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There is a limit to how far you can push Americans

  
Via:  XXJefferson51  •  5 years ago  •  178 comments

By:   Tucker Carlson

There is a limit to how far you can push Americans
And yet others are taking a stand purely on principle. They believe that in a free country, politicians should never be allowed to force citizens to submit to medical treatment they don't want. These are Americans who grew up in a country where that fact was taken for granted, everybody assumed it, and they want to preserve that country for their children. That's their motive. But whatever their various reasons, the unvaccinated employees of Southwest Airlines, the many of them, are decent,...

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Let’s go Brandon is going into more Orwellian double speak and dystopian actions by the day.  Biden and the blue parts of America are turning on and vilifying other Americans and they are making a stand of their own. Tucker yet again absolutely nailed it with what he said here.  


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There is a limit to how far you can push Americans


The actions of Southwest Airlines' pilots show there will be backlash to Biden's vaccine mandates



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Joe Biden showed up at a construction site in Illinois last Thursday to explain what a terrific job he's been doing. Biden's poll numbers, you may have noticed, have declined recently, not just by a little bit, but by such a dramatic margin that some prominent Democrats are openly worried about it. The midterms are in a year. 







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So the point of last week's appearance outside Chicago was to remind all of us in the country that our perceptions of Biden's performance are silly and baseless. Actually, Joe Biden is a great president. He's totally aware of what's happening. He's completely on top of things. He knows exactly what he's doing and he's got your well-being at heart. Not the narrow economic interests of some soulless multinational corporation that hates America and your family. No, you! Because Joe Biden is awesome. 

TEXAS GOV. GREG ABBOTT BANS ‘ANY ENTITY’ FROM ENFORCING A COVID-19 MANDATE

And to prove it. Biden talked at length about the COVID vaccine. His greatest achievement, he said. Now, strangely, Biden didn't say a lot about the vaccine itself. He did note that if you get the shot, you could not spread COVID to other people. And if there were doctors in the audience, they might have been confused because that is ridiculously and provably untrue. Of course, the vaccinated can spread COVID, and they do. 

But Biden didn't pause and dwell on the science such as it is. Instead, Biden spent virtually his entire speech attacking any American who hasn't yet gotten the shot. Now you've heard him say that a lot, but it's worth taking a closer look at what Joe Biden said last week outside Chicago. Go, look it up for yourself. It's on the C-SPAN website. 


As you watch it, ask yourself, has any president in our history ever talked about millions of American citizens like this? This is the way presidents talk about foreign enemies or dictators talk about enemies in their midst. It's not the way American presidents talk, or ever have. Ever, for any reason, under any circumstances. We can't think of a single example, even during the Civil War. 

And yet, according to Joe Biden , unvaccinated Americans are the root of this country's problems. They're destroying our economy. They are killing our people. The unvaccinated, Biden said, are solely responsible for the outbreak of the Delta variant of COVID, the outbreak that has left tens of thousands of Americans dead. 

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Biden noted this to the morbidly obese governor of Illinois, J.B. Pritzker , who nodded from behind his mask as if all of this was settled science. And then Joe Biden kept going. The unvaccinated are dangerous, he announced. They are diseased. They're dirty. They are unpatriotic. They are selfish. They are pathogens in human form. They have caused this deadly virus to "spread to our children, to spread throughout society." 

They suffer because of their absurdity and their self-inflicted suffering burdens the rest of us. They "overcrowd our hospitals" like a plague of swarming, gasping insects, they "overrun our emergency rooms and intensive care units." Americans. And as they lie, they're ventilated, dying, reaping the rewards of their own sin, these miscreants "leave no room for someone with a heart attack or in need of a cancer operation." 

These people get no sympathy because they're barely people. The unvaccinated Biden told us. Die their much-deserved deaths, but even as they die, they burdened the rest of us. That's how horrible they are. They're subhuman they’re wreckers of a nation. 


We're not overstating any of this, by the way. Go watch Biden's speech, it's online. The question is: once you've identified a diseased fifth column like this within the country that you run, What do you do with them? Biden got to that toward the end of his speech. 

JOE BIDEN:  These requirements work, and as the Business Roundtable, others told me when I announced the first requirement that encourage businesses to feel they could come in and demand the same thing of their employees. More people are getting vaccinated, more lives are being saved. Let's be clear: when you see headlines and reports of mass firings and hundreds of people losing their jobs, look at the bigger story. … Over the past week we've seen American, Southwest, Alaska, JetBlue Airlines all announce requirements. 

Yeah, there have been mass firings, the president said. But when you see reports of mass firings of law-abiding American citizens, Joe Biden told us, what you're really seeing is progress. You should celebrate. 

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Think about that. No American president has ever made a statement like that, cheering the firing of law-abiding Americans in the multitudes. But Joe Biden did. He didn't even pause. He says things like that regularly. Now that's fine if you're on Joe Biden's side, apparently. 

But what if Joe Biden was talking about you? What if he was talking about your livelihood, your career, the future of your family? How would you feel? We should consider that, because these are Americans he's talking about, and as we do consider that, think about what happened to air travel in America over the weekend. 


Southwest Airlines, you may have read this, one of our biggest carriers all but shut down on Saturday and Sunday, the airline canceled thousands of flights. It threw the nation's famously efficient system of air travel into total chaos. It's stranded countless travelers in airports. Again, you saw it on the news. 

The question is how did this happen? Well the official explanation came right away. It was bad weather on the eastern seaboard. There were thunderstorms. There were also unspecified issues with air traffic control and all of that together forced Southwest Airlines, alone among airlines, to cancel its flights. 

That's what the company Southwest Airlines claimed. They claim that in a statement to us today, a long statement. It's what many media outlets have repeated uncritically for the past two days. 

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And yet we can tell you it is untrue. All of that is a lie. It's not what happened. We've spoken to several people with direct knowledge of what actually did happen. We can tell you that the shutdown of Southwest Airlines over the weekend was a direct consequence - it was a reaction to - Joe Biden's vaccine mandates. 

It began last week when Gary Kelly who is a CEO of Southwest, sent an internal memo to his employees declaring that, per Joe Biden's directive, any Southwest employee who was not fully vaccinated by the 8th of December will be fired. Canned. Done, right before Christmas. 


Now, this would include not simply pilots on Southwest and flight attendants, of course, but ramp workers, mechanics, dispatchers, schedulers, ticket agents, people from the top to the very bottom. Many thousands of people. 

Now, some unknown but apparently large number of these people have still not been vaccinated. Why is that? Well, many of them have already recovered from COVID. They have antibodies that offer them greater protection than any vaccine ever could. That's the science. So they don't want the vaccine. 

Others have sincere religious objections. They object to the use of aborted fetal tissue in the development of pharmaceuticals. So they don't want it. They believe it violates their faith. Still, others have friends or co-workers or relatives who have suffered severe side effects from the vaccine, and therefore they are afraid to take it. That makes sense. Don't make fun of them. That's real. 

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And yet others are taking a stand purely on principle. They believe that in a free country, politicians should never be allowed to force citizens to submit to medical treatment they don't want. These are Americans who grew up in a country where that fact was taken for granted, everybody assumed it, and they want to preserve that country for their children. That's their motive. 

But whatever their various reasons, the unvaccinated employees of Southwest Airlines, the many of them, are decent, high functioning Americans, and they have watched as their own government has dismissed them out of hand as criminals for reasons that don't even make sense.


Consider the argument they're hearing from Joe Biden: You must get the shot for the sake of people who've already gotten the shot because the shots don't work well enough to protect the people who've already gotten them. That's what Joe Biden and the entire American health establishment is telling them. So imagine making that argument to an airline pilot, someone whose entire job is based on logic. It is utterly bewildering to them, because it doesn't make sense. It's just too unreasonable.

"I've flown military jets in three different war zones," one pilot told us this weekend. "I have never lost sleep like this. The stress is beyond belief. It's dangerous." People are melting.

So this weekend in protest, a large number of southwest pilots called out sick and they effectively shut down their airline. And many of them, you should know, admire the company they work for. They love Southwest Airlines, but they felt they had no choice but to do this. Nobody was standing up for them, not the United States Congress, which, by the way, has exempted itself from vaccine mandates, not even their labor union, which exists and is paid to defend them. But they're not. 

TAMMY BRUCE: BIDEN DIDN'T EXPECT THIS KIND OF BACKLASH TO VACCINE MANDATES

So in desperation, the pilots committed the most basic act of nonviolent civil disobedience, something we used to celebrate in this country. They stayed home. Now, at the same moment, they decided to do this, a large group of air traffic controllers apparently reached the very same conclusion. An estimated 6,000 federal air traffic controllers have not yet received the Biden mandated shot. That's nearly half of all air traffic controllers in this country. And they all, as federal employees, have until next month to submit or they will be fired. And when they are fired, our air traffic control system, which is already dangerously short-staffed, ask anyone who works in it, will stop. It will cease completely just in time for the holidays. 

Now, once again, the controllers union has been no help to them. And once again, the media have aligned with the Biden White House to vilify them, not as people who are being persecuted as a matter of conscience, but as criminals. So on Friday, apparently, they took action. The air traffic control headquarters in Jacksonville, Florida, known to all pilots as Jacksonville Center, shut down. This never happens. It didn't even happen when there was a fire in a Chicago air traffic control center. They managed to keep air traffic control going. 

But this weekend, Jacksonville Center shut down because there was simply no one to man it. There was no one there. The effects of this were profound, and they were immediate. Jacksonville Center controls the airspace in this country from Orlando to Raleigh, North Carolina, as well as far out over the Atlantic Ocean. That's some of the most crowded air routes in the world. 

Air traffic controllers in Atlanta watched as planes headed for South Florida, rerouted west, and wound up over the Mississippi River. That would be the world's longest detour. And for a moment, in the chaos, it became clear that Joe Biden is not the only person in this country who has power. It turns out there is a limit to how far you can push some Americans. 


So in that way, it might have been cast as an inspiring story - man against the machine. But the media had no interest in telling that story. In fact, some on the corporate left suggested the Southwest pilots had somehow committed what is known as an illegal job action. Illegally not showing up for work, as if politicians have a right to force Americans to labor against their will. 

Now, some of us had assumed that was a condition we would recognize as the textbook definition of slavery. But no, it's illegal not to work, they told us. And then at least one outlet describe what the pilots had done as "domestic terrorism." Get to work immediately wage earner or you're al Qaeda. 

There were more cancellations at Southwest Airlines today, no doubt there will be more to come and not just of airline flights. At least two Amtrak train routes in the Northeast were canceled over the weekend and, so was a regularly scheduled car ferry in Washington state out to the San Juan Islands. In all cases, the employees in question, who have been told to get the shot, did not show up. 

Were these also protests against the Biden shot mandates? We can't say for certain. It certainly wouldn't surprise us, because that's our future. Thousands and thousands of Americans, the best among us in many cases, will be stripped of their livelihoods, of their lives by the Biden White House's mandates.

 This is not a small thing. As of tonight, more than 50,000 U.S. Marines still have not received the shot, as well as a large percentage of the Navy SEAL teams. What will happen when these people are gone from the force? Who's going to protect this country? Who's going to protect our cities? 

In Seattle, to name just one example, the city is moving forward toward firing fully 40 percent of the entire police force over the Biden shot mandates. Good luck getting your emergency calls answered after that, and so on. 

Our hospitals, our schools, our national labs, scientists and researchers at Oak Ridge and Los Alamos, among others. All torn apart by a purge overseen by Susan Rice that has nothing whatsoever to do with public health and everything to do with the accumulation of political power. 

That is happening right now. Make no mistake, it will continue to happen unless good people work immediately to stop it. 

This article is adapted from Tucker Carlson's opening commentary on the October 11, 2021 edition of "Tucker Carlson Tonight."


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Jeremy Retired in NC
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3  Jeremy Retired in NC    5 years ago
Joe Biden showed up at a construction site in  Illinois  last Thursday to explain what a terrific job he's been doing

If you have to explain to people that you are doing a " terrific job", guess what asshat, YOU AREN'T DOING A TERRIFIC JOB.

As you watch it, ask yourself, has any president in our history ever talked about millions of American citizens like this? The unvaccinated are dangerous, he announced. They are diseased. They're dirty. They are unpatriotic. They are selfish. They are pathogens in human form. They have caused this deadly virus to "spread to our children, to spread throughout society." 

I've never seen any President talk about their people like this.  Dictators, yes.  Not Presidents.

 
 
 
CB
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3.1  CB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3    5 years ago

That's special. What times we live in, eh Jeremy?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3    5 years ago
If you have to explain to people that you are doing a " terrific job", guess what asshat, YOU AREN'T DOING A TERRIFIC JOB.

Actually hilarious. Can I please have a dollar for every time Trump said he was doing a "great" "fantastic" or "excellent" job ?  I would like a Hawaiian vacation. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.3.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @3.3    5 years ago
Can I please have a dollar for every time Trump said he was doing a "great" "fantastic" or "excellent" job ?

You got them in the form of Tax Breaks.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.3.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.3.1    5 years ago

This is actually funny.  They won't acknowledge that just like they won't acknowledge some other things that happened under the previous administration actually worked (i.e. tax breaks, immigration, etc.)

But if you ask them we're gaslighting and lying.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.3.5  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Tessylo @3.3.4    5 years ago

Lets see it.

 
 
 
CB
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3.3.6  CB  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.3.1    5 years ago

White privilege commentary at work ⇡.

 
 
 
CB
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3.3.7  CB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.3.3    5 years ago

Some conservatives are gaslighting and lying.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.3.8  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  CB @3.3.6    5 years ago
White privilege commentary at work ⇡.

When all else fails make it about race.  How pathetic.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.3.9  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  CB @3.3.7    5 years ago

Just as MOST progressives.

 
 
 
CB
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3.3.10  CB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.3.8    5 years ago

Some conservatives are ones to talk: Just look at Texas 'eating' Hispanic and Black American 'numbers' in the redistricting headlines:

Texas reduces Black and Hispanic majority congressional districts in proposed map, despite people of color fueling population growth

Texas lawmakers on Monday released their first draft of a new congressional map that would largely protect incumbents while reducing the number of districts in which Black and Hispanic residents make up the majority of eligible voters. The map reduces the number of districts dominated by people of color even though Texas gained two additional congressional seats and the population of Asian, Black and Hispanic Texans outpaced white Texans over the last decade.

Republicans constructed the map with incumbent protection in mind — a strategy that focused on bolstering vulnerable GOP seats rather than aggressively adding new seats that could flip from blue to red. However, the map does in fact strengthen Republican positioning overall in Texas, going from 22 to 25 districts that would have voted for Donald Trump in 2020. The number of congressional districts that voted for Joe Biden would have shrunk by one, from 14 to 13.

While many incumbents appear safe in these maps, others were drawn into districts that overlap with one another — for example, the proposed map pits Houston Republican Rep. Dan Crenshaw against Democrat Rep. Sylvia Garcia. It also pits two Houston Democrats — Reps. Al Green and Sheila Jackson Lee — against each other.

Democrats, who have been out of power for decades, have attempted to make state elections more competitive but the redrawing of congressional maps gives the GOP an opportunity to lock in their advantage for another decade.

The Texans who run the 'place,' just pulled the "black-Hispanic-card" right out from the deck and chunked it into the shitter!

And you want to come for my commentary, Jeremy?

What's pathetic is White some conservatives can't stand a challenge so as is typical they go for stacking the deck! So now we have a "double" red-state!

White authoritarian power grab; right there in front of your face! No need to look away: Just look straight ahead!

 
 
 
CB
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3.3.11  CB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.3.9    5 years ago

No liberal is gaslighting you generally, Jeremy. Stop the delusions; it's in some conservatives' power to fix. Fact is, more and more of this nation's citizenry don't want to be  lying, deceiving, self-deluded some conservatives. Most people want some conservatives to cease and desist their onslaught on their fellows.

 
 
 
CB
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3.3.14  CB  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.3.12    5 years ago

Of course, you would look for an excuse to why perfection is NOT what some conservatives are striving to be. Just run to the bottom and sat there and hold your breath! Jeremy launched the "we're so much better than thou" routine and of course I produced one of the many incidents to come where some conservatives are lying their way through to 'eat' up and consume what belongs to other citizens in this country. Gluttonous thangs!

 
 
 
CB
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3.3.15  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @3.3.13    5 years ago

Oh phooey. Now you want to talk about Southern democrats. Can the Civil War be far behind or are you okay with taking it off the table? Where are those southern democrats (of yesterday) today? Riiiiighhht. Voting republican for life!

Yes, elections have consequences: One of which is clearly some conservatives' integrity, decency, and sense of esprit de corps with fellow citizens of this country!

 
 
 
CB
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3.3.19  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @3.3.18    5 years ago

Yeah, well sorry. We want to make some conservatives relatively 'happy' but why should you be happy without us being happy too? Y'all are too damn selfish and greedy! Pass the human infrastructure bill. Joe Manchin is just one among two democrats sitting on his damn hands and elbows. Can't y'all spare several republicans to help "the people" or is Joe and Kristin part of a diabolical scheme hashed behind close doors and dark parlors to have republicans stand 10 feet off and they do the dirty work?

 
 
 
CB
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3.3.22  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @3.3.20    5 years ago

Yeah well let's just say you are well familiar with the swerve.  Good old Mitch is a swerver and Donald Trump has "swerver" engraved in his HEEL status from the WWE days.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.3.23  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  CB @3.3.10    5 years ago

I'll say it one more time - When all else fails make it about race.  How pathetic.

The comment you referred to had nothing to do with race.  But yet here we are YOU making it about race. 

The comment was about the 6 January protests.  But yet here we are YOU making it about race. 

You further that pathetic statement by bringing in a subject that wasn't even close to what the comment was about.  But yet here we are YOU making it about race. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.3.25  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  CB @3.3.14    5 years ago
Jeremy launched the "we're so much better than thou" routine and of course I produced one of the many incidents to come where some conservatives are lying their way through to 'eat' up and consume what belongs to other citizens in this country.

No Sparky.  You went off on a race related rant that had nothing to do with what was being discussed.  The least you could do is be honest.

 
 
 
CB
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3.3.26  CB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.3.23    5 years ago

Yeah, you would like to pigeon-hole this about January 6, protests which some "yahoos" try to lawyerly call a 'peace rally' when it was anything but. Additionally, you might even attempt to point out the scant people of color in the crowd as being "bi-racial" groupings. When we all know that having assenting faces in a population does not mean that race issues can not arise and be real.

Since you want to try it with me, give it your best shot. I say White privilege is in play. Y'all were given the "kid-glove" treatment when you entered the Capitol. Y'all were given the "kid' treatment when you pounded in the head of cops. Y'all were give the "kid" treatment when you picked up government property and walked it around in your palms and off the grounds of the Capitol. Y'all were given the "kid" treatment when you milled around the front of the capitol. Y'all were given the "kid" treatment when republicans and conservatives reverted and quenched their outrage over what happened to their 'home.'

This would not then and not now be your position had BLM or any large gathering of people of color had invaded the sanctum of the Capitol. People of color, especially the 'points of the spear' - Black Americans have been killed on the streets of America for far less than entering a government building.

So miss me with you bull patty. White privilege was utilized then and is being used now in your silence against an outrage. And if you really do think race was a factor here - then that you think I am foolish enough to buy in to your patronizing ignorance is pathetic.

 
 
 
CB
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3.3.27  CB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.3.25    5 years ago

I am honest. That you can't stand it is not my problem, "Sparky."

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.3.28  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  CB @3.3.27    5 years ago
Yeah, you would like to pigeon-hole this about January 6

That is the comment subject you commented to.  Even then you couldn't keep on track and feebly attempted to make it somehting its not.  Race.  

I say White privilege is in play.

And that is what is making you the racist f@ck that we see many times on the left.

Y'all were given the "kid' treatment when you pounded in the head of cops. Y'all were give the "kid" treatment when you picked up government property and walked it around in your palms and off the grounds of the Capitol. Y'all were given the "kid" treatment when you milled around the front of the capitol. Y'all were given the "kid" treatment when republicans and conservatives reverted and quenched their outrage over what happened to their 'home.'

What's this "Y'all" shit?  Are you claiming (naturally unfoundedly) that I was there?  

White privilege was utilized then and is being used now in your silence against an outrage.

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CB
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3.3.30  CB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.3.28    5 years ago
I say White privilege is in play. And that is what is making you the racist f@ck that we see many times on the left.

Oh so now I am a "f@ck"? Well, if so, I am a "f@ck" that is calling white privilege out on the republicans and conservatives who can't see insurrection on the American rule of law when its hanging and swinging deep between their legs.

 
 
 
CB
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3.3.31  CB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.3.28    5 years ago
What's this "Y'all" shit?  Are you claiming (naturally unfoundedly) that I was there?  

You plowed right into a discussion I was undertaking with Jefferson @3.3.1 so who knows? The perps on the ground that day can count on your support for their bull shit attacks and outrages, while lacking any display of sympathy and empathy for the law enforcement or congressional officials at risk. Atknown, the fact that the building was 'violated' that day and a work stoppage was caused.

Yes, "y'all" is appropriate. You might as well have been there: why the hell not?

 
 
 
CB
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3.3.32  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @3.3.29    5 years ago

And you could move on and see other people: So why are you still 'hanging out' and digressing? Apparently, you mistake me for some 'drug of choice.' I am not!

 
 
 
CB
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3.3.35  CB  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.3.33    5 years ago

Actually, It is—Jefferson. It's White privilege and you all are invoking it to get a usual pass from society as you screw liberals, secularists, and people of color in and out of context!

Let's talk about stuff made up out of whole cloth: Why do you think small rural 'America' is the only part of the nation worthy of taking stock? Being small in big fields just means y'all prefer to be insular and lacking in outside sophistication. For that, by the way, you need cities and metropolises. Oh, and large, international airports.

 
 
 
CB
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3.3.36  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @3.3.34    5 years ago

Less predator enabler and more Trump defender, please. Step up the game.

 
 
 
Veronica
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3.3.38  Veronica  replied to  CB @3.3.36    5 years ago

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CB
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3.3.40  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @3.3.39    5 years ago

Step up the game, Texan. You're doing retreads.

 
 
 
CB
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3.3.42  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @3.3.41    5 years ago

Donald Trump is out there suing 'the wind' for blowing generally. /s

Actually, the louse is suing to hide official documents from the people running the people's House in Congress. And you are out and about social media promoting 'turnabouts' in desperate attempts to lead people away from the Artful Liar and his "activities ." We see enablers right where you stand!

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3.3.44  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @3.3.43    5 years ago

original

 
 
 
Veronica
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3.3.46  Veronica  replied to  JBB @3.3.44    5 years ago

I love this.  So hilarious.

 
 
 
CB
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3.3.47  CB  replied to  Veronica @3.3.46    5 years ago

It cracks me up too! It reminds me of the great Rodney Dangerfield and Jackie G. days!

Rodney Dangerfield Has Jackie Gleason Bursting Out in Laughter (1970)

Glory Days!

 
 
 
Veronica
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3.3.48  Veronica  replied to  CB @3.3.47    5 years ago

I was too young to see this, but now I see how funny they all were.  

 
 
 
CB
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3.3.49  CB  replied to  Veronica @3.3.48    5 years ago

Woman, oh woman! Those guys were good! Classy and classic. Talent. Clean and honest mustaches back then.

 
 
 
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3.4  Gordy327  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3    5 years ago

He is correct! The unvaccinated are dangerous! They are selfish, inconsiderate, and stupid! They ate the reason the pandemic continues and new variants emerge! 

 
 
 
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3.5  Steve Ott  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3    5 years ago
I've never seen any President talk about their people like this.

So you were asleep the last four years?

 
 
 
Hallux
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4  Hallux    5 years ago

I suppose Joe could take a page out of Ronald's playbook:

On August 5, following the PATCO workers' refusal to return to work, the Reagan administration fired the 11,345 striking air traffic controllers who had ignored the order, and banned them from federal service for life. ... PATCO was decertified by the Federal Labor Relations Authority on October 22, 1981.

 
 
 
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5  JohnRussell    5 years ago

I was a little boy when the polio vaccine became available for every child. I can still remember my mother putting me and my brothers and sisters in line to get the shot. Us kids didnt even really know what polio was. But , even though there were some side effects to the vaccine for a small number of kids, parents all over the country were overjoyed that the government was offering this shot which would most likely remove the fear parents had of their children being crippled forever by polio. The vaccine was overwhelmingly accepted by the nations parents, and others. 

That was in the 1950's, before internet, cellphones, facebook, parler, and all the other social media that has led our population astray today. It was before conspiracy theories too. 

Now we have Q Anon, pizzagate, and insurrections at the nations capital. The ex president spread misinformation and fear about believing in medical authority, and since he has a cult following many fell in line. The mistrust and misinformation spilled over even into those who are not Trump cultists. 

Too many people today just want to go on their merry way and not accept that America is in real trouble. 

 
 
 
CB
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5.1  CB  replied to  JohnRussell @5    5 years ago

I grew up with a neighborhood kid suffering with polio. All his young life (eventually I moved away as a young adult), he was left crippled in his limbs. Vunerable in every way (I can't remember if he could speak properly or not). It is something I would not wish on my worst enemy to be trapped in a contorted, 'wasted' body. Yes, we took the polio shot and are alive today to talk about it working.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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5.2  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  JohnRussell @5    5 years ago

It seems like we are living through a ‘life imitates art’ moment, where the ‘art’ is an Adam Sandler movie.

 
 
 
CB
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6  CB    5 years ago

There is a limit to how far you can push Americans. The actions of Southwest Airlines' pilots show there will be backlash to Biden's vaccine mandates

The "lubbers" of freedom are at it again:

A journalist has revealed the bizarre response he received from known vaccine skeptic Tucker Carlson after he asked the Fox News host whether he had received the Covid vaccine.  Ben Smith from The New York Times revealed in his column that he texted Carlson: “Did you get vaccinated?”

And Carlson’s response is odd to say the least.

“When was the last time you had sex with your wife and in what position?” he replied. “We can trade intimate details.”

Well, what we do know is Fox News requires vaccinations for its employees or "regular" testings. I will assume an 'airhead' like Carlson won't like to have his "freedom" assaulted on a daily basis, so yes! Airhead Carlson is vaccinated twice and done!

So there you have it. It's all a big lie and 'Airhead' is helping to obstruct hearts and minds for his and "the Cause."

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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8  Buzz of the Orient    5 years ago

What I can't understand is that it is the Republicans/conservatives/rightwingers who are opposing vaccination and mask-wearing and other recommended methods to contain the virus when that attitude is leading to a high rate of deaths among themselves and their supporters - reducing their voting numbers.  It's sort of like shooting oneself in the foot. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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8.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @8    5 years ago
What I can't understand is that it is the Republicans/conservatives/rightwingers who are opposing vaccination and mask-wearing and other recommended methods to contain the virus

Up until Trump left office, democrats did the same thing.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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8.1.1  TᵢG  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @8.1    5 years ago
Up until Trump left office, democrats did the same thing.

Harris stated that she would not take the vaccine based on Trump telling her to do so but would take it if advised by medical professionals.    So, no, Harris was never opposed to the vaccine — she was opposed to Trump as the authority.

You are spinning reality.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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8.1.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  TᵢG @8.1.1    5 years ago
You are spinning reality.

Fuck!!!  I'm becoming one of YOU!?!?!?!

 
 
 
TᵢG
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8.1.4  TᵢG  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @8.1.2    5 years ago

Fact:  Harris objected to following the medical advice of Trump while stating she would take the vaccine on the advice of medical professionals.

You spin that fact and the best you have when caught is to utter a Pee Wee Herman:  'I know you are but what am I'.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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8.1.5  TᵢG  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @8.1.2    5 years ago
I'm becoming one of YOU!?!?!?!

Your comments, recently, do not correlate with objective, critical analysis.   They read as those of a partisan.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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8.1.6  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @8.1.3    5 years ago
hey, you know that there could absolutely be no correlation between what Harris said and people reluctant to get vaccinated!

Think, Texan.   Who would Harris influence if the allegation that she refused to take the vaccine were true?   She would influence Democrats.   The super-majority of Ds are vaccinated :

A Gallup survey released on Sept. 29 confirmed the KFF findings. As of mid-September, 75% of adult Americans have been vaccinated, including 73% of non-Hispanic white adults and 78% of non-whites. Along party lines, however, the breakdown was 92% of Democrats, 68% of Independents, and 56% of Republicans.

Who, then, do you think would influence Rs to not take the vaccine?

You support the spinning of Harris' words into something she never stated while ignoring the repeated downplaying of the virus by Trump.   Certainly you have observed Trump both encourage the taking of the vaccine and give people excuses to not take the vaccine.   Clearly you can see that it is Rs who are predominantly not taking the vaccine.

When it comes to consistent messages on taking the vaccine, the Biden administration has consistently stated to take it.   That cannot be said of the Trump administration.

 
 
 
bugsy
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8.1.7  bugsy  replied to  TᵢG @8.1.1    5 years ago

So you proved his point. Biden told Americans they HAVE to get vaccinated or lose their jobs.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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8.1.8  TᵢG  replied to  bugsy @8.1.7    5 years ago

How in your twisted logic do you see me proving his point??

Harris stated she would not take the vaccine on Trump's recommendation but that she would on the recommendation of qualified medical experts.   That is a fact. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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8.1.9  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  TᵢG @8.1.8    5 years ago

It's like kindergarten.  You have to repeat a logical statement 10 times before it sinks into such children.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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8.1.10  Gordy327  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @8.1.9    5 years ago
It's like kindergarten.  You have to repeat a logical statement 10 times before it sinks into such children.

For some people, it never sinks in!

 
 
 
Gordy327
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8.1.12  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @8.1.11    5 years ago

Who cares? jrSmiley_99_smiley_image.jpg

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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8.1.13  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Gordy327 @8.1.12    5 years ago

Not I.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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8.1.16  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  XXJefferson51 @8.1.14    5 years ago

I have no idea who Brandon is and I don't give a damn.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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8.1.17  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  XXJefferson51 @8.1.15    5 years ago

I suppose since it's your seed you can consider any kind of garbage propaganda on topic, so don't even think that I would waste my time opening your links, if I could.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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8.1.18  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @8.1.14    5 years ago

Nope, still don't care.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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8.1.21  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  XXJefferson51 @8.1.19    5 years ago

You may have freedom of speech, but no right to impose swearing at Biden as being a Jewish thing. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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8.1.22  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  XXJefferson51 @8.1.20    5 years ago

It makes no difference to me about what the Taiwanese people think or want, and I don't know of anyone here who is concerned about democracy and individual freedoms and liberty, because they have all the freedom and liberty they need and want, and that includes me.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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8.1.23  Sean Treacy  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @8.1.22    5 years ago

I don't know of anyone here who is concerned about democracy and individual freedoms and liberty, because they have all the freedom and liberty they need and want

Is that one of Xi’s thoughts you are forced to memorize?

You live in a country with concentration camps and just threw@ journalist in jail for criticizing a movie and you think no one is bothered by that? Not every person who thinks for themselves was machine gunned and had their remains power-washed into the Sewers  at tiananeman square you know.

one of the tragedies  of totalitarian regimes like nazi germany, the Eastern European communist block and China is the captives, or citizens as you prefer, had to constantly lie to friends and family to avoid punishment.  Everyone just constantly lied to each other about how great things were and how happy they were because they never knew who they could trust. A careless word to the wrong person and they were on a list.

so,  no, I guess it’s no surprise people in China don’t complain to a foreigner.

China, the land of perfect freedom:

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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8.1.24  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Sean Treacy @8.1.23    5 years ago

It's really amazing how much some people know ALL about China, its government and its people when they haven't spent one day in the country but are very talented at reiterating what they read or hear in the very media that they criticize for being biased and spreading misinformation and conspiracy theories.  Sure there are some things that people are unhappy about, but there are a lot of things that they are quite happy about, but that's not different from people all over the world.  My colleagues when I was teaching and my good friends and wife's relatives here would never have lied to me notwithstanding I'm a foreigner. Nothing ever stopped them from saying they would rather not say, and that would not get them into any trouble, but they didn't.  But I don't blame you for your comments because I believe they are just a sign of fear and jealousy.  As for your consistently bringing up history, from decades ago, I think that your nation has some things in its history that it's not proud of as well.   

 
 
 
TᵢG
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9  TᵢG    5 years ago

Tucker Carlson has become a lying sack of shit.   I no longer pay any attention to him.

For example:  this is what Biden actually said about the unvaccinated in the speech Carlson referenced :

The fact is, this has been a pandemic of the unvaccinated.  Unvaccinated.  The unvaccinated overcrowd our hospitals, overrunning emergency rooms and intensive care units.  The unvaccinated patients are — are leaving no room for someone with a heart attack or in need of a cancer operation and so much more because they can’t into the ICU.  They can’t get into the operating rooms.  The unvaccinated also put our economy at risk because people are reluctant to go out.  And think about this: Even in places where there is no restriction on going to restaurants and gyms and movie theaters, people are not going in anywhere near the numbers because they’re worried they’re going to get sick.

And this is what Carlson claims Biden stated:

Instead, Biden spent virtually his entire speech [ Lie, not even close ] attacking any American who hasn't yet gotten the shot.     Now you've heard him say that a lot, but it's worth taking a closer look at what Joe Biden said last week outside Chicago. Go, look it up for yourself. It's on the C-SPAN website. 

...

And yet, according to Joe Biden , unvaccinated Americans are the root of this country's problems. They're destroying our economy. They are killing our people. The unvaccinated, Biden said, are solely responsible for the outbreak of the Delta variant of COVID, the outbreak that has left tens of thousands of Americans dead.   [all exaggerations]

Biden noted this to the morbidly obese [ a gratuitous personal attack illustrating Carlson's tactic ]   governor of Illinois, J.B. Pritzker , who nodded from behind his mask as if all of this was settled science. And then Joe Biden kept going. The unvaccinated are dangerous, he announced. They are diseased. They're dirty. They are unpatriotic. They are selfish. They are pathogens in human form. They have caused this deadly virus to "spread to our children, to spread throughout society."  

They suffer because of their absurdity and their self-inflicted suffering burdens the rest of us. They "overcrowd our hospitals" like a plague of swarming, gasping insects, they "overrun our emergency rooms and intensive care units." Americans. And as they lie, they're ventilated, dying, reaping the rewards of their own sin , these miscreants "leave no room for someone with a heart attack or in need of a cancer operation." 

These people get no sympathy because they're barely people . The unvaccinated Biden told us. Die their much-deserved deaths, but even as they die, they burdened the rest of us. That's how horrible they are. They're subhuman they’re wreckers of a nation.  

We're not overstating any of this [ oh no, not even a slight exaggeration by Carlson ] , by the way. Go watch Biden's speech, it's online. The question is: once you've identified a diseased fifth column like this within the country that you run, What do you do with them? Biden got to that toward the end of his speech. 

Note what I highlighted in blue.   This, is what Carlson claims Biden stated.   A disgusting misrepresentation.   One would have to be a fool to believe Carlson.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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9.1  Gordy327  replied to  TᵢG @9    5 years ago

Yes, but remember who his target audience is. Fool is an understatement. 

 
 
 
CB
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9.2  CB  replied to  TᵢG @9    5 years ago

Carlson uses inflammatory words, sentences, and phrases to get a rise out of his audience. Then, we have Jefferson and other some conservatives try to gaslight us into trusting them to be fact curators.

 
 
 
CB
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9.2.2  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @9.2.1    5 years ago

And yet you are here. . . meddling and peddling fake therapy 'sessions'. . . .  If you are above it all, why are you 'slummin'? Obssessed with (gasp) CB?

 
 
 
TᵢG
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9.2.4  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @9.2.3    5 years ago
... why people who do nothing but complain about him watch him so religiously.......

You presume against reason that CB watches Carlson religiously.    If you are going to presume why not follow the most obvious path of logic and presume that CB cannot stand to watch Carlson more than sporadically?

Also one need not watch Carlson religiously to understand that he is a lying partisan sack of shit.   Hell, just look at my post @9 and you will see this in clear sight.   So imagine that CB has observed Carlson a dozen times or so and in each instance the same, basic, unabashed ugly exaggeration and lying takes place.   Is that not, in your mind, sufficient evidence to form an opinion?

 
 
 
CB
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9.2.5  CB  replied to  TᵢG @9.2.4    5 years ago

Carlson knows better and supposedly so does Texan: How else could he fail to mention any shortcoming/s of a republican or conservative in any post while demanding that a democrat, liberal, progressive, and secularist get torn a 'new one' - now how's that "action" for obsessive conduct?

For the record, I don't need to watch Tucker Carlson's propaganda show "faithfully" to mete out judgement on his lack of professional journalistic effect. For that I can watch segments, channel pop-in and out, and play Youtube videos of interests on Fox's subscription channel.

Brian Selter, CNN's "Reliable Sources," points out in his book, "HOAX"  PUBLISHER: Simon & Schuster  RELEASED:  Aug 25, 2020 how journalists hold to a professional code of ethics which calls for minimizing harm (to viewers and readers) and yet in the early days and continuing of SARS Coronavirus-2 spread Fox News heavily pays its franchise anchors to maximize roadblocks and obfuscating points of view about non-related topics of liberty and freedom while their unknown numbers of their own listening audience drops like stuck down flies: effectively maximizing harm.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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9.2.8  TᵢG  replied to  XXJefferson51 @9.2.7    5 years ago
Tucker Carlson is a beacon of light and truth who speaks truth to power.

Why make such utterly stupid claims?   Do you actually think that such ridiculous claims will influence anyone?

 
 
 
TᵢG
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9.2.10  TᵢG  replied to  XXJefferson51 @9.2.9    5 years ago

That is a faith-based perspective applied to a talking head on cable.   Pathetic.

 
 
 
CB
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9.2.11  CB  replied to  XXJefferson51 @9.2.6    5 years ago

Oh that old Australian knows this 'crowd' alright. And they know how to 'eat' and suck 'em dollars out of 'asses in cheap seats' too! Hey suckers! Here buy (yet another) book and swag!

America! What a country! Right?

'Rona don't give a small damn about your 'quest' or confusion about 'liberty' and 'freedom.' Just ask any of the sick, dying, and if you can - dead! You've been/being had! Neil Cavuto confesses to getting the 'jab' - and it is SO MUCH BETTER than shitty  rhetoric.

 
 
 
CB
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9.2.12  CB  replied to  XXJefferson51 @9.2.7    5 years ago

I bet you won't be seeding any commentary where big-shit talking Tucker tells the nation his vaccination status. Tucker is all NDA and close-mouth were it counts! Yeah, he is exercising his right and liberty to fleece some chumps with words that cost him nothing to deliver, but make him look good as gold. . . .and old that salary is 'sweeet'!  SUCKER-LOVE!

 
 
 
CB
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9.2.14  CB  replied to  XXJefferson51 @9.2.13    5 years ago

*Sputter." Tucker Carlson is full of it. And you know it in your heart. But sure play coy (and fiddle) while people suffer and die in the name of so-called liberty and freedom. It's all shits and giggles; politics and big payouts until one is red-faced from coughing up a 'lung' or both!

 
 
 
CB
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9.2.16  CB  replied to  XXJefferson51 @9.2.15    5 years ago

That's warrior class clownish. Coughing up a lung (or two) will end silliness. Hell, some of the long-term effects of Sars-Covid 2 will blunt the neurological senses. The more I read about this condition, the worse it reads.The ultimate state of liberty and freedom is NOT being in a 'pine' box six-feet under, or being a model of "ashes to ashes," or being "brain-drained" by a germ that successfully crosses the blood/brain barrier. I would not wish such on anybody, but suit yourselves.

 
 
 
CB
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9.2.18  CB  replied to  XXJefferson51 @9.2.17    5 years ago

Unremarkable. Covid cases are declining (from your perspective) through 'blunt force trauma' experience and let's be clear. Declining cases do not remark on the tragedy of lives loss due to negligent conduct by some conservatives. You decry your falling numbers and yet you support its challenge to depletion by laying aside science-as a shield-in the midst of a storm of arrows!

Some conservatives have instructed, directed, and behaved themselves foolishly during this pandemic.

You can take no credit for the good that has eeked itself out in-spite of some conservatives' category mistake of confusing disease production and destruction with freedoms and liberties.

Furthermore, you appear entirely inconsistent when you shout "freedom!" and "liberty" in the faces of business CEO's (like Fox News Inc.) and then rebuke the same folks as choosing to use 'pandemic control measures' to safeguard company workforces and workplaces.

Go to the back of the class!

 
 
 
Gordy327
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9.2.19  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @9.2.17    5 years ago
Covid cases are declining in the south and in most of America.

As recent history has shown, spikes in cases occur and can occur if we become too complacent too soon.

These mandates are not needed.

Sure they are.

 They are simply control tools.

That is simply your partisan based opinion.

 Rights and freedom should not be given up any longer.

Name ONE right or freedom you've given up!

Benjamin Franklin was right about what those who would trade freedom for security deserve.

With freedom also comes responsibility. Those who take freedom for granted (and ignore the bigger picture) don't deserve it!

 
 
 
CB
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9.2.20  CB  replied to  XXJefferson51 @9.2.17    5 years ago

Some conservatives have lost "top-level" influencers during this pandemic, because you all misjudged leading with thick-headed thinking shouting, "freedom!" and "liberty!" in the face of pandemic 'cannon--fire'! Throughout this pandemic, no one on this planet has operated with any freedoms or liberties that SARS-COVID-2 is obligated to respect.

You are shouting into a void and coming up empty. If weathering and suffering through the virus when it comes calling is your only answer to it. Then, your group, your towns, your spaces will continue to diminish to death and long-term SARS-COVID-2 after-effects!

 
 
 
Gordy327
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9.2.22  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @9.2.21    5 years ago

Nope. They're needed. Especially if we want to end the pandemic.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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9.2.24  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @9.2.23    5 years ago

It won't be over because people take that attitude as well as stupidly fighting mandates, vaccines, and protective measures which are all designed to fight the pandemic. It seems people are too stupid to want it over or don't care.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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9.2.26  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @9.2.25    5 years ago

Some of us want the pandemic to end. That should be the priority. Your wants are secondary and play out like a child whining. 

 
 
 
CB
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10  CB    5 years ago

Fox News host Neil Cavuto tells viewers 'life is too short to be an ass' in urging them to get vaccinated.

 
 

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