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The Speech that mattered

  
By:  Vic Eldred  •  3 years ago  •  123 comments


The Speech that mattered
America is not a racist country.”

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Last week president Biden made a speech to congress. I doubt many Americans either heard or remember what he said. The important speech, or should I say, the most important speech of the decade was delivered by Senator Tim Scott immediately following Biden's speech. Much of the speech was a critique of the enormity and cost of Mr. Biden’s domestic program, but the most memorable section came when Mr. Scott, a Black Republican who represents South Carolina, declared: “Hear me clearly: America is not a racist country. It’s backwards to fight discrimination with different discrimination. And it’s wrong to try to use our painful past to dishonestly shut down debates in the present.” We all needed to hear that. We have this false narrative being pushed by the radical left that it is. The heart of the problem in addressing that great lie seems to be a weakness involving white America. It seems that white Americans are immobilized by the charge of "racism." That's the nation's fatal flaw and the left knows it.

The left also realized how potent Sen Scott's message was and immediately launched a racial attack on the Senator, calling him "Uncle Tim."  For the seemingly endless national debate on race, that conversation just took a new twist and it took a prominent Black figure in the Republican Party to properly frame the debate.

As Americans continue their journey into an unsettled future, laden with peril, through a much different country, a positive step may have just been taken in the right direction. While progressives have used "race" the way Marxists once used class, the man who defeated Strom Thurman's son for the US congress in 2010 stood up and spoke truth to power. He might just be the leader the nation needs to bring America together on this faux race war.


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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    3 years ago

If America were a racist country, then there would be no hope for the world or humanity.

No other nation has done more to try to build a community for all, than the United States. 


Trump and his supporters are off topic.
I am off topic.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    3 years ago

VIC, WAS AMERICA EVER A RACIST COUNTRY ?

If so, when exactly did that end? 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2    3 years ago
VIC, WAS AMERICA EVER A RACIST COUNTRY ?

Large lettering unnecessary. The obvious answer is yes. When it was it was glaring and all know about it. IMO young students in school know more of that element of the nation's history than all the other elements of our history combined.

As to when it was no longer a dominant problem is not easily marked on a calendar.  If I had to point to one thing it would be the Civil Rights Act becoming law as a key moment. The years that followed saw a great sea change in attitudes. In my lifetime I have clearly seen that dramatic change. I can recall as a boy hearing various people make racist statements. I never hear such comments any more. Everywhere one looks, we see Black Americans achieving status within American society which could hardly be imagined half a century ago. I'm sure there will always be a degree of racism, but in the US it is at an absolute minimum.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.1    3 years ago

I couldn't comment to your comment at 1.1.5 regarding what the poster said because it says LOCKED- but they did claim to be a victim of hatred because he or she was white.  

What happened to that posters' comments?  I commented to Perrie about them yesterday as it appears they may have been a re-reg or a previously banned member so that's what it looks like to me now - a re-reg or sock puppet - because I am locked from commenting to them and another poster.

Hmmmmmm

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.3  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.1    3 years ago

That's YOUR opinion and what YOU see.  To say racism in the U.S. is at an absolute minimum is not dealing in reality.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.2.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.1    3 years ago

Racism is still widespread, it just isnt legally permitted much anymore. A couple miles from my house is an almost all white neighborhood. I know people in that neighborhood who are planning to move to another state (Indiana) because Black Lives Matter had a march (maybe 200 people) through their neighborhood last summer. 

As far as the word nigger goes , there are millions of white Americans who use that word on a regular basis. You are deluding yourself if you think otherwise. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.2.5  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.4    3 years ago

Maybe those people who are planning to move watch the news and see how some of those peaceful protests in Portland and Seattle have turned out. Maybe they want to ensure that the largest investment many people ever make (their home) is fully protected.

What is wrong about people deciding where to live?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.2    3 years ago
I couldn't comment to your comment at 1.1.5 regarding what the poster said because it says LOCKED

It seems the poster was what they call a "re-reg."  I just found out why it all got locked. 


but they did claim to be a victim of hatred because he or she was white.  

No Tess, whoever posted it was speaking in general turns, not of personal experience.


What happened to that posters' comments?  I commented to Perrie about them yesterday as it appears they may have been a re-reg or a previously banned member so that's what it looks like to me now - a re-reg or sock puppet - because I am locked from commenting to them and another poster.

I got a feeling you knew before I did.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.7  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.4    3 years ago
Racism is still widespread, it just isnt legally permitted much anymore. A couple miles from my house is an almost all white neighborhood. I know people in that neighborhood who are planning to move to another state (Indiana) because Black Lives Matter had a march (maybe 200 people) through their neighborhood last summer. 

If that is your example, you failed miserably. I'm sure there are Black Americans inhabiting the riot torn neighborhoods in blue municipalities who want out as well. We all require everyday basic safety, John.


As far as the word nigger goes , there are millions of white Americans who use that word on a regular basis. You are deluding yourself if you think otherwise. 

The only place I time that word used these days is from Black Americans talking addressing other Black Americans. PERIOD!

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.8  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.6    3 years ago

No, the poster did say they were a victim of hatred because of their whiteness.

I did know before you did because it was so obvious.  

New friend indeed!

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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1.3  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    3 years ago

If Tim Scott decides to seek the Republican nomination for president in 2024, I'd vote for him in a heartbeat.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.3.1  XXJefferson51  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.3    3 years ago

Me too!  He and De Santis would make a great ticket!  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.4  XXJefferson51  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    3 years ago

A great article.  We are a work in progress toward a more perfect Union as our founding fathers envisioned.  They didn’t envision that some so called “Americans” would reject their own nation, it’s founding, and the founding documents.  They didn’t account for the cancer that would come into power some 130 years after the founding led by the racist Woodrow Wilson called progressives.   America is not a racist country!

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2  Tessylo    3 years ago

Scott's speech didn't matter.  It was President Biden's that mattered.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @2    3 years ago

Oh, that settles it.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.1  XXJefferson51  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    3 years ago

Many said that his speech eclipsed Bidens and was more consequential. 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.2  Ozzwald  replied to  Tessylo @2    3 years ago
Scott's speech didn't matter.  It was President Biden's that mattered.

Scott's "response" was most likely written months in advance.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.2.1  Tessylo  replied to  Ozzwald @2.2    3 years ago

Uncle Scott.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.2.2  Tessylo  replied to  Ozzwald @2.2    3 years ago

Plus it was all lies.  I believe his 'response' was written for him.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.2.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @2.2.1    3 years ago

Shame! 

Progressive trying to keep Black Americans in line!

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.2.4  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.3    3 years ago

What do you mean?

You're putting words in my mouth.

You need to stop doing that.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.2.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @2.2.4    3 years ago
You're putting words in my mouth.

Nope - You said it - You said "Uncle Scott."  That is a racial smear.

 
 
 
JBB
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2.2.6  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.5    3 years ago

An Uncle Tom was a self loathing black man who betrayed his own race by siding with the slave masters and slave drivers. In modern parlance a self loathing black man who sides with the racists to oppose equality for all...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.2.7  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @2.2.6    3 years ago

That's always been a racial smear - now used by progressives to keep Black Americans in line.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.2.8  Sean Treacy  replied to  Tessylo @2.2.1    3 years ago

Uncle Scott.

The racism just exploding off the page today.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.2.9  Sean Treacy  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.7    3 years ago

a t's always been a racial smear - now used by progressives to keep Black Americans in line

Progressive racists are loud and proud today. And why not? Overtly racist attacks on blacks aren't something the democratic party cares about. 

It's part of their DNA. 

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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2.2.10  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.7    3 years ago

What exactly does "keeping them in line" equate to?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.11  JohnRussell  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @2.2.10    3 years ago

Now they want us to believe that "Uncle Tom" is as commonplace and as grievous as "nigger". 

The white right will say anything to minimize the perception of white racism. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.2.12  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.2.9    3 years ago

They are bold & blatant about it!


It's part of their DNA. 

As das leader used to say "It's who we are!"

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.2.13  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @2.2.10    3 years ago
What exactly does "keeping them in line" equate to?

Preventing them from thinking for themselves. 

Black Americans & feminists aren't supposed to think for themselves, don't ya know!

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2.2.14  Greg Jones  replied to  JBB @2.2.6    3 years ago
An Uncle Tom was a self loathing black man who betrayed his own race by siding with the slave masters and slave drivers. In modern parlance a self loathing black man who sides with the racists to oppose equality for all...

So all minorities should obediently accept leftist lies and propaganda like mindless sheep? Talk about a racist bunch of bullshit. Appears to be the progressive way

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Vic Eldred
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2.2.15  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.11    3 years ago
Now they want us to believe that "Uncle Tom" is as commonplace and as grievous as "nigger". 

Not commonplace John, it's only used in cases where Black Americans think thoughts the left doesn't want them to think. It is however, as grievous as the word you used (the rest of us don't use that term)

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.2.16  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.11    3 years ago
The white right will say anything to minimize the perception of white racism. 

In a thread where the white left is trying to minimize the racism they openly flaunt.  

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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2.2.17  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.13    3 years ago

That is news to me.  I know plenty of both who think for themselves quite brilliantly.

 
 
 
Gazoo
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2.2.18  Gazoo  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.11    3 years ago

“Now they want us to believe that "Uncle Tom" is as commonplace and as grievous as "nigger".”

actually it is more commonplace. I see libs spout off about uncle tim or uncle tom way more than i see the word nigger. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.2.19  Tessylo  replied to  JBB @2.2.6    3 years ago

So that is a great description of Scott then, isn't it?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2.2.20  Greg Jones  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @2.2.17    3 years ago

But you still think that Blacks and Hispanics were born to serve Whites?

That appears to be the collective viewpoint of the Democrats, judging by many comments.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.21  JohnRussell  replied to  Gazoo @2.2.18    3 years ago
actually it is more commonplace. I see libs spout off about uncle tim or uncle tom way more than i see the word nigger. 

I was waiting for someone to say something so ridiculous. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.2.22  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.11    3 years ago

"Now they want us to believe that "Uncle Tom" is as commonplace and as grievous as "nigger". 

The white right will say anything to minimize the perception of white racism."

They're eternal victims!

A poster above, his comments are gone now, and I wonder why - stated that he was a victim of hatred because he is white.  

 
 
 
Gazoo
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2.2.23  Gazoo  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.21    3 years ago

I don’t even remember the last time i saw or heard the word “nigger”. But i see libs calling other blacks uncle this or uncle that frequently online. Good job john.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.2.24  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.12    3 years ago

Who is 'das leader'?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.2.25  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.13    3 years ago

How are black americans and feminists not allowed to speak for themselves and how are we stopping them from doing that?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.2.26  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.15    3 years ago

How is the left not allowing them to think thoughts that 'we don't want them to think'?

How do we control other's thoughts?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.2.27  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.7    3 years ago

Whenever a black person leaves the Democratic plantation, progressives call them Uncle Toms.

I guess they just can't wrap their heads around the fact that some of their constituents have their own minds and don't owe the Democratic Party any bit of loyalty or gratitude.

Progressives are allowed to be openly racist while crying about perceived injustices they claim are perpetrated by Republican, white, conservatives.

 
 
 
cjcold
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2.2.28  cjcold  replied to  Tessylo @2.2.26    3 years ago

It's opposite day on the GOP home world (again) today.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.2.29  Texan1211  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @2.2.17    3 years ago

Know any that have left the Democratic plantation yet?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.2.31  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.11    3 years ago
hat "Uncle Tom" is as commonplace and 

Is that what you are reduced to? Trying to differentiate between racial slurs?

Sometimes you see people claim all the white racists are "conservatives."  This thread destroys that argument.  In this thread we have paternalistic white liberals attacking a black man for refusing to think and act how the white person believes black people are supposed to act. It doesn't get more racist than that.  It's literally white people attacking a black person on the basis of his race.

But you can even see the slightly more subtle racist attacks employed.  Now the claim gets made that TIm Scott didn't write his own speech. But no claim that Biden didn't write his own speech.  Think about that.  Putting aside Biden's documented history of stealing other's words and passing them off as his own, Biden's own press secretary  admitted they don't want him answering spur of the moment questions for fear of what he'd say.  Yet Scott is supposedly the one who didn't write his own speech?  It's  reminiscent of the attacks leveled against Clarence Thomas and his legal opinions but not, say, Justice Breyer. For some racist liberals, a black man is never capable of doing his own work or speaking in his own voice. . 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.2.32  Tessylo  replied to  cjcold @2.2.28    3 years ago

Well that's every day then!  I'm not sure who posted it - but some other article stated that those on the left are controlling the thoughts of others.  Controlling how they think.  How does that happen?  I didn't know I had such powers!

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.2.33  Texan1211  replied to  Ozzwald @2.2    3 years ago

Biden's address was just as likely written months in advance.

So what?????

What POSSIBLE damn difference could it make?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.2.34  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Kathleen @2.2.30    3 years ago

You got that right!

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.2.35  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @2.2.6    3 years ago
An Uncle Tom was a self loathing black man who betrayed his own race by siding with the slave masters and slave drivers. In modern parlance a self loathing black man who sides with the racists to oppose equality for all...

Or, in reality, in today's world, an Uncle Tom is simply any person of color leaving the Democratic plantation.

Progressives are quick to use the term whenever any conservative person of color dares to speak out---if they don't follow Democratic Party talking points.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.2.36  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @2.2.27    3 years ago

They know it's true Tex.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.37  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.2.31    3 years ago

I dont think much about Tim Scott one way or the other. 

White grievers pounce on statements (that show blacks criticizing conservative blacks) as if they have found the holy grail. Its almost funny. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.2.38  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.37    3 years ago
(that show blacks criticizing conservative blacks

Uh,  Do you read Newstalkers comments?

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.2.40  Ozzwald  replied to  Texan1211 @2.2.33    3 years ago

Biden's address was just as likely written months in advance.

So what?????

What POSSIBLE damn difference could it make?

You understand that Scott's speech was a response to Biden's, correct?  When your response is written prior to your hearing what it is supposed to be responding to, just makes it dishonest.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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2.2.41  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.3    3 years ago

Does not matter who did the speech, the response from the liberal left and the Democrats would have been the same. The fact that Scott is a conservative Republican and African American was just icing on the cake as far as many are concerned.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.2.42  Texan1211  replied to  Ozzwald @2.2.40    3 years ago

I don't believe for one second that you have listened to Scott's speech nor read a transcript of it, or you wouldn't have been able to post that with a straight face.

And since you fail to recognize where in his speech that Scott responded to the President's speech, what's the point of discussion with someone who doesn't even know what Scott talked about other than the Democratic talking points someone has fed you?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.2.43  Tessylo  replied to  Ozzwald @2.2.40    3 years ago
"You understand that Scott's speech was a response to Biden's, correct?  When your response is written prior to your hearing what it is supposed to be responding to, just makes it dishonest."

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Ozzwald
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2.2.44  Ozzwald  replied to  Texan1211 @2.2.42    3 years ago
I don't believe for one second that you have listened to Scott's speech nor read a transcript of it, or you wouldn't have been able to post that with a straight face.

I don't believe you even posted that comment with a straight face.

And since you fail to recognize where in his speech that Scott responded to the President's speech, what's the point of discussion with someone who doesn't even know what Scott talked about other than the Democratic talking points someone has fed you?

It was a canned generic response, that was able to address a few of the topics out of sheer luck, and having a general knowledge of what Biden's address would contain.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.2.45  Texan1211  replied to  Ozzwald @2.2.44    3 years ago
I don't believe you even posted that comment with a straight face.

Good, because I was laughing my ass off.

It was a canned generic response, that was able to address a few of the topics out of sheer luck, and having a general knowledge of what Biden's address would contain.  

Nice spinning there!

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Ozzwald
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2.2.46  Ozzwald  replied to  Texan1211 @2.2.45    3 years ago
Nice spinning there!

Are you claiming he made up his speech on the spot?  Seriously???

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.2.47  Texan1211  replied to  Ozzwald @2.2.46    3 years ago

Man, you have really got to learn to read what I post.

read it and then ask a sensible question if you have one.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.2.48  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tessylo @2.2.1    3 years ago

Really?  Even liberal Twitter stopped that kind of racist post trend. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.2.49  XXJefferson51  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.2.16    3 years ago

That is the bottom line here!  

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.2.50  Ozzwald  replied to  Texan1211 @2.2.47    3 years ago
Man, you have really got to learn to read what I post.

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Texan1211
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2.2.51  Texan1211  replied to  Ozzwald @2.2.46    3 years ago

did you see those words in my post?

did you see me make that claim?

Seriously??!!

 
 
 
Dulay
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2.2.52  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @2.2.27    3 years ago
Whenever a black person leaves the Democratic plantation, progressives call them Uncle Toms.

When was Tim Scott ever on 'the Democratic plantation' Tex? 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.2.53  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @2.2.52    3 years ago

I clearly did not say that Scott was ever on it.

did you think he was at some point?

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.2.54  Ozzwald  replied to  Texan1211 @2.2.51    3 years ago

Seriously??!!

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Texan1211
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2.2.55  Texan1211  replied to  Ozzwald @2.2.54    3 years ago

No one covers for me.

I don't even know nor really care what you wrote that was deleted.

I do know you asked some inane question.

I can live without those.

 
 
 
Dulay
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2.2.56  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @2.2.53    3 years ago
I clearly did not say that Scott was ever on it. did you think he was at some point?

Well then your statement was irrelevant. Thanks for playing. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.2.57  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @2.2.56    3 years ago

Then it must have been even more stupid for you to waste time responding.

Thanks for losing.

 
 
 
Dulay
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2.2.58  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @2.2.57    3 years ago
Then it must have been even more stupid for you to waste time responding.

Nope. Pointing out your irrelevant comments is a well worth while. 

Thanks for losing.

You're welcome to the Charlie Sheen version of WINNING! Tex. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.2.59  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @2.2.58    3 years ago

You're welcome to the Hillary style of "winning".

get back to me when you decide to make some sense.

On second thought--scratch that.

No need to get back to me--ever.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3  JohnRussell    3 years ago

Somewhere along the way, the opposition to full civil rights , (most important of these rights is the right to no longer be seen as "the other" by the majority group) changed from being trying to keep blacks and other racial minorities down, and into trying to build the white majority up. Not surprisingly this began in the aftermath of the civil rights legislations of the mid 1960's, as it became clear that overt racial discrimination against blacks and other racial minorities was no longer acceptable and they were going to have to be treated with at least minimal equality in the eyes of the law. Suddenly a "silent majority" emerged with a new racial grievance perhaps best seen in the tv character Archie Bunker who often complained that while blacks had the NAACP and black student groups and even the Black Panthers, white people like him didnt have anyone speaking on behalf of their grievances.  Archie failed to understand that white people didnt need groups protesting on their behalf for white people as a group had no grievances. 

50 years later this nonsense is still going on. Some white people, not a tiny minority either, feel they have legitimate grievances. The media pays to much attention to racial minorities, liberal politicians pay too much attention to racial minorities. When a black person is killed by police in suspicious circumstances there are often protests. When some white person makes a racist comment in the media they often get confronted and publicly shamed. This upsets people who speak in white grievance , because sometimes blacks and other minorities are not criticized as much if they say something questionable. Which in turn further aggrieves the afflicted whites. 

When thousands of whites joined in the nationwide protests after the George Floyd killing , it was suddenly perceived that THIS might just be the time to press further on racial issues and really make a push to finally remove the perception that racial minorities are a racial "other" or lesser. Maybe this was the time to finally very overtly confront racism, because many "woke" whites had taken part in the Floyd protests and there was suddenly the hope that whites now "got it". 

To say that the struggle continues is putting it mildly. [DELETED]

50 or 55 years later, I am still trying to figure out what conservative whites have to be aggrieved about. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3    3 years ago

Interesting theory, John.

 
 
 
Gazoo
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3.1.1  Gazoo  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1    3 years ago

More like stupid, asinine theory. I can’t believe people believe and spout shit like that.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Gazoo @3.1.1    3 years ago

It's not a theory, it is reality. 

Please, tell me what legitimate grievances white people have? 

They seem to be most upset that racial minorities are starting to develop an equal voice. 

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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3.1.3  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.2    3 years ago

I have a legit grievance.  Starbucks has like 20 varieties of tea, but they don't have any lemons, not even the little packets.

 
 
 
Gazoo
Junior Silent
3.1.4  Gazoo  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.2    3 years ago

Maybe in your bizarro world where everything is racist. Reality is not that way.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.1.5  JohnRussell  replied to  Gazoo @3.1.4    3 years ago

Where did I say everything is racist? 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.1.6  JohnRussell  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @3.1.3    3 years ago

Maybe they are secretly holding back on the lemon so they can give it all to racial minorities. 

 
 
 
Gazoo
Junior Silent
3.1.7  Gazoo  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.5    3 years ago

You haven’t in this discussion, but in others you have implied that racism is everywhere. The US is a racist country. The system is racist. Whites are racist blahblahblah, the only thing that cannot be racist is minorities, which is utter bullshit.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.1.8  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1    3 years ago

NO theory, TRUTH.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.1.9  Texan1211  replied to  Gazoo @3.1.1    3 years ago

What's worse is that they actually believe all that crap.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.1.10  JohnRussell  replied to  Gazoo @3.1.7    3 years ago

I have never said blacks cant be racist. Rev Wright of Obama notoriety was a black racist.  Farrakhan is. There are others. 

What I have said is that black racism towards whites is almost entirely a reaction to white racism towards blacks. Rev Wright even said as much. He hated whites because of the way whites had treated blacks throughout the history of America. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1.11  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.2    3 years ago
They seem to be most upset that racial minorities are starting to develop an equal voice.

I doubt any are upset about racial minorities finally doing well.   As far as an equal voice goes, It would seem that progressives want to speak for them. And btw Jim Clyburn telling Black South Carolina voters how to vote hardly equates to an equal voice.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1.12  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.8    3 years ago
NO theory, TRUTH.

And what's your theory?

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
3.1.13  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.12    3 years ago

One person's truth is another's fantasy...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1.14  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @3.1.13    3 years ago

Of course, it shouldn't be that way. We should all have certain facts that everyone accepts.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Participates
3.2  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @3    3 years ago

So why are you and others here aggrieved and upset that many black people don't accept the Dem dogma.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Greg Jones @3.2    3 years ago

I don't care about Tim Scott and I dont refer to him as an Uncle Tom. I am talking about white people who are constantly expressing grievance about how black and other racial minorities  are achieving so much prominence in the national dialogue. 

 
 
 
Gazoo
Junior Silent
3.2.2  Gazoo  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.1    3 years ago

What white people? Give us some examples.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.2.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Gazoo @3.2.2    3 years ago

Uh, do you read Newstalkers comments? 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.2.4  Texan1211  replied to  Gazoo @3.2.2    3 years ago

Best watch out, I am sure some obscure example will be forthcoming from the bowels of the internet---and probably about someone we have never heard of or have dismissed as being out-of-touch idiots.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.3  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @3    3 years ago

Spot on John!  Every single word!!!!!!!

 
 
 
Hallux
PhD Principal
4  Hallux    3 years ago

"No other nation has done more to try to build a community for all, than the United States."

Really? I live in one of them.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Professor Guide
6  Thrawn 31    3 years ago

I don’t consider either speech to be important, but Scott’s less so because Biden is the president and therefore more influential. Speeches are fun I guess, but unless they are paying out a specific plan of action they are pretty fucking useless.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
7  Bob Nelson    3 years ago

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