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New NY governor adds 12,000 deaths to publicized COVID tally

  
Via:  Just Jim NC TttH  •  5 years ago  •  26 comments

By:   MARINA VILLENEUVE (MSN)

New NY governor adds 12,000 deaths to publicized COVID tally
ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) — New York Gov. Kathy Hochul promised more government transparency on her first day in office and by day's end her administration had quietly delivered it by acknowledging nearly 12,000 more deaths in the state from COVID-19 than had been publicized by her predecessor, Andrew Cuomo. New York now reports nearly 55,400 people have died of COVID-19 in New York based on death certificate data submitted to the CDC, up from about...

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ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) — New York Gov. Kathy Hochul promised more government transparency on her first day in office and by day's end her administration had quietly delivered it by acknowledging nearly 12,000 more deaths in the state from COVID-19 than had been publicized by her predecessor, Andrew Cuomo.

e151e5.gif© Provided by Associated Press New York Gov. Kathy Hochul speaks to reporters after a ceremonial swearing-in ceremony at the state Capitol, Tuesday, Aug. 24, 2021, in Albany, N.Y. (AP Photo/Hans Pennink)

New York now reports nearly 55,400 people have died of COVID-19 in New York based on death certificate data submitted to the CDC, up from about 43,400 that Gov. Cuomo had reported to the public as of Monday, his last day in office.

"We're now releasing more data than had been released before publicly, so people know the nursing home deaths and the hospital deaths are consistent with what's being displayed by the CDC," Hochul said Wednesday on MSNBC. "There's a lot of things that weren't happening and I'm going to make them happen. Transparency will be the hallmark of my administration."

The Associated Press first reported in July on the large discrepancy between the fatality numbers publicized by the Cuomo administration and numbers the state was reporting to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The count used by Cuomo in his news media briefings only included laboratory-confirmed COVID-19 deaths reported through a state system that collects data from hospitals, nursing homes and adult care facilities. That meant the tally excluded people who died at home, hospice, in state prisons or at state-run homes for people living with disabilities. It also excluded people who likely died of COVID-19 but never got a positive test to confirm the diagnosis.

That lower number favored by the Cuomo administration still appeared in the daily update put out by Hochul's office Tuesday, but with an explanation about why it was an incomplete count.

"There are presumed and confirmed deaths. People should know both," Hochul said in a Wednesday morning appearance on NPR. "Also, as of yesterday, we're using CDC numbers, which will be consistent. And so there's no opportunity for us to mask those numbers, nor do I want to mask those numbers. The public deserves a clear, honest picture of what's happening. And that's whether it's good or bad, they need to know the truth. And that's how we restore confidence."

Cuomo's critics had long charged that he was manipulating coronavirus statics to burnish his image as a pandemic leader.

Federal prosecutors previously launched a probe examining his administration's handling of data around deaths among nursing home patients. The state, under Cuomo, had minimized its toll of nursing home residents' deaths by excluding all patients who died after being transferred to hospitals.

Cuomo used those lower numbers last year to erroneously claim that New York was seeing a much smaller percentage of nursing home residents dying of COVID-19 than other states.

The state Assembly Judiciary committee has also been investigating that issue as part of a wide-ranging impeachment probe, and is weighing whether to include those findings in a public report.

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Just Jim NC TttH
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1  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH    5 years ago

Holy shit!!!!!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2  Sean Treacy    5 years ago

And somehow the media will blame desantis for this

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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2.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sean Treacy @2    5 years ago

Only if he did the same thing.... and he is not reporting so who the heck knows.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
2.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.1    5 years ago

Please provide evidence  desantis is lying or “not reporting”

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.1.2  Split Personality  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.1    5 years ago

Besides the public battle about counting deaths from cruise ships and nursing homes?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  Split Personality @2.1.2    5 years ago

Lol...

The famous "gotcha" about excess deaths in Florida where if you actually read the report:

"excess deaths were at 21 percent nationwide for 2020, according to the CDC; Florida saw a 15.5 percent rate of excess deaths for the period that Tatar studied"

What's  next citing Rebakah Jones? 

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.1.4  Split Personality  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.3    5 years ago

LOL, the question was provide proof that DeSantis lied or misrepresented.

No "gothcha", just a google search that took 30 seconds to find 4 headlines that implied he did.

"excess deaths were at 21 percent nationwide for 2020, according to the CDC; Florida saw a 15.5 percent rate of excess deaths for the period that Tatar studied"

Totally immaterial to the question you asked.

What's  next citing Rebakah Jones? 

No point in trying to change your mind that she's been debunked and works for the CCP, but you could try to spell the name correctly, she's apparently running against the underage sex trafficking Gaetz.

 
 
 
Hallux
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2.1.5  Hallux  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.1    5 years ago

Florida is a strange case, over the past several days they have reported skyrocketing Covid hospitalizations along with plunging deaths ... something does not rhyme.

 
 
 
Kavika
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2.1.6  Kavika   replied to  Hallux @2.1.5    5 years ago

The Florida DOH only reports Covid deaths once per week and does not specify what area of Florida they occur in per Desantis.

In June Florida stopped reporting or collecting data on LTCF deaths.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.7  Sean Treacy  replied to  Split Personality @2.1.4    5 years ago
 to find 4 headlines that implied he did

The left wing media "implies" he injects people with covid and turns off ventilators. I asked for actual proof. The whole point of what I wrote is premised on the fact that the  media "implies" all sorts of nonsense to smear him. 

Totally immaterial to the question you asked.

Then why did you post it?  I apologize for assuming you read your links or meant them to be responsive to what I posted.  

point in trying to change your mind that she's been debunked

Why don't you try? Then you can tell us how 9/11 was an inside job. 

e's apparently running against the underage sex trafficking Gaetz.

That's more believable than what progressives believe about her. 

 
 
 
Kavika
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2.1.8  Kavika   replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.1    5 years ago

In June of this year Florida stopped reporting or collecting data on deaths in LTCF.

for the week ending 8/19 there were 346 COVID deaths in Florida.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.1.9  Split Personality  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.7    5 years ago
The left wing media "implies" he injects people with covid and turns off ventilators. I asked for actual proof.

No surprise that you believe that,  Do YOU actually have any links to nonsense like that

or is it just more made up "feelings".

The whole point of what I wrote is premised on the fact that the  media "implies" all sorts of nonsense to smear him. 

Hint.  He's a public figure like Hillary, Biden Trump and Pompeo. 

They are all fair game if you haven't been paying attention to NT & Fox News.

Then you can tell us how 9/11 was an inside job. 

Wow, there's an All Star deflection..../s

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.1.10  Split Personality  replied to  Kavika @2.1.6    5 years ago
In June Florida stopped reporting or collecting data on LTCF deaths.

again.

Per NY and FL logic, patients aren't expected to check out.  They're already dead statistically.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.11  Sean Treacy  replied to  Kavika @2.1.8    5 years ago
June of this year Florida stopped reporting or collecting data on deaths in LTCF.

Please provide a link that deaths in LTCF's dont count in Florida. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.12  Sean Treacy  replied to  Split Personality @2.1.9    5 years ago
No surprise that you believe that,

It's called hyperbole. [Deleted]

int.  He's a public figure like Hillary, Biden Trump and Pompeo. 

Hint... The media were calling themselves "cuomosexuals" because of what a great job Cuomo was supposedly doing.[Deleted]

ow, there's an All Star deflectio

IT wasn't a deflection. [Deleted]  I'll invite you, again, to defend Rebeakakhh Jones. She's a perfect example of what I am talking about. I'm more than happy to discuss her lies and how the media fell for them till the cows home. 

[Deleted]

So, by all means, defend your belief in her. 

 
 
 
Kavika
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2.1.14  Kavika   replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.11    5 years ago

I didn’t say they didn’t count. They are not being reported as deaths taking place in a LTCF. They are lumped in with all Covid deaths in Florida  if they are reported at all with no info on the city,county they occur in.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.1.15  Split Personality  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.12    5 years ago
I'll invite you, again, to defend Rebeakakhh Jones. She's a perfect example of what I am talking about. I'm more than happy to discuss her lies and how the media fell for them till the cows home. 

Unlike you, I can at least respect the seeder, and stay on topic.

Take your childish spelling and go publish a seed about your pet bias.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3  Sparty On    5 years ago

Not a surprise, not a surprise at all.

Now .... will he be held accountable?

One can only hope.

 
 
 
squiggy
Junior Silent
4  squiggy    5 years ago

So many new voters.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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5  Split Personality    5 years ago

I've repeated this story too many times.  COVID deaths are under reported. 

My ex was sick for a week with COVID and they found her dead in bed.

Coroner said, no crime, natural causes and we don't waste covid tests on the deceased in NC.

BIL died at home in similar circumstances after being released from the COVID ward in an AZ hospital,

the coroner said something like "he had to have tested negative to be released" = natural causes/pneumonia...

The bottom line is vague.

 
 
 
Transyferous Rex
Freshman Silent
6  Transyferous Rex    5 years ago
"Transparency will be the hallmark of my administration.”

That would be a welcome change anywhere. 

 
 

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