A Philly Colloquialism Prefigures the Coming Fate of the NRA!
"MONEY TALKS AND BULLSHIT WALKS!"
- Three major car rental companies dump the NRA
- Corporations should drop the NRA (SHARE GRAPHIC)
- First National Bank dumps NRA, will no longer issue NRA Visa card
- RED BOX RULES … Try Not to Post Anything that Makes You Appear to Value Guns Over the Lives of Innocent Children
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Add FedEx, Norton and Wyndham Hotels to the list!
Economic Boycotts and Work Stoppages are Coming!
MLB players honor Florida shooting victims, wear school hats
Major League Baseball players will honor victims of last week's shooting in Florida by wearing Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School hats at spring training games this week.
Baseball commissioner Rob Manfred said Tuesday all 30 teams will wear the school hats during pregame warmups for their exhibition openers. Players, managers, coaches and umpires will have the option of wearing the caps during those first games. The hats might later be signed and auctioned to support those affected by the tragedy at the high school.
FRCKN FINALLY the teeth that can bite and bring down just about any corrupt foundation except for our government.
Monetary influences
and when removed
support tends to wane, like money wasted in weather vane or not, as without a main lined supply line misaligned to mold the works mainlining money & misinformation to one stupid ass nation, forever on thought vacation, while thinking about something else, obviously, cause what else could they have been possibly thinking of, obviously!,.?/
We live in a society where some pseudo celebrity can make a snarky comment about a certain social media platform and that corporation immediately loses 1.3 billion dollars on Wall street, something is seriously wrong.
Wall St has always been reactionary and superstitious, but I don't think that has anything to do with why many businesses no longer want to be associated with an utterly tone-deaf right-wing lobbying group for gun manufacturers.
really curious as to how this actually took so long, and I do realize we don't know extent yet.
It's too bad that more people didn't see Bowling for Columbine....Moore did a great job exposing the role the NRA has in enabling these tragedies and how today they're really just a lobbying group for gun manufacturers.
But I think his best observation was about the difference between the US and Canadian news media, despite very similar gun cultures and traditions of gun ownership. The news in the US isn't designed to inform so much as agitate or terrify the viewer. So people here buy more guns to "protect" themselves despite the fact that crimes rates have been steadily falling for decades.
They need a bogeyman.
Snarky to you Pat, but evidently not snarky to others. I saw something about that, but don't know a thing about it, just that Snapchat or something like that lost 1.3 billion dollars because someone said he/she didn't open the site or whatever it was anymore.
It also works both ways. Chick-fil-a had the most profitable day in the history of their company when being protested by some group of people.
Sometimes posts on social media by celebrities and boycotts by others work for them and sometimes they don't.
NRA's corporate partners are fleeing the sinking ship
Sad
truly sad
just how many innocent people have died because this should have happened decades ago.
I have no problem with RESPONSIBLE gun owners, and thus there owning firearms.
How could they deny studies, that's what truly gets me
And I believe even more will. This has the possibility of snowballing to the point where companies will not want to be associated with the any more then they want to be associated with cigarette companies. And in a way it's sad. The NRA of today is nothing like the NRA of years ago. It has morphed into nothing more then a lobbying organization for gun manufacturers. They don't give a crap about the 2nd Amendment except how they can use it to fight any gun laws that will stop them from selling even more and more guns and making more profit off from the deaths of more Americans, of any age and they don't give a damn about any of the deaths. The NRA does not represent gun owners any longer, just gun manufacturers and sellers. Period.
Won't affect the NRA at all, since more people will join than ever before. All this take away mentality on the part of the left has made me think of buying a gun and joining the NRA, in case the loony left ever gets back in power.
Meanwhile...criminals and drug dealers and the cartels and the criminally insane will have no problem procuring guns.
Sometimes I'm convinced liberals really want everyone to own guns.
The CNN propaganda exercise, cheering on massive corporations trying to shove their views down people's throats, it's like they want to do everything possible to repel moderates and non- gun grabbers. Everytime a grabber starts talking about pro slaugheter agendas and yelling about burning Dana Loesh, you lose credibility among the non-fanatics.
Keep bullying and screaming names at people all year and Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell will have bigger majorities.
The more the crazed fanatics control the dialogue, the less things change:
While Evangelicals and the Religious Right vote for NRA-owned politicians.
How much does the NRA pay legislators to impose their views?
The NRA, which spent more than $30 million in 2016 to support TRUMP! (These figures come from the Center for Responsive Politics .)
EMily's List spent more to push their pro abortion agenda. Does that bother you?
Seriously, do you think calling everyone who disagrees with you a child murderer helps or hurts gun control efforts? Does fanaticism appeal to non-fanatics?
Seriously; I didn't call you or anyone else a "child murderer" … but that's the kind of hyperbole and mischaracterization that a losing argument posits when it can't specifically justify a position.
Citation please … and when you cite some valid specifics, clarify for us how you can criticize corporations for "talking" with their money, but denigrate working people for talking with their money?
Read my sub-headline.
Show me where I called anyone a "child murderer" … referring to the murder of children and the particulars regarding such murders is not " calling everyone who disagrees with me (or anyone else) "a child murderer".
Certainly a new low for TheNewstalkers .
What is low, is the intentional, histrionic, misrepresentation of the comments of other members … that, because you can't specifically refute the facts.
Please don't do that again on my discussions.
As for:
I have no doubt the the gun culture will continue to tell the lie that "Democrats want to take away their guns" … I assume that Democrats will relentlessly clarify what the want and do not want in the way of "gun control", namely, universal background checks and sensible regulations regarding assault weapons.
Trump and Republicans have bigger things to worry about; the BASE will always vote for NRA-type candidates, xenophobes, misogynists, and all that Trumpism represents; highly doubtful that Republicans will gain new support because of gun issues … on the other hand … those who show no flexibility to legislate mitigating law in order to prevent whatever murders might be prevented …
… many of them will pay the political price.
Feel free to specifically rebut WITH COUNTER POINTS, anything posted herein … BUT DO NOT INTENTIONALLY MISREPRESENT, MISQUOTE, AND/OR PUT WORDS IN ANYONE'S MOUTH!
EMily's List spent more to push their pro abortion agenda. Does that bother you?
I'm not in favor of abortion-on-demand … and if your implying "hypocrisy" on my part, I'd say, being simultaneously PRO-LIFE and PRO GUN, particularly while fighting against reforms like Universal Background Checks … puts the hypocrisy rap on that gang.
And how stupid is the simultaneously anti-abortion/anti contraception position?
Every time that there is any talk of any kind of gun control the NRA trots this same lie out and the same morons believe it. Yet whenever the Democrats are in power it never happens. No one is going to try to take away the guns of anyone who currently legally owns their guns. Period. It's not going to happen. If you legally have an AR-15 no one is going to try to take it away from you. This specter of government agents knocking on your door and demanding that you give up your guns or that the 2nd Amendment is being overturned is pure bullshit. Yet the NRA always waves this fake boogie man and idiots always buy into it.
And why do they do it? To scare people into going out and buying even MORE guns (to make them more profits) before the big, bad government tries to take away the ones they have, which is not going to fucking happen in the first place. It's purely a marketing ploy.
RED BOX RULES … Try Not to Post Anything that Makes You Appear to Value Guns Over the Lives of Innocent Children
You may not have outright called someone a child murderer, but your rule above insinuates that many people, probably to you, conservatives only, value their guns over the lives of children.
Mac, this is one of many reasons why no one on here takes you seriously.
I’d stock up now just in case so your weapons are grandfathered in as a precaution. Look at fully autos you can only buy old crap thanks to the real gun grabbers. Buy your bump stock now you might not be able to a couple years from now. Anyone on Prozac and anything else really needs to take the gun grabbing seriously they really do want to leave you a sitting duck with no way to protect yourself.
You may not have outright called someone a child murderer, but your rule above insinuates that many people, probably to you, conservatives only, value their guns over the lives of children.
Mac, this is one of many reasons why no one on here takes you seriously.
Do you understand that when innocent children are gunned down and the NRA, the gun culture and the NRA-owned politician invariably offer nothing more than lip-service thoughts and prayers … and add that "this is not the time to talk about doing something … "
That to a grieving family and all manner of reasonable human beings … it …
Makes You Appear to Value Guns Over the Lives of Innocent Children
Does anyone need further explanation?
Hey, Bugsy, you let me worry about who here takes me seriously and you see if you can make rebuttals that are not ad hominem.
What a typical leftist drivel
you can join in grieving for others while still treasuring the right to keep and bear arms
when you gun rights haters guarantee that no criminal, terrorist, foreign enemy or our own military have these weapons, then we will agree we don’t need them
Actually they spent more like $50 million supporting candidates that would uphold the 2nd amendment fighting against candidates who would not.
The fear is real....
Hillary Clinton Supports Australia-Style Confiscation
Here's another example of how we are duped by politicians such as Hillary Clinton. The average voter hearing Hillary Clinton speak in this video below would think Australia offered so much money to the people in Australia for their guns, they just couldn't refuse, but we know she knew what Australia did and was presenting it to the people in the video below by misleading them with her words. Think this will register. We're really not that dumb.
Oh and by the way, David Leyonhjelm, who is on the phone in the video above is a Senator in Australia. You heard it right out of Hillary's own mouth, not some gun toting gun lover. She likes what they did in Australia and that was they took the people's guns. So this isn't a big lie as some would like you to think it is. You won't find the video by MSNBC on YouTube that was there for several years where Obama voted to ban guns in Illinois. Just another example of the media we have today pushing on thing and removing any obstacles in their way.
You do realize the large number of corporations that support the NRA will continue to do so, as well as a lot of the defectors will return.
The NRA will go on and another liberal effort will have been for no net gain.
Never made an ad hominem. YOU claim that many gun owners value their guns than they do protecting children. Your red box rule confirmed that. I called you on it. You didn't like it.
Nothing more than that.
BTW, the NRA had nothing to do with this. It was ALL about an adult with mental illness that, after many warning signs reported to the FBI and the local sheriff's office, they failed to act on it.
My guess, and I am usually right, is when President Trump gets legislation signed that calls for stricter background checks and increase the age to buying a semi auto rifle, you will be screaming that he still did not do enough. Your and your party's hatred of this president far outweigh any chance of bipartisanship to make the country even stronger and our kids more safe.
Maybe this will help...Nobody takes your ideology serious.
My guess is, Trump and, the Republicans will do nothing.
Exactly what did Obama and his democratic party led Congress from 2010 to 2012 do with gun control legislature, even wih a super majority for a period of time?
Let me help you....nothing. But it's Trump's fault, right?
Australia's 1999 gun confiscation didn't save the lives of 74 people who were murdered between then and 2017 via blunt instruments, arson, guns, and vehicular attacks. That number doesn't include the people who were injured during those attacks.
For Hillary to compare an island nation/continent population of 28M to a nation of 325+M with open borders , sanctuary cities and states is ludicrous.
Look at the comments in this and other discussions on the topic and you'll see why such an appearance exists.
But no murders via mass shootings!
How close does a perpetrator need to get to a would-be victim with a blunt instrument? Vehicles are not designed nor intended to kill or destroy …
But WTF? Why have any laws at all … some people will sooner or later violate every one …
And that's the kind of ridiculous rationale that gives the appearance that many gun-lovers, whose first response to a mass shooting is essentially that rationale, prioritize protecting their guns (while thier thoughts and prayers go to the victims).
It's not a lie it's a fact Mac. Democrats have always been good at hiding their real agenda taking small steps at first to reach their final goal.
We don’t need new gun laws. We just need to enforce the current ones
I think many Internet uses tend to be gullible-- believe whatever they see on their favourite site (be it CNN or Fox News). However, many corporate CEOs are pretty savvy-- their business decisions aren't run by any ideological bias, but rather their knowleder of their business and their current and potential customers.
So when they take a strong position on a controversial issue like this, its usually based on a leveled-headed, objectiveassessment of which position will gain them more customers than it loses.
So now that many are starting to shift their positions on gun-related issues, my guess is that most of them have decided that taking this action will benefit their companies more than it will hurt them. (These people are interested in profits-- and they know their businesess and their customers better than you or I!).
Which indicates to me that their current analysis has indicated to them that the dominanece of the NRA has begun to decline...public opinion is shifting.
massive corporations trying to shove their views down people's throats
WTF? This isn't Russia!!!
Unless a company has an absolute 100% monopolgy in their sector, they can't "shove their views" down the consumers throat! If you believe that, you don't understand how capitalism works!
If. say, AT & T has taken a controversial position on a controversial issue I don't like-- if its important enough to me-- I can switch to Verizon. Or-- T-Mobile (or even Sprint).
Don't know if you're a curious person or not...but here's an interesting question you may or may not wish to ponder:
Have you ever wondered how come all liberals do that-- all the time! And no conservatives ever do it-- never!?
(Could it possibly be that all liberals are racially inferior-- that all liberals have a certain negative gene perhaps? While all conservatives are smarter, better behaved, and more honest because that are all genetically superior?)
Meanwhile, Florida Governor, Rick Scott has indicated he'll support raising the age to 21, for the purchase of all firearms in his state.
Scott has been forever pro-gun.
Scott has also come out against arming teachers.
A few more corporations have dropped ties with the NRA.
Avis/Budget
Allied Van Lines
Best Western
Republic Bank
Wyndham Hotel Group
Metlife
Oregon, a four state coalition ... N.Y., NJ, Connecticut and RI, and Florida, have now passed common sense gun law reforms; sanity and common sense are begining take hold.
And the 2nd Amendment is still in business.
In other news, Rick Gates will connect the dots.
This just goes to show how utterly fucking stupid America has become. The NRA didn't kill anyone. The kid wasn't even a member. It's coming to light now that the bureaucracy failed. That the current gun laws failed. The FBI has screwed up at least 6 of the last active shooter incidents, and could have prevented them. The County Sheriff's office was TOLD this guy wanted to shoot up a school. And they ignored it. Four deputies hid like cowards while this guy was in the school. THE GOVERNMENT FAILED THESE CHILDREN. Not the NRA.
(A note about these companies and their actions. This doesn't hurt the NRA like everyone thinks. All they have done for the NRA is provide discounts to NRA members. FNB provided the NRA labeled Visa Card. This has no monetary impact on the NRA. They don't donate to them.)
No, they've merely been a very large part of the problem. It's good to see sane and ethical companies stop supporting these gun lobbyists.
What problem Shrekk? The problem of a GOVERNMENT that let these kids die because they ignored not one, not two, but many warning signs? Or the made up problem that this is somehow the fault of the gun?
I don't know exactly how you think, but this is big, and WILL be affecting the power the NRA wields.
It is common sense stuff so far, and I find it troubling you cannot support some common sense solutions to protect American citizens who have needlessly become an easy prey for sick individuals with gun access.
I'm not a member of the NRA. I haven't been for many many years. But I will tell you, if I were to join, it wouldn't be simply because National Car Rental offered me a discount.
Liberals and common sense is an oxymoron. Y'all still can't define what you mean by "common sense"
Hell, we have been waiting years for them to give a definition of "fair share". Only thing I can get is...if you have more than me, you have to give it to me.
Last week I paid my NRA dues for 2 years
And did you join just so you could get discounts from these companies?
If I were to join, it sure as hell would not be because of some discount. I don't even request military discounts in many of these same businesses. The only time I take advantage of one is if someone sees my retired ID when I open it to get another card, and they ask if I am prior military.
The NRA will not be touched because of this.
LOL
the reports of the NRA's death have been greatly exaggerated.
the truth is simple... the NRA will outlive every single person alive today.
why, cause they'll all shoot and kill each other ?
sorry... not playing in your fantasy world.
And here we are 7 hours later and not a peep. I wonder why?
Can you say "ENABLER"?
But, since you're lauding the alleged, spotless "mass murder" record of NRA members, why not go an honest step forward and laud …
Strong Majority of Americans, NRA Members Back Gun Control
A poll finds both gun owners and non-gun owners support background checks, other measures.
What is this "Background Check" WHINE everyone likes to throw out there, as if there is NO SUCH THING.
Not ONCE, have I NOT had to fill out paperwork for a "BIG GOV. BACKGROUND CHECK" !
NOT ONCE HAVE I BEEN ABLE TO TAKE HOME MY PURCHASE THE SAME DAY !
Not ONCE have I been told that this paperwork goes to some Joe Blow in a garage for a "Check" ! They tell me it goes to BIG FUCKING GOV. for the Okay....and EVERY FUCKING TIME too !
Even people with Concealed carry permits, have to fill out that paperwork , although BIG GOV. permitted folks can take their purchase home the same day. They don't have to wait the Law REQUIRED 3 or 5 day WAITING period like others do. They're ALREADY Permitted by BIG GOV. . dontchyknow !
A Big Fucking
from me. 
The question is a form of "logical fallacy" … but, let us begin.
“Innocent people — including children — are being gunned down by legal gun carriers at an alarming rate. At the same time, there is no evidence that people carrying concealed guns are making our communities safer,” states VPC Legislative Director Kristen Rand.
One of the recently convicted concealed carry killers was National Rifle Association lifetime member William Sherwood, who shot and killed a fellow motorist following a traffic accident in Melbourne, Florida. Sherwood was found guilty of second degree murder on September 17, 2014. He faces a minimum of 25 years in prison and could receive up to a life sentence.
Full details on this incident and others are available on Concealed Carry Killers . The online resource includes detailed information (primarily from news reports) for the majority of the 506 incidents, organized by state, including (if available) the age of the perpetrator and the victim(s), the weapon used, the relationship(s) of those involved in the killing, and motives for the killing when stated.
Because there is no comprehensive record keeping of deaths involving concealed handgun permit holders and many states in fact bar the release of such information , the examples on the Concealed Carry Killers website are taken primarily from news reports and most likely represent a fraction of actual events.
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Still, I will continue to research your "gotcha" question.
Um, he asked you if you have anything that an NRA member committed a mass murder. You cite one guy that killed ONE other guy during a road rage incident.
All you have to say it......"No, in honesty, I find that a mass murder by an NRA member has never happened." It would be so much easier for you.
As does the NRA, so why are they being portrayed as the prime villain in these shootings?
Back in the 80s , I became a life member of the NRA, not for discounts offered from different entities , but because I believed what the NRA was founded on in the 1800s , and the safety courses they offered , I did so because I was into competitive shooting at a couple different sportsmans clubs , and was in the military at the time and felt that the safety issues and courses taught were important .
About the time I became a life member , the NRA split , and formed the institute for legislative action , that's the political entity some of you refer to when you say NRA, and to their detriment , they don't make a distinction of what both different parts actually do .
Today the ILA seems to be the bigger part of the NRA, and because of that , I simply ignore their calls for donations to that entity , I do still support the courses and training the true NRA was formed to do,
So these corperations that are disavowing themselves , don't bother me , I never used them anyway. I still and will always support , the founding principles and reasons the NRA was formed , the training and instruction in the safe handleing of firearms and the promotion of marksmanship among the citizens .
Oh, well. I suppose I'll just have to use my AAA, AARP, or auto insurance discounts instead of my NRA discount when I want to rent a car.
Those, and military discounts, are far better than an NRA discount.