CHINA-DEMOCRAT COLLUSION: Red Threat Focuses New Tariffs on Punishing Crucial 2020 States
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Seems like the Chinese communists really want the Democrats to win in 2020.
As the trade war escalates, China is targeting tariffs to hurt pro-Trump states, including crucial swing states in America’s heartland, where President Donald Trump will need votes the most in order to win re-election in 2020.
China announced on Wednesday that the country will levy an additional 25 percent tariff on 106 American products, including pork, soybeans and aircraft, totaling $50 billion in U.S. dollars. This was done as a likely response to Trump’s announcement of tariffs on 1,333 Chinese products.
The soybean tariffs will prove particularly problematic to the U.S. economy, as they are currently the largest U.S. export to China. Rural states that overwhelmingly support Trump will be hit the hardest by China’s new push, which includes 25 percent levies on whiskey and tobacco that are designed to hurt the industry of Kentucky.
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China will levy a 15 percent duty on ginseng, which will primarily hurt Wisconsin. Wisconsin produces roughly 85 percent of ginseng exports out of the U.S. to China, and it is one of the states that Trump needs to retain if he wants a second term of his presidency. Tariffs on automobile producers in Michigan are expected to have the same effect.
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President Trump responded by focusing his ire on the policies of the Federal Reserve while strengthening his rhetoric against China and the U.S.-based corporations that do business in the hostile communist nation. Despite what the Chinese communists and their Democratic partners have in store to punish the U.S. economy, Trump refuses to back down on trade as he remains dedicated to making America great again.
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As usual, the Fed did NOTHING! It is incredible that they can “speak” without knowing or asking what I am doing, which will be announced shortly. We have a very strong dollar and a very weak Fed. I will work “brilliantly” with both, and the U.S. will do great...
As usual, the Fed did NOTHING! It is incredible that they can “speak” without knowing or asking what I am doing, which will be announced shortly. We have a very strong dollar and a very weak Fed. I will work “brilliantly” with both, and the U.S. will do great...
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....My only question is, who is our bigger enemy, Jay Powell or Chairman Xi?
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Our Country has lost, stupidly, Trillions of Dollars with China over many years. They have stolen our Intellectual Property at a rate of Hundreds of Billions of Dollars a year, & they want to continue. I won’t let that happen! We don’t need China and, frankly, would be far....
Our Country has lost, stupidly, Trillions of Dollars with China over many years. They have stolen our Intellectual Property at a rate of Hundreds of Billions of Dollars a year, & they want to continue. I won’t let that happen! We don’t need China and, frankly, would be far....
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....better off without them. The vast amounts of money made and stolen by China from the United States, year after year, for decades, will and must STOP. Our great American companies are hereby ordered to immediately start looking for an alternative to China, including bringing..
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Hilarious.
Weird how this far right wing poster only seeds from far right wing sites. He's been doing it so long that one might think that he/she was paid by the Heartland Institute to do it.
And one would likely not be too far from the truth, if at all.
the only way to attackthe Heartland Institute, is to Sea
Trump's trade war is ruining the economy and putting a LOT of his supporters out of work. They won't be voting for trump again. Soy bean farmers are literally losing the farm because of trumps ridiculous trade war, which WE are paying for no matter what trumpy tells you. And now there are fears of a recession, (watch the DJIA dropping like a brick), and if that happens? Trump will not be winning a second term. Christ even fox news said trump is circling the drain. Trump is already losing the trade war with China, doubling down on that is a piss poor decision. But then what do you expect from a failed businessman.
And then today, trump "ORDERING" private companies to stop dealing with China? That's SOCIALISM! It's also fascism. Only a dictator dictates to private citizens who they can do business with.
Trump is openly screwing the American people and his supporters just smile and say how great he is. Pathetic.
What is pathetic is liberals who are fine with a one-sided trade deal. Even Chuck Schumer is with Trump on this one. Trump was the only President with enough guts to do anything about it.
They won't be voting for trump again.
You think so, huh? Anytime you want to bet on that, I'm ready.
What ever CH4P, the Danish Prime Minister, Mette Fredericksen 'dissed' the Trump too.
Fentanyl? Better question would be to answer why there is such an illicit demand in America. Has HOPE been dashed for MAGA?
And now ( he ) is on his way to the G-7 to meet up with 'hair thing Boris' and make another pitch for Putin.
All true, and leave it to trump to slam China, and give the addicts a pass. They are doing it to themselves, not China. Perhaps trump is so stupid he doesn't realize that Fentanyl is used legally for pain management. I was on it for two years.
Need to find a picture with Trump at the kiddie table and the main table for the adults.
What adults? There aren't any.
I don't know what this "democrat party" might be.
Trump is literally the least mature president this country has ever seen. Presidential? I doubt he can spell it. Look at how many times he has cried because the big bad media is mean to him. He whines like a little bitch.
Remember, Putin's puppet Boris the hair man will also be at the end of the table with the Trump. Putin needs BREXIT and Boris Johnson will deliver it knowing full well it will diminish the British economy and Britain's world influence.
Republicans have 2 platforms, lower taxes for the wealthy and take away women's rights. That is their answer for everything, lower taxes, rinse, repeat.
I saw one where Trump's chair is a high chair.
That's the one. TY Mr. Frost. It is so spot on.
Trump destroyed markets American farmers worked for decades to develop...
Did he really expect red states to reward him for decimating their economies?
Maybe the race, bible and fetus cards will work again on those folk.
This seed is shameful.
Sponsored by group We the People
Like da Jets vs Da Sharks
but a tag team match.
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In dis corner, Chinese Democracy (G N R may have been on to something, that ole squeaky Axil)
VS
Putin it in Trumpps phat behind
People forgot that China also colluded to get Bill Clinton re-elected.
Big Lie.
... another step toward America's Night of Broken Glass ...
Big Lie
Red threat?
I went to bed last evening and it was 2019, awoke today to find myself in 1954. Must have left my way back machine on overnight.
I'm just curious... how would having Chinese billionaires in charge of the USA be a bad thing?
China's economy is growing about two to three times as fast as the economy being run by USA billionaires. This has been true for a while.
Wouldn't it make more sense to just get rid of the billionaires entirely, stop fighting their wars and move on without all the business thieves?
Well... for starters...
They aren't White.
White? You mean like the skin color? Why is that important?
"To put it simply, the idea of rich people who aren't White is unacceptable for a large portion of the American population"
The idea of people who aren't white is unacceptable for a large portion of the American population. As far as I can tell Chinese billionaires and non-white people continue to exist.
Still doesn't answer why it's worse to have Chinese than US billionaires in charge of the USA.
You'd have to ask the racists.
So you didn't have an answer to my question you just wanted to bring up white people?
I was assuming a perspicacity that apparently isn't there.
You know what they say about assuming...
Because of that I could probably flip your last comment on you... if I wanted to get into a pyssing contest.
I don't understand your original comment or why you brought up white people. I don't read minds so I ask questions. You don't have to answer.
But it's a stretch to dog me for not being able to read your mind.
I don't expect anyone to be a mind-reader. In fact, there are some folks around here who regularly presume to know others' thoughts... and are wrong almost all the time.
I do presume that some members know what's going on in the world... or at least try to know.
Your posts make me think you are intelligent and fact-oriented. From there I leapt, perhaps a bit hazardously, to assuming that you share my perception of the pervasiveness of racism in America.
IMNAAHO, racism underlies everything.
"racism underlies everything." But until you just told me you think that way, I didn't know it.
I agree by the way.
I like to understand where someone is coming from before I start drawing conclusion.
Maybe your comment was intended to be racist, how would I have known. I've been here like two or three days.
Bias is judged over time, not by a single comment... No matter what people might think.
And too many people run about tossing labels around like they know stuff they don't.
The other point is racism is a central element of USA because that is how it started... and because in group bias is a real thing... and requires some training and effort to overcome in an appropriate way for most people.
If there is one thing I'd like to convince people of it's that large groups are more dangerous than nukes... and more constantly abusive.
Group rule by force, not reason. In my view every individual has exactly the same rights and obligations as any group. It's just that individuals are weaker than groups... currently.
My bad. I've been around here since Methusalem was born, so I mistakenly assume everyone who posts here must know me.
I am a White male WASP, so I have lived a life lamentably lacking any form of discrimination. I have lived the very privileged existence to which any reasonably intelligent and industrious White male WASP is entitled.
Nearly fifty years ago, I went to Europe after my time in the Army. One thing led to another (notably marriage), so I now have French citizenship as well as American. We (same wife) split our time between the two countries. Yuma Arizona and Calais France.
My politics are way left. Off the scale.
Sound like a good life. Nice to meet you.
Don't see all that much difference between Democrats and Republicans. They've been fronting for rich people now for awhile and have done nothing but screw things up.
We'd be better off without them and their donor bosses.
Bothsidesism!
Or you could call it reality.
There are several possible explanations for seeing something that isn't there.
Are you sure you see the Democratic Party and the Republican Party as essentially the same?
The are even more explanations for applying silly labels to things instead of making an argument.
Both sideism?
You trying to tell me that you don't know that wealth runs the USA and hires Dems and Repubs to play opposing sides to divide the populace?
Tis nothing but the truth.
The only difference between Repub and Dem are the roles they play and the scripts they read.
Dems are the paid losers on fiscal policy. Repubs and Dems both fundamentally agree on foreign policy because foreign policy is all about war, which means foreign policy is run by Arms dealers like Raytheon.
That’s an interesting theory. I think it fails for the same reason so many conspiracy theories fail: they require too many actors to stay in their roles, 24/7.
The Koch brothers weren't playing a role. The Democratic candidates are too diverse to be playing the same role. Trump is certainly playing multiple roles, but even he probably doesn't know what they are.
If you mean that the whole political system / process is under the control of the ultra-rich... we agree. And therefore, the ultra-rich don't need to micro-manage the parties. A few marionettes like McConnell are all they need.
I don't believe it's quite yet "game over" for America, but it's getting close.
It's not really a conspiracy theory. Citizen's United?
It may not be game over for the USA... but it's real close to being game over for rich people. This is why they are squeezing so hard. Their methods have led to a spot where they have no answers. Things like general automation are right around the corner if we survive. Infinite resources are within grasp right now.
What happens to a market economy when human labor doesn't exist because it costs too much? Consumerism is a necessary component to capitalism and robots don't get paid so can not buy. Humans won't be doing the work, so they won't get paid.
Capitalist greed lead them to automate... now it is destroying the economy that makes them rich.
Similar stuff like this in the Roman Empire as well... and Egypt... and GB... and so on. In the 12,000 year history of "civilization" the one thing you can count on is that hierarchical leadership systems fail... EVERY SINGLE TIME.
The reason there they have no answers to help the situation their methods have led us to is because there is no answer to the fundamental problem of leadership in a competitive system.
When small groups cooperate leaders have direct contact with the people they are leading. Mama Joy can slap the bat shyte out of Leader Leon... or poison his food if he gets too out of line. Or not save him from the rampaging buffalo on a hunt. Competitive based leaders intentionally remove themselves from the appropriate social feedback that prevent Trumps and Bezos'
Point being leadership in cooperative groups is vastly different than leadership in groups with internal competition.
In competitive system the most ruthless, most greedy, least cooperatively principled people rise through the ranks.
So our system creates leaders who will lead in their interests not the 330,000,000 strong group's interest. After his interest the leader will serve the interests of his allies in the leader group. After that he will serve the interests of those neutral to him in the leader group. After that the leader will serve the interests of his enemies... in the leader group.
If the leader group does something that benefit people outside the leader group it's a by product.
Most people can't be reliably counted on to serve their own interest... much less put the interests of a group of people they don't know first.
This is the fundamental problem with all civilized governments.
And it can't be fixed.
It if fundamentally foolish to distill the will of millions or billions of people into the hands of one person.
I think we pretty much agree on the situation, although your lyric writing style sometimes makes understanding difficult.
I often say that American democracy died in 2014, when the Republican Party took permanent control of the federal government.
Can it be fixed? I think not.
Churchill said democracy is a very bad form of government; it is simply better than all the other forms that have been attempted. That may still have been true in Churchill's day, but modern media have broken it once and for all. There may yet be a democratic hiccup or two, but the transformation of America into a plutocracy is very nearly irreversible.
No matter. Just be sure your grandchildren learn Chinese.
My son is learning Chinese on my recommendation.
Not kidding at all.
On a side note: Was nice to have a pleasant conversation without drama.
Thanks. Hope we will chat again.
So, I understand that people support Trump even when Trump is screwing them. This happens with all presidents. All president get support from people they are screwing.
Leaving that aside. China is kicking the USA's collective ass. Their rate of growth stays two to three times what ours is. They have a much larger population, which translates to bigger markets.
China thinks longer term.
In short the USA is making the same mistake Britain made when it tried to squash the colony that became the USA.
In terms of economy you have to look at the potential for growth and the actual growth. US economy struggles to get to 2 percent. China stay over 4%. And the funny part is that the reason China's growth is so good is because greedy businessmen here in the USA sent our industrial base to China and shared our tech with China... All so our businessmen could take advantage of China's low wages. Which meant money in US wealths pocket.
So as a lot of people here in the USA have been falling out of the middle class because of this dynamic... at least they have the consolation of knowing that they helped lift approx. 2 billion chinese peasants into the middle class they were falling out of by shopping at WalMart instead of pay attention to politics at home... and saving unions.
China will be the world's number one economy if the USA tries to get in the way... we will get squashed like Britian.
Good post.
In terms of GDP PPP, China's economy passed America's in 2015 and is now considerably larger. Per capita, the US is still ahead, but in international competition, it's the overall that counts, not the per capita.
Thanks.
Currently China's middle class is larger than the entire U.S. population.
Good point.
It's hard for Americans to comprehend the size of China - something like five times the population of the US. Some Chinese provinces are bigger than the entire US.
Good charts and I'm familiar with them. My comment was the size of the middle class in China vs the U.S. population.