Oh, there are SO many things one can say about this.

While they plead that their refugees are in SUCH need of funds, their government spends $5Om on an untirely unnecessary asset.

Eric Schwartz, president of Refugees International and former US Assistant Secretary of State, Population and Refugees, was quoted in the letter, saying “this decision [of cutting the financing of UNRWA] is aimed at punishing Palestinian political leaders and forcing them to make political concessions.”

YES, EXACTLY.  After all, the Palestinians NEVER make concessions, and won't even negotiate at all, let alone in good faith.

By the way, if the Palestinians can convince the unbelievably ignorant naive biased-against-Israel countries to continue sending them aid, that DOESN'T end up in Swiss bank accounts anyway, then maybe I have a chance to use "GoFundMe" to buy me a Maserati Quatroporte.

You really could maker this stuff up, is the West ever going to wake up?

"...is the West ever going to wake up?"

I doubt it.  Maybe, eventually, if when the new U.S. Embassy is built in Jerusalem the Palestinians go so far as to attack it, then MAYBE some of the American supporters of BDS and the Palestinians will put loyalty to their country ahead of their ignorant naive belief in Palestinian propaganda and intransigence.

Maybe, eventually, if when the new U.S. Embassy is built in Jerusalem the Palestinians go so far as to attack it, then MAYBE some of the American supporters of BDS and the Palestinians will put loyalty to their country ahead of their ignorant naive belief in Palestinian propaganda and intransigence.

I doubt many will, the rationale for their support of the Palestinians and BDS would be key.

How many are honest in their support, and how many use it as a convenient cover for their hatred of Jews?

their government spends $5Om on an entirely unnecessary asset.

yes, entirely unnecessary.  Doesn't make an ounce of sense.

especially if the US cuts off refugee funding.....

What else could a large jet be used for?

I do remember exactly where I was when the jets struck each tower in New York on 9/11.

I sure hope the buyer insisted on cash because the life expectancy of this aircraft is highly dubious.

Before the Palestinians get to use it for propaganda or a suicide mission, I'm guessing it mysteriously self detonates in Jordan.........

I imagine the insurance premiums for such a jet would be astronomical, if any insurer is crazy enough to insure it. As for its uses, I think that contraband weaponry would be a use.  However, I don't think there are runways as yet in the West Bank, and I doubt that Israel would ever allow them to be built. 

Oh, and even as a Canadian, I know EXACTLY where I was and what I was doing when I heard the announcement on my car radio of the 9/11 attack, same as when I first heard of Kennedy being shot. I can actually see vividly in my mind's eye my surroundings at those moments.

I've read several articles concerning this and you know what was shown....the actual source of where they got this information!

if someone can find the any article that has the source for the alleged report it would be greatly appreciated, and no, newspaper the Assabeel (the original article everyone is sourcing) doesn’t even give a source where they got their information!

even the Arab papers say the story is unsourced from Israeli newspapers...

You won't find any Palestinian (and probably no Arab/Muslim) media reporting it, probably because of this:

gatestoneinstitute

(You're bound to criticize THIS source, but you cannot deny the facts.)

In any event, the proof will be in the pudding. They can't hide the airplane when it's being used. It won't have a Star Trek cloaking ability.

You're bound to criticize THIS source, but you cannot deny the facts.)

Still waiting for anyone to post any!

I don't see what is wrong with their leader having a private plane. I think pretty much every country does.

Their leader, I guess is supposed to fly commercial?

According to a Freedom of Information Act request filed by Judicial Watch , the VC-25A cost a whopping $206,000 an hour to operate during a 2014 trip to Los Angeles by President Barack Obama

According to Autoweek , each one of Obama's 12 Beast limos cost $1.5 million. Trump will get a new version of the Beast. It's unclear how much the new model will cost.

On trips, these limos travel ahead with the advance team so they are waiting for the president once his plane arrives. This means they have to be transported ahead of time in a fleet of Boeing C-17 Globemaster III cargo planes.

businessinsider

Then of course there is Marine One, which flies in threes.

We pay exorbitant amounts of money for our own president and yet we have poor people here. We give billions of dollars to other countries yet we have poor people here.

Funny that we do it ourselves and then don't expect another country to do the same.

Did America go cap in hand to the world to pay for Obama's flights? 

No, we just did it to our own citizens.

All POSTUS  transportation is officially designated internally as "training flights" for Air Force and Marine personnel and are part of the military budget.

No, we just did it to our own citizens.

Therein lies the difference, the P.A. expects the rest of the world to chip in.

Do you see the difference?

I see the difference. I just don't understand the selective outrage. People seem to want to withdraw funds to Palestine yet could care less that we give billions to Israel.

Their leader should fly in safety just like every other leader in the world.

I wonder what the Palestinian supporters will say when they fly their new Jumbo Jet into the American Embassy in Jerusalem once it's built (AND manned). Remember, the pilots will get their 72 virgins in the heavenly gardens of Allah, and have schools and civic parks and squares named after them. How soon people forget 9/11 but never forget to deify Israel.

People seem to want to withdraw funds to Palestine yet could care less that we give billions to Israel.

I didn't know Israel spent that on private aircraft for cabinet ministers.

Their leader should fly in safety just like every other leader in the world.

Then let him do so at their own expense, whilst they're living off handouts he should expect to be ridiculed.

another reason to keep our embassy where it is, putting it in Jerusalem is like waving a red flag at a bull

Sounds to me like some people are saying that all Palestinians are terrorists and that their lives and feelings do not matter over the US protected Israelis. 

I would gladly stop giving Palestine 65 million when we stop giving Israel 3.15 billion every year.

By the way, the perpetrators of 911 came mostly from Saudi Arabia. Not one of them came from Palestine. 

If it did happen it would obviously be a lone wolf attack, absolutely nothing to do with the P.A., as we all know they'd never sponsor terrorism.

Does anyone need the sarcasm tag?

I would call Israel living off of 3.15 billion a year a lot bigger hand out.

Sounds to me like some people are saying that all Palestinians are terrorists and that their lives and feelings do not matter over the US protected Israelis.

I believe a few Palestinians have carried out the odd terror attacks, but I could be wrong about that.

Obviously nothing to do with the P.A., or those nice Hamas guys.

Given their hobby of driving cars into people I don't feel comfortable giving them a jet.

I would call Israel living off of 3.15 billion a year a lot bigger hand out.

Much of it spent on American built weapons, or in the form of equipment.

And funding research America benefits from, so sales, jobs and research, sounds like quite a good deal.

The billions that go to Israel are mostly spent in the USA keeping Americans in their jobs, and Israel provides many technological, medical, military and agricultural benefits to the USA and all mankind, and for the millions the USA provides in aid to the Palestinians, they provide.......???  Now, assuming you didn't know that, you now know why most people, especially intelligent one, don't care about the billions going to Israel.

The people of Palestine are victims as well. Funny that people can hate them yet turn a blind eye to what has been done to them

and for the millions the USA provides in aid to the Palestinians, they provide.......???

In part they provide a living wage for convicted Palestinian terrorist.

I can't quite see what America gets out of that.

This is just a VERY little taste of only very recent developments:

thenewstalkers

Unfortunately I cannot open YouTube, so I'm not able to counter what's been presented.

I do wonder, however, why NO COUNTRY is willing to absorb them, while refugees the world over are and have for centuries been absorbed.

The people of Palestine are victims as well. Funny that people can hate them yet turn a blind eye to what has been done to them

I agree, they're victims of decades of bad leadership, from the Nazi supporting al Husseini, the kleptocrat/terrorist Arafat, and now Abbas.

Have a link to that? I would like to read it.

And sorry Buzz. I forgot that you can't watch them. It is called 

Israeli atrocities in palestine-MUST WATCH- part1

It is basically clips of what Israel has done to Palestinian settlements.

Buzz/Ender, I'm on my way out, I'll check back in on this later.

From what I can gather, we give Israel money and they spend most of it here buying weapons.

Isn't that basically just giving them free weaponry?

I wrote this before I read what you said AFM.  I am off too. Will check tomorrow.

First you say

I see the difference. I just don't understand the selective outrage.

and then,

From what I can gather, we give Israel money and they spend most of it here buying weapons.

I suppose all outrage is selective.

Is it not?

When you put up the Palestinian Atrocities against Israel, then I'll be more inclined to watch your video-you post anti-Israel crap and ignore the fact that the Palestinians do just as much, if not more in the atrocity department.

"I don't see what is wrong with their leader having a private plane. I think pretty much every country does."

Netanyahu flies on EL AL commercial jets, and even China's leader, Xi Jinping, flies on an Air China commercial jet - as was reported, "to be frugal".

But, using the humanitarian aid provided by all the sucker countries, Abbas will spend $50m on a private plane.

Reportedly.

by unnamed sources to Israeli newspapers..........

no jet 

yet

on any ones tarmac.

uh huh. Maybe once to look like a common man.

Do you think the Israeli leader does not travel with protection?

Do you really believe this is the way he normally travels?

Though I will say that I have nothing to go on.......with no link.

uh huh. Maybe once to look like a common man.

No, until 2017 the Israeli PM flew by EL AL, it should be noted the security requirements were expensive. 

Since 2017 there has been a designated airplane.

All of the coordinated manufactured outrage we all see seeded pretty much daily around here concerning the Palestinians and the Palestinian Authority bugges me. This brouhaha regarding the Palestinian Authority having a plane for its own uses is merely another of the almost daily demonizations of the Palestinian People who were illegally stripped of their homes and their land without reccompense and left to either be refugees or to live wretched lives under the heavily armed thumb of the state of Israel. Has great evil been done in the name of Palestine? Yes. Have the Palestinians suffered? Yes. Since the partition of Israel many times more Palestinians have been killed in the conflict than Israelis. Have the Palestinian People ever been treated fairly? No. Just about everyone who has ever worked to make peace between Israel and its neighbors has concluded so and become convinced that a Palestinian homeland is necessary for any future peace but this Israel has steadfastly refused and so some among the Palestinian cause have committed horrid acts of resistance. In these discussions any hint of sympathy towards the Palestinians is immediately labeled as anti-semitism. Any criticism of Israel will get one labeled anti-semitic. I have friends who have served as missionaries and aid workers to both Muslims and Christians in the occupied territories and Gaza. The situations there are horrid, wretched and getting worse. Why is it okay to demonize all Palestinians? it seems even one hint of a critique of Israel gets one labeled as anti-semitic. The Israeli-Palestinian problems will never be settled until both sides negotiate in good faith and that is possible. Demonizing all the People of Palestine is contrary to any hope of Peace the same as demonizing all Muslims is not only wrong on many levels but only leads to more of the same hate that has been going on nearly a century. I will posit this, anyone who attempted to demonize either Israel or the Jewish People in the same manners which Palestine and its People are continually demonized would no doubt be censored, condemned and generally and rightfully abused. So, why is it okay regarding Islam in general and Palestinians in particular? 

This brouhaha regarding the Palestinian Authority having a plane for its own uses is merely another of the almost daily demonizations of the Palestinian People who were illegally stripped of their homes and their land without reccompense and left to either be refugees or to live wretched lives under the heavily armed thumb of the state of Israel.

No, the issue is the P.A. not the Palestinians, don't falsely try and equate the two.

Since the partition of Israel many times more Palestinians have been killed in the conflict than Israelis.

I'm familiar with the argument, weakness doesn't make right, this is something people shouldn't forget.

Have the Palestinian People ever been treated fairly? No. 

With the exception of Jordan the Palestinians haven't been treated fairly by their fellow Arabs.

Just about everyone who has ever worked to make peace between Israel and its neighbors has concluded so and become convinced that a Palestinian homeland is necessary for any future peace but this Israel has steadfastly refused and so some among the Palestinian cause have committed horrid acts of resistance.

What complete and utter B/s.

Who refused the partition plan?

The Palestinians

Who chose war over peace?

That would be the Palestinians again.

Who has turned down every serious offer the Israelis have made?

You got, the Palestinians!

 In these discussions any hint of sympathy towards the Palestinians is immediately labeled as anti-semitism. 

Again, utter B/s, I haven't seen Ender accused of this here.

Any criticism of Israel will get one labeled anti-semitic.

Again B/s, Buzz and myself have both criticised Israel.

I have friends who have served as missionaries and aid workers to both Muslims and Christians in the occupied territories and Gaza. The situations there are horrid, wretched and getting worse.

You claim it's so terrible yet the P.A. spends $335 million on convicted terrorists.

Why is it okay to demonize all Palestinians? 

Again, the P.A. not all Palestinians.

 it seems even one hint of a critique of Israel gets one labeled as anti-semitic. 

Repeating B/s doesn't make it the truth. I realise that it's a popular Palestinian propaganda trick, but it isn't going to work with me.

The Israeli-Palestinian problems will never be settled until both sides negotiate in good faith and that is possible.

Lets look at good faith. The P.A. insisted that Israeli building work harmed peace, so the Israelis began a 10 month freeze on new building.

Did the Palestinians come to the table?

No, they waited until the 10 month period was almost up, and then demanded it be put back in place before they'd talk.

Demonizing all the People of Palestine is contrary to any hope of Peace the same as demonizing all Muslims is not only wrong on many levels but only leads to more of the same hate that has been going on nearly a century. I will posit this, anyone who attempted to demonize either Israel or the Jewish People in the same manners which Palestine and its People are continually demonized would no doubt be censored, condemned and generally and rightfully abused.

1) There is no Palestine, it doesn't exist!

2) We aren't doing that.

3) Condemning the P.A. isn't condemning all Palestinians, hence your above post is a steaming pile of emotive horse manure. 

So, why is it okay regarding Islam in general and Palestinians in particular?

So, your claim rests on whether condemning the P.A. for buying a airplane for Abbas, is the same as condemning Islam in general and Palestinians in particular.

Easy answer, no it isn't the same.

It's getting late here and not only am I getting sleepy, but I'm also getting so fucking tired of anyone who says that any criticism of Israel is considered anti-Semitic. When anyone says that, THEIR credibility in EVERYTHING they say goes RIGHT down the drain. When I get up tomorrow morning I will ONCE AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN post a response to that fucking lie.

So,  your answer is to daily post articles that demonize the Palestinians? Jews, even or especially Israeli Jews, can and do criticize the state of Israel and similarly Palestinians often take issue with the Palestinian Authority. You may stay mad. That is all on you. It does not to help anyone...

So,  your answer is to daily post articles that demonize the Palestinians?

Daily?

Exaggeration doesn't help your cause.

Oh please spare us the poor me victim bullshit where Palestinians are concerned:

Liberal types aren't happy unless they can constantly cry over Non-Americans.

STRIKE THE "FAKE POSE" ! 

Thanks for the info. I didn't know that.

I fail to understand all the manufactured outrage. The PA is the recognized, well Palestinian Authority. At least that seems to me to be what US tax dollars being authorized to them for their used by the US government in our US bugget controlled by the gop in congress proves. Never mind that the amount we allocated has been slashed and is a mere pitance compared with what we hand over to Israel. How many planes, war planes, the Israelis were able to purchase with the untold billions we have spent subsidizing them the last seventy years? Abbas is the official democratically elected leader of the Palestinian People. I personally have no problem with the PA spending the PA's budget as the PA chooses. And again, I fail to understand how demonizing the PA and Palestinian People in general is in any way helpful in the long run. On the other hand, I fully can forsee how doing so might just make any peace accord more difficult to ever acheive and probably might be used to justify further violence on both sides ending min even more death and destruction. The US goverment gives the PA a little bit of help every year comparitively because the US government believes it is in the US People's best interest to do so. Trump and the gop have cut the amount but not stopped aid to the PA so  let me suggest that if any of you have a big problem with that then you shouold take it up with the gop in Congress and the fellow who signs the budget  instead of bitching about it here. Plainly, a bunch of falsely outraged right wing fanatics making a big deal out of this on-line is outrageously absurd except in the context of further demonizing the already marginalized Palestinian People who live lives of oppression, poverty and hoplessness. Which is why, by the way, we help them at all. It is not like we are buying a war plane of Al Qaeda though we do give them away by gross to the Saudis and the Israelis. Go Figure;;;

Actually, now that it isn't late at night and I'm thinking more clearly, why the hell should I waste my time providing evidence and argument to a person who most likely has never been to Israel (I have been to Israel and the West Bank more than once) and experienced the reality on the ground, but who just repeats the canards of Palestinian lies and the liberal media that is biased against Israel anyway? I've provided such comments elsewhere and don't intend to waste my time again on anyone who is so mired in the swamp of propaganda virtually with feet encased in concrete.

The PA is the recognized, well Palestinian Authority.

Yes it is, however this doesn't stop it being a dictatorship.

Never mind that the amount we allocated has been slashed and is a mere pitance compared with what we hand over to Israel.

We've already established the difference between the two, and how America benefits from its aid to Israel, and doesn't benefit from the aid given to the Palestinians.

Abbas is the official democratically elected leader of the Palestinian People.

Was, past tense, he stopped holding elections. That makes him just another Arab dictator.

I personally have no problem with the PA spending the PA's budget as the PA chooses.

I do. I have an issue with aid we (The West) contribute being spent on wages for terrorist, and vanity items, but then he is a dictator, so what can you expect.

And again, I fail to understand how demonizing the PA and Palestinian People in general is in any way helpful in the long run.

Again that isn't what being done, kindly show me how criticism of the P.A. is demonising the entire Palestinian people.

 On the other hand, I fully can forsee how doing so might just make any peace accord more difficult to ever acheive and probably might be used to justify further violence on both sides ending min even more death and destruction.

If they really want peace talks the Palestinian side should try turning up 

The US goverment gives the PA a little bit of help every year comparitively because the US government believes it is in the US People's best interest to do so. 

No, the P.A. gets money from the world to keep it afloat, it's basically blackmail.

Trump and the gop have cut the amount but not stopped aid to the PA so  let me suggest that if any of you have a big problem with that then you shouold take it up with the gop in Congress and the fellow who signs the budget  instead of bitching about it here.

I will follow this the second you own the site, until then we are free to discuss what we want within the site rules. 

Plainly, a bunch of falsely outraged right wing fanatics making a big deal out of this on-line is outrageously absurd except in the context of further demonizing the already marginalized Palestinian People who live lives of oppression, poverty and hoplessness.

So, failure to agree with your opinion makes us "right wing fanatics", do you think name calling is going to work?

Which is why, by the way, we help them at all.

No, as I've said it's to keep the P.A. afloat, threats of chaos, or renewed war are made if the funds don't keep flowing.

Yet $335 million is spent on convicted terrorists and their families every year.

the already marginalized Palestinian People who live lives of oppression, poverty and hoplessness.

And whose fault is that? And why should we give aid and comfort to our enemy?