Trump will be re-elected because of left-liberal stupidity Through all his shocking vulgarities, he is providing his followers with a narrative which makes sense
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Not such a long time ago, in a galaxy that now appears far, far away, the public space was clearly distinguished from the obscenities of private exchanges. Politicians, journalists and other media personalities were expected to address us with a minimum of dignity, talking and acting as if the common good is their main preoccupation, avoiding vulgar expressions and reference to personal intimacies. There were, of course, rumors about their private vices, but they remained that – private matters mentioned only in the yellow press. Today, however, not only we can read in the mass media about the intimate details of public personalities, populist politicians themselves often regress to shameless obscenity. It is the very public domain in which ‘fake news’ circulates, in which rumors and conspiracy theories abound.
One should not lose sight of what is so surprising about this rise of shameless obscenity, so well noted and analyzed by Angela Nagle in her book Kill All Normies . Traditionally (or in our retroactive view of tradition, at least), shameless obscenity was subversive, an undermining of traditional domination, depriving the Master of his false dignity. I remember from my own youth how in the 1960s protesting students liked to use obscene words or gestures to embarrass figures of power and, so they claimed, denounce their hypocrisy. However, what we are seeing today is not the disappearance of authority, of Master figures, but its forceful reappearance – we are getting something unimaginable decades ago, obscene Masters.
Donald Trump is the emblematic figure of this new type of obscene populist Master, and the usual argument against him – that his populism (worry for the well-being of the poor ordinary people) is fake, that his actual politics protects the interests of the rich – is all too inadequate. The followers of Trump do not act ‘irrationally’, they are not victims of primitive ideological manipulations which make them vote against their interests. They are quite rational in their own terms: they vote for Trump because in the ‘patriotic’ vision he is selling around, he also addresses their ordinary everyday problems – guaranteeing them safety, a permanent job, et cetera.
When he was elected president, I was asked by a couple of publishers to write a book which would submit the Trump phenomenon to a psychoanalytic critics, and my answer was that we do not need psychoanalysis to explore the ‘pathology’ of his success – the only thing to psychoanalyze is the irrational stupidity of the left-liberal reactions to it, the stupidity which makes it more and more probable that Trump will be re-elected. To use what is perhaps the lowest point of Trump’s vulgarities, the left has not yet learned how to grab him by the pussy.
Trump is not winning just by shamelessly bombarding us with messages which generate obscene enjoyment at how he dares to violate the elementary norms of decency. Through all his shocking vulgarities, he is providing his followers with a narrative which makes sense – a very limited and twisted sense, but nonetheless a sense which obviously does a better job than the left-liberal narrative. His shameless obscenities serve as signs of solidarity with so-called ordinary people (‘you see, I am the same as you, we are all red under our skin’), and this solidarity also signals the point at which Trump’s obscenity reaches its limit. Trump is not totally obscene: when he talks about the greatness of America, when he dismisses his opponents as enemies of the people, et cetera, he intends to be taken seriously, and his obscenities are meant to precisely emphasize by contrast the level at which he is serious: they are meant to function as an obscene display of his belief in the greatness of America.
In order to undermine Trump, one should begin by displacing the site of his obscenity and treat as obscene his ‘serious’ statements. Trump is not truly obscene when he uses vulgar terms, he is truly obscene when he talks about America as the greatest country in the world, when he imposes his economic measures, et cetera. The obscenity of his speech masks this more basic obscenity. One could paraphrase here the well-known Marx brothers’ dictum: Trump acts and looks like a shamelessly obscene politician, but this should not deceive us – he really is a shamelessly obscene politician.
Public obscenity that proliferates today constitutes a third domain between the private and the public space: the private space elevated into the public sphere. It seems to be the form that fits best our immersion into cyberspace, our participation in all possible forums; Twitter, Instagram, Facebook. No wonder, then, that Trump makes most of his decisions public through Twitter. However, we don’t get here the ‘real Trump’: the domain of public obscenities is not that of sharing intimate experiences, it is a public domain full of lies, hypocrisies and pure malevolence, a domain in which we engage in a way similar to that of wearing a disgusting mask. The standard relationship between my intimacy and the big Other of public dignity is thus turned around: obscenities are no longer limited to private exchanges, they explode in the public domain itself, allowing me to dwell in the illusion that it’s all just an obscene game while I remain innocent in my intimate purity. The first task of a critic is to demonstrate how fake this purity is.
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Iv'e said it many times, Donald Trump relates to the average American. He speaks to their concerns and their needs. Most of all Trump is always himself. There is nothing fake about him. He will win again not despite all the power of the progressive movement, but because of it.
Average: noun - a number expressing the central or typical value in a set of data, in particular the mode, median, or (most commonly) the mean, which is calculated by dividing the sum of the values in the set by their number.
Trumps August 15-30 Gallup poll disapproval rating is at 57%.
That means the "average american" can't stand this mentally unstable bigoted moron in the oval office. By trying to claim the 39% that approve of Trump are the "average Americans" you're not only deluding yourself, you're effectively saying the actual majority are somehow less American, that they don't really represent "America" even though they are the majority of it. It's just sad to watch so many people in such deep denial convincing themselves that the little backwater puddles they swim in somehow represent what most people actual think about this commander in-competent.
We are 14 months from an actual election. Do you you remember what the polls told us when we were only 6 months out in 2016? :
2016 United States presidential election [ edit ]
Trump supposedly only had 35%.
But, what are the chances of Trump pulling two inside straits in a row?
What does Trumps skin of the teeth electoral win in 2016 have to do with how the "average American" thinks of him? I said nothing about the election. I merely pointed out that those supporting Trump are a minority, not the average American. His supporters were a minority in 2016 and are still a minority today. What is so hard to understand about this simple fact? You can cling to your fantasy of another electoral Trump win if you like, but to squeak out another 110,000 vote win in the same three swing states while losing the popular vote by millions simply isn't going to happen twice in a row. You act as if just because by a stroke of luck, and a lot of help from an enemy foreign government, Trump won in 2016 that means all norms and statistics have gone out the window and polling data can never be trusted again. Well, you hold onto that fantasy while watching your golden fraud, the great white dope metaphorically gets his fucking teeth kicked in by the "average American" come November 2020.
Is it that he is pulling out fantastic upsets or simply that Trump supporters don't like talking to pollsters?
I was responding to your comment about polling which has him with a 57% disapproval rating.
I said nothing about the election. I merely pointed out that those supporting Trump are a minority, not the average American. His supporters were a minority in 2016 and are still a minority today. What is so hard to understand about this simple fact?
A minority in what sense? You mean compared to everything that has been able to cast a vote? You mentioned polls - and polls don't reflect Trump's support! It is a fact of life!
You can cling to your fantasy of another electoral Trump win if you like, but to squeak out another 110,000 vote win in the same three swing states while losing the popular vote by millions simply isn't going to happen twice in a row.
I doubt that as well. I think Trump either wins big or loses big. My hunch is the former, with the polls beginning to paint a clearer picture in the last month, as they did last time.
You act as if just because by a stroke of luck, and a lot of help from an enemy foreign government, Trump won in 2016 that means all norms and statistics have gone out the window and polling data can never be trusted again. Well, you hold onto that fantasy while watching your golden fraud, the great white dope metaphorically gets his fucking teeth kicked in by the "average American" come November 2020.
LOL, Nope, I'm convinced that despite all the help Hillary got from the left wing media last time and all the lying they have done since about a Russia conspiracy, Trump wins big!
Polls don't elect presidents, the electorate does.
Facts do not support your bullshit claim.
"T he latest Fox News poll about the 2020 presidential race shows President Donald Trump in trouble against every top Democratic challenger tested, including Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren."
Doesn't matter, a room temperature ham sandwich could beat dishonest Donald. Donald is the most disgusting piece of shit President we've ever had and will go down in history as the worst President in US history. It doesn't matter how many piece of shit supporters suck his wet turds and gulp down his total bullshit, he will be out come January 2021 and his expeditious exit can't come soon enough for the average american who wants our nation to succeed instead of sucking seed as the worthless fuck wad Trump has steered us towards.
Trump is not winning just by shamelessly bombarding us with messages which generate obscene enjoyment at how he dares to violate the elementary norms of decency. Through all his shocking vulgarities, he is providing his followers with a narrative which makes sense – a very limited and twisted sense
How lucky we all are to have a president that shamelessly violates the norms of decency with shocking vulgarities and a narrative that is limited and twisted.
I like that too. I’ve always hated the plastic head career politicians with their phony speeches written by hired hands.
So lying constantly and cheating on wives is what you want to endorse? Really?
No it’s the tax cuts, immigration policy, ending the wars and slowing the spread of Democratic socialism that I support. I’d rather have Gary Johnson but my guy didn’t win.
Which have all gone to the 1%er's. Tariffs are taxes, if you are a consumer, your taxes have gone up, not down. No sense lying about it, we have all done our taxes.
Trump is deporting fewer illegals than Obama did, he isn't even close...
What do you call a trade war? Socialism. What do you call bailing out farmers with 12+ billion dollars? Socialism. What do you call attacking private businesses like Amazon, Google, Twitter, The NFL, The NBA? Socialism. What do you call a president that attempts to influence Carrier to not ship jobs to Mexico? Socialism. What do you call a president that orders all private businesses to stop doing business with China? FASCIST socialism. Socialism is the government playing an active role in private business. News flash!!! Trump IS a socialist.
I see first hand how tax cuts for the 1% benefit the middle class. We are currently in the planning stages of an expansion and the tax cuts help to provide extra funds that will be used in the growth. When the new buildings and equipment are finished this will open up opportunities for the employees to move up the ladder into higher paying jobs. It will create new positions in the business requiring more employees to be hired.
I am opposed to the tariffs and have stated so many times on this site. I’ve posted Milton Friedman videos explaining the harm of tariffs. My understanding is Trump’s goal is to eliminate the tariffs both here and abroad.
Trickle down economics has never worked, Dean. How do you think the 1%er's got so rich in the first place?
SOME may be promoted, but companies are consolidating and reducing the workforce via automation which requires few employees. Look at any car manufacturer, most of the car is assembled and produced via automation, so why give them more tax breaks and dick over the middle class? They aren't going to hire more people, they will take the extra savings and further automate their factories. The company I worked for closed its doors back in March. Why? Because they could farm out their circulation to another company that can print newspapers in greater quantity than we could....with ONE employee. THAT'S the way the world is now. What you are suggesting worked 40-50 years ago, not today. Giving big industries massive tax breaks is not helping the middle class, it's destroying it. Giving them huge tax breaks does nothing but make them even richer.
Fair enough, I stand corrected.
You are starting to turn...I can tell. However, you have been stuck at this step (the 'I didn't vote for him' thingy) for way too long. It's ok, you can say it: There is something wrong with Donald Trump and if I continue to support him on NT, my reputation for being clever, extremely intelligent, and quite handsome, will be thrashed.
Seriously Dean, he isn't here for us. He's here for himself...his ridiculous family...his 'brand'. I have been opposed to impeachment and his removal from office prior to the end of his term. But I no longer feel that way. There is too much time for him to flush what's left of this country down the toilet.
The only trickle down that comes from the right is that which trickles down their leg.
All that and they still claim they have the moral high ground. If Obama had acted like trump for even ONE day, just one, the right would be up in arms and clutching their pearls for the next 500 years. But trump acts like an asshat DAILY and not only is the right not outraged, they actually defend it.
Indeed Trump is too terrible to contemplate, and getting worse by the day, if not by the hour. It seems to closer to re-election time the more desperate he becomes and more psychologically disturbed.
What is even more disturbing, is the people who defy any intelligent logic in their support Trump, and accuse everyone who does not agree with their own thinking morons and idiots.
Do you not read the comments here and other places from lefties and democrats that make the same claim about those that disagree with them?