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Now There are Whispers in D.C. That Biden is About to Issue Vaccine Passport Mandate for Interstate Travel

  
Via:  XXJefferson51  •  4 years ago  •  80 comments

By:   Kyle Becker

Now There are Whispers in D.C. That Biden is About to Issue Vaccine Passport Mandate for Interstate Travel
The great majority of Americans who got Covid didn’t even know they had it. Therefore, it is highly questionable that they need vaccines, particularly if they can produce antibodies. Furthermore, at least four times that U.S. government officials lied to the American people that there would not be federal vaccine mandates because they are unethical or otherwise not the role of government. The Biden administration’s federal vaccine mandates are thus clearly unconstitutional, ineffective, and...

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This is both a dire threat to our freedom and the imposition of dystopian government mandates and policies that are unconstitutional.  They will also in addition to affecting our God given rights under the Declaration of Independence and constitution will damage or destroy our economy. Our supply chains are badly stretched and unless we end all restrictions very soon, a great collapse could well happen.  


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Now There are Whispers in D.C. That Biden is About to Issue Vaccine Passport Mandate for Interstate Travel



by Kyle Becker about 7 hours ago


The Biden administration is poised to make its next unconstitutional power grab in the former of a ‘vaccine mandate’ for interstate travel within the United States, according to reports on Capitol Hill.

Congressional Republican lawmakers are attempting to get ahead of the forthcoming expected decree by introducing legislation to block an executive order or directive.

“In a Wednesday speech on the Senate floor, Sen. Rick Scott (R-Fla.), joined by Sens. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) and Mike Lee (R-Utah), introduced legislation that would bar the Biden administration from implementing vaccine passports requirements for interstate travel,” the Epoch Times reported .

The Prevent Unconstitutional Vaccine Mandates for Interstate Commerce Act, would “prohibit several federal agencies involved in interstate commerce and travel from requiring proof of vaccination: The Department of Transportation, which oversees the Federal Aviation Administration, the National Railroad Passenger Corporation (Amtrak), the Surface Transportation Board, the Transportation Security Administration, the National Transportation Safety Board, the Federal Maritime Commission, and the Department of Commerce,” according to the report.

“The federal government has no business imposing vaccine mandates on our people and our hardworking businesses,” Sen. Rick Scott remarked.

“The Supreme Court has already ruled that you cannot be forced to purchase insurance under the commerce clause. Why would president Biden think he could do so with a vaccine mandate?” he asked.

“Travel is critical to getting our economy fully reopened. America’s truckers, shippers, pilots, and delivery men and women play an important role in delivering the goods needed to keep our economy going,” he continued.

“Americans are sick and tired of the government telling them what to do. And the American people are more than capable of making the right decision to protect them, their family, and their neighbors,” he added.

There have been numerous signs in recent weeks that the Biden administration is poised to issue a vaccine mandate for interstate travel, even though it would be blatantly constitutional.


Dr. Anthony Fauci, chief of the NIAID, is typically the messenger that the administration sends out to prime the public for forthcoming extreme measures. Fauci recently supported a vaccine mandate for interstate travel.

“I would support that. If you want to get on a plane and travel, then you should be vaccinated,” Fauci said in an interview on the Skimm This podcast in mid-September.

“Fauci later clarified to say that the Biden administration is not extending its vaccine mandate to travel just yet, although it is under consideration,” NPR noted .

Dr. Zeke Emanuel, who infamously earned the nickname “Dr. Death” for his support of death panels in Obamacare, unsurprisingly also supports the draconian practice.

“To overcome covid-19, at least 80 percent of Americans need to be vaccinated,” Emanuel co-wrote in a Washington Post editorial with Cornell professor John P. Moore. We are now at 54 percent. Voluntary efforts have proved to be insufficient. It is inevitable we will need another mandate — this time for domestic travel by planes, trains and buses.”

Former President Obama’s Transportation Secretary also threw his backing behind the authoritarian mandates.

“The man who ran former President Barack Obama’s Department of Transportation thinks President Joe Biden is going too soft on airlines and airline travelers as part of the government’s efforts to get the pandemic under control,” Politico reported .

“Former Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood says the White House should push airlines to put a vaccine mandate on airline travelers in place,” the report continued. “If the airlines refuse, LaHood said, the White House should do it itself. What’s more, he contends it wouldn’t be a heavy lift operationally.”

“I don’t think it would be difficult at all. It’s no different than showing your driver’s license to TSA,” LaHood said in an interview. “I don’t see it as a bureaucratic challenge to the airlines. I really don’t. You got to show ID in order to get through TSA, then make it a part of getting through TSA — that you can’t get through TSA unless you show proper identification, your ticket and a vaccination card.”

However, such burdens on interstate travel clearly violate the U.S. Constitution’s “freedom of travel,” which has been widely recognized in the nation’s federal courts.

“In Kent v. Dulles , 357 U.S. 116 (1958), the United States Secretary of State had refused to issue a passport to an American citizen based on the suspicion that the plaintiff was going abroad to promote communism (personal restrictions/national security),” Wikipedia summarized . “Although the Court did not reach the question of constitutionality in this case, the Court, in an opinion by Justice William O. Douglas, held that the federal government may not restrict the right to travel without due process”:

The right to travel is a part of the ‘liberty’ of which the citizen cannot be deprived without due process of law under the Fifth Amendment. If that “liberty” is to be regulated, it must be pursuant to the law-making functions of the Congress. . . . . Freedom of movement across frontiers in either direction, and inside frontiers as well, was a part of our heritage. Travel abroad, like travel within the country, . . . may be as close to the heart of the individual as the choice of what he eats, or wears, or reads. Freedom of movement is basic in our scheme of values.

The Legal Information Institute also provides background on the “freedom of travel.”

The doctrine of the “right to travel” actually encompasses three separate rights, of which two have been notable for the uncertainty of their textual support. The first is the right of a citizen to move freely between states, a right venerable for its longevity, but still lacking a clear doctrinal basis. The second, expressly addressed by the first sentence of Article IV, provides a citizen of one state who is temporarily visiting another state the “Privileges and Immunities” of a citizen of the latter state. The third is the right of a new arrival to a state, who establishes citizenship in that state, to enjoy the same rights and benefits as other state citizens. This right is most often invoked in challenges to durational residency requirements, which require that persons reside in a state for a specified period of time before taking advantage of the benefits of that state’s citizenship.

Furthermore, vaccine passports would be an unnecessary and onerous burden that would fall disproportionately on minorities and underprivileged. The World Health Organizations has advised against ‘vaccine passports’:

“We have long been advising against using covid vaccination passports for international travel due to non-equitable availability and need for robust evidence for prevention of virus transmission post-vaccination. We have issued the latest interim guidance to all member states,” WHO chief scientist Dr. Soumya Swaminathan told Mint .

The United States, similarly, has disparities in demographical subpopulations’ willingness to take vaccines. As KFF recently noted in a report :

The CDC reports demographic characteristics, including race/ethnicity, of people receiving COVID-19 vaccinations at the national level. As of September 21, 2021, CDC reported that race/ethnicity was known for 59% of people who had received at least one dose of the vaccine. Among this group, nearly two thirds were White (60%), 10% were Black, 17% were Hispanic, 6% were Asian, 1% were American Indian or Alaska Native, and <1% were Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander, while 5% reported multiple or other race.

The demographic breakdown can be vizualized in the chart below:

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According to Becker’s Hospital Review , 12 states have banned vaccine mandates: Arizona, Arksansas, Georgia, Florida, Indiana, Montana, New Hampshire, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas and Utah.

The Biden administration, nonetheless, has begun implementing travel barriers to those coming from abroad and for Americans on domestic flights that come increasingly close to ‘vaccine mandates.’ These new restrictions were noted in a September 21 article in the National Law Review:

The Biden administration will start requiring all adult travelers to provide proof of vaccination against COVID-19 and provide proof of a negative COVID-19 test taken within three days of boarding their flight to the United States. This change in policy is scheduled to go into effect in November 2021.

With respect to unvaccinated American citizens, foreign national children who cannot be vaccinated, or individuals who obtain an exemption to the vaccination requirement, they will be required to provide proof of a negative test within one day of departure and provide proof they have purchased a viral test to be taken after arrival. Limited exemptions to the vaccination requirement will be granted to children, vaccine trial participation, and those who can demonstrate an important reason for travel and lack of access to vaccination in a timely manner (e.g., refugees from conflict zones). Furthermore, the CDC will issue a contact tracing order requiring airlines to collect certain contact data for all international air travelers, and the administration confirmed the mask mandate will continue through Jan. 18, 2022.

Critically, Covid vaccines have themselves become a major driver of the Delta variant.

“[S]tate-level data shows that milder breakthrough cases that do not result in hospitalization are on the rise among the fully vaccinated as virus transmission increases and vaccine efficacy decreases,” Roll Call noted in mid-September. “And they’re expected to keep increasing.”

Nonetheless, the great majority of those ‘at risk’ are fully vaccinated or will be within the next few weeks. The New York Times points out: 75% of Americans 12 and up will soon be ‘fully vaccinated,’ and 94% of 65 and up will be soon be ‘full vaccinated.’ 77% of all Covid-related deaths are in the age group of 65 and up.

Then there is the issue of natural immunity, which the Biden administration refuses to acknowledge, but nevertheless possesses scientific evidence to support.

“This study demonstrated that natural immunity confers longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization caused by the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2, compared to the BNT162b2 two-dose vaccine-induced immunity,” an Israeli study’s conclusions read.

The CDC’s own figures estimate that at least 120 million Americans had been infected with Covid-19 by the end of May, thus possessing superior natural immunity. That figure can be projected to be at least 150 million currently, due to the Delta variant wave and the estimate that there are four cases for every one reported.

Thus, even as the survival rate for Covid-19 stands at 99.7%, the case fatality rate is likely to be much lower than is reported: It is approximately 0.5%. The great majority of Americans who got Covid didn’t even know they had it. Therefore, it is highly questionable that they need vaccines, particularly if they can produce antibodies.

Furthermore, at least four times that U.S. government officials lied to the American people that there would not be federal vaccine mandates because they are unethical or otherwise not the role of government.

The Biden administration’s federal vaccine mandates are thus clearly unconstitutional, ineffective, and disruptive to Americans’ way of life. This is either an oversight among presumably intelligent people or entirely the point.


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XXJefferson51
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1  seeder  XXJefferson51    4 years ago

Cutting off travel of unvaccinated will greatly aggravate this problem: 

Groups warn of supply chain system collapse, as California ports face record backlogs

Pandemic-related delays, work disincentives from enhanced unemployment benefits, and surging consumer demand are among the factors contributing to severe cargo ship congestion.

The International Chamber of Shipping, a coalition of truck drivers, seafarers, and airline workers, recently warned heads of state at the United Nations General Assembly that if restrictive COVID policies don't change and freedom of movement isn't restored to transportation workers, a supply-chain collapse is imminent. 

Industry leaders representing some 65 million transport workers asked the United Nations and heads of government to "take meaningful and swift action to resolve the crisis now." 

"Global supply chains are beginning to buckle as two years' worth of strain on transport workers take their toll," they wrote in an open  letter signed by the International Air Transport Association, the International Road Transport Union  and the International Transport Workers' Federation. 

"All transport sectors are also seeing a shortage of workers, and expect more to leave as a result of the poor treatment millions have faced during the pandemic, putting the supply chain under greater threat," they argue in the letter released Wednesday.

On the West Coast, as of Sept. 30, the Marine Exchange of Southern California said , the situation was "essentially status quo at elevated levels ... 30 vessels are in drift areas, 145 total vessels of all types were in port."

Earlier this week 62 ships were waiting out at sea to get to ports. In August, 76 container ships were in port, 46 were at anchor, and 29 at berth, the Marine Exchange reported. In July, the number anchored off the coast was 33.

The "normal number of container ships at anchor is between zero and one," the Marine Exchange said in July.

California ports have experienced a variety of challenges over the last year. 

"Over the course of the past year, tourism, travel and hospitality services such as cruises, hotels restaurants, tourist attractions, and conventions stalled and then ground to a halt," the California Association of Port Authorities says. As a result, some of California's ports have faced over 50% declines in revenue compared to the previous year. 

Despite major losses, the state's seaports had not received state or federal relief until this year, the association notes. Through California's allocation of federal funding from the American Rescue Plan, the public ports received $250 million. 

But the ports had to grapple with a range of problems prior to receiving federal aid. Laid-off California workers in this industry, as in others, earned more money on unemployment than working, as a result of California's extended participation in the federal government's enhanced unemployment benefits program. Hiring new employees proved challenging. 

Another complication stemmed from a lack of commercial truck drivers. Fewer commercial truck drivers meant less options for 20- and 40- foot steel boxes of cargo to be picked up and delivered. With the state shutdown last year, many senior truck drivers retired, and classes through which younger drivers would normally get their licenses were postponed due to COVID restrictions. 

Another problem stemmed from the state and port COVID-related safety measures that slowed the handling of each ship coming into port….

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XXJefferson51
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1.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1    4 years ago
Joe Biden’s Vaccine Mandate: Must Resist Dictatorial Powers
 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2  Vic Eldred    4 years ago

I don't know how much the federal government can do.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    4 years ago

It’s all about executive orders and what the Supreme Court will allow. It will mostly affect air travel, Amtrak trains, and greyhound buses.  It could affect truckers and cargo rail personnel and thus commerce as well.  Post #1 would be compounded by this.  At least the GOP has legislation pending to prevent a travel mandate and also to prevent the the OSHA employer mandate. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    4 years ago

Well, Republicans in congress are doing their part to limit federal power over our rights, freedom, and liberty.  

…Congressional Republicans are pulling out all the stops to block President Biden’s forthcoming directive that OSHA implement regulations that would force employers to issue vaccine mandates or face heavy fines.

According to text of the bill, named the No Taxation Without Congressional Consent Act, “no fine, fee, or taxation shall be imposed on any person for violating a COVID–19 vaccine mandate issued by the Occupational Safety and Health Administration or any other executive agency.”

“Your decision about whether or not to get a COVID vaccine should be yours and yours alone — not Joe Biden’s or a bunch of federal bureaucrats you’ve never heard of,” Roy said in a statement to Fox News. “The president’s proposed mandate is both unconstitutional and flat-out tyrannical. No freedom-loving American should comply. This country needs, and her people deserve, healthcare freedom. That means taking control over our care back from politicians and bureaucrats. I am proud to introduce this legislation with my good friend Senator Mike Lee to gut the federal government’s ability to enforce this unconstitutional mandate.”

“Unvaccinated Americans aren’t the enemy,” Lee said in a statement to Fox News. “We should not be forcing employers to fire some of their valuable, and now hard to find, workers. We shouldn’t be threatening business owners with closure who do not wish to police their workforce’s decisions. Many simply cannot incur the cost of this enforcement in this economy.”

“Earlier this month, Biden announced that businesses with 100 or more employees would be forced to require coronavirus vaccinations or test employees weekly,” Fox News reported .

“The bill, introduced by Roy in the House and brought up for unanimous consent by Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah, in the Senate, defines terms and features a provision that insists the bill should not be construed as to allow for federal COVID-19 vaccine mandates,” the report continued. “The legislation, should it pass, would essentially eliminate OSHA’s ability to enforce vaccine mandates on employers and individuals, including government employees.”

Dozens of states stand poised to file federal lawsuits the moment the OSHA regulation is actually issued. Arizona’s Attorney General has formally filed a lawsuit over the Biden administration’s federal vaccine mandate.

In his legal brief, Brnovich points out that Biden is “not a king” and the vaccine mandate is “one of the greatest infringements upon individual liberties, principles of federalism, and separation of powers ever attempted by an American President.”

More than half of the governors or state attorney generals have come out in opposition to President Biden’s announcement that he was issuing federal vaccine mandates. Despite earlier promises to the contrary, the Biden administration intends to issue the most sweeping federal mandates in U.S. history…

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XXJefferson51
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2.2.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.2    4 years ago

It’s time to wage all out unyielding opposition and resistance to the executive branch executive order using OSHA as a federal mandate .  It is clearly unconstitutional under the commerce clause and separation of powers on two different levels, executive vs legislative and federal vs state and local.  

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.3  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    4 years ago

Doesn't matter.

First, it's the airlines, secondly it's the destination country.  They are all demanding the CDC card or a phone app proving vaccination.

To come back from Europe, one must take a COVID test before getting on the plane, boat etc.

We are just trying to catch up.

Don't want to play? There's always Mexico.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.3.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @2.3    4 years ago
We are just trying to catch up.

We should be leading the way!  We waited too long.


Don't want to play? There's always Mexico.

Speaking of Mexico, why arent we demanding proof of vaccination from migrants?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.3.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Split Personality @2.3    4 years ago

The issue here as well as the seeded article is travel from one state to another, not international trips.  This would apply to air, train, bus travel.  It could also apply to UPS and Fed Ex planes, freight railroads, and truckers as well. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.3.3  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.3.1    4 years ago

There was a proposal in congress to require  illegal immigrants coming across the border be tested and vaccinated and democrats voted it down.  They did though mandate that all Border Patrol agents be vaccinated in order to keep their jobs.  

 
 
 
bugsy
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2.3.4  bugsy  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.3.1    4 years ago
Speaking of Mexico, why arent we demanding proof of vaccination from migrants?

Uh oh....here comes one of those "pregnant pauses" I've been hearing about.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.3.5  Split Personality  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.3.2    4 years ago

The point was that the airlines are already doing it and enforcing mask mandates.

Also there this gem from the article.

There have been numerous signs in recent weeks that the Biden administration is poised to issue a vaccine mandate for interstate travel, even though it would be blatantly constitutional.

Public health rules were established by SCOTUS on 5 different occasions.

The liberty of many overrides the liberties of one person.

It could also apply to UPS and Fed Ex planes, freight railroads, and truckers as well.

I'd say what happens in the cabin of a Fedex or UPS plane, stays in that cabin or railroad engineer.

Most truckers drive alone so what is the point?

Maybe we will boost the economy by building vaccine checkpoints at every street and highway that crosses a state border?

Do I really need a /S ?

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.3.6  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.3.1    4 years ago
Speaking of Mexico, why arent we demanding proof of vaccination from migrants?

Were we last year?  Is it legal? I don't really care.

Approximately 41% of all Mexicans are fully vaccinated, but most of those people are not planning on leaving Mexico.

If any migrants have vax ID they don't get tested, the vast majority are tested by different groups at different times reporting to Texas, CDC and HHS.

Back in March the positivity rate for all migrants was 6% when TX was 7%.

Currently Texas has spiked to 12% while Florida dropped to 9%

12 million Texans are unvaccinated still, same as Florida.

But these are all snap shots that change daily.

Perhaps as my recent seed suggested,

they should bring back INS to man the current immigration centers and vaccinate all of them regardless of whether they

are sent back by Title 42 or processed by Title 8 whether they green card them or deport them later.

DHS/HHS/CDC/FBI/DEA/CBP should be consistent in their public health responsibilities.

That would free up thousands of our CBP paramilitary units to interdict smugglers and terrorists instead of

doing asylum interviews pushing paper and migrants around the border.

I would not be opposed to just jabbing every single apprehension with J&J as the toll for crossing the river.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.3.7  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Split Personality @2.3.5    4 years ago
Public health rules were established by SCOTUS on 5 different occasions. The liberty of many overrides the liberties of one person.

The Supreme Court allowed states that power, not the federal government.  

Maybe we will boost the economy by building vaccine checkpoints at every street and highway that crosses a state border?

so far they haven’t talked about individual automobile travel.  So, people denied a ticket at a bus or train station or airport will have to go by car or not at all.  

 
 
 
GregTx
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2.3.8  GregTx  replied to  Split Personality @2.3.5    4 years ago

Would be a Constitutional clusterfuck, wouldn't it?

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.3.9  Split Personality  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.3.7    4 years ago
The Supreme Court allowed states that power, not the federal government.  

And every Federal law is based on similar state laws and precedent.

There is no question about this precedent or the national emergency.

By tomorrow we will be over 700,000 deaths specifically attributed to Covid and nothing else.

Due to the myriad policies of different jurisdictions, untold numbers of Covid related death certificates

are recorded as natural, suicide, pneumonia, organ failure etc. deliberately obfuscating the numbers of certain states.

Possibly by the end of October, another 35 to 50 thousand will die.

Doing nothing ensures that the deaths keep coming.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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2.3.10  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Split Personality @2.3.9    4 years ago
By tomorrow we will be over 700,000 deaths specifically attributed to Covid and nothing else.

Wow.  I had no idea the death count was that high.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.3.11  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @2.3.10    4 years ago

With three months to go Biden well could lose as many in 2021 as we’re lost in 2020 and Biden had a vaccine from day one. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.3.12  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Split Personality @2.3.5    4 years ago

Cargo trains and planes almost always have a crew larger than one.  Truck drivers encounter people at load pick up and delivery and fuel stops.  Soon we will all have a pill to take and this will be over.  

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.3.13  Split Personality  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.3.11    4 years ago

a vaccine from day one that 35% of the country won't take

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.3.14  Split Personality  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.3.12    4 years ago

Isn't that what I implied?

pilot and co-pilot in a typical cargo plane, no more than that.

Trains, maybe one in the engine, maybe one in a push engine. Most of them are automated now.

Soon we will have a pill...

What makes you think the morons who wont take the jab will swallow a pill

that's only 50% effective?

Because they already trust fish cleaner hydroxyclorine and imervectin?

That' swell !

/s

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.3.15  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Split Personality @2.3.13    4 years ago

And the irony is that had Trump won the election the roles of many here would have flipped regarding the vaccine, taking it vs hesitancy.  

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.3.16  TᵢG  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.3.15    4 years ago
... had Trump won the election ...

So you have changed your position and realize that Biden did indeed win the election?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.3.17  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Split Personality @2.3.14    4 years ago

If they will take Regeneron they will take the pills. Simplistically speaking the pill is to Covid what Tamiflu is to other viral illnesses.  The Merck pill is the return to normal the democrats want to forever with hold from us.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.3.18  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  TᵢG @2.3.16    4 years ago

No

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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2.3.19  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  TᵢG @2.3.16    4 years ago

Trump actually admitted it in an interview with Hannity.  Prosecuting attorneys have the best ammo ever for finally taking him down.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.3.20  TᵢG  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @2.3.19    4 years ago

Well XX (as you can see) admitted it and immediately retracted it.     This nonsense is so over-the-top ridiculous, one wonders how anyone would willingly put forth comments that make them look utterly foolish.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.3.21  Split Personality  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.3.17    4 years ago

Simplistic would be the key word.

Once we start calling it the Biden pill, none of you people will touch it

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.3.22  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Split Personality @2.3.21    4 years ago

GOP governors will get it to replace the Regeneron Biden is with holding from them.  We want a return to pre pandemic normal and this pill is the ticket which is why the regime will likely try to with hold approval of it.  The research into this Pill began during Trumps term. The Merck pill will make vaccines obsolete.  The Dow was up almost 500 points yesterday while Moderna lost 10% of its value in the same day as the Merck announcement.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.3.23  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Split Personality @2.3.14    4 years ago

An experimental COVID-19 treatment pill called molnupiravir being developed by Merck & Co Inc and Ridgeback Biotherapeutics LP, is seen in this undated handout photo released by Merck & Co Inc and obtained by Reuters May 17, 2021. Merck & Co Inc/Handout via REUTERS

"Antiviral treatments that can be taken at home to keep people with COVID-19 out of the hospital are critically needed,” Wendy Holman, Ridgeback's CEO, said in a statement.

'A HUGE ADVANCE'

Scientists welcomed the potential new treatment to help prevent serious illness from the virus, which has killed almost 5 million people around the world, 700,000 in the United States.

“A safe, affordable, and effective oral antiviral would be a huge advance in the fight against COVID," said Peter Horby, a professor of emerging infectious diseases at the University of Oxford.

The study enrolled patients with laboratory-confirmed mild-to-moderate COVID-19, who had symptoms for no more than five days. All patients had at least one risk factor associated with poor disease outcome, such as obesity or older age.

Drugs in the same class as molnupiravir have been linked to birth defects in animal studies. Merck has said similar studies of molnupiravir – for longer and at higher doses than used in humans – indicate that the drug does not affect mammalian DNA.

Merck said viral sequencing done so far shows molnupiravir is effective against all variants of the coronavirus including the highly transmissible Delta..

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.3.24  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  TᵢG @2.3.16    4 years ago

Biden was installed into the office.  Trump was not allowed to win.  

 
 
 
JBB
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2.3.25  JBB  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.3.24    4 years ago

No, Biden whooped Trump badly at the polls...

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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2.3.26  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  TᵢG @2.3.16    4 years ago
So you have changed your position and realize that Biden did indeed win the election?

*double nostril beverage expulsion* 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.3.27  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  JBB @2.3.25    4 years ago

That never happened.  A change of about 40,000 votes in three heavily democrat manipulated states would have made Trump re elected.  

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.3.28  TᵢG  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.3.24    4 years ago
Trump was not allowed to win.  

Correct, the electorate did not allow him to win.   The electorate allowed Biden to win by voting for him so that he would secure the majority of electoral votes.

That is how our process works.  

A PotUS wins because of the votes of the electorate, not because the narcissistic, lying sack of shit uses his influence as the sitting PotUS to merely claim a win.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.3.29  Split Personality  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.3.22    4 years ago

STOP IT !

Show us the cases of any hospital who has been denied Regeneron or Lilly products

or stop spreading the rumors.

Of the 2.4 million doses distributed by the US Government only 1.1 million doses have been used.

Several states have admitted stockpiling.

Florida admits ordering more than it needs by 30% per month. (per your own seed )

Seven Southern States account for 70% of all monoclonal cocktail orders from HHS,

only Florida has above average vaccination rates.

The same Shasta County HHS office that holds and distributes the vaccine

holds and distributes Regeneron & Lilly products as requested.

Vaccines vary by efficacy

Moderna 90%

Pfizer dropped to 77% without the booster

J&J  has always been at 71%

Antibody treatments, Regeneron particularly, can reduce hospitalization by 70%

for those already showing symptoms.

The best Merck pills can hope for is 50% which is the absolute minimum required for FDA consideration for

emergency use.

SURE THING, PRAISE THE LORD and PASS THE IMERVECTIN

Embrace the least effective treatment, Merck, maybe 50% effective

instead of Moderna, the most effective vaccine and still the cheapest.

btw

The stock market is rigged, a legal way to gamble and should not

in any way shape or form be used to make medical decisions

by intelligent people.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
Professor Participates
2.3.30  Raven Wing   replied to  Split Personality @2.3.29    4 years ago
by intelligent people.

Right there is the cause of most of the lies and misinformation being passed off as truth.

It is the unintelligent people who believe the lies and misinformation and in turn pass around the lies and misinformation to the other ignorant people.

And there are always those who will take advantage of those lacking any reasonable intelligence to fill their craving for attention.

And we see some of both here on NT.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
PhD Quiet
2.3.31  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Raven Wing @2.3.30    4 years ago
And there are always those who will take advantage of those lacking any reasonable intelligence to fill their craving for attention.

along with their pockets

 
 
 
Raven Wing
Professor Participates
2.3.32  Raven Wing   replied to  igknorantzrulz @2.3.31    4 years ago
along with their pockets

You got that right. All in the name of 'God'. That is always their way of justifying their bilking the irrational and ignorant.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
Professor Quiet
2.3.33  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  TᵢG @2.3.20    4 years ago

Force of habit?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.3.34  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Split Personality @2.3.29    4 years ago

I never said make a medical decision based o. The stock market. The stock market is the only way other than precious metals and real estate to grow wealth and the working and middle class don’t have lots of real estate or precious metals.  60% of the adult population is invested in the stock market.  I’m trimming my sails in the stock market slowly this year.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.3.35  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Split Personality @2.3.29    4 years ago

The Merck pill is for the already infected.  It must be given within a few days to be of use.  It is to covid what Tamiflu is to regular viral flu.  Those it works on won’t need Regeneron or the substitute De Santis imported, thus reducing the demand for them.  That’s a good thing

 
 
 
Gsquared
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2.3.36  Gsquared  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.3.34    4 years ago

The best way to grow wealth is by hard work through gainful employment.  Real estate can be a wealth multiplier, but not always.  My home has increased in value by a multiplier of at least four or five times since we purchased it many years ago, but values can fluctuate greatly as we well know.  The stock market can contribute to the growth of wealth, and it can crash.  You cannot time the market.  At my age and situation, I have no exposure to the equities market and have not for a long time.  I would never, and have never, invested in "precious metals".

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.3.37  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Gsquared @2.3.36    4 years ago

Work is great! I’m all for it.  There’s still a need to put money beyond immediate needs somewhere.  Bank savings money markets and  CD’s pay next to nothing.  Real estate outside of ones own home is not easily come by for many.  Unless REIT’s are used. Anyone can afford silver.  Retirement accounts, health savings accounts , and child education IRA’s are the way most are in the stock market.  

 
 
 
Gsquared
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2.3.38  Gsquared  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.3.37    4 years ago

Apparently you are unfamiliar with fixed income securities such as corporate, treasury and municipal bonds.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.3.39  Split Personality  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.3.35    4 years ago
Opinion: Merck's Covid-19 pill is great news but may not be a game-changer (msn.com)

Of those 775 participants, all had at least one co-morbid condition placing them at higher risk for progression to severe disease; 385 received the active drug and saw their rate of hospitalization or death reduce from the 14.1% seen in the placebo group to 7.3%, according to the study . Furthermore, the company reported that the new drug had fewer reported side effects than placebo.

All good for sure. But more information is needed: for example, The Washington Post reported that the trial only included the unvaccinated. This makes some sense in that the study commenced in October of last year , well before vaccines became available and was intended to be conducted in 173 locations, including some where vaccine rollout was delayed well past than seen in the United States.

But it also means that the benefit in those with normal immune systems who develop a vaccine-breakthrough infection is uncertain. We also don't have information yet on teens and younger children, a population that could possibly benefit greatly, given the lack of authorized vaccines for 11-year-old and younger kids and low-ish vaccination rates in US teens .

Of course, we don't have all of the answers from one smallish clinical trial. But before we declare this yet another game-changer or the Holy Grail , it is important to pause and consider the direction things may be going.

With the molnupiravir news, other antivirals in the mature pipeline and less mature pipeline likely will become the new hot thing , a darling of investors and other professional optimists.

That is also great. Pills could add even more oomph to the pandemic control efforts already begun by our remarkable vaccines. But let's all remember one additional fact: as much as some people don't like vaccines, many really don't like pills that much either. And when the pill is given twice a day -- even in short courses as proposed for molnupiravir (twice daily for five days) -- adherence is lower than that for a once-daily pill.

Plus, there are all the other problems with pills: cost, side effects, drug resistance, use in pregnancy

and, most of all, practicality. Antiviral agents work best when given at first symptoms of disease. Symptoms of early Covid-19 resemble those of countless other viral respiratory infections, such as flu and common colds: sniffles, cough, an upset stomach, a little fever. Nothing specific. A rapid cheap diagnostic test could clarify the decision, but adds time, cost and a different set of uncertainties regarding test accuracy.

Yet the biggest problem with hoping for too much out of oral Covid-19 medications is this: vaccinated persons already have much lower rates of hospitalization and death and are less contagious for a shorter period compared to unvaccinated, infected persons. Yes, hospitalizations and deaths still tragically occur but breakthrough infection is not perpetuating the pandemic. A pill will help them a little for sure, but is hardly a game-changer.

So, no peer review, maybe 90 days to rushed emergency use approval and must take pill twice a day 

(for how long ?)

Currently about 1,400 people a day, mostly the un vaccinated in 6 southern states, are dying.

That's another 100,000 republican voters. It's a good thing the GOP doesn't care.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.3.40  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Split Personality @2.3.39    4 years ago

It’s no different than an anti biotic 2/day for five days.  Not that hard.  Also the cases in the south have declined greatly lately as we knew they would.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.3.41  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Gsquared @2.3.38    4 years ago

No I’m not. I have those as part of my mix.  They are still in Exchange Traded Funds that trade on the stock market

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.3.42  Split Personality  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.3.40    4 years ago

Just another tool in the armory for the un-vaccinated masses, eh?

Find any links to prove that antibody monoclonal doses are being withheld from any state or hospital yet?

512

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.3.43  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Split Personality @2.3.42    4 years ago

Some are acting as if the Merck pill isn’t a benefit to the people in our effort to fight the pandemic.  It is.  As to vaccination, it works for vaccinated with breakthrough cases too.  The vaccinated people resorting to force and coercion are not helping to get people to choose to vsccinate.  It’s slowing the effort as they dig in and double down on hesitation or refusal in response.  The number of people being vaccinated per week had been going up until mandates from Biden came up, and then it dropped in response.  

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.3.44  TᵢG  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.3.43    4 years ago
The number of people being vaccinated per week had been going up until mandates from Biden came up, and then it dropped in response.  

Just goes to show the emotional, irrational thought process of this group of people.   (Speaking of the group as a whole.   Some individuals have good reasons to not be vaccinated.)

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
2.3.45  Split Personality  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.3.43    4 years ago

It's not a benefit to anyone until its approved.

Got It?

And then it remains to be seen if the retarded anti vaxers will take it.

Got it ?

PLEASE STOP MAKING SHIT UP !

As to vaccination, it works for vaccinated with breakthrough cases too.

No vaccinated people were  tested yet for this pill, per your own link.

#$@#$%^%$@&*()(*(^%$#!!!!

I don't think you deserve any more comity or civility than that.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
2.3.46  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Split Personality @2.3.45    4 years ago

You think it won’t be approved?  Maybe progressives will treat it like hydrochloroquiene and ivermectin so that they can continue to try to dictate to others that they do what they want.  On the other hand this pill is the ultimate solution to managing the pandemic.  

The unvaccinated who can do take Regeneron.  Why wouldn’t they take an RX that’s like taking an antibiotic?  It’s use would be universal.  And in future years it will be to covid what Tamiflu is to ordinary viral flu’s.  

Cutting off of this pill will only deepen the resolve of those not yet vaccinated to never do so.  Many would rather take a slight extra odds of death rather than be told what to do by the secular progressive elite left here.  

The vaccine didn’t exist when those tests were done.  A breakthrough case is still an infection. People who got the flu shot and still get it still can use Tamiflu.  The pill contains an infection it doesn’t prevent one.  

as to civility and comity you will get back whatever you dish out so that’s up to you.  You though are a Moderator so it’s on you to act like a civilized human being and role model in your dealings here in order to try to establish some kind of credibility.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
2.3.47  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  TᵢG @2.3.44    4 years ago

Most people do not like being told what to do.  Nothing irrational or emotional about that. The emotional stability of some vaccinated people who act like as if the power they derive from the power to force others to do their will feeds their self importance should be seriously questioned.  I think it funny the emotional breakdowns of some vaccinated at the ones who are not to the extent they would celebrate the denial of service to them should be questioned. As for the ones triggered by the non vaccinated, it’s entertaining to watch even though i’m vaccinated.  

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.3.48  TᵢG  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.3.47    4 years ago
Nothing irrational or emotional about that.

Putting your health at risk just to defy authority is irrational and emotional.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
2.3.49  Split Personality  replied to  TᵢG @2.3.48    4 years ago

Lots of words and emotions, no meat.

No Surprises.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.3.50  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  TᵢG @2.3.48    4 years ago

I didn’t put my Heath at risk.  I’m vaccinated.  I have no real fear of getting covid.  I’m not afraid of the unvaccinated. I still try to persuade them though all the coercion promoters and control freaks out there make it harder to do so.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.3.51  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Split Personality @2.3.49    4 years ago

The liberal way!  

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.3.52  TᵢG  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.3.50    4 years ago

I know you are vaccinated.   I was not referring to you but rather to those who you were describing.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.3.53  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  TᵢG @2.3.52    4 years ago

I have relatives on both sides.  The last thing I’m ever going to do is use the power of the state to compel the reluctant ones to do what I couldn’t persuade them to do. That’s not my style of doing things. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.3.54  TᵢG  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.3.53    4 years ago

If one of them dies from coronavirus, would you wash your hands and move on?   Would you look back and even consider that maybe irrational stubbornness is not worth one's life?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
2.3.55  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  TᵢG @2.3.54    4 years ago

And if I turned them in and somehow got government to compel them to my will against theirs, what kind of relationship would that be, if any at all?  

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.3.56  TᵢG  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.3.55    4 years ago

What is the relationship if they are dead?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3  Vic Eldred    4 years ago

This Just in:

Two service members filed a potential class action lawsuit against Defense Secretary  Lloyd Austin  to attempt to block him from requiring all troops receive a COVID-19 vaccine.  

Army Staff Sgt. Dan Robert and Marine Corps Staff Sgt. Hollie Mulvihill, who filed the complaint Aug. 17 in the U.S. District Court of Colorado, also want the Pentagon to create a vaccine exemption for those previously infected with the coronavirus as they already have “natural immunity.”

The two, who are both based in North Carolina, argue that the Defense Department’s vaccine mandate “is in open violation” of the rights of service members and is unconstitutional.

 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
3.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Vic Eldred @3    4 years ago

The ignoring of natural immunity and making those who have already had the disease get the vaccine is an asinine power and control trip.  

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
3.1.1  Split Personality  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1    4 years ago
The two, who are both based in North Carolina, argue that the Defense Department’s vaccine mandate “is in open violation” of the rights of service members and is unconstitutional.

There is no proven permanent natural immunity to flus or COVID.

Hence flu shots every year and we are already seeing studies from all points indicating the need for boosters for Pfizer & Moderna.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Split Personality @3.1.1    4 years ago

No proven permanent vaccine immunity either.  

 
 
 
Raven Wing
Professor Participates
3.1.3  Raven Wing   replied to  Split Personality @3.1.1    4 years ago
indicating the need for boosters for Pfizer & Moderna.

I got my Pfizer booster Thursday last week, and no one had to force me to get it, or threaten me in any way. I did it of my own free will, just like I did with the first two vaccinations.

My life is my own, and I do all I can to protect it and make intelligent choices in doing so. I don't feel the desire to listen to anyone else when making my own choices regarding my life and my health, especially, those who are nothing but a fruit and nut basket with wayyy too many peanuts.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
3.1.4  Ender  replied to  Raven Wing @3.1.3    4 years ago

I got the Moderna one. They don't have a booster.

I actually asked my doctor about it and he was all for it.

Would recommend it.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
Professor Participates
3.1.5  Raven Wing   replied to  Ender @3.1.4    4 years ago

The Moderna vaccine is very good. The booster vaccine just has not been approved yet, but, as soon as it is available it's a great idea to get it. The Pfizer booster vaccine was ready to go when the booster shots were highly recommended by the CDC. So it was the first to be approved. But, the Moderna is not that far behind it and should be approved before long.

I only had some moderate pain in the area where I got the shot, and it only lasted for a few hours. I had no other side effects. Being able to get the booster shot at a Pharmacy at most drug stores is as real help. Sure beats what I had to go through with the first two doses in January and March of this year.

Like you I would recommend it, especially, for seniors. But, I made the choice to get the booster, and I respect that everyone else has the right to make their own choice.

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
3.2  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @3    4 years ago

2 out of 1.4million ... so far I'm not impressed. I'm even less impressed that you left out some of the more informative parts:

"The Pentagon has also made clear it would only require a COVID-19 vaccine that had full FDA approval, which the Pfizer shot received on Aug. 23.

But Robert and Mulvihill, who filed their complaint days prior to the FDA decision, base their argument on the Pfizer vaccine’s previous emergency-use authorization standing."

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
3.3  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @3    4 years ago
Two service members filed a potential class action lawsuit against Defense Secretary  Lloyd Austin  to attempt to block him from requiring all troops receive a COVID-19 vaccine.  

Good luck.. When I was in the service I can tell you vaccines were not optional. When you sign on the dotted line and swear the oath, you know this. 

 
 
 
Raven Wing
Professor Participates
3.3.1  Raven Wing   replied to  MrFrost @3.3    4 years ago
When you sign on the dotted line and swear the oath, you know this. 

And you know that as of the minute you sign on the dotted line and swear the oath that your life no longer belongs to you, but, to the US government. It seems that today there are some who tend to forget that fact.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
3.4  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @3    4 years ago

Good luck with that. 

I would be fine with an antibody test IF and WHEN it is proven that immunity is permanent.

Til then, everybody needs the vaccine and boosters.

There is no permanent immunity to the flu, flu shots are effective for about a year and COVID is looking to be about the same.

The two, who are both based in North Carolina, argue that the Defense Department’s vaccine mandate “is in open violation” of the rights of service members and is unconstitutional.

They are delusional.  They are government property and will obey orders or be separated at the pleasure of their CO. 

There is no discussing the rights of service members, it is an oxymoron.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
Professor Participates
3.4.1  Raven Wing   replied to  Split Personality @3.4    4 years ago
There is no discussing the rights of service members, it is an oxymoron.

It's very easy to know those who have never served

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
4  seeder  XXJefferson51    4 years ago

And then there’s this game changer: 

Merck pill seen as 'huge advance,' raises hope of preventing COVID-19 deaths

October 1, 2021 1:11 PM PDT Last Updated 3 hours ago

Oct 1 (Reuters) - An experimental antiviral pill developed by Merck & Co (MRK.N) could halve the chances of dying or being hospitalized for those most at risk of contracting severe COVID-19, according to data that experts hailed as a potential breakthrough in how the virus is treated.

If it gets authorization, molnupiravir, which is designed to introduce errors into the genetic code of the virus, would be the first oral antiviral medication for COVID-19.

Merck and partner Ridgeback Biotherapeutics said they plan to seek U.S. emergency use authorization for the pill as soon as possible and to make regulatory applications worldwide.

"An oral antiviral that can impact hospitalization risk to such a degree would be game changing," said Amesh Adalja, senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security.

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Current treatment options include Gilead Sciences Inc's (GILD.O) infused antiviral remdesivir and generic steroid dexamethasone, both of which are generally only given once a patient has already been hospitalized.

"This is going to change the dialogue around how to manage COVID-19," Merck Chief Executive Robert Davis told Reuters.

Existing treatments are "cumbersome and logistically challenging to administer. A simple oral pill would be the opposite of that," Adalja added.

The results from the Phase III trial, which sent Merck shares up more than 9%, were so strong that the study is being stopped early at the recommendation of outside monitors.

Shares of Atea Pharmaceuticals Inc (AVIR.O) , which is developing a similar COVID-19 treatment, were up more than 21% on the news.

Shares of COVID-19 vaccine makers Moderna Inc (MRNA.O) were off more than 10%, while Pfizer (PFE.N) was down less than 1%.

Jefferies analyst Michael Yee said investors believe "people will be less afraid of COVID and less inclined to get vaccines if there is a simple pill that can treat COVID."

Pfizer and Swiss drugmaker Roche Holding AG (ROG.S) are also racing to develop an easy-to-administer antiviral pill for COVID-19. For now, only antibody cocktails that have to be given intravenously are approved for non-hospitalized patients.

White House COVID-19 response coordinator Jeff Zients said on Friday that molnupiravir is "a potential additional tool... to protect people from the worst outcomes of COVID," but added that vaccination "remains far and away, our best tool against COVID-19."

A planned interim analysis of 775 patients in Merck's study looked at hospitalizations or deaths among people at risk for severe disease. It found that 7.3% of those given molnupiravir twice a day for five days were hospitalized and none had died by 29 days after treatment. That compared with a hospitalization rate of 14.1% for placebo patients. There were also eight deaths in the placebo group.

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An experimental COVID-19 treatment pill called molnupiravir being developed by Merck & Co Inc and Ridgeback Biotherapeutics LP, is seen in this undated handout photo released by Merck & Co Inc and obtained by Reuters May 17, 2021. Merck & Co Inc/Handout via REUTERS

"Antiviral treatments that can be taken at home to keep people with COVID-19 out of the hospital are critically needed,” Wendy Holman, Ridgeback's CEO, said in a statement.

'A HUGE ADVANCE'

Scientists welcomed the potential new treatment to help prevent serious illness from the virus, which has killed almost 5 million people around the world, 700,000 in the United States.

“A safe, affordable, and effective oral antiviral would be a huge advance in the fight against COVID," said Peter Horby, a professor of emerging infectious diseases at the University of Oxford.

The study enrolled patients with laboratory-confirmed mild-to-moderate COVID-19, who had symptoms for no more than five days. All patients had at least one risk factor associated with poor disease outcome, such as obesity or older age.

Drugs in the same class as molnupiravir have been linked to birth defects in animal studies. Merck has said similar studies of molnupiravir – for longer and at higher doses than used in humans – indicate that the drug does not affect mammalian DNA.

Merck said viral sequencing done so far shows molnupiravir is effective against all variants of the coronavirus including the highly transmissible Delta, which has driven the recent worldwide surge in hospitalizations and deaths….

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Paula Bartholomew
Professor Quiet
5  Paula Bartholomew    4 years ago

Right now, we are beating this here (CA).  We don't need any more unvaccinated idiots coming here for their vacations.  If we have to put checkpoints at every road from other states, then we will.  Let them go to FL where they will be welcomed with open arms as Deathsantis loves putting his citizens at risk.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @5    4 years ago

Florida’s cases are dropping rapidly as are many other southern states.  Cases in the Midwest north and northeast are starting to go up.  California’s and Florida’s cases, hospitalizations and fatalities per capita are very similar.  At what cost did Ca achieve this parity with a state with far more seniors per capita?  Lockdowns, crushed freedom, trampled rights, economic disaster?  it truly wasn’t worth it.  Which is why the rural valley and foothill counties and communities largely defied the regime here.  

 
 

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