occur all the time) and thus Noah's flood had to be global.

This is nothing more than a variation of trying to use the Bible itself as evidence that the Bible is true.  

Surely you see the problem with that, right?

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Participates
3.1.42  Gordy327  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.41    5 years ago
Dr. Purdom is arguing that the evidence of a global flood is that if there were not a global flood then the Noah story would be inconsistent. 

That's essentially trying make the evidence fit one's own conclusion. It's intellectually dishonest at the very least.

This is nothing more than a variation of trying to use the Bible itself as evidence that the Bible is true.

Circular logic, which is a logical fallacy. Of course, some don't really care about that and are not interested in logic or intellectual honesty.

Surely you see the problem with that, right?

Doubtful.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
3.1.43  cjcold  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.26    5 years ago

Since there is no god; we just don't take religionist' words seriously.

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Participates
3.1.44  Gordy327  replied to  cjcold @3.1.43    5 years ago
Since there is no god; we just don't take religionist' words seriously.

And since there is no evidence for any god/s, we do not take the claims of or on behalf of a god seriously. 

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Silent
3.2  bbl-1  replied to  Freefaller @3    5 years ago

Basically Mr. Freefaller, the political bunk and the religious bunk are identical.

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Silent
3.2.2  bbl-1  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.2.1    5 years ago

There are always outliers on everything.  It means nothing.  Truth is truth, fact is fact and those who accept it understand and those who don't------don't.

 
 
 
Freefaller
Professor Quiet
3.2.3  Freefaller  replied to  bbl-1 @3.2    5 years ago
the political bunk and the religious bunk are identical.

Not sure I completely agree with that, I would say the reasons for the seeder posting both (and anything else) are identical 

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Participates
3.2.4  Split Personality  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.2.1    5 years ago

Please don't respond to a comment and then 19 hours later decide to flag for being off topic per seeder.

Very bad form.

Request denied

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Silent
3.2.5  bbl-1  replied to  Freefaller @3.2.3    5 years ago

Cheek in tongue.  Thanks for proving my point.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Professor Participates
4  Thrawn 31    5 years ago

That huckster is still in business somehow and still pitching that dumbass ark thing? 

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
5  Hallux    5 years ago

One more theory:

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
6  Hallux    5 years ago

The Old Testament is a mix of history and allegory, you will do your God a great disservice if you claim them to be one in the same.

 
 

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