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When Will We Find Aliens?

  

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Via:  dowser  •  10 years ago  •  65 comments

When Will We Find Aliens?

No, not illegal aliens, but interplanetary aliens.

For the first time in human history, we may be able to answer the question: Are we alone in the universe?

Chris McKay's quest for inter planetary life began in 1976, when the first Viking spacecraft landed on Mars. The Viking lander found some kind of substance in the soil of Mars that took in nutrients and producing carbon dioxide-- just like a microbe would. But, when no organic materials were found, scientists concluded that there was no life on Mars.

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Despite subsequent explorations, no proof of life has been found-- but the data produced by Viking is still intriguing scientists. In addition, as more probes are launched into space, they are finding comets, asteroids, and planets with water-- the spot where microbial life could develop. Outside the solar system, there are literally thousands of planets with earth-like atmospheres, and, that basic necessity, water.

In the coming decades, new space probes and telescopes will be able to seek out earth-like planets outside our solar system. "We have a decent chance for finding life on Earth-like planets within the next 30 years," said Jim Kasting, a planetary scientist at Penn State University.

For the first time in human history, scientists have the means and a plan to answer the question. Jason Wright, also an astronomer at Penn State, said, "It might be a long shot that we can do this, but the question is so compelling."

To read more, visit the entire article on the BBC !

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Dowser
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link   seeder  Dowser    10 years ago

This could get very interesting!

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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link   Buzz of the Orient    10 years ago

We may see them on their respective planets when this telescope is finished being constructed in Hawaii.

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A. Macarthur
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link   A. Macarthur    10 years ago

I wonder would Ted Cruz advocate a fence to keep out Martians that come here illegally?

 
 
 
Dowser
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Hahaha!

Probably so, for sure! Grin.gif

 
 
 
Dowser
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I really look forward to seeing images from this telescope! Great picture! I wondered what it looked like! Grin.gif

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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link   Buzz of the Orient    10 years ago

HELLOOOOO....

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deepwater don
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link   deepwater don    10 years ago

Dowser.... dear lady

Interesting article. I've often thought that rather than our quest to find aliens elsewhere, they have been here, and did not really like what they saw. So why make their presence known? Thanks for the article.

 
 
 
Nona62
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link   Nona62    10 years ago

"ET PHONE HOME! " Nice find Dowser!!!

 
 
 
Nigel Dogberry
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link   Nigel Dogberry    10 years ago

The Reptilians are already here.

The Robots' Rebellion (1994), And the Truth Shall Set You Free (1995), The Biggest Secret (1999), and Children of the Matrix (2001) he set out a worldview that combined New-Age spiritualism with a denunciation of totalitarian trends in the modern world. At the heart of his theories lies the idea that a secret group of reptilian humanoids called the Babylonian Brotherhood (including George W. Bush , Queen Elizabeth II , Kris Kristofferson and Boxcar Willie ) controls humanity, and that many prominent figures are reptilian. [ 2 ] He further proposes that the Moon is an artificial construct "probably a hollowed-out planetoid" from which the reptilians broadcast an "artificial sense of self and the world" that humans mistakenly perceive as reality. [ 3 ]

 
 
 
Kavika
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link   Kavika     10 years ago

They are among us.Smile.gif

 
 
 
Nona62
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24.gif 24.gif 24.gif Good on Kav!!

 
 
 
Nowhere Man
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link   Nowhere Man    10 years ago

Been searchin for ET for a long time, hopefully sometime in my lifetime...

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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link   Robert in Ohio    10 years ago

Dowser

Didn't Buddha say that to find something, one must first stop searching for it (or words to that effect)

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Bob Nelson
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link   Bob Nelson    10 years ago

When Will We Find Aliens?

We won't.

They'll find us.

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Or maybe

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MalamuteMan
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When Will We Find Aliens?

I doubt we will ever find aliens that are anywhere near where we can look them in the eye. We may discover planets that have the necessary components to support life... but only through long range telescopes... furthermore, even if we did discover such a place, and somehow came up with the means to travel there (which we won't), the odds we would find life forms anything like humans is so small it can be said to be essentially zero.

I wish we would spend more time thinking about the many thousands of life forms we have right here on planet Earth... life forms that are pushed into extinction every day by our human actions... I wish we would devote as much time to protecting this incredibly rare life supporting place, the Earth, on which we and every other life form we know of is dependent for the survival of its kind... It is truly fascinating to contemplate the vastness of space and what other things may be out there(living or not)... But contemplating the notion that we will ever "find aliens" distracts us from our responsibilities here on Earth.

Sorry to be so negative, Dowsie... but this dog's gotta speak up for the creatures on this planet that have no way to voice their concerns about the impact of humans...

[Mal steps down off his soapbox... places the box on his travois... hitches himself to his travois... trudges off... tail dragging... ears drooping...]

 
 
 
MalamuteMan
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Okay... This is really frustrating... I posted a comment... put a lot of thought into it... the list of articles on front page seems to recognize that I did that... but there is no sign of it here... ARGH!!!

I hope it eventually sows up...

[Mal frowns...]

Update: Whew!!! Mal's original comment finally showed up...

 
 
 
Nona62
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link   Nona62    10 years ago

I just hope they're friendly!!!

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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link   Bob Nelson    10 years ago

Aside from the pictures, my post was serious.

The "technological window" implies that there is very little chance of two "neighbor" stars evolving to similar technology at the same time. Our neighbors are either far behind us or far ahead. If they are far behind, we have no way of finding them any time soon. If they are far ahead, we probably cannot understand their emissions... but they may be able to listen to us... or visit us... if they choose to.

 
 
 
MalamuteMan
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The "technological window" implies that there is very little chance of two "neighbor" stars evolving to similar technology at the same time.

That pretty much sums it up. Thanks for making the point so succinctly!

Add to that... the physical and logistical limitations of spanning the distance even to "neighbor stars" relegates the idea ofinterstellartravel strictly to sci-fi...

 
 
 
Dowser
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Darling, Buzz! Grin.gif

 
 
 
Dowser
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Thanks, Nona! The BBC always has interesting things...

 
 
 
Dowser
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I know-- I kept thinking that if they knew they were here, they would be wise to not let their presence be known!!! Grin.gif

 
 
 
Dowser
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We never know, do we? The article goes on to say that if we found something, it would probably be microbes... Grin.gif

 
 
 
Dowser
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Funny!

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If I were to name some reptilians, those people would not be high on my list...

 
 
 
Dowser
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I think you're right!

That's true for my life...

 
 
 
Dowser
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I think they were going to analyze telescope data. Not that we'll ever meet, so to speak, but we may know that something is there...

Probably slime-like creatures... Smile.gif Maybe like the stuff up under the refrigerator...

 
 
 
Dowser
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Eek!

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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link   Bob Nelson    10 years ago

Familiarity breeds contempt.

We're fascinated by the creatures that live in the deepest depths... but care little for those in our own lawn. And even less for the beasties whose preservation might inconvenience us in any way.

 
 
 
Dowser
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Have y'all ever seen the movie, "Interstellar"? We watched it, and wow... I hope we never get to that point.

 
 
 
Dowser
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Absolutely, Bob!

 
 
 
Dowser
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Funny!!! 24.gif 24.gif 24.gif

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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Unmasked!!

 
 
 
Dowser
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I don't know that we'll be able to actually meet them, face to face, (after all, it's hard to shake hands with a paramecium), but to know that something exists would be wonderful! Grin.gif

 
 
 
MalamuteMan
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link   MalamuteMan    10 years ago

...to know that something exists would be wonderful!

Well... I won't dispute that, Dowser... But I would be very interested to know WHY it would be wonderful.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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Unmasked!!

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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Pretty good book by Stephanie Meyer (better known for the "Twilight" series): The Host.

 
 
 
Dowser
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I will have to look for it!

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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Dowser
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Maybe it would give us a whole new perspective on our own problems... Maybe not, too.

I would think it would lead to greater speculation about a lot of things! Maybe we could all take a broader view, and not be so nasty to one another. (hope never dies...) Smile.gif

 
 
 
Dowser
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Have you ever watched that program on the History Channel, about Aliens among us? I watched it all one afternoon, just to watch the man with the weird hair. They make some incredible claims...

 
 
 
MalamuteMan
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...hope never dies...

BRAVO to that!!!

 
 
 
Dowser
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Grin.gif

Without hope for a better world, somehow, there is no point. And the world, with all of its problems, IS getting a bit better...

I was thinking about this the other day... Grandma told me of two little girls that were sold to the circus-- and no one ever tried to find them, or look for them, or did anything to bring them home. In today's world, that wouldn't happen! So, maybe things aren't great, but they surely could be worse!

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
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link   FLYNAVY1    10 years ago

One of my all time favorite novels is "The Andromeda Strain" by Michael Crichton.

A couple of points from that book that are relevant to this discussion. It is quite possible that all life on this planet is descendant from an asteroid laden with microbial life from hundreds of millions of years ago. In short we are related to the alien life we are looking to find, or might find us.

A second point from the book, when we find life, are we sure we are going to recognize it? Even today, astrobiologists are having a bitch of a time coming up with an all encompassing definition that will allow us to recognize life. In short, how do you study, or look for something you don't recognize as being alive?

  • Are viruses alive? Not by strict definition because they can't reproduce themselves.
  • All life here on Earth is based upon carbon, yet we are attempting to develop artificial intelligence through the application of silicon. Why couldn't another life-form be silicon based?
  • Are mountains alive? They could be, but since their life-spans are so great, their movements and bodily functions move at such a pace we can't measure them let alone recognize them.
  • Is the the phosphorus paint on a watch face alive? It stores energy and releases it.
  • A black piece of cloth held up to a light gets warm. Is conversion of light into heat a sign of life? Its converting energy isn't it?
  • Lets say an alien species does visit us, and comes across a small summer house that has a bag of corn seed sitting on top of a refrigerator. The aliens might decide that the refrigerator is the basic form of life on this planet as it is taking in energy, and maintaining it's internal temperature, while the seeds are of no value as they look for all intensive purposes to be inert and lifeless. Yet we know differently.

Again, when it comes to life, how are we going to know it "is life" if we can't recognize it?

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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link   Robert in Ohio    10 years ago

Dowser

A interesting and entertaining series on the History Channel

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Buzz of the Orient
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link   Buzz of the Orient    10 years ago

The Andromeda Strain wasn't a bad movie either - "There's a fire!" Of course there are many speculative movies, like "Contact", or even War of the Worlds, or The Day the Earth Stood Still, etc. (too many to mention)

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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There is a story called "To Serve Man". I think McDonald's is their agent.

 
 
 
Dowser
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LOL!!!

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FLYNAVY1
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The movie was good, but the book was one of those that I couldn't put down. I read it about every three to four years. Considering it was written back in the late 1960s, the technical information Crichton brought forth is still as relevant as ever.

 
 
 
Dowser
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That guy with the weird hair is soooo annoying!

Oh well, it was good for a lot of laughs! Smile.gif

 
 
 
Dowser
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Yep, that's the one!

I think it's interesting and entertaining-- if a bit over the top! Smile.gif

 
 
 
Dowser
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I do understand that...

 
 
 
Dowser
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Yes, they have.

But I think this article is real... I don't think they're looking for someone that came here, just microbial life... There IS a big difference.

 
 
 
Dowser
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Great movie!

We just watched "Interstellar", and that's a great movie, too!

 
 
 
Dowser
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Good points, FLY! Grin.gif

 
 
 
Dowser
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LOL!

Wasn't that on the Twilight Zone? Or, was it Outer Limits?

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
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link   FLYNAVY1    10 years ago

I saw it too. Was anything but a feel good movie wasn't it.

Makes you think...... water levels in California?

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
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link   FLYNAVY1    10 years ago

The Outer Limits.... I remember the episode well.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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link   Perrie Halpern R.A.    10 years ago

Hate to correct you Fly, but it was the Twilight Zone:

Damn you John! You beat me to it!

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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Hate to correct you Fly, but it was the Twilight Zone

Yes... But before that, it was a short story by Damon Knight, in Galaxy SF, in 1950.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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link   Bob Nelson    10 years ago

Ancient Aliens theories have been debunked...

Since when does getting debunked prevent a theory from being repeated? (That's as close to politics as I'll go...)

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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link   Perrie Halpern R.A.    10 years ago

Thanks for the info Bob. I actually thought it was Richard Matheson, but you are right!

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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link   Bob Nelson    10 years ago

I'm older than you ... I was around in 1950. Not reading either author yet, though.

:-((

 
 
 
Nowhere Man
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link   Nowhere Man    10 years ago

DAMN, I have GOT to get the TV Group running....

I have both series the Twilight Zone and The Outer Limits......

"To Serve Man" A Twilight Zone episode from the first series, Season 3 Episode 24, Aired; March 2nd 1962 on CBS.

Wasn't it wonderful how everyone just accepted the aliens help without question?

Old Indian adage, beware strangers bearing gifts, particularly if the gift is a cookbook....

Not enough hours in the day...

 
 

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