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Abortion Has Killed More Black Americans Than Crime, Accidents, Cancer or AIDS

  

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Via:  sixpick  •  7 years ago  •  123 comments

Abortion Has Killed More Black Americans Than Crime, Accidents, Cancer or AIDS

This week Right to Life of Michigan launched a new website that exposes the massive amount of abortions taking place on African American babies in their state. The pro-life gr o up reports that Black women had 13,065 (49.6 %) of the 26,321 abortions performed on Michigan residents in 2014.


Their website explains, “In the United States, the abortion rate for black women is almost 4 times that of white women. On average, 870 black babies are aborted every day in the United States. This tragedy continues to impact the population levels of African-Americans in the United States. The abortion racial disparity holds true when the focus is on Michigan statistics as well.”

In announcing the new web page, Right to Life of Michigan said, “More than crime. More than accidents. More than cancer, heart disease and AIDS. Abortion has taken more black American lives than any other cause of death since 1973.”

“Did you know that? Abortion is the leading cause of death in the United States, but for black Americans abortion causes more deaths every year than every other cause of death combined. Now is the time for this fact to be addressed in the media and in the classroom,” it added.

It concluded: “This week Right to Life of Michigan has launched a new webpage to provide information and statistics on abortions in the black community to help encourage dialogue. The webpage also features a beautiful new full-color brochure that can be downloaded and printed for free, as well as links to our Compassion Project ads and contact information for Right to Life of Michigan’s Multicultural Outreach Office.”

As LifeNews previously reported, the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) released its national abortion report last year and the new statistics reveal that Michigan is one of ten states in the U.S. that perform the most abortions on minority women. Unfortunately, every year in Michigan over 10,000 African American babies die in abortion as well as nearly a thousand Hispanic babies.

According to the Census Bureau, Blacks and Hispanics comprise only 13.2% and 17.1% of the population respectively yet account for the most abortions. In fact, abortion ends the life of more African Americans than all other causes of death combined, including accidents, cancer, AIDS and violent crimes. These new statistics confirm a pattern that has been going on for years: the abortion industry, specifically Planned Parenthood, targets minority women.

In the media, Planned Parenthood is praised for being “diverse”, but 79% of all their abortion facilities are located near minority neighborhoods. There is no way that’s simply “coincidental.” Since 1973, approximately 13 million black babies have been lost because of abortion, and out of the approximately 4000 abortions that are performed daily in the United States, 1452 of them are performed on African American women and their unborn children.

In 2014, Alveda King, the niece of Martin Luther King Jr., addressed abortion and racism. King said, “Right now in America almost half of our babies are being killed in the womb, and in certain parts of America more of our babies are being aborted than being born. While we were marching in the sixties, a place was being prepared for us at Planned Parenthood. We were trying to get off the back of the bus, and they were going to have a space for us in the front of the abortion mill.”

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sixpick
Professor Quiet
1  seeder  sixpick    7 years ago

I know I will be attacked for putting this article on here with people saying you complain how you see so many mothers walking around with so many children and no fathers, but it is true.  Is this the solution, abort them or have them overpopulate without having to take any responsibility for their actions.

People lose all sense of self worth if they never have to take responsibility for themselves and their family.  I don't want a bunch of children running around with no support from fathers and mothers on the welfare system.  What I can' t understand is why I should be criticized after making the suggestion people need to take responsibility for themselves and their families.  I don't want to pay for someone else children. 

I understand in some cases it just works out that way unavoidable, but self esteem comes from taking responsibility for oneself and real self esteem comes from taking care of ones family.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
1.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  sixpick @1    7 years ago

"Abortion Has Killed More Black Americans Than Crime, Accidents, Cancer or AIDS"

The fact is that fertilized eggs, zygotes and fetuses skin looks pink in color, though technically it's translucent. 92% of all abortions occur prior to 12 weeks so the numbers in the ridiculous article you seed is completely bogus, very few "babies" (those who reach the stage of viability) are aborted as that would only be to save the life of the mother, so very few "black" Americans are actually killed by abortion.

 

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
Junior Quiet
1.1.1  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1    7 years ago
"Abortion Has Killed More Black Americans Than Crime, Accidents, Cancer or AIDS"

Just to highlight the racism of that comment it needs to be pointed out that when they not using blacks to attack abortion they're attacking blacks for having too many pregnancies.  I'm glad that these people completely lack self-awareness.  Otherwise it'd be no fun point out when shit-eating hypocrites they are. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1    7 years ago

How many times does this 'tired old chestnut' have to be trotted out?  These lies?  Alveda King should not trot out her nonsense - riding on the laurels of a great man.  That ignorant bitch should be ashamed of herself.  

 
 
 
mocowgirl
Professor Silent
1.2  mocowgirl  replied to  sixpick @1    7 years ago
People lose all sense of self worth if they never have to take responsibility for themselves and their family.

The entire key to society is EDUCATION on all levels to help everyone achieve their potential - and that includes WOMEN.

This morning, I received an interesting article via email about helping women in Africa achieve access to better financial education in order to achieve access to better health services.

It is interesting that the International Financial Community is seeing the potential returns of educating women in Africa while the religious zealots in the US prefer their women shamed, uneducated and subservient.

Raising the region’s financial literacy will be another challenge. The ability to understand and execute matters of personal finance is the weakest link in transforming women’s opportunities through financial inclusion. Moreover, financial literacy is a pre-requisite for the rollout of   financing initiatives , such as programs that support women-led small and micro-enterprises.

If financial literacy levels can be raised, women can access resources such as land and credit, tools that hold the keys to business development, social mobility, and personal growth. Progress has been made in leveling the playing field, but these gains   must be sustained .

The agreement between the WHO and the ITU will help promote wealth creation in parts of Africa where access to health care and financial services is lacking. To maintain this momentum, deeper commitments are needed, especially from the global health community. But, however African governments proceed in digitizing their health and financial services offerings, women’s needs must remain at the center of any solution.

 
 
 
Rhyferys
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2  Rhyferys    7 years ago

Abortion is not an accident, it is not a disease, it is a mother and her Dr making a medical and family decision. It has absolutely nothing to do with any of your other "comparisons". If you wish this to change, make an effort to financially support poor African-Americans and supply them with decent healthcare. You could also make an effort to reduce the racism in America:

Of course, I know that republicans are not  interested in improving the lives of African-Americans, or doing anything about racism, you are only interested in punishing them, which is why this continues.

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Guide
2.1  Gordy327  replied to  Rhyferys @2    7 years ago
Abortion is not an accident, it is not a disease, it is a mother and her Dr making a medical and family decision. It has absolutely nothing to do with any of your other "comparisons".

Indeed. It should be noted that no one is forced to have an abortion. A woman chooses to have one. So complaints about certain groups having a larger percentage of total abortions is irrelevant. It just means that more women within certain groups are choosing to have an abortion. That is their right.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  Gordy327 @2.1    7 years ago

I also question the number of black folks having more abortions.  I question everything about this piece.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
3  XXJefferson51    7 years ago

This was the primary goal of planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger. She was into killing black babies and eugenics.  The placement of her clinics in proximity to minority neighborhoods was no accident.  

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Guide
3.1  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3    7 years ago
This was the primary goal of planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger. She was into killing black babies and eugenics.

That statement shows a profound ignorance about Margaret Sanger.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
3.1.1  XXJefferson51  replied to  Gordy327 @3.1    7 years ago

No, it doesn’t.  She was as blatant a racist as anyone in her time.  She clearly believed African Americans to be inferior and felt eugenics was a way to deal with her “issue”.  

 
 
 
GaJenn78
Sophomore Silent
3.1.2  GaJenn78  replied to  Gordy327 @3.1    7 years ago

How so? I did a paper on her for a legal and ethics class I am taking.....please cite where he is wrong.

 
 
 
GaJenn78
Sophomore Silent
3.1.3  GaJenn78  replied to  GaJenn78 @3.1.2    7 years ago

Do tell.... I can cite all that I wrote my paper on.... they are not wrong. She was a big asshole. Granted she did great things for the womens movement, but as far a PP is concerned, they are correct....

 
 
 
Rhyferys
Freshman Silent
3.1.4  Rhyferys  replied to  Gordy327 @3.1    7 years ago
That statement shows a profound ignorance about Margaret Sanger.

It's not ignorance, that can be cured. It's deliberate lying, and it's constant from abortion foes, just like the claim that abortion is related to breast cancer. They seem to feel that bearing false witness is OK when they do it.

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Guide
3.1.5  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.1    7 years ago
No, it doesn’t.

Yes, it does!

She was as blatant a racist as anyone in her time. She clearly believed African Americans to be inferior and felt eugenics was a way to deal with her “issue”.

You just reinforced my statement.

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Guide
3.1.6  Gordy327  replied to  GaJenn78 @3.1.3    7 years ago
Do tell.... I can cite all that I wrote my paper on.... they are not wrong.

Go right ahead. I'll cite this particular source about Ms. Sanger. (Credit to fellow NT user Skrekk for initially finding and citing this source in another article ). According to Skrekk, "This link has a good summary of the facts in their historical context, a time when eugenics was widely supported but contraceptive devices were generally prohibited."

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
3.1.7  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  GaJenn78 @3.1.3    7 years ago

Sanger did not tolerate bigotry among her staff, nor would she tolerate any refusal to work within interracial projects. [80] Sanger's work with minorities earned praise from Martin Luther King, Jr. , in his 1966 acceptance speech for the Margaret Sanger award . [81]

From 1939 to 1942 Sanger was an honorary delegate of the Birth Control Federation of America, which included a supervisory role—alongside Mary Lasker and Clarence Gamble —in the Negro Project, an effort to deliver birth control to poor black people. [82] Sanger, over the objections of other supervisors, wanted the Negro Project to hire black ministers in leadership roles. To emphasize the benefits of hiring black community leaders to act as spokesmen, she wrote to Gamble:

We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.

New York University's Margaret Sanger Papers Project says that though the letter would have been meant to avoid the mistaken notion that the Negro Project was a racist campaign, conspiracy theorists have fraudulently attempted to exploit the quotation "as evidence she led a calculated effort to reduce the black population against their will.

If you take some of her statements out of context she can certainly be made into the racist devil many conservatives want to paint her as. But the facts are very different. She wanted nothing more than to help women in poverty to have control over their bodies so they didn't continue these cycles of poverty where poor women were forced to bear children before they could get a proper education, train in life skills and rise up out of poverty. The reality was that the majority of black Americans lived in poverty and had been kept down by the white establishment for hundreds of years. Sanger was a visionary who saw that giving black women more control over their bodies meant more control over their futures which is why she earned praise from many black leaders such as Martin Luther King, Jr.

Sadly, poorly educated conservatives today have trouble with reading comprehension and context, so it's no wonder they continue to malign and attack her legacy. Conservatives also have the ulterior motive of a false narrative about the founder of planned parenthood being racist as it deflects from how white conservatives actually treated the black community for the last three hundred years and plays into their faux self-righteous anti-abortion stance.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
3.1.8  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.1.7    7 years ago

Right, her Birth Control Review published articles like "Eugenic Sterilization: An Urgent Need" by Ernst Rudin, Hitler's Director of Sterilization, but  she only wanted to "help women control their bodies"

Somrone who "just wants to help women control their bodies" offers the author of this statement a place on the Board of Directors of the American Birth Control League:

"Just as we isolate bacterial invasions, and starve out the bacteria, by limiting the area and amount of their food supply, so we can compel an inferior race to remain in it's native land" from The Rising Tide of Color Against White World Supremacy.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
3.1.9  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.1.7    7 years ago
o emphasize the benefits of hiring black community leaders to act as spokesmen, she wrote to Gamble

Funny how you left out the part where she spelled out her intent:

"The mass of significant Negroes, still breed carelessly and disastrously with the result that the increase among Negroes is in that portion of the population least intelligent." She knew what she was doing was wrong, which is why she told her collaborators to make sure word doesn't get out that she was trying to keep Negroes from breeding.  

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
3.1.10  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.1.9    7 years ago

Like I said "If you take some of her statements out of context she can certainly be made into the racist devil many conservatives want to paint her as." Looking at the totality of her work would lead others to believe she was fighting for the rights of women and to help black women rise out of poverty by having control over their own bodies. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.1.11  Tessylo  replied to  Gordy327 @3.1    7 years ago
That statement shows a profound ignorance about Margaret Sanger.

Indeed, I get so tired of the lies about Margaret Sanger.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.1.12  Tessylo  replied to  Rhyferys @3.1.4    7 years ago
It's deliberate lying, and it's constant from abortion foes

Like I said above, how many times are the liars going to trot out these lies about Sanger?  Again, again, and again, and again!

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
Junior Quiet
3.2  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3    7 years ago
She was into killing black babies and eugenics.

That old racist slander of Sanger always seems to get trotted out when the racists that push it seem up against their racist wall.  Sanger worked hard to get KKK women on board with birth control, too, so I guess she was an anti-white scumbag racist as well. 

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
4  devangelical    7 years ago

A drop in the bucket compared to the thumper death tolls if they continue to attempt imposing their religion on others and restricting freedom of choice.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
4.2  XXJefferson51  replied to  devangelical @4    7 years ago

Sounds like another death 💀 wishing type of post to me directed at Christian believers.  There’s over a million abortions a year and that’s a drop in the bucket compared to what you said?  

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
4.2.1  devangelical  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.2    7 years ago

How about a compromise? Prohibit abortions for white women only. After all, that's the basis for the white supremacist religious cult that is most vocal about the decades old previously settled SCOTUS case. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
4.2.2  Split Personality  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.2    7 years ago

Abortion Surveillance 2014
In 2014, 652,639 legal induced abortions were reported to CDC from 49 reporting areas. The abortion rate for 2014 was 12.1 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years, and the abortion ratio was 186 abortions per 1,000 live births.
Compared with 2013, the total number and rate of reported abortions for 2014 decreased 2%, and the ratio decreased 7%. Additionally, from 2005 to 2014, the number, rate, and ratio of reported abortions decreased 21%, 22%, and 22%, respectively. In 2014, all three measures reached their lowest level for the entire period of analysis (2005—2014).
Women in their twenties accounted for the majority of abortions in 2014 and throughout the period of analysis. The majority of abortions in 2014 took place early in gestation: 91.5% of abortions were performed at ≤13 weeks’ gestation; a smaller number of abortions (7.2%) were performed at 14–20 weeks’ gestation, and even fewer (1.3%) were performed at ≥21 weeks’ gestation. In 2014, 22.6% of all abortions were early medical abortions. The percentage of abortions reported as early medical abortions increased 110% from 2005 to 2014, with a 1% increase from 2013 to 2014. Source: Abortion Surveillance — United States, 2014 Surveillance Summaries, November 24, 2017, 66(24);1–48, MMWR.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
4.3  XXJefferson51  replied to  devangelical @4    7 years ago

So how are we going to die and at whose hands if we promote laws having something to do with our religious beliefs and continue to oppose abortion or any participation in same sex marriages?  What did you mean by Bible Thumper death tolls?  

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
4.3.1  devangelical  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.3    7 years ago

Who cares.

Americans that place the Constitution over the bible.

History repeating itself whenever crusaders place a cross in one hand and a weapon in the other.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
Junior Quiet
4.3.2  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.3    7 years ago
So how are we going to die and at whose hands if we promote laws having something to do with our religious beliefs and continue to oppose abortion or any participation in same sex marriages?

Simple.  Against abortion?  Don't have one.  Don't approve of same-sex marriages?  Don't enter one.  

 
 
 
Rmando
Sophomore Silent
5  Rmando    7 years ago

These numbers are the reason why when people talking about America becoming more diverse they really mean Latinos and Asians. All the projections about changing demographics for the next few decades I've seen still show black Americans at 13% of the population.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
6  Ozzwald    7 years ago

Pretty sure they would have to be considered immigrants.  I believe you have to be born in America before you can be deemed an American.  Someone can also answer the question of whether zygotes have skin at all, let alone if it has any pigmentation.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
7  Sean Treacy    7 years ago

Margaret Sanger nods approvingly, and says, "if only the dirty Catholics would follow suit, we'd have the WASP nirvana Planned Parenthood was designed to create".....

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
8  Hal A. Lujah    7 years ago

Abortion Has Killed More Black Americans Than Crime, Accidents, Cancer or AIDS

Now a fetus isn't just a baby, but an American baby?  Abortion is the termination of a fetus, not the killing of an American baby.  Killing an actual baby of any nationality is a crime.  Can you provide a statistic for how many American babies have been deliberately killed?  I'd bet that it's less than all forms of crime, accidents, caner or AIDS.

 
 
 
It Is ME
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8.1  It Is ME  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @8    7 years ago

BETTER TO SAVE A TREE !   winking

I'm a BAAAAD person.....I've mowed down a bunch of saplings in my day. Hanging loose

This one is my FAV ! :

Tree Saving.JPG

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
8.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @8    7 years ago

Abortion is the termination of a fetus, not the killing of an American baby. 

Sure, however you get through the day. Just  pretend it's not a baby like nazis pretended Jews weren't humans.  You have to dehumanize what you slaughter. 

You don't ask a mother "when is the fetus due?" and a mother doesn't say things like " I was up all night because the fetus was kicking."  We all understand through the language we use that it is, in fact, a baby. 

 
 
 
mocowgirl
Professor Silent
8.2.1  mocowgirl  replied to  Sean Treacy @8.2    7 years ago
Just  pretend it's not a baby like

forced birthers pretend women are incubators instead of human beings with rights to make their own reproductive decisions.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
8.2.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @8.2    7 years ago

Let's say that abortion is made completely illegal and the abortion rate is cut in half because of it. 

We would have illegal abortion mills popping up all over the place because women would still get abortions. It is not going to stop because it is illegal. Abortions have been going on from time immemorial. 

Who is going to care for all these kids, that the mother and or mother and father cannot take care of? Are we going to have 'entitlements' for them?

Are we going to put women who have illegal abortions into prison?

You cannot force someone to have a baby. Yes, some will because they will feel compelled to then,  but many won't.  They will have back alley abortions. 

The country has decided de facto on a compromise position on abortion. It is permitted until the fetus reaches viability outside the mother. This is the best we can do. Let it go at that point. 

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Guide
8.2.3  Gordy327  replied to  Sean Treacy @8.2    7 years ago

Nice appeals to emotion. Of course, that seems to be all you have. You certainly have nothing which proves Hal wrong.

 
 
 
Rmando
Sophomore Silent
8.2.4  Rmando  replied to  mocowgirl @8.2.1    7 years ago

Actually the women choose to take the chance to become "incubators" whenever they decide to engage in the "incubation" process.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
8.2.5  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Sean Treacy @8.2    7 years ago

"when is the fetus due?"

That doesn't even make sense.  If a woman has a fetus, it's no longer due, it has arrived right where it is supposed to be.  When it comes out, it is then a baby.  It is therefore entirely accurate to ask when a baby is due.

As far as a kicking goes, any pregnant woman who is not considering termination can call it whatever she wants, regardless of the fact that it is a fetus in reality.  If she is considering termination, then she should probably use the correct terminology.  It's not like women aren't making a tough decision when they decide to terminate a pregnancy.  In this country, that is their decision to make.  I get through my days just fine knowing that.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
8.2.6  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Rmando @8.2.4    7 years ago

Do rape victims decide when it's time to get raped?  Do parents decide when to create a severely mentally retarded baby?  Do 12 year old incest victims decide when it's time to have their step dad's baby?

 
 
 
Rmando
Sophomore Silent
8.2.7  Rmando  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @8.2.6    7 years ago

And what percentage of abortions are those?? Does the concept of personal responsibility offend you to the point you need to find extreme examples?

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
8.2.8  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Rmando @8.2.7    7 years ago

Does it matter what the percentage is, when your position is that it should be illegal?  If you make an exception for rape, incest, and health of the mother, then you're going to end up clogging up courts with women attempting to prove those conditions, thereby prolonging the action you are trying to stem.  The law is exactly as it should be the way it is written.  If you don't want one, don't get one.  If you want to spend your life calling women irresponsible sluts, that is your option.  It's not helping your image, however.

 
 
 
Rmando
Sophomore Silent
8.2.9  Rmando  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @8.2.8    7 years ago

I personally don't care if a woman gets an abortion or not. If the mother is going to be terrible and doesn't want the kid then abortion is probably for the best. I just don't think pro choicers should get off so cheaply pretending there's no ethical questions about abortion at all.

 
 
 
mocowgirl
Professor Silent
8.2.10  mocowgirl  replied to  Rmando @8.2.4    7 years ago
Actually the women choose to take the chance to become "incubators" whenever they decide to engage in the "incubation" process.

Sex is usually for recreation instead of procreation.

Having consensual sex is not an agreement to incubate a man's sperm unless the woman chooses to do so.

 
 
 
Skrekk
Sophomore Participates
8.2.12  Skrekk  replied to  Rmando @8.2.9    7 years ago
I just don't think pro choicers should get off so cheaply pretending there's no ethical questions about abortion at all.

Any "ethical questions" are merely a personal matter for the pregnant women.    For many women there's no issue at all.

 
 
 
mocowgirl
Professor Silent
8.2.13  mocowgirl  replied to  Release The Kraken @8.2.11    7 years ago
I don't really enjoy it because I am forced to have it so often.

Maybe you just need more friends.  Most men have buddies who will help them out when situations like this happen.

 
 
 
Rmando
Sophomore Silent
8.2.15  Rmando  replied to  mocowgirl @8.2.10    7 years ago

Sex is about whatever nature decides it's about. If nobody takes any steps to avoid pregnancy then it becomes about reproduction.

What a better place the world would be if they understood "recreation" and "procreation" are often the same thing.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
8.2.16  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @8.2.2    7 years ago
ntry has decided de facto on a compromise position on abortion. It is permitted until the fetus reaches viability outside the mother

That's simply false. Full term abortion is completely legal, so long as the mom says she'd feel better with a dead baby. Whatver talkiing points you've read, there's been compromise in the real world and the viability of the baby is irrelevant, legally. We've had abortion on demand for 40 some years, claiming anything else is simply false. 

. A completely  healthy, viable baby can have it's head stabbed with scissors if it's just a couple centimeters from delivery. That's not a compromise. 

Babies are now viable at 21 weeks.  What do you think will happen if Utah passes an abortion ban at 21 weeks?  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
8.2.17  Sean Treacy  replied to  Gordy327 @8.2.3    7 years ago

The English language does. In common parlance, we call a baby in the womb, a baby.  To claim it's not properly called  a baby is simply a lie and gross mischaracterization of the English language. 

Again, it's clear why the pro abortionists have an Orwellian  need  need to sanitize the language . Very few people are honest enough to admit they favor the right to kill babies. 

It's just amusing to watch pro abortionists asctibe magical powers to expectant mothers. It's a baby until it magically becomes a "fetus" that can be chpped up and sold for parts even though it's capable of licing outside the womb because the mom had a bad day. But in liberal paradises like California, the law recognizes that a random person can be charged with murder for shooting and killing the baby on the way to the abortion factory.  The legal status changes on a whim. That's magic not reason or science. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
8.2.18  Sean Treacy  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @8.2.5    7 years ago
o ask when a baby is due.

It's THE baby, which means its already a baby.

Are you that desperate that you are now arguing that we don't call commonly call it a baby when it's in the womb?  That's just sad. 

 
 
 
Skrekk
Sophomore Participates
8.2.19  Skrekk  replied to  Sean Treacy @8.2.16    7 years ago
Full term abortion is completely legal, so long as the mom says she'd feel better with a dead baby.

LOL.   Some folks are incredibly gullible.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
8.2.20  Sean Treacy  replied to  Skrekk @8.2.19    7 years ago

Yes, those who think there are any meaningful restrictions on abortion in this country are silly. 

 
 
 
Skrekk
Sophomore Participates
8.2.21  Skrekk  replied to  Sean Treacy @8.2.20    7 years ago

Apparently anti-abortion extremists don't know what the laws in this country actually are.    Hyperbole is more important to such people than facts.

Funny too that they think women will carry a fetus nearly to term and then abort it on a whim.

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Guide
8.2.22  Gordy327  replied to  Sean Treacy @8.2.16    7 years ago

What's simply false is your entire post. It sounds just like disingenuous pro-life propaganda.

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Guide
8.2.23  Gordy327  replied to  Sean Treacy @8.2.17    7 years ago

A fetus is the correct medical and scientific term. Calling a fetus a baby is simply layman's terminology, but otherwise inaccurate. 

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Guide
8.2.24  Gordy327  replied to  Sean Treacy @8.2.18    7 years ago

What's sad is that you don't seem to understand the difference between a fetus and a baby. 

 
 
 
mocowgirl
Professor Silent
8.2.25  mocowgirl  replied to  Rmando @8.2.15    7 years ago
What a better place the world would be if they understood "recreation" and "procreation" are often the same thing.

What a better place the world would be if everyone had comprehensive education on human sexuality and birth control, and birth control was freely available throughout society.

 
 
 
Rhyferys
Freshman Silent
8.2.26  Rhyferys  replied to  Rmando @8.2.7    7 years ago
Does the concept of personal responsibility offend you to the point you need to find extreme examples?

Personal responsibility is what leads some women to choose abortion.

 
 
 
Rhyferys
Freshman Silent
8.2.27  Rhyferys  replied to  Sean Treacy @8.2.16    7 years ago
That's simply false. Full term abortion is completely legal, so long as the mom says she'd feel better with a dead baby. Whatver talkiing points you've read, there's been compromise in the real world and the viability of the baby is irrelevant, legally. We've had abortion on demand for 40 some years, claiming anything else is simply false.

I tried to find another way to say this, but I can't. You are lying.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
8.2.28  Tessylo  replied to  Rmando @8.2.15    7 years ago
"What a better place the world would be if they understood "recreation" and "procreation" are often the same thing."

What a wonderful place the world would be if others wouldn't police other people's bedrooms and understood that sex can be for pleasure - GASP!  Birth control fails.  Some folks actually enjoy sex - GASP!  Stop being such prudes and go get laid for pleasure and use birth control!!!!!!!!!

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
8.2.29  Tessylo  replied to  mocowgirl @8.2.25    7 years ago
"What a better place the world would be if everyone had comprehensive education on human sexuality and birth control, and birth control was freely available throughout society."

Kudos!

Some people can be such fucking idiots - they rail against abortion and birth control.  DUH!

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
Professor Quiet
8.2.30  Dean Moriarty  replied to  Tessylo @8.2.28    7 years ago

Stop policing the bedrooms and have sex!

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lennylynx
Sophomore Quiet
8.2.31  lennylynx  replied to  Dean Moriarty @8.2.30    7 years ago

Great advice, Dean, but your suggested  'swallow' method of birth control was pure genius! Happy

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
8.2.32  Sean Treacy  replied to  Rhyferys @8.2.27    7 years ago

I have to say how much I admire the non-progressives who were able to wade through the wildly aggressive ignorance  that permeated the progressive dominated NV. I lasted about two days and was simply disgusted by how the liberal block there was not just uninformed, yet almost proud of little they knew in refusal to deal in facts. They debated  like a pre -schooler deprived of his nap, a ugly combination of unearned confidence,  lack of education, and  petulance.

NT had a few practitioners of those skills, but now the virus has spread. Calling someone a liar, without being able to prove it, is the perfect example of the sort of bad faith that ruins a discussion site.  I shouldn’t bother to waste my time on someone whose demonstrated such a limited capacity for reason, but I am nothing, if not optimistic that others on the site will understand this, even if you like some of the others here think cutting and pasting from Wikipedia sections you don’t understand passes for informed debate.

So school is in session. Take notes, and get a dictionary. I’ll try and keep it simple for you, but rest assured, everything I say is supported by the Supreme Court. The operative case on restricting abortion is not Roe v. Wade, but it’s companion, Doe v. Bolton. In Doe, the Court held that a state cannot restrict abortion if it’s against the well being of a patient relative to her physical, emotional, psychological, familial ,or  her age.

Guess who signs off on that?

The abortionist with a financial stake in performing an abortion. It makes prosecution impossible, the abortionist simply has to say, in his medical opinion, terminating the baby is in the best interests of the mother’s emotional health. As an abortionist testified to Congress, pregnancy itself is a significant health risk.  It’s therefore impossible to ban abortion on viable humans, in practice.

I’m sure  I need to spell that out for you. This takes next level thinking beyond cutting and pasting Wikipedia to understand how Roe and it’s progeny operate in practice. What Roe says about the state’s right to restrict abortion after the first trimester has been ignored by the Courts. The exceptions set forth in Doe swallow the rule. The broadly defined health exception makes any ban on viable abortions impossible. In Casey, the Court explicitly renounced any idea that that the trimester approach had any continuing validity.   Despite what Casey said about Roe, favorable news media still quotes Roe’s language on early vs late term abortions as if it had legal relevance.

By all means, show me a Supreme Court ruling that's allowed a state to ban abortions after viability. If you can't, that makes you a liar. 

 
 
 
Rhyferys
Freshman Silent
8.2.33  Rhyferys  replied to  Sean Treacy @8.2.32    7 years ago

Your own post shows you are a liar.

In Doe, the Court held that a state cannot restrict abortion if it’s against the well being of a patient relative to her physical, emotional, psychological, familial ,or  her age.

They can restrict if these parameters are not met. It is simply moral not to force a woman to bear a child that will cause her harm, and yes, if you would ever bother to look at statistics, bearing a child is much more dangerous for the mother then an abortion. What are you gaining by forcing the mother to give birth to a child that kills her? So, there are restrictions, you simply don't feel that they are enough. You have a perfect right to complain, but not to lie.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
9  Hal A. Lujah    7 years ago

I was listening to a lecture series on the brain the other day, and learned some interesting facts.  A newborn's brain will triple in size over the first year, and then will only grow another 15% max throughout the rest of its life.  That is the reality of how underdeveloped human babies are.

One would think that evolution would have increased the size of women's hips to pass a more developed fetus, but no.  The explanation does not lie in an evolutionary inadequacy, it has more to do with the caloric and nutritional demands that a fetus requires of the mother.  Unlike other life forms, like an elephant, a human simply can no longer support these demands by the time the fetus reaches nine months of growth, so it has to come out like it or not.  Some animals with longer gestational periods have offspring that come out and start being mobile immediately, but humans have babies that are about as independent as a meatloaf.  Pro-lifers would have you believe that a fetus so small that it is barely detectable is just a miniature conversationalist.

I'm not a fan of abortion, but I am nauseated by the thought that a woman's body isn't hers to control.  In a perfect world, abortion would be safe, legal, and rare.  However, in a perfect world everyone would be also able to financially support themselves and their potential offspring.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
10  Kavika     7 years ago

Blacks this, blacks that. What the hell, is every other race perfect? I don't think so. Each have problems and crisis to deal with. As Americans wouldn't it be better (more Christian like) to do what we can to help any area of crisis. 

You might want to start in West Virginia, which has the highest (by far) rate of drug overdose deaths, and it's 94% white and 4% black. 

Pointing fingers is a great pass time but sometime that finger points right back at you.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
10.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Kavika @10    7 years ago

It's the opposite of pointing fingers, it pointing out a tragedy. 

 
 
 
lennylynx
Sophomore Quiet
10.1.1  lennylynx  replied to  Sean Treacy @10.1    7 years ago

How the hell are they opposite??  That doesn't even make sense.

 
 
 
mocowgirl
Professor Silent
10.1.2  mocowgirl  replied to  Sean Treacy @10.1    7 years ago
it pointing out a tragedy.

That black women are far more likely to live in poverty and have less access to safe, effective, reliable birth control?  That is true and definitely a tragedy.

That a significant amount of black children are born to and live in poverty in the US?  Why is that?  What is being done to address income equality for minority populations in the US so their children are not born into poverty?

 
 
 
Rmando
Sophomore Silent
10.1.3  Rmando  replied to  mocowgirl @10.1.2    7 years ago

What's being done to address "income inequality"? Off the top of my head there's discriminatory affirmative action programs that put everyone else at a disadvantage.

A better question is when do we stop the "out of wedlock birth rate inequality". 75% of black babies are born with no father around. Fix that problem and a lot of other ones will solve themselves.

 
 
 
mocowgirl
Professor Silent
10.1.4  mocowgirl  replied to  Rmando @10.1.3    7 years ago
75% of black babies are born with no father around.

Sex education, access to birth control, general education with career path would be highly beneficial to assist young people to make better life choices throughout their lives.

Actual stats ....

Women of Asian descent had the lowest proportion of births to unmarried women (12%), followed by whites (28.4%), Native Hawaiians and Pacific Islanders (47.7%), American Indian or Alaska Natives (68.1%) and blacks (69.7%).

Among Latinas, 52.5% of births involved unmarried women.

 
 
 
Skrekk
Sophomore Participates
10.1.5  Skrekk  replied to  Sean Treacy @10.1    7 years ago
It's the opposite of pointing fingers, it pointing out a tragedy.

The only "tragedy" here is when folks have kids they can't afford.     If you want to decrease the abortion rate then you need to figure out how to increase the contraception rate.....but conservatives, the GOP and bible-babblers always try to do the exact opposite of that by decreasing access and availability of contraception, or by allowing employers to refuse to cover it under health insurance plans.

 
 
 
Rmando
Sophomore Silent
10.1.7  Rmando  replied to  mocowgirl @10.1.4    7 years ago

Actually there is a thing called "common sense"- and it doesn't require any corrupted bloated big govt programs.

 
 
 
Skrekk
Sophomore Participates
10.1.8  Skrekk  replied to  XDm9mm @10.1.6    7 years ago

Hell, they're cheap enough.  If she can't afford them, make sure the guy poking her is wearing a rubber!!

See how easy that is?  It's called responsibility.

Actually it's called counterfactual with a heavy dose of willful ignorance.   As a recent study in Colorado proves when contraceptives are covered under insurance or otherwise provided at no cost, usage goes way up and the abortion rate goes way down - particularly in the demographic most likely to use abortion.    The state cut the teen abortion rate almost in half.   Or to put it another way your prescriptive moralization doesn't even remotely jibe with reality.

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The program also saved the state $70 million so it was the fiscally responsible thing to do:

 
 
 
Capt. Cave Man
Freshman Silent
10.1.9  Capt. Cave Man  replied to  Skrekk @10.1.8    7 years ago
As a recent study in Colorado proves when contraceptives are covered under insurance or otherwise provided at no cost, usage goes way up and the abortion rate goes way down - particularly in the demographic most likely to use abortion.

That's bullshit, I'm not paying for some slut's condom.

 
 
 
Skrekk
Sophomore Participates
10.1.10  Skrekk  replied to  Capt. Cave Man @10.1.9    7 years ago
That's bullshit, I'm not paying for some slut's condom.

That's right, you'd prefer to pay an extra $70 million over the same time period to support the infants of low income teens.    Very smart move.

 
 
 
Skrekk
Sophomore Participates
10.1.12  Skrekk  replied to  XDm9mm @10.1.11    7 years ago

I like how conservatives always refer to women who have non-reproductive sex as sluts.

 
 
 
lennylynx
Sophomore Quiet
10.1.14  lennylynx  replied to  XDm9mm @10.1.13    7 years ago

Telling people to fuck off is a coc violation, 9mil, obey the coc! 

 
 
 
mocowgirl
Professor Silent
10.1.15  mocowgirl  replied to  Rmando @10.1.7    7 years ago
Actually there is a thing called "common sense"-

Actually there is a thing called erotophobia - a disease that makes some people inable to even discuss sex rationally.  Unfortunately, these folks try to keep other people as fearful and ignorant of human sexuality as they are.

Then there are the religious folks who view sexual activity as sinful for all kinds of reasons.  Religious indoctrination that teaches that sexual activity is sinful can cause erotophobia.

We need comprehensive sexual education in public schools to help our children understand human sexuality without religious shame and blame so they can make better choices that include using birth control religiously if they choose to have sex.

 
 
 
Skrekk
Sophomore Participates
10.1.16  Skrekk  replied to  XDm9mm @10.1.13    7 years ago

Sorry SFB....   YOU'RE the one who claimed shit about my moralization.  

Here's a hint.  I NEVER noted anything like that

So what exactly did you mean by "responsibility" and "sluts"?    That sure sounds like pointless and ineffective moralizing which is truly oblivious to the things which are actually effective at reducing the abortion rate.

 
 
 
Rmando
Sophomore Silent
10.1.17  Rmando  replied to  mocowgirl @10.1.15    7 years ago

A little shame might go a long way to self control. Having twelve year olds watch porn in the classroom isn't going to do much good.

 
 
 
mocowgirl
Professor Silent
10.1.18  mocowgirl  replied to  Rmando @10.1.17    7 years ago
A little shame might go a long way to self control.

Having sexual desire is part of human biology.  There is nothing shameful about it.

This is why it is imperative that children are taught human sexuality from a scientific perspective instead of a religious perspective.

 
 
 
mocowgirl
Professor Silent
10.1.19  mocowgirl  replied to  Rmando @10.1.17    7 years ago
Having twelve year olds watch porn in the classroom isn't going to do much good.

Schools do not show porn in classrooms.  What made you believe that they do?

No one, but especially teenagers,  should never learn about sex via watching pornography.  

 
 
 
Rhyferys
Freshman Silent
10.1.20  Rhyferys  replied to  Rmando @10.1.17    7 years ago
A little shame might go a long way to self control.

If you are ashamed of having sex, you are doing it wrong.

 
 
 
Old Hermit
Sophomore Silent
10.1.21  Old Hermit  replied to  Rhyferys @10.1.20    7 years ago

If you are ashamed of having sex, you are doing it wrong.

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Man, I really do miss date night every now and then. lol

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Guide
10.1.22  Gordy327  replied to  Rmando @10.1.17    7 years ago

Right, because women should be slut-shamed, is that it? And what class shows porn? 

 
 
 
Rmando
Sophomore Silent
10.2  Rmando  replied to  Kavika @10    7 years ago

You should get in touch with all the head liberal politicians and share your theory about not pointing out facts based on skin color. It seems that's all liberal politicians are capable of.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
10.2.1  Kavika   replied to  Rmando @10.2    7 years ago

Fact, WV has the highest drug overdose death rate in the country...94% White, so there is a fact for you. There you go, % and race. 

You should get in touch with all the head liberal politicians and share your theory about not pointing out facts based on skin color. It seems that's all liberal politicians are capable of.

Sad, if that all you got out of my first comment.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
10.2.3  Kavika   replied to  XDm9mm @10.2.2    7 years ago

Hi 9mm...Are you talking about the deaths (suicide) or the overall rate of usage.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
10.2.5  Kavika   replied to  XDm9mm @10.2.4    7 years ago

It isn't broken down that way 9mm....The sad part of this is that WV isn't a wealthy state and the death rate has grown since the last report in 2015. I think that you can expect it to keep growing, also in other states as well.

There are many articles on why the white working class are dying at a faster rate and also that life expectancy is actually lower the last two years. When compared to Europe we are moving in the wrong direction and they are experiencing longer life spans. 

Drug abuse seem to be playing a major role in all of this.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
10.2.7  Kavika   replied to  XDm9mm @10.2.6    7 years ago

I don't see the mines doing much. It's much cheaper to get coal from Wyoming and the mines that are doing something in WV are going more and more to automation.

Sadly, unless they, the miners, get training in another field I believe that nothing will change in WV. 

 
 
 
Capt. Cave Man
Freshman Silent
10.3  Capt. Cave Man  replied to  Kavika @10    7 years ago
You might want to start in West Virginia, which has the highest (by far) rate of drug overdose deaths, and it's 94% white and 4% black.

I don't suppose you could link a similar stat, but in per capita?

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
10.3.1  Kavika   replied to  Capt. Cave Man @10.3    7 years ago

No, I can't find one, but consider this the 589 deaths out of 629 in 2015 were white. Joe Manchin the senator from WV has published reports on how it's devastating WV. Consider this report was done in 2015 and each year the number of deaths have increased.

  

 
 
 
Capt. Cave Man
Freshman Silent
10.3.2  Capt. Cave Man  replied to  Kavika @10.3.1    7 years ago

The only reason I bring it up is "liberals" love to point out stats that show whites do far more of this or that, while not taking into consideration the extreme majority whites hold, so yeah, you might have 10 whites commit a crime, while being 70% of the population, and 9 blacks commit a crime while being 13% of the population... Usually whatever side is arguing a point will leave out the part that says 1 out of every 50 whites will commit a crime, vs. one out of every 4 blacks will commit a crime...

Those numbers are just for illustration, I'm not saying they apply to this case.

 
 
 
mocowgirl
Professor Silent
11  mocowgirl    7 years ago

Poverty is a leading cause of abortion...

  • Some 75% of abortion patients in 2014 were poor or low-income. Twenty-six percent of patients had incomes of 100–199% of the federal poverty level, and 49% had incomes of less than 100% of the federal poverty level ($15,730 for a family of two). * [ 6 ]
  • The reasons patients gave for having an abortion underscored their understanding of the responsibilities of parenthood and family life. The three most common reasons—each cited by three-fourths of patients—were concern for or responsibility to other individuals; the inability to afford raising a child; and the belief that having a baby would interfere with work, school or the ability to care for dependents. Half said they did not want to be a single parent or were having problems with their husband or partner.[ 7 ]

 
 
 
Capt. Cave Man
Freshman Silent
11.1  Capt. Cave Man  replied to  mocowgirl @11    7 years ago
Poverty is a leading cause of abortion...

Unfortunately, the poor are the most uneducated, and least responsible people in the U.S.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
11.1.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Capt. Cave Man @11.1    7 years ago
Unfortunately, the poor are the most uneducated, and least responsible people in the U.S.

That's like saying "Unfortunately, the poor don't have a lot of things or a lot of money". Of course those living in poverty won't be the most educated and be the most responsible, they're almost never even given a chance to succeed. Their opportunity window is miniscule while the children of the wealthy get to try as many times as they want without any fear of failing and falling into poverty, they have a huge safety net protecting them from ever getting close to rock bottom while those born into poverty are already there.

 
 
 
Capt. Cave Man
Freshman Silent
11.1.2  Capt. Cave Man  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @11.1.1    7 years ago

Ok, so we agree.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
11.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  mocowgirl @11    7 years ago
Poverty is a leading cause of abortion...

Very true, and racism, discrimination and segregation have been the leading cause of minority poverty in America since its founding. One of the key tools used for many Americans to rise out of poverty during the last century, the GI bill, is a good example of a great program that black Americans weren't able to take advantage of and thus got left behind once again due to racism and discrimination.

"Family wealth can take generations to build -- and confers advantages that grow over time. If your great-grandparents bought a home, chances are that your grandparents inherited at least some wealth from them. Which maybe means that your parents didn't have to take out loans to go to college and got a helping hand with a down payment for a house early in life in a neighborhood with top schools. Which means that you got a great public education instead of a lousy one, allowing you to get into a good college and set yourself up to confer advantages on your own kids. And so on.

There are lots of reasons that whites have so much more wealth than nonwhites. How the GI Bill played out is one of those reasons. Whites were able to use the government guaranteed housing loans that were a pillar of the bill to buy homes in the fast growing suburbs. Those homes subsequently rose greatly in value in coming decades, creating vast new household wealth for whites during the postwar era. 

But black veterans weren't able to make use of the housing provisions of the GI Bill for the most part. Banks generally wouldn't make loans for mortgages in black neighborhoods, and African-Americans were excluded from the suburbs by a combination of deed covenants and informal racism. 

In short, the GI Bill helped fostered a long-term boom in white wealth but did almost nothing to help blacks to build wealth. We are still living with the effects of that exclusion today -- and will be for a long time to come."

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
11.2.1  Kavika   replied to  Dismayed Patriot @11.2    7 years ago

You can add American Indians to that stat...My father, a Marine that hit the beach at Tarawa and had Purple Heart with 3 clusters was not able to buy a home in Grand Rapids MN in 1953 because he was Indian. 

 
 
 
Capt. Cave Man
Freshman Silent
11.2.2  Capt. Cave Man  replied to  Kavika @11.2.1    7 years ago

He wouldn't want to live there these days, Gangster Disciples running around up there causing trouble.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
11.2.3  Kavika   replied to  Capt. Cave Man @11.2.2    7 years ago

They, and the Native Mob can fight it out, it's all about drugs. Hopefully there won't be any survivors.

 
 
 
Capt. Cave Man
Freshman Silent
11.2.4  Capt. Cave Man  replied to  Kavika @11.2.3    7 years ago
it's all about drugs.

In my ignorance I never considered Grand Rapids, Deer River, Bowstring, ect.. to be a place of drugs, these days it's the dang meth capital of the northland...

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
11.2.5  Kavika   replied to  Capt. Cave Man @11.2.4    7 years ago

All you have to do is goggle ''meth production on the Iron Range MN.''  Page after page. Actually much is brought in from Minneapolis and Duluth.

 
 
 
pat wilson
Professor Participates
12  pat wilson    7 years ago

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Skrekk
Sophomore Participates
12.1  Skrekk  replied to  pat wilson @12    7 years ago

Thanks in large part to the Colorado Family Planning Initiative: 
  • Teen birth rate was nearly cut in half.
  • Teen abortion rate was nearly cut in half.
  • Births to women without a high school education fell 38 percent.
  • Second and higher order births to teens were cut by 57 percent.
  • Birth rate among young women ages 20-24 was cut by 20 percent.
  • Average age of first birth increased by 1.2 years among all women.
  • Rapid repeat births declined by 12 percent among all women.
  • Costs avoided: $66.1-$69.6 million.
 
 

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