Behind the impeachment push: Left simply hates what Trump represents
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A founding member of the Department of Homeland Security and a legitimate whistleblower weighs in on the Left's attempt to impeach President Donald Trump, saying the commander-in-chief presents an "unprecedented challenge" to them.
Phil Haney, the former DHS employee, admits the House can impeach the president for nearly any reason. While he believes they have the right to do it, he also argues that the actions against Trump are not in line with the focus and spirit of the Constitution.
Haney believes the Left could possibly find precedent to impeach Trump based on other public figures who have been impeached for behavior or actions that are unbecoming of the dignity of the office. Yet, he questions whether the effort could actually be successful. Personally, he doesn't believe Trump will be impeached, but he does understand Congress has the right to do it.
Haney"There may be some deeper level, cynical subplots going on that are actually part of a calculated move [to move forward with impeaching the president]," Haney suggests. "However, they're so far out on the edge that they're really playing with fire – and it will backfire on them."
Haney contends "impeachment is the paradox of liberty," pointing out that America has the liberty and the form of government that allows participation in the political system.
"The paradox of liberty – what do you do with it?" he asks. "Do you squander it with frivolous frenzies and outbursts of psychosis like what we're seeing? Or do you use this magnificent gift in a constructive way for the good of the people?"
On the "other side of the paradoxical coin," Haney says no other issue is built into the structure of the Constitution that illustrates how important it is to have a true, grassroots movement by the people to harness the erroneous actions of the government.
"There is no other issue that cries out for grassroots involvement more than impeachment," he continues. "[And it] is the litmus test of real liberty." The reasons being used by Democrats in their call for impeachment reveals their worldview and values, Haney attests.
"The fact that the Democrats are trying to impeach Trump shows you not only what their values are with President Trump, but also marginalizes every single person who voted for him or supports him," he tells OneNewsNow.
"[The supporters of impeachment] don't care what the American people have said. They insist they know better and they're willing to disenfranchise the greater majority of the American public in our effort to impeach President Trump. That, my friend, is the paradox of liberty."
Haney is convinced the effort was fast-tracked with the complaint of a "so-called whistleblower." He describes this person as a "composite" – and he doesn't believe the perpetrator is a true whistleblower, but "an opportunist and an operative." He believes this operative was mostly likely sent into the White House by John Brennan (former director of the CIA) to gather intel.
While those in the opportunist's circle may or may not have been cooperative participants, Haney argues "it is evident the opportunist gathered information, compiled it in some certain way and then handed it off to his roster of associates" – whom he believes very likely included people like Democratic lawmakers Adam Schiff, Jerrold Nadler, Nancy Pelosi, and Chuck Schumer.
"He was actually passing information to them in the same way a barista hands you a cup of coffee over the counter. He's gave them raw information straight over the counter."
Haney notes a key indicator to corruption in the form of a tweet by Adam Schiff on August 28, 2019 – a tweet sent prior to the whistleblower report becoming known.
"This points the needle in the direction the whistleblower was already in direct contact with Schiff," Haney concludes. "The whistleblower is a composite, an operative , and not a true whistleblower – and that's based on my hard-earned, costly insight from the experiences that I went through [as a legitimate whistleblower]."
"Today," Haney states, "I see all this virtue signaling, protecting the integrity of the whistleblower, showing how heroic and martyr-like he is — but the fact of the matter is, Adam Schiff is desperate to protect the whistleblower, because in the process he's protecting himself and a number of others."
Haney believes that when the whistleblower actually comes out and is forthcoming in directly answering questions before committees, it will be revealed that he had previous contact with the likes of Schiff, Nadler, Pelosi, Schumer, and others prior to ever filing the report.
"All indications tell me he was specifically chosen and selected, deliberately and intentionally inserted into the inside workings of the White House to do exactly what he did," Haney surmises.
"It is also important to logically conclude President Trump began securing transcripts of his conversations, because they kept getting leaked."
In a similar vein, Haney suspects Trump already knows who the whistleblower is or at least has a "short list." He contends that when Trump says he wants to know who the whistleblower is, it's to "get a sense of the reaction of the virtue signaling that inevitably follows when he makes any kind of a statement – because we all know it doesn't matter what he says, he's going to get a hysterical reaction from the Left."
He continues: "[The Left] hates him because he contradicts their worldview and his mere existence is an offense to them. As long as [the president] represents constitutional values, values of the founding fathers, and sovereignty, they're going to find him offensive – simply because it contradicts their worldview. He's an unprecedented challenge to them."
Haney concludes by saying there is a reason for hope.
"We have reason for hope because we live in a country that allows us to participate in the protection of our own liberties," the former DHS employee shares. "If we had no recourse and had to just sit there and watch the Democratic Party pick the president apart piece by piece until they destroyed him, we would have no reason for hope."
"[But] we live in a country with an incredible heritage and ideology that was defined by the founding fathers, which allows us to participate in the defense of our own liberties – and that's a rare thing. Consider what's happening in Hong Kong this very day."
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Yes, we hate a liar, a cheat, a blowhard, a narcissistic asshole, a know it all when he knows nothing, a swindler, a bully, someone who claimed bankruptcy how many times, a bone spurs draft dodger, a treasonous asshole conspiring with a foreign country against an American citizen...I could go on and on but you get the picture. Trump is a disgrace
If he were impeached on those grounds, at least it would be honest.
Trump broke the law, he has gotten away with it too many times in the past, those days are over. Impeach him, then lock his orange ass up.
Let's not pretend any of this is about Trump breaking a law. That's more insulting the intelligence of Americans than any other aspect of this - or any silly thing that Trump ever says. Look at these articles and the dates for them, keeping in mind that Trump didn't even become president until January 20, 2017.
4/17/16 - Could Trump be impeached shortly after he takes office?
9/22/2016 - University of Utah finds legal case to impeach Donald Trump
11/9/2016 - Congress: Impeach Donald J. Trump
11/11/2017 - What it would take to impeach Trump—yes, people are already asking
11/14/2017 - WILL TRUMP BE IMPEACHED?
1/15/2017 - Impeach Trump
1/20/2017 - The campaign to impeach President Trump has begun
This is just a sampling. There are several more dated on or before the man was sworn in.
You cannot talk this much about impeaching a president before he is even sworn in and seriously expect people to believe that when you finally get around to impeaching him, it's because of something he did as president.
You can make it about whatever you like, trump broke the law and it should disturb everyone that trump used extortion to get dirt on a political rival via a foreign country. Trump has admitted he did it and his own call logs show that he did it.
Define that.
Exactly. You would impeach the president and it doesn't matter to you if there is a good reason. That's a problem.
You mean like getting someone to claim he gets hookers to urinate on him in Russia? That's dirt.
What Trump wants is not dirt, but evidence of official behavior by a former Vice President - something that, as president, he - and we - has every right to know.
The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.
Very good. The next step is to apply the facts to that law. Nothing in Trump's dealings with Ukraine can be applied to the law. Therefore, impeachment is not justified.
You need to do more than simply say it's outrageous or wrong or whatever. That's just an opinion. And more is particularly needed here because his accusers have been talking about impeachment since before he even took office. This process deserves a certain level of integrity even if you think Trump himself has none.
Clinton was impeached for lying about a Blow Job.
It's a good thing
Trump Never lies about anything...
Again, it's not WHAT he lied about, it is to WHOM he lied. But you knew that.
Yeah, that was pretty stupid. Again, bad behavior and so on, but definitely not worth getting rid of a president.
Well aren't you special.
You enjoy being lied to, and have no spine to call out that liar
WTF is wrong with people .
How can you guys continue to 'parse' words spit out of Putin's swallowers mouth, too much
Elementary.
Actually, impeachment doesn't require a violation of criminal law. Abuse of power, corruption, misconduct, oppression, those are just of few of the reasons for impeachment mention during debate @ the Constitutional Convention.
Here is some of the conduct in Articles of Impeachment that have been passed out of the House:
Firing a Cabinet officer
Appointing a New Cabinet officer
Refusing to allow a Cabinet officer to hold office.
Making or causing to be made false or misleading public statements for the purpose of deceiving the people of the United States
Now, NONE of those are violations of criminal laws but they ARE High Crimes, per the House of Representatives and THAT body is the ONLY body that decides what is.
As is your claim that:
Yet you don's seem to think that you need to back that up with anything...
Why?
Yes, that's why Trump should STFU.
That's something that I KNOW.
Because if you're in the habit of accusing someone of wrongdoing before they have even had a chance to do it, it kind of hurts your credibility. It shows you don't take the matter seriously, you don't have a sense of responsibility to justice, and you're probably prepared to lie to undo an election.
There were a shit load of allegations against Trump the day he took office.
He started: "Making or causing to be made false or misleading public statements for the purpose of deceiving the people of the United States" on day ONE.
That's literally everybody running for office or already elected, and - these days - damn near everyone in journalism who reports on them. You want to find me a politician on politifact with a 100% Truthful rating? (appropriate sample size required of course)
Sorry, you need something better than that.
No such thing by any means from any political party. Any one who believes that lives in fantasy land.
JMOO
I ask that about Bernie supporters all the time.
at leastb Bernie was attempting to share the wealth, where as Trump's " middle class" tax cuts was pure bullshit
As you said. You enjoy being lied to. Bernie is simply telling people what they want to hear to keep his fat paycheck and pension. He knows everything he promotes is complete bullshit that won't ever happen and wouldn't ever do what he claims it will anyway. He also knows huge numbers of Americans are terrible at math and have zero understanding of money, so they'll never question his nonsense and wouldn't understand the answers if they asked.
Pretty much, yeah. Again...Americans are terrible at math and know nothing about money. It's very difficult to cut taxes on people who aren't paying very much to begin with, if they pay anything at all.
Prove it.
As the Mueller report should have taught you, if the intent is corrupt, it's impeachable and or illegal.
Actually, I don't need anything, the Congress does.
If you saw extortion in that phone conversation, then democrats should have enough fortitude to vote for articles of impeachment.
As for the law, (should it be necessary) we have newly appointed judges who will administer that!
Sorry, but the way I and others see it, Bernie is more Hell bent on sharing other people's wealth rather than his own.
I'm willing to play along with a lot of horseshit at times, but I draw the line at
Donald Trump has never had the "greater majority" of the American people with him. Never, not for a second.
You sound like an extremist. Dont do anything crazy.
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Trump is a liar, crook, bigot and moron. Those are not opinions those are facts. Now after his performance today we can add unstable to the description. He needs to be removed from office as soon as it can be legally and peacefully done.
In the last civil war, 800,000 Americans DIED. No patriot that truly loves America would EVER float the idea of another civil war. Trump is not only the worst president in history, his daily unhinged rants prove that he doesn't care what he can do FOR America, only what he can get OUT of America. He is a fucking POS.
Hum, then you say:
Trump is not only the worst president in history, his daily unhinged rants prove that he doesn't care what he can do FOR America, only what he can get OUT of America. He is a fucking POS.
So, I can only assume that you don't love America, but you never made any such claim, did you? That's right - You are saying those who love America need to be restrained and thoughtful about holding the country together, while those who don't really like this country get to slander the President and anybody else who disagrees with them. My rule is simple - I treat people as they treat others. I'm not going to be a gentleman when dealing with radical leftists and I'm never going to let them "transform" my country!!!
Wow, if working for DHS in 2002 makes one a 'founding member', my wife is a founder too. I'll have to salute her when she gets home.
Left Simply Hates What Trump Represents
Golly gee-- I wonder why?
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Lol, No it has nothing to do with the Dow. Leftists see the world differently for one thing. The other thing is that leftists want to control thought & speech. Then there is the way they see the world. I think Iv'e gone through that enough here on this site. Let's just admit it's ideology which is at the center of this.
Right wing cranks are much more ideological than your average liberal.
Lol, I don't see any "right wing cranks" fining people $250,000 for using the term "Illegal Alien"
"Have you had your head in the sand for the last week"
No I was in the hospital waiting for brain surgery. Care to provide a link or three?
Read the seeds about it here on NT.
WTF are you whining about now Xx?
Would posting links to other seeds on NT make you happy?
Would that be ON TOPIC?
BTFW, want to stay ON TOPIC? How about you reply to my 4.1.121 post?
T'aint my job to look up and provide the proof of your arguments for you.
What 'argument' are you claiming that I need to prove?
So you were whining about the content of your own seed. Got ya.
Pleading ignorance will not help you.
Pretending that I am won't help you.
You replied to my question about your whining with a quote from you seed, so ya.
Who's pretending?