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The Speech that mattered

  
By:  Vic Eldred  •  5 years ago  •  123 comments


The Speech that mattered
America is not a racist country.”

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Last week president Biden made a speech to congress. I doubt many Americans either heard or remember what he said. The important speech, or should I say, the most important speech of the decade was delivered by Senator Tim Scott immediately following Biden's speech. Much of the speech was a critique of the enormity and cost of Mr. Biden’s domestic program, but the most memorable section came when Mr. Scott, a Black Republican who represents South Carolina, declared: “Hear me clearly: America is not a racist country. It’s backwards to fight discrimination with different discrimination. And it’s wrong to try to use our painful past to dishonestly shut down debates in the present.” We all needed to hear that. We have this false narrative being pushed by the radical left that it is. The heart of the problem in addressing that great lie seems to be a weakness involving white America. It seems that white Americans are immobilized by the charge of "racism." That's the nation's fatal flaw and the left knows it.

The left also realized how potent Sen Scott's message was and immediately launched a racial attack on the Senator, calling him "Uncle Tim."  For the seemingly endless national debate on race, that conversation just took a new twist and it took a prominent Black figure in the Republican Party to properly frame the debate.

As Americans continue their journey into an unsettled future, laden with peril, through a much different country, a positive step may have just been taken in the right direction. While progressives have used "race" the way Marxists once used class, the man who defeated Strom Thurman's son for the US congress in 2010 stood up and spoke truth to power. He might just be the leader the nation needs to bring America together on this faux race war.


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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    5 years ago

If America were a racist country, then there would be no hope for the world or humanity.

No other nation has done more to try to build a community for all, than the United States. 


Trump and his supporters are off topic.
I am off topic.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    5 years ago

VIC, WAS AMERICA EVER A RACIST COUNTRY ?

If so, when exactly did that end? 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2    5 years ago
VIC, WAS AMERICA EVER A RACIST COUNTRY ?

Large lettering unnecessary. The obvious answer is yes. When it was it was glaring and all know about it. IMO young students in school know more of that element of the nation's history than all the other elements of our history combined.

As to when it was no longer a dominant problem is not easily marked on a calendar.  If I had to point to one thing it would be the Civil Rights Act becoming law as a key moment. The years that followed saw a great sea change in attitudes. In my lifetime I have clearly seen that dramatic change. I can recall as a boy hearing various people make racist statements. I never hear such comments any more. Everywhere one looks, we see Black Americans achieving status within American society which could hardly be imagined half a century ago. I'm sure there will always be a degree of racism, but in the US it is at an absolute minimum.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
1.2.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.1    5 years ago

Racism is still widespread, it just isnt legally permitted much anymore. A couple miles from my house is an almost all white neighborhood. I know people in that neighborhood who are planning to move to another state (Indiana) because Black Lives Matter had a march (maybe 200 people) through their neighborhood last summer. 

As far as the word nigger goes , there are millions of white Americans who use that word on a regular basis. You are deluding yourself if you think otherwise. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.2.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.2    5 years ago
I couldn't comment to your comment at 1.1.5 regarding what the poster said because it says LOCKED

It seems the poster was what they call a "re-reg."  I just found out why it all got locked. 


but they did claim to be a victim of hatred because he or she was white.  

No Tess, whoever posted it was speaking in general turns, not of personal experience.


What happened to that posters' comments?  I commented to Perrie about them yesterday as it appears they may have been a re-reg or a previously banned member so that's what it looks like to me now - a re-reg or sock puppet - because I am locked from commenting to them and another poster.

I got a feeling you knew before I did.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.2.7  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.4    5 years ago
Racism is still widespread, it just isnt legally permitted much anymore. A couple miles from my house is an almost all white neighborhood. I know people in that neighborhood who are planning to move to another state (Indiana) because Black Lives Matter had a march (maybe 200 people) through their neighborhood last summer. 

If that is your example, you failed miserably. I'm sure there are Black Americans inhabiting the riot torn neighborhoods in blue municipalities who want out as well. We all require everyday basic safety, John.


As far as the word nigger goes , there are millions of white Americans who use that word on a regular basis. You are deluding yourself if you think otherwise. 

The only place I time that word used these days is from Black Americans talking addressing other Black Americans. PERIOD!

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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1.3  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    5 years ago

If Tim Scott decides to seek the Republican nomination for president in 2024, I'd vote for him in a heartbeat.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3  JohnRussell    5 years ago

Somewhere along the way, the opposition to full civil rights , (most important of these rights is the right to no longer be seen as "the other" by the majority group) changed from being trying to keep blacks and other racial minorities down, and into trying to build the white majority up. Not surprisingly this began in the aftermath of the civil rights legislations of the mid 1960's, as it became clear that overt racial discrimination against blacks and other racial minorities was no longer acceptable and they were going to have to be treated with at least minimal equality in the eyes of the law. Suddenly a "silent majority" emerged with a new racial grievance perhaps best seen in the tv character Archie Bunker who often complained that while blacks had the NAACP and black student groups and even the Black Panthers, white people like him didnt have anyone speaking on behalf of their grievances.  Archie failed to understand that white people didnt need groups protesting on their behalf for white people as a group had no grievances. 

50 years later this nonsense is still going on. Some white people, not a tiny minority either, feel they have legitimate grievances. The media pays to much attention to racial minorities, liberal politicians pay too much attention to racial minorities. When a black person is killed by police in suspicious circumstances there are often protests. When some white person makes a racist comment in the media they often get confronted and publicly shamed. This upsets people who speak in white grievance , because sometimes blacks and other minorities are not criticized as much if they say something questionable. Which in turn further aggrieves the afflicted whites. 

When thousands of whites joined in the nationwide protests after the George Floyd killing , it was suddenly perceived that THIS might just be the time to press further on racial issues and really make a push to finally remove the perception that racial minorities are a racial "other" or lesser. Maybe this was the time to finally very overtly confront racism, because many "woke" whites had taken part in the Floyd protests and there was suddenly the hope that whites now "got it". 

To say that the struggle continues is putting it mildly. [DELETED]

50 or 55 years later, I am still trying to figure out what conservative whites have to be aggrieved about. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3    5 years ago

Interesting theory, John.

 
 
 
Gazoo
Masters Silent
3.1.1  Gazoo  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1    5 years ago

More like stupid, asinine theory. I can’t believe people believe and spout shit like that.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Gazoo @3.1.1    5 years ago

It's not a theory, it is reality. 

Please, tell me what legitimate grievances white people have? 

They seem to be most upset that racial minorities are starting to develop an equal voice. 

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
Professor Quiet
3.1.3  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.2    5 years ago

I have a legit grievance.  Starbucks has like 20 varieties of tea, but they don't have any lemons, not even the little packets.

 
 
 
Gazoo
Masters Silent
3.1.4  Gazoo  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.2    5 years ago

Maybe in your bizarro world where everything is racist. Reality is not that way.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.1.5  JohnRussell  replied to  Gazoo @3.1.4    5 years ago

Where did I say everything is racist? 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.1.6  JohnRussell  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @3.1.3    5 years ago

Maybe they are secretly holding back on the lemon so they can give it all to racial minorities. 

 
 
 
Gazoo
Masters Silent
3.1.7  Gazoo  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.5    5 years ago

You haven’t in this discussion, but in others you have implied that racism is everywhere. The US is a racist country. The system is racist. Whites are racist blahblahblah, the only thing that cannot be racist is minorities, which is utter bullshit.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.1.10  JohnRussell  replied to  Gazoo @3.1.7    5 years ago

I have never said blacks cant be racist. Rev Wright of Obama notoriety was a black racist.  Farrakhan is. There are others. 

What I have said is that black racism towards whites is almost entirely a reaction to white racism towards blacks. Rev Wright even said as much. He hated whites because of the way whites had treated blacks throughout the history of America. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1.11  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.2    5 years ago
They seem to be most upset that racial minorities are starting to develop an equal voice.

I doubt any are upset about racial minorities finally doing well.   As far as an equal voice goes, It would seem that progressives want to speak for them. And btw Jim Clyburn telling Black South Carolina voters how to vote hardly equates to an equal voice.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1.12  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.8    5 years ago
NO theory, TRUTH.

And what's your theory?

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
3.1.13  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.12    5 years ago

One person's truth is another's fantasy...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1.14  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @3.1.13    5 years ago

Of course, it shouldn't be that way. We should all have certain facts that everyone accepts.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Participates
3.2  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @3    5 years ago

So why are you and others here aggrieved and upset that many black people don't accept the Dem dogma.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Greg Jones @3.2    5 years ago

I don't care about Tim Scott and I dont refer to him as an Uncle Tom. I am talking about white people who are constantly expressing grievance about how black and other racial minorities  are achieving so much prominence in the national dialogue. 

 
 
 
Gazoo
Masters Silent
3.2.2  Gazoo  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.1    5 years ago

What white people? Give us some examples.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.2.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Gazoo @3.2.2    5 years ago

Uh, do you read Newstalkers comments? 

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
4  Hallux    5 years ago

"No other nation has done more to try to build a community for all, than the United States."

Really? I live in one of them.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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6  Thrawn 31    5 years ago

I don’t consider either speech to be important, but Scott’s less so because Biden is the president and therefore more influential. Speeches are fun I guess, but unless they are paying out a specific plan of action they are pretty fucking useless.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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7  Bob Nelson    5 years ago

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