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Biden's presidency is already showing signs of fizzling out

  
Via:  Just Jim NC TttH  •  5 years ago  •  100 comments

By:   Paul Brandus (MSN)

Biden's presidency is already showing signs of fizzling out
The president is taking hits from all sides — even his gargantuan infrastructure plan faces some Democratic opposition.

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Surprise. He is NOT his former boss no matter how people were hoping. 

Tough shit.


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A sense of urgency swirls about President Biden. His age — he'll be 79 in two months — is one reason.

But there is also this: Biden, the oldest chief executive in American history, is looking more and more like a one-termer, a one-and-done transitory figure between the Trump era and whatever comes next. I think he knows this, and understands that he now has a rapidly narrowing window — just a few months — to cross off the items on his ambitious to-do list.

Why just a few months? Because the 2022 midterm election is fast approaching, and history tells us that whoever the president is, his party is quite likely to lose seats in Congress.

The odds are heavily stacked against Biden. There have been 18 midterm elections since 1946, and the president's party lost ground in 16 of them — 88% of the time.

More ominously for Biden, his approval in two aggregate polls — Real Clear Politics and FiveThirtyEight — stands at 46.3% and 46.5%, respectively. Incumbent presidents with similar numbers got shellacked in past midterms. In 2010, Barack Obama's approval stood at 45% (Gallup); Democrats lost 63 seats — and with it, the House. In 1994, the same thing happened to Bill Clinton. His Gallup approval was 46% and Republicans gained 53 seats, and the House. Do the words "Speaker Newt Gingrich" ring a bell?

But Republicans don't need one of these "red wave" tsunamis to flip the House. They only need to pick up a modest five seats. Based on present conditions and the above history, I think a Republican takeover of the House a year from now is almost a certainty.

So there's little reason for Republicans to cooperate with the president on much, certainly not his plans to raise taxes. The president wants to hike the top tax rate to 39.6% on individuals earning more than $400,000, or $450,000 for couples, and there would be a 3% tax on wealthier Americans with adjusted income beyond $5 million a year.

Corporations would see their rate lifted to 26.5% from the Trump-era 21%. There are other taxes too, but you get the idea.

The Tax Foundation, in a revision of prior estimates, said last week that the overall Democratic proposal "would reduce long-run economic output by 0.98 percent and eliminate 303,000 full-time equivalent jobs in the United States. It would also reduce after-tax incomes for the top 80% of taxpayers over the long-run."

Hours after that analysis was made public, the president appeared before TV cameras to claim otherwise, saying the Democratic plan will create "real, sustained economic growth, and that benefits everyone, including working people and middle-class folks."

In any case, the tax plan is part of the president's gargantuan $3.5 trillion social spending package, which is proceeding through Congress at the speed of molasses.

Meantime, as the president takes flak from Republicans over that, his other big initiative — an infrastructure bill, which which has passed the Senate — is being held hostage in the House by far-left Democrats like New York's Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who say they won't vote to fix roads, bridges and all the rest until the social spending plan is passed first.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has pledged to bring the infrastructure bill up for a vote by Sept. 27, just days away, but so far the lefties in her caucus haven't budged. There's a very real possibility that the centerpiece of this president's entire agenda could be shot down by his own party.

"Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right, here I am," sang Stealers Wheel (best known for accompanying a gruesome scene in the movie "Reservoir Dogs"), and it describes the president's predicament well.

He's getting it on all sides.

He needs some wins to reverse his sagging fortunes, but so far has come up empty. Meanwhile, thanks to millions of Americans who refuse to get vaccinated or wear masks, the death toll from the pandemic is now back over 2,000 a day, with predictions of a bad winter, as people spend more time together spreading germs indoors.

Biden has laid it all on the line with the pandemic, but as of Monday, only 63% of adults have been partially vaccinated. That's the lowest rate among G-7 nations, according to data analysts at England's Oxford University. Biden has begged, beseeched, blamed the unvaccinated for their refusal to cooperate, and yet here we are.

"It's hell to be president," Harry Truman once said.

If Joe Biden didn't quite understand this before, he surely does now. He surely understands as well that time is running out.

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Just Jim NC TttH
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1  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH    5 years ago

Surprised? Many MANY of the citizens of the US are NOT.

 
 
 
squiggy
Junior Silent
1.2  squiggy  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1    5 years ago

As they say in France, "What the fuck"?

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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3  Hal A. Lujah    5 years ago

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Just Jim NC TttH
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3.1  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @3    5 years ago

As many as it takes. You do remember the last five years of bullshit hit pieces posted over and over with the hopes they will then come true daily about 45 don't you? Turnabout in ineptness is fair play. Don't like it? Don't read 'em. I was told that I only posted on certain articles to whine. Not the case but the subject of those articles are old news even thought some like to keep them in the limelight for some stupid assed pipe dream and reason. Don't be the epitome of that.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1    5 years ago

No one posted bullshit hit pieces on Trump. He earned every one of them. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.1.2  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.1    5 years ago

Your opinion.........and usually your hit pieces. Members were made well aware of every slip up and I am obliged to do the same with the current PotUS.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.2    5 years ago

Donald Trump was the most unfit for office president in US history. Joe Biden is not that.

But its a free country and NT allows endless nonsense from the right so have at it. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.1.5  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.4    5 years ago

As they did with the left. Sucks to have the tables turned eh?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.6  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.1    5 years ago
No one posted bullshit hit pieces on Trump.

Dude you led the charge in this realm.  He's not even in office and you're still posting them.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.7  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1.6    5 years ago

I dont pay attention to conspiracy theorists and deluded Trumpsters. They have been a plague on this nation over the past 6 years. 

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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3.1.9  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1    5 years ago

As many as it takes.

So I was correct.  As many as it takes for your wishes to come true.  Did you try clicking your heels together three times yet?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.1.10  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @3.1.9    5 years ago

You aren't real good at comprehension are you. Rhetorical. 

My wishes are not what you think. I'm not stupid enough to think that if I post negatives day in and day out as others have in the past, that I am going to change any minds. They just need to be brought to the attention of some people who would otherwise skip right over them with their fingers in their ears and eyes closed. But it won't change any minds nor affect the fact that a feckless puppet was elected. They got what they deserved.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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3.1.11  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.10    5 years ago

I'm not stupid enough to think that if I post negatives day in and day out as others have in the past, that I am going to change any minds. They just need to be brought to the attention of some people who would otherwise skip right over them with their fingers in their ears and eyes closed.

No, you don’t need to bring any of this garbage to anyone’s attention, particularly when you openly admit that it won’t change anyone’s mind.  I feel like we’re back on NV where members got paid tiny pittances for posting volumes of articles that nobody gives a fuck about.  Maybe you just need a hobby.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.12  JohnRussell  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @3.1.11    5 years ago

The issue is not whether "the same thing" shows up every day. The issue is whether what shows up every day has validity. 

Every one of the 3 or 4 people who seed the most here from the "right" believes in and occasionally promotes conspiracy theories. They all repeat completely discredited information they see on far right and so called "conservative"  media.  In other words they are gaslighting and bamboozling.  I am sure this has hurt NT over the years. 

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.1.13  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.4    5 years ago
Donald Trump was the most unfit for office president in US history

Blah  blah  blah    over and over again

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.1.14  bugsy  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @3.1.11    5 years ago
No, you don’t need to bring any of this garbage to anyone’s attention, particularly when you openly admit that it won’t change anyone’s mind.

I wonder why you never posted this to JR over the past 5 years...

Wait...no I don't

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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3.1.15  Raven Wing   replied to  Hal A. Lujah @3.1.11    5 years ago
I feel like we’re back on NV

Same here. And I left NV when they sank to the level senseless right wing garbage. Then all the primary contributors of that crap came to NT when NV shut down, and now it looks like NT is headed to the same outcome as NV.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.16  JohnRussell  replied to  Kathleen @3.1.8    5 years ago

Kathleen , Trump puts himself in the news 3 or 4 times a week. He is running for president again, right now.  He sees himself as the king of the Republican Party, as do most people. 

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devangelical
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3.1.19  devangelical  replied to  Kathleen @3.1.18    5 years ago
I am going to voice my opinion because I have the right to

me too.   [ DELETED ]

 
 
 
GregTx
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3.1.21  GregTx  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.20    5 years ago

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Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.23  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.7    5 years ago

There's enough of them running through your "inner circle" of those afflicted with TDS.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.1.24  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Raven Wing @3.1.15    5 years ago

WTF makes you or any of the others commenting such things think this or any other site is strictly for those of you with like minds?

That comment and thought pattern is arrogant and narcissistic to the maximum level.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.25  Vic Eldred  replied to  Raven Wing @3.1.15    5 years ago
And I left NV when they sank to the level senseless right wing garbage.

When was that?

When was NV EVER right wing?

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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3.1.26  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.17    5 years ago

No, he won't. Trump burned too many of his bridges behind him. But that does not mean this country cannot do better than both Trump and Biden in 2024.

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.1.28  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.25    5 years ago

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Trout Giggles
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3.1.29  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @3.1.28    5 years ago

[Deleted]

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @3    5 years ago

Newstalkers is entering a lull in quality. It just happens to coincide with anti-Biden hysteria. 

 
 
 
Ronin2
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3.2.1  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2    5 years ago

It is a refreshing break from the constant TDS driven bullshit being posted here multiple times a day.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.2.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ronin2 @3.2.1    5 years ago

By the very same people over and over again.

 
 
 
GregTx
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3.2.6  GregTx  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2    5 years ago

A lull? That's rich, thanks for the laugh.

 
 
 
goose is back
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3.2.7  goose is back  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2    5 years ago
It just happens to coincide with anti-Biden hysteria.

Wait...Wait...Wait...I have to admit Biden is much better then Trump, at taking no questions and running off stage. 

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.2.8  bugsy  replied to  goose is back @3.2.7    5 years ago

But hey...

No mean tweets

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.2.10  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2    5 years ago

LMAO!!!!!!!

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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3.2.11  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.2.3    5 years ago

In my opinion, it seems as if some hard core liberal Democrats had their way, they would be the only people allowed on NT because they are absolutely convinced that only they are correct and any that do not share their views, i.e. conservatives, are wrong and should not be allowed. Very sad.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.2.12  JohnRussell  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.2.4    5 years ago

Well some might say that you blubbering and blabbering nonsense on here 24/7 represents a lull in quality,  so there is that. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.2.13  JohnRussell  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.2.4    5 years ago

By the way, I asked you if Thomas Jefferson was a racist, yes or no.   I dont believe you answered me. 

Do you need some Jefferson quotes to refresh your memory? I will help you out. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.2.14  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @3.2.11    5 years ago

And this is the group who push for "inclusion".  I guess that inclusion is only for those within their POV.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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3.2.15  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.2.14    5 years ago

Yep, pretty much.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.2.18  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @3.2.11    5 years ago

Have you taken a recent look at the hard right on NT?

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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3.2.22  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.2.18    5 years ago

I have taken a look at both the hard right and the hard left and I find neither very appealing at all.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.2.23  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @3.2.22    5 years ago

Neither do I

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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3.2.26  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Tessylo @3.2.25    5 years ago

Prove it.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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3.2.28  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Kathleen @3.2.27    5 years ago

Of that I have no doubt.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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4  Nerm_L    5 years ago

2022 won't be a wave election.  Joe Biden is suffering from a number of self inflicted botch ups so won't provide any coattails down ballot.  Even Biden's pivot to Asia that he needed to gloss over Afghanistan has pissed off the French; just another botched up job.  The Senate can't schedule a vote unless Kamala Harris is in town.  Pelosi can't get House Democrats in line.  And Republicans should do well in retaking the House on redistricting alone.  

Democrats have pinned their hopes on running against Trump but a sizeable portion of the electorate is tired of hearing about Trump.  Pelosi is trying to goad Trump into mucking things up but the news media really isn't paying attention.  The danger is that Democrats will be perceived as pursuing petty, vindictive, and pointless politics because they think voters are stupid.

Republicans are threatened by their own voter base.  Trump's America First politics really did resonate with the base so Republican backsliders won't be treated kindly.  Republicans may feel the need to mellow the rhetoric but they better not forget that Republicans won the 2020 election in spite of Trump's loss.  And that Trump base won't view Republicans retaking Congress as a win if Republicans abandon America First politics.  

Incumbents in 2022 will be tiptoeing through a mine field hoping nothing blows up their faces.

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
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5  Colour Me Free    5 years ago
Meantime, as the president takes flak from Republicans over that, his other big initiative — an infrastructure bill, which which has passed the Senate — is being held hostage in the House by far-left Democrats like New York’s Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who say they won’t vote to fix roads, bridges and all the rest until the social spending plan is passed first.

This is sad .. the extremes of both parties are running the show ...!

I am gobsmacked by the partisan ignorance .. if 'our' elected officials do not figure out what the dreaded word compromise means, democracy will die .. sadly for many of you it cannot be blamed on Trump or even Republicans ..!                                           An infrastructure bill has passed - this is a very important bill for this nation  .... something that should be celebrated, yet it is being held up by an extreme subset of the party of (D) ...  

SAD!

Peace.... 

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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6  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom    5 years ago

there's little reason for Republicans to cooperate with the president on much

I can think of 332,655,522 reasons for both sides to get with it.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @6    5 years ago

Sister, the Republicans have no intention of "getting with it". 

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
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6.2  Colour Me Free  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @6    5 years ago

Agreed ... yet it seems neither side of the aisle thinks of those 332,655,522 reasons until elections roll around..

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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7  Sean Treacy    5 years ago

Gallup has his approval down to 43%, as it craters with independents.

Is there anything he's actually succeeded at?   It's so bad, his fans praise him because he can read a speech and only make some mistakes. You know, like an average high school sophomore. 

A couple more months like this, and he's going to retire to "spend time with his family."

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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7.1  Raven Wing   replied to  Sean Treacy @7    5 years ago

Total BS. Is that all you got? Really? How sad.

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
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7.1.3  Colour Me Free  replied to  Raven Wing @7.1    5 years ago
Total BS. Is that all you got? Really? How sad.

Think a lil research on the subject will show that Biden's approval ratings have dropped by double digits...  I was hoping for more from Biden as well, but there is no reason to bury ones head in the sand and pretend the Biden administration is successful

True.

FACT CHECK BY NEWSWEEK

The 10 percentage point drop highlighted by Hilton coincided with figures from NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist polling.

Biden's approval rating among independents in the latest results was at 36 percent, having been at 46 percent in comparable polling carried out around a month earlier.

This drop coincides with a general drop in his approval rating.

Fact Check: Did Joe Biden's Approval Rating Among Independents Suffer Double-Figure Drop? (newsweek.com)
 
 
 
bugsy
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8  bugsy    5 years ago

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squiggy
Junior Silent
9  squiggy    5 years ago

my-popularity-is-increasing.jpg

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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10  sandy-2021492    5 years ago

Thread @3.1 locked due to meta.

 
 
 
Revillug
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12  Revillug    5 years ago

Don't blame Biden for being in the weak position the rest of his party managed to hand him.

How on earth did the Dems manage to lose House seats, get only a dubious 50/48 tie in the Senate, and win the White House by mere thousands of votes in the rust belt swing states during a mismanaged pandemic? They did it the way they always under-perform: by being insufferable and maybe even a bit scary for the median voter.

The people voting against Democrats aren't doing it because they don't understand what the Democrats want to do for them economically. They are voting against Democrats because they understand what the Democrats want to do to them socially.

But what makes this all so hard for the Democrats to understand is how inaccurate the polling industry has become, with a liberal bias to the results that convinces Democrats they are selling the best ideas and the only reason they are in a corner is because of GOP dirty tricks.

There's a lot of truth in that but it's not an adequate explanation.

 
 

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