The coming war with Domestic Terror
After classifying antifa to be what it is - a terrorist organization, (something that by itself is legally unfounded) the President will meet with AG William Barr and Governors to discuss the violence and mayhem unleashed on American cities the past 4 days and nights. City residents have been watching their cities burn as local leaders (progressive mayors) have done next to nothing, other than to emasculate their police departments. The violence and looting clearly have little to do with the George Floyd incident.
So who is involved here?
We can dispose of the peaceful protesters. If they ever existed, their protest has been hijacked. That leaves two groups. The group that simply takes advantage of rioting to go out and steal. They always seem to get away with it and therefore do it brazenly right in front of cameras. Then we come to the more ominous group - left wing extremists. They are the ones committing all the vandalism, burning, personal injury and even murder. Let us not forget the shooting at the Ronald V. Dellums Federal Building in downtown Oakland which left one federal officer, Patrick Underwood dead and another injured. We have also had beatings of shop owners trying to protect their businesses. In the nation's capitol iconic & historical sights have been vandalized. In Minneapolis the progressive mayor allowed a violent mob to burn down a police station.
In NYC police officers were attacked with Molotov Cocktails. There were arrests with interesting results:
" It is now being reported that one of the defendants arrested, Colinford Mattis, 32, is a furloughed Pryor Cashman associate. Mattis is a graduate of New York University and Princeton University. He was reportedly arrested with a second attorney in the attack. Mattis is accused of driving a van and passenger Urooj Rahman, 31, threw a Molotov cocktail. Rahman is reportedly a human rights lawyer but also recently lost her job.
An NYPD surveillance camera reportedly recorded Rahman throwing the device toward a NYPD vehicle in Fort Greene. A video showed her getting out of a tan 2015 Chrysler Town and Country minivan driven by Mattis and moving toward the patrol car. She was observed lighting a fuse on a Bud Light beer bottle and throwing it through a broken window. It exploded inside of the vehicle and the two fled.
The FBI statement included the following description:
“Officers pursued the minivan and arrested Rahman and Mattis, who was the vehicle’s driver. The NYPD recovered several precursor items used to build Molotov Cocktails, including a lighter, a bottle filled with toilet paper and a liquid suspected to be gasoline in the vicinity of the passenger seat and a gasoline tank in the rear of the vehicle.”
The specific provision charged appears to be 18 U.S.C. 844 (i) :
“Whoever maliciously damages or destroys, or attempts to damage or destroy, by means of fire or an explosive, any building, vehicle, or other real or personal property used in interstate or foreign commerce or in any activity affecting interstate or foreign commerce shall be imprisoned for not less than 5 years and not more than 20 years, fined under this title, or both; and if personal injury results to any person, including any public safety officer performing duties as a direct or proximate result of conduct prohibited by this subsection, shall be imprisoned for not less than 7 years and not more than 40 years, fined under this title, or both; and if death results to any person, including any public safety officer performing duties as a direct or proximate result of conduct prohibited by this subsection, shall also be subject to imprisonment for any term of years, or to the death penalty or to life imprisonment.”
https://jonathanturley.org/2020/06/01/two-new-york-attorneys-arrested-for-throwing-molotov-cocktail-at-police/
There is also this little gem:
"Chiara de Blasio, 25, was taken into custody around 10:30 p.m. after cops declared an unlawful assembly at 12th Street and Broadway in Lower Manhattan, the sources said.
She had allegedly been blocking traffic on Broadway and was arrested after refusing to move, the source said."
https://www.foxnews.com/us/mayor-bill-de-blasios-daughter-chiara-arrested-at-manhattan-protest
A Human rights attorney? Mayor de Blasio's daughter? Ya, there they are!
We will surely find out more as time goes on. We have an enemy out there and they are domestic terrorists.
With William Barr on the case, we will be able to prosecute those who crossed state lines. As for the weak-willed governors who seem unable or unwilling to deal with the organized mayhem, the President may be able to engage with them and persuade then to stand up for law and order. That means protecting their citizens and empowering their demoralized police forces.
A ttorney General William Barr declared that the violence being “instigated and carried out” by "antifa and other similar groups" in connection to nationwide rioting is “domestic terrorism and will be treated accordingly.”
“With the rioting that is occurring in many of our cities around the country, the voices of peaceful and legitimate protests have been hijacked by violent radical elements," he said in a Sunday statement . “Groups of outside radicals and agitators are exploiting the situation to pursue their own separate, violent, and extremist agenda.”
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/barr-says-violence-by-antifa-and-others-during-riots-is-domestic-terrorism
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William Barr meets with the President today at 10:30 AM EST
This is why no one takes this group (We The People) seriously. It is routinely far right propaganda.
Vic, most Americans cannot stand Bill Barr. Most Americans cannot stand Donald Trump. And you think these two people will lead the nation to a worthwhile point? Hilarious.
Donald Trump is being told by his top political advisers to knock it off with all the macho talk about "when the shooting starts the looting starts" because it will cost him votes.
And Trump has no authority to declare any group of Americans a terrorist organization.
If he comes out , at the same exact time that he declares antifa a "terrorist organization" and declares that the Proud Boys and the Oathkeepers are terrorist organizations as well then you might have a point about Trump and Barr wanting to do some good. Of course that will never happen.
I agree on that one point
I understand what your'e saying. I only wanted to note that the President simply can't declare a domestic organization as a terrorist organization. What is important is that the DOJ actually TREATS antifa as a terrorist organization, which it clearly is, regardless of it's origins.
It's time for it. Maybe that will be the silver lining to this.
The projection at work here is mind-boggling.
No one?
136 people appear to disagree!
136 people who have the temerity to disagree with the politics of the butt-hurt.
That's gotta sting for some in the nether regions just a little bit more ....
Thanks for the goofy imagination.
And the projection continues ....
It's the classic 136 vs the 8.
Its past time for peaceful protestors to stay home. Point made long ago. From this point forward if you are out, you could get hurt. It's on you. Time to scrape the dog shit off the bottom of our shoe that is antifa and/or whoever else is behind this.
Round up the white punks on dope and get them all in a cell with "he sure has a purty mouth" Bubba or bull dyke Doris.
The world will be a much better place when that happens and bubba and doris will be happy as well.
A twofer if you will ....
That is always the case when one goes out to protest. That is the risk one takes.
Finally an honest admission the goddamn gop is itching for a goddamn race war!
You are obviously wrong on many counts. If you look at the rioters in just about any of the cities, you will see as many whites in the crowds as blacks.
This is now about politics.
No, "it" is about racist cops.
I saw Steve Schmidt on tv last night, the never trumper Steve Schmidt. He made the obseravtion that what six days of protests signals is that blacks will never accept police abuse in the United States again. If another George Floyd incident happens again two months from now, the streets will be filled with protests again. This event (Floyds murder) WAS the straw that broke the camels back. There have been large multi-day protests in over 40 major US cities. Its time for immediate reform in police depts related to how people of color, blacks, hispanics, American Indians, and Asians are treated when they interact with police.
Of course we don't want racist cops. Protests are totally ok. Riots, looting and violence are not! It's that simple.
I don't really care what Steve Schmidt thinks. This time the rioters MUST be prosecuted.
"No order No Justice!"
Is it? Have you heard what George Floyd's brother said?
So, your argument is that Chauvin was a bad seed and he could have just as easily put his knee on a white persons neck for 9 minutes. It was just Floyd being at the wrong place at the wrong time and he ran into this bad seed cop.
What planet do you live on anyway?
Protests are fine.
The looters I've seen seem to be having a jolly ole time. They don't seem to upset about George Floyd.
Nonsense. You are so transparent its sad really .......
It is now being reported that one of the defendants arrested, Colinford Mattis, 32, is a furloughed Pryor Cashman associate. Mattis is a graduate of New York University and Princeton University. He was reportedly arrested with a second attorney in the attack. Mattis is accused of driving a van and passenger Urooj Rahman, 31, threw a Molotov cocktail. Rahman is reportedly a human rights lawyer but also recently lost her job.
That goddamn gop.
S t. John's Episcopal Church, attended by every U.S. president since James Madison, on Sunday became one of several historic American churches damaged or defaced during the recent protests against police brutality against black Americans – the basement of the Washington, D.C., church was set afire Sunday night
any bets those 2 lawyers are out of a job and disbarred if not now soon?
You really think that will happen? Who will disbar them?
I doubt the law firm they worked for will keep them, bad publicity to have on staff a couple accused arsonists , and if convicted even on lesser charges it could lead to automatic disbarment to practice law.
Aint karma a bitch?
Let's hope it goes that way Mark.
That'll give them more time to trash the stuff other people paid for.
Yee Haw!
Last seen the ABA was accused of blatant bias and making a false statement to Congress in violation of 18 U.S.C. Section 1001:
Can they be trusted to disbar the two young progressive activists?
One can only hope
The same organization that disbars other lawyers.....The ABA (American Bar Association). Disbarment is the removal of a lawyer from a bar association or the practice of law, thus revoking his or her law license or admission to practice law. Disbarment is usually a punishment for unethical or criminal conduct. Bill Clinton was disbarred from practicing law in Arkansas and was also disbarred from practicing law in front of the Supreme Court over the Lewinsky incident.
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Campaign staff for Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden are advertising their donations to a group that pays bail fees in Minneapolis after the city's police jailed people protesting the killing of a black man by a white police officer.
I like it. Grassroots contributions from moderates, ("Here's my last $5 we love you, Joe) going for bailing radical, unemployed Sanders asslickers.
It's amazing supporting terrorists is an acceptable position for Democrats.
They are disgusting. That's just what many of them are doing.
Is that the default mantra? ALL Democrats? Or just like anyone else, some people who happen to be democrats.... yeah that is more like it.
Well yeah Perrie. Biden, the presumptive nominee's staff is donating money to domestic terrorists.
Have they been fired or disciplined or even criticized? What pressure has Democrats placed on Biden or his staff?
Minnesota officials believe white supremacists attending demonstrations in Twin Cities, official says
As much as anyone may "want" it to be Antifa, some seem to believe there are other causes.
There is ZERO evidence of that!
And the evidence for Antifa is what?
Minnesota officials have identified white nationalist groups operating on the ground amid the protests in Minneapolis and St. Paul over the police killing of George Floyd , the state's Department of Corrections said late Sunday.
State Corrections Commissioner Paul Schnell told reporters at a press conference that recruiting materials in the form of posters had been located by officials in the Twin Cities, adding that his office is investigating as-yet unsubstantiated claims that antifa-aligned groups were active in the cities as well,
See the part where it says "unsubstantiated claims that antifa-aligned groups were active". The truth is, no one knows. The truth is that many people will only believe what they want to believe.
My title only says "domestic terror." If it turns out to be antifa we will know very soon.
White Supremacists, which the gutless Governor and liberal mayor mentioned is mentioned as their suspicion. That claim lacks evidence and logic. I'll bet against that one.
There are recruitment materials everywhere. Why would white supremacists riot on behalf of a murdered black American?
I don't know, you tell me. Perhaps to destroy black owned property? Maybe a chance to actually kill a black person? I can only speculate as to motivation. But I do believe they would also qualify as 'domestic' would they not?
As far as Antifa, there is no evidence of them being involved either, other than Barr saying some were using Antifa-like tactics. He didn't say it was Antifa.
I wear a surgical mask when I leave the house, doesn't make me a surgeon.
Oh, I see...
Maybe a chance to actually kill a black person?
They've had 6 nights if that was the goal. Then they must be as dysfunctional as I believe they are.
But I do believe they would also qualify as 'domestic' would they not?
They certainly would, as a rag tag group. I doubt they would ever go up against antifa again. They usually are outnumbered, beaten, routed and it is they who wind up in jail. So again, unless there is evidence, white supremacists are the last thing I would expect to see at these massive riots.
As far as Antifa, there is no evidence of them being involved either, other than Barr saying some were using Antifa-like tactics. He didn't say it was Antifa.
Correct on both counts, BUT he will look into all of those who came in from other states. Those are the ones the federal government can prosecute.
I wear a surgical mask when I leave the house, doesn't make me a surgeon
Understood.
Trump might activate The Insurrection Act. It is about damned time!