Donald Trump Will Always Shoot Himself In The Foot
Like a baby yo yo, his popularity bounces, unfailingly, between 35 and 41%.
It goes up a little, to his ceiling of 41%, then he says or does something stupid again and it goes back down to the mid 30's, where the deplorables begin to make their presence felt. Then he announces something that seems "hopeful" such as announcing that his emissary had a 'good' meeting with North Korea and Trump's rating goes up a little. Then he says something stupid again and it goes back down next week. His 'pattern' is now known and clear, and has hardly wavered across 15 months in office. Since by his nature he cannot stop saying stupid things, this will be his approval ratings the entire time he is in office.
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If the Democrats get turnout in November this will all be over. There are more Democratic voters in America than there are Trump supporters.
So all the bitching about gerrymandering is for nothing?
Nope, but when even his own base is turning away from him, Democrats are winning DESPITE the ridiculous amount of gerrymandering (cheating) they continue to do.
SO gerrymandering--something both parties do and have done, isn't really all that big of a factor then.
Both parties? Recent study has found 1 single instance of Democrat gerrymandering. Here's an article from Princeton for you to ignore.
Gerrymanders, Part 1: Busting the both-sides-do-it myth
Here's another one that puts Republican gerrymandering at 4 to 1 over Democratic.
Analysis: Partisan gerrymandering has benefited Republicans more than Democrats
And I have to say that they defense of, "well they do it too...", is one of the most desperate and failed attempts in an argument. It is just 1 step above personal insults as a response.
Democrats gerrymandered for 40 years, and still do in the few states they control.
That's how it works.
Funny thing about it, though. To do any gerrymandering at all, you first have to have control. Seems like the GOP won that control fair and square, even in some states that used to be all Democrat-run.
I don't have to defend gerrymandering. It is legal.
if Democrats don't like it, do what a famous Democrat once suggested.
"Win some elections"
Prove it...!
I provided links supporting my opinions, you provided....nothing to support your claims.
Incapable of doing your on research?
Republicans are so much better than Democrats at ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/06/06/republicans...
Apr 21, 2018 · Post-2010, there are simply fewer opportunities for Democrats to gerrymander. Second, Brennan's analysis suggests that Democrats did attempt some gerrymanders in places such as Maryland and Massachusetts.
Why Democrats Can't Blame Gerrymandering - Bloomberg
https://www.bloomberg.com/.../why-democrats-can-t-blame-gerrymandering
Sep 08, 2014 · Gerrymandering, by conventional measures, has cost Democrats only a handful of seats, not close to enough for them to have taken a House majority in 2012, when Democratic candidates received more total votes than Republicans.
Democrats do it too: Maryland’s “forgotten gerrymander ...
https://www.salon.com/2018/03/26/democrats-do-it-too-marylands...
Mar 26, 2018 · Democrats do it too: Maryland ... that a State did impose burdens and restrictions on ... to fundraise and politicize around gerrymandering. National ...
Bipartisan[edit]
Bipartisan gerrymandering refers to redistricting that favors the incumbents in both the Democratic and Republican Parties. Bipartisan gerrymandering became a salient practice in the 2000 redistricting process, which created some of the most non-competitive redistricting plans in American history.[13]:828 The Supreme Court held in Gaffney v. Cummings (1973) that bipartisan gerrymanders are constitutionally permissible under the Equal Protection Clause.[13]:828[24]
The Democrats’ Gerrymandering Obsession - POLITICO
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/10/06/supreme-court...
The Democrats’ Gerrymandering Obsession. ... In order for the GOP to use its ... the crux o
No, but you just confirmed what I was saying. Republicans gerrymander 4 or 5 to 1 over Democrats. Your arguments seems to be, that it is something to be proud of, that Republicans are much better cheaters than the Democrats.....
[Shhhh ... I don't want him to know he linked something that was so totally contradictory to his statement. Damn, I love this shit!]
So you aren't really pissed about gerrymandering--just pissed that Democrats have lost most of their ability to do it and that the GOP is better at it.
Win some elections and change it then!
Wow, just wow.
"Wow. Just wow"
Amazed at hearing the truth?
Yes! You're saying that the GOP has to cheat to win, and do not understand why the Democrats aren't as good at cheating as the GOP, but are very very proud of the GOP for being the best cheaters.
You support a very very bizarre set of ethics...
I said nothing of the sort. You made that up.. Tsk, tsk, tsk.
Gerrymandering is legal, so how is it cheating?
You don't think it is illegal, do you?
No, but a person whose moral compass points true north might find fault with the idea:
Cite
Just out of curiosity, why would you even ask if someone thought that was illegal? No one believes it's illegal, however it can be construed as unethical and manipulative. Someone once told me there are no stupid questions. Well ... I don't know about that.
Would you like to outlaw gerrymandering that creates minority-majority districts?
A person who's moral compass points true north might call bullshit on all this complaining about gerrymandering.
Then how can the Supreme Court rule against it and force the states to redraw the districts?
Gill v. Whitford: Gerrymandering at the Supreme Court
The SCOTUS has upheld the legality of gerrymandering, multiple times, You'll have to do better than that.
What the Supreme Court’s Gerrymander Ruling Means for the ...
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/05/supreme-court-north...
In a 2004 case, Kennedy sided with the conservatives to uphold a partisan gerrymander in Pennsylvania, although he suggested that the court should remain open to future challenges. The Supreme Court is expected to take up one such challenge this fall in a case out of Wisconsin.
In gerrymandering case, judge recommends Pa. Supreme Court ...
www.philly.com/.../news/pa-gerrymandering-judge-upholdsupreme-court...
In 2004, the U.S. Supreme Court came close to ruling that gerrymandering is a question outside the purview of the courts. In the years since, social scientists and legal scholars have proposed a …
The Clock Is Ticking on SCOTUS’s Gerrymandering Decision
nymag.com/.../2018/03/the-clock...scotuss-gerrymandering-decision.html
The second major partisan gerrymandering case before SCOTUS isn’t clearing up the Court’s future direction.
Today’s orders: Court to tackle partisan gerrymandering ...
www.scotusblog.com/2017/...orders-court-tackle-partisan-gerrymandering
Jun 19, 2017 · SCOTUS today held as follows: ... Amy Howe, Today’s orders: Court to tackle partisan gerrymandering, SCOTUSblog ... Recent Decisions ...
Opinion analysis: Court strikes down N.C ... - SCOTUSblog
www.scotusblog.com/...analysis-court...racial-gerrymandering-challenge
May 22, 2017 · The Supreme Court today upheld that decision, ... Court strikes down N.C. districts in racial gerrymandering ... http://www.scotusblog.com ...
SCOTUSblog - Official Site
www.scotusblog.com
Welcome to SCOTUSblog ... of partisan gerrymandering in Wisconsin and ... through” presumption in federal habeas review of state-court decisions
The justices tackle partisan gerrymandering again: In ...
www.scotusblog.com/2017/08/justices-tackle-partisan-gerrymandering...
Aug 07, 2017 · Posted in Gill v.Whitford, Plain English / Cases Made Simple, Summer symposium on Gill v. Whitford, Featured, Merits Cases. Recommended Citation: Amy Howe, The justices tackle partisan gerrymandering again: In Plain English (UPDATED), SCOTUSblog (Aug. 7, 2017, 1:33 PM), http://www.scotusblog.com/2017/08/justices-tackle-partisan-gerrymandering ...
Argument preview: For the second time this term, justices ...
www.scotusblog.com/...time-term-justices-take-partisan-gerrymandering
Mar 23, 2018 · In October, the Supreme Court heard oral argument in a case alleging that Wisconsin’s Republican-controlled legislature had drawn the state’s redistricting plan to put Democrats at a disadvantage – a claim known as “partisan gerrymandering.”
A "view" from the courtroom: A big windup on partisan ...
www.scotusblog.com/...courtroom-big-windup-partisan-gerrymandering
Oct 03, 2017 · “And every one of them will come here for a decision on the ... A big windup on partisan gerrymandering ... scotusblog.com/2017/10 ...
false premise... try again
Cheers
Moving the goalposts? Cheating does not mean illegal all the time, but it always means unethical.
it isn't cheating.
That's all in your mind.
We'll see.....one of the racial gerrymandering cases they heard on Tuesday is about your state. Who knew that the conservatives in your state were so effing racist? LOL.
By the way both of the lower courts have ruled against you so far in Abbott v Perez since they found that the intent was blatantly racist.
Do you support racial gerrymandering that creates minority-majority districts?
I don't think districting is a simple topic, but it's clear that the GOP in Texas and many other red states used race as a substitute for party affiliation and gerrymandered the districts accordingly.
Do you support racial gerrymandering to create minority-majority districts was the question.
Not sure what you answered, but it certainly wasn't my question.
If the Democrats get turnout in November this will all be over. There are more Democratic voters in America than there are Trump supporters.
Don't get your hopes up JR. The Democrats seem more interested and intent on overturning the last election than winning the next one. Trump has lost little if any support on the right, but many on the left crossed over to vote for him. The large number of independents are up for grabs, but not enough will go Democrat. The reasons of this are many, but in general they are fed up with the lies, corruption, dishonesty, and broken promises from the Democrats. The vast majority of the American voters see the Democrats as a dysfunctional bunch of whiny sore losers, who have nothing new to offer, other than trying to overturn a fairly won election.
IT AIN'T WORKING! This frivolous folly of the DNC launching a laughable lawsuit is but the latest example of the left's inability to inspire and lead.
It is all but certain that Mueller is going to write a very critical report on Donald Trump and perhaps even recommend impeachment or prosecution. This will also drag down his ratings and the GOP's prospects in the mid terms.
So what? That's just a big ole' fucking nothingburger.
But six months ago she was the key to bringing Trump down. You guys need to get your stories straight.
They seem to have learned at their beloved Abuela's knee.
just change your story whenever you get caught lying.
Who's you guys? And what's with all your broadbrushing? See, it's not a person or couple of people you feel intimidated by. If you didn't, you wouldn't broadbrush. I can tell you all this will sort itself out. It's akin to gossip running rampant whether or not someone is pregnant. Given time, it will make itself clear.
There are some that can rise to the situation and have one-on-one intellectual intercourse. Then there are others that are content to sit around with their left-hating buddies and troll in between circle jerks. You insist on childish, boorish, Trumpian insults (which of course begets like comments) and painting everyone with one broad stroke. That's a sign of intimidation and fighting back when fighting back is unnecessary. How about learning to agree to disagree instead of losing credence and appearing ridiculously ignorant. Only small and less than bright people lean on insults and absurd comments.
If you are hallucinating that democrats who crossed over to vote for Trump will stay with him and the Republican party, sit back and watch your hallucination burst. Neither democrats or independents are going to stay with Trump. Every election we've had in the last year has shown a 12-18 point swing toward the democratic party. Even in the Scottsdale vote yesterday, a +23-28 republican district stayed republican by only 6. Another republican state house seat that has been in republican hands for 40+ years swung democrat. The right can bitch all they want, but the wave is turning into a tsunami. Republicans are going to drown on November 6.
Sorry, cobalt. I forgot reading comprehension is not your thing. By "you guys", I clearly meant those who stated months ago that this Russian lawyer was they key to taking Trump down.
I;ll remember to take it down a few more notches next time for you.
Things take a different tack daily. Much like Hillary's emails were going to be her downfall. For years that was predicted. So much so that despite more than a couple of clearances, Trump promised a special prosecutor for her. Weren't there chants of "lock her up"? Hell, it seems that Cohen will probably spill stuff in order to keep from becoming a prison bride. I wonder if they make cute little veils out of toilet paper. I digress. Things just take a different route. Time will tell, bugsy. Time will tell. And we got nuthin' but time.
Aw, no need to take it down a notch. Perhaps proper use of English would help you. For instance, rather than say "you guys" which sounds like a broadbrushing term, you can say something like, oh ... I don't know ..., "those who thought the Russian lawyer was the key down..." - you know, just because it's a clarifyer. See? Easy peasy.
the 7 million obama voters who voted trump cannot be wrong
I had to vote that up. Please post links indicating that as fact. How about these Trump voters ? You gotta admire people who say they made a colossal mistake. I respect those who own up to their lapse in judgment.
Wow Trumps approval rating is twice as high as congress and only a few points below Obama’s average not bad for a rookie.
If you like Trump you should be disappointed that he can't keep his mouth shut. It is killing him.
killing him?
How, in your mind, is it killing him?
Is he not President?
Still?
No, it hasn't hurt him a bit, and he's doing what he was elected to do, in spite of the opposition. He WILL be reelected.
I remember you making similar claims prior to the 2016 election. Really he’s killing the liberals push towards socialism and they are still in denial that it is happening.
Someone with 38% popularity is being "killed" in public opinion.
His popularity has been below 40% in the weekly Gallup poll for all but a few of the 64 weeks he has been in office. On what planet is that "winning" ?
lol. That is nonsense. The great majority of the polls predicted the popular vote within the margin of error. The majority of them had Clinton winning by 1-4 points and she won by 2.
BF if we didnt have "polls" , the nonsense that pours forth daily from your ilk would go more unchecked than it already does.
Everyone on earth knows that Trump is a serial liar. Many of his followers are so brainwashed he lies to their face and they believe him.
The polls are but a simple attempt to reacquaint y'all with reality now and then.
And does opinion polls have any real effect on his Presidency?
No, he still does stupid shit and, says things that even more stupid than the last thing he said.
so posting polls that don't matter is really pointless then.
got it.
Uh, I don't ever use popular polls for anything. They mean nothing to me.
According to the popular polls, Trump shouldn't be President now. But he IS.
Just another meaningless poll trotted out in some weird attempt to show that Trump shouldn't be President--as if we have ever gone by popular polls to determine that.
Completely worthless.
'When I'm done it will be like you were never even here.'
Which pleases the deplorables so much that Donald Rump is fucking over the whole world. Donald Rump is so insanely jealous of all of President Obama's accomplishments he must wipe them out. Donald Rump is also so jealous of the fact that President Obama is admired and respected around the world and Donald Rump is mocked, ridiculed, and a laughinstock all over the world.
Tick, tock, tick, tock, you piece of shit.
I was making the point that the only thing Trump cares about is providing junk food for his base, skirting the CoC [ph]
You really need to get a grip!
skirting the CoC [ph]
No quote - truth. Duh.
Skirting the CoC [ph]
look, I understand your need to love these polls.
But they do not matter to most.
They won't change the outcome of the election.
Wow - liberalism in a nutshell. They can't seem to tell the difference between wishful thinking and real world facts. Had they been accurate they would have arrived at completely different determinations - or hilLIARy would have won...period.
The polls - regardless of who was gathering the information - were WRONG!!!!!
Likely reasons - (based on their own post self analysis) - that the polls were wrong:
1) Intentional bias in who they were polling / where they were polling / questions that they asked / the way they asked the questions
2) Likely Trump voters were not interested in answering stupid questions.
Based on the accuracy of the polls and the way the mainstream media likes to mislead the useful liberal idiots, anyone putting their faith in current polls would do well to curb their optimism.
STFU. It's an acronym for "Silly...That's Fundamentally Useless." Why don't you avoid these articles, BF. They seem to only annoy you. I'd get my blood pressure cuff on you, but the last time I did that you insisted I take your temperature rectally.
Ah, we could all use a bit ...
Hope you're doing well, mags.
Yes. Yes we did. And now what? You can repeat that until the cows come home and you behave as if that's an unacknowledged fact. And if you had the nads to admit that you just like seeing the left with what you consider twisted knickers no matter that we're are now the laughing stock of every country, that our stock market is going in the crapper, that he's not put Hillary in jail nor has he even asked for a special prosecutor. Isis is still alive and kicking despite his promise to kill them dead on day one. The wall is not built. And Mexico wasn't going to pay for it any way. The swamp has gotten muddier and dirtier. He can't stick to the same story. He's turned his back on friends and colleagues. His ego is so out of control that Stevie Wonder could see it. You know ... protect him, support him, but own the fact that he's a shit president. He's incestuous. He's a cheater in his personal and private life. He's a bully and a traitor. By not owning what you're about, by saying he's the best thing ever, you're diminishing every bit of credibility you have. I'd have an iota of respect for you if you admitted that he'll go down in history as the worst president ever in the whole universe (Trumplike exaggeration) but it just is damned fun getting the lefties twisting. Have the nads to do at least that. At least I won't think you're stupid.
Incestuous? If you wanna call somebody out at least stick to the facts....like Bill Clinton buddying up to and traveling with a known pedophile in search of underage children.
Funny after watching lefties excuse and apologize for a sex predator like Slick Willie using the Oval Office as his bedroom (accused of a baker's dozen rapes), now the left gets their knickers twisted over an alledged consensual act between two adults years before Trump was even a candidate.
Shit President? Unemployment is at record lows in 14 states, overall all it's the lowest in decades - for Hispanics, for Blacks, for women - for everybody. The economy is in over-drive - record stock markets, US industry is returning jobs and billions in capital to the country. He's forced China to the bargaining table over the trade deficit. That fat little pedophile in NoKo is begging us to allow himself to disarm himself - and he's about to do the same with Iran. And - assuming you work - Trump has lowered your taxes.
We get it - you don't like Trump - So?
I never liked Obama because he intentionally put America last. But I always hoped I was wrong about him.
Unfortunately I wasn't.
Here is what a Shit President looks like. He doubled the national debt in eight years. He divided the nation along religious, racial and financial lines. Dingle-Barry meddled, ironically enough, in foreign elections in Europe, South America and famously in Israel, he crippled our energy industry, he financed Palestinian and iranian terrorists to the tune of billions of dollars - and he interfered with our OWN elections by helping hilLIARy rig primaries, rig the investigation into hilLIARy's own legal problems when she broke Federal Law - and used the IRS to intimidate conservative voters, used the FBI and CIA to spy on political opponents. What a turd Obama is.
Not quite what happened, but Trump is certainly on the way to doing the same thing to the debt and he sure as shit hasn't brought us together on religious and racial lines...he has made it exponentially worse.
But don't let truth get in the way of a good story. SMH.
You have quite an imagination.
You understand nothing about me. I don't use polls except as wishful thinking. What I understand is that the polls are saying exactly who is supporting Trump, 80% of Republicans are supporting him but, when added to the national average of American voters that adds up to a whopping 34% to 45% of Americans overall. The reason Hillary lost wasn't because more people voted for Trump, after all everyone except Trump and, his faithful agree Hillary won the popular vote by 3 million votes, what mattered in the election was the Electoral College and, Trump barely won those states that he needed to win to get enough of the Electoral College to vote for him. Wisconsin, Michigan and, Pennsylvania could have gone either way for a long time that night and, Trump did carry them in the end, I said he would when I saw the lag in the time it was taking for the votes to come in. In fact in 2015 I said that Hillary would lose if she didn't take Trump seriously, she didn't and, we have Trump in the White House, thanks only to the Electoral College.
Now, if you are truthful with yourself you will be taking a look at what is happening in the states that Trump carried and, that I have mentioned here, plus in states like Alabama, Virginia and, North Carolina, not to mention Arizona and, Utah. If you think the Republicans can win talking like Trump you might want to rethink that, all that will get them is a retirement from politics.
Whether he won by a handful of votes or by millions, the results are the same. Trump won the election.
When y'all get at least half of the over-1000 seats you lost, get back to me, okay?
And I wouldn't expect Democrats to support the President of the United States.
Doesn't seem to be in their nature if it is a Republican President.
Perhaps if you gave the nomination to someone with a fully functioning brain in their head for a change? Just a thought!
poor thing--still not over the election.
It's been over year now. Will you be rejoining reality anytime soon?
"Give" the nomination?
Hell, NO. We make our candidates EARN it, unlike the Democratic Party selling itself to your beloved Abuela Hillary.
I can't support someone who didn't really want to be president and, who doesn't have more than two working brain cells. I didn't support George W. Bush because he was an idiot who's policies got us into two unpaid for wars and, almost caused the economy to crash. I did support both Reagan and, George H. W. Bush even though I thought they were wrong on many things concerning the economy at the time. No, I didn't vote for either one but, I did support them when they won the election. It's just the last two Republican presidents I couldn't support and, can't support because of ones personal life style and, stupidity and, the others abject stupidity when it came to lying about a reason to get into two wars, that he didn't pay for.
Earn it? Trump 'earned' it by being a psychopath and total imbecile, constantly babbling complete idiocy and lying like a five-year-old? How can you support a basket case like Trump and still hold your head up?
You do realize that the last time France respected us was when Obama was president....right?
Did Trump win the GOP nomination? I believe he DID.
You can spin it all you want, but at least he didn't BUY the RNC like Hillary bought the DNC.
Alabama is now a blue state... thanks for playing.
oh, gee, look at that--I was right. You DON'T support the President of the US. How dumb is that?
Wars not paid for? That's just flat out crazy.
OF COURSE we paid for them.
Ever hear of a budget and supplemental spending?
Trump won a rigged election... No? He said it was rigged, several times.. Need me to post all the times he said it was rigged?
Poor thing, still using the election results as a fall back position to justify the epic failure of trumpy...
Blue???
Are you freaking NUTS?
Alabama---GOP Governor, GOP Controlled State Legislature--both Houses.
US Senator, one GOP, one Democrat.
Did you change the definition of what compromises a BLUE state and forget to let everyone in on your little secret?
I am not sure how it is where you are from, but where I am from, a BLUE state would have AT LEAST a SPLIT State Legislature, if not be, well, ACTUALLY BLUE!
SMDH
Say, is California red now since you changed definitions?
Poor thing, still whining over your beloved Abuela's tragic loss. Don't you have a sky to scream at somewhere?
Rigged? He BEAT your Abuela. Maybe one day in the not so distant future you will simply recognize that reality.
Paying for it with the "National Credit Card" isn't paying for it, it will take at the least three generations to pay for these wars because, we have put them on credit instead of raising taxes to cover them like we did before.
It's ok, your tears will dry and you'll accept the fact that trump is a loser. How many repubs are retiring? Ryan is, "retiring", at 498 years old? Oh my. You poor thing. Tsk tsk tsk..
He said it was rigged, do you deny this? You seem very triggered.
Really, really curious.
Did other blue states vote for Trump with about 62% of the vote going for Trump?
or is Alabama, a blue state, according to you, unique like that?
Blue state!
LMFAO and SMDH at the sheer lunacy of that statement!
People retire all the time form Congress. Big deal.
I am sure you're just all excited since he is leaving since you could never beat him.
the only tears I am crying are tears from laughing so hard at your "Alabama is a blue state" remark. THAT is fucking PRICELSS.
You should consider a career in comedy.
Over 450 days into trumps failed presidency, and you are still bringing up your best friend Hillary.... You almost sound desperate...or, clinging? Pretty sad. You poor thing.
if we owe the money for the wars, we will pay--just like any other debts we make.
Don't worry so much!
The US is good for it.
Right? And all you have to do is vote for republicans that drive us into another recession, then blame it all on a democrat... I mean, no one would EVER do the math and figure it out!!!! And if they do? Just blame it all on the dems anyway because the base is too fucking stupid to figure it out anyway!!!!! Win!!!!!!!!!! And if that fails? Just call the dems by their nicknames, that willl fool them every time!!!!!!!!!!!!!
/yawn/
Say, what does a blue state look like?
Is it one with a Republican Governor and one US senator from the GOP, and the state legislature controlled by the GOP, and voting for Trump by a whopping 62-34% margin?
Is THAT what blue states look like now?
Hmmm?
You are just too hilarious with that!
How on Earth did you manage to come up with THAT whopper?!
Looks a lot better without the cons running a pedophile.. LOL
What whopper? That trump said the election was rigged? I guess you missed the video of him saying it was rigged? You poor thing.. LOL Well, time to take my beautiful wife out to dinner and a movie, i'll send you some tissues if you wish... Address? LMAO!!!!
You are kind of funny. I like that!
What whopper?
Why, the one where you said Alabama was a blue state!
THAT WHOPPER!!!
LMFAO!
Yeah its not like the US ever promised something it didn't deliver, just ask a native American or a DACA person.
IF I was a foreign country I'd think hard about extending too much credit to the USA these days, Taking into consideration our new leader, this guy doesn't seem to have a real great track record for even paying his own depts. Now we cut taxes and are increasing our spending when we already spend more than we take in every day. Fiscal conservatorship just flew bye bye as I see it.
Good Luck America.
Please list the times the US has ever defaulted on a loan.
I never said we have, I did say "IF I was a foreign country I'd think hard about extending too much credit to the USA these days"
"consideration our new leader, this guy doesn't seem to have a real great track record for even paying his own depts"
Donald Trump has been sued at least 60 times by individuals and businesses who accuse him of failing to pay for work done at his various properties, according to two published reports. more than 200 liens have been filed against Trump or his businesses by contractors and employees dating back to the 1980s. The claimants include curtain makers, chandelier shops, cabinet makers and even Trump's lawyers who represented him in prior cases.
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Now, we cut taxes and are increasing our spending when we already spend more than we take in every day.
SO, I'd think hard about extending too much credit to the USA.
No President pays the bills. It isn't their job to do that.
We have never defaulted that I know of.
Don't see us doing that in my lifetime.
Never said you said it.
And we have been deficit spending for decades now.
Speaking of which Trump just lost on DACA again.
Tick, tock, tick, tock, you piece of shit.
I think you've been suspended, but if not, this should do the trick
Quite an echo chamber you've built. I'll bet it certainly helps avoid those nasty facts that keep getting in the way.........eh?
You'd love rebutting anything I said - we all know you would, but you didn't.........because you can't.......you can't......you can't......you can't.
You and your flailing right wing cohorts are bombarding this seed with pointless off topic nonsense.
If people don't address the topic I may have to close this seed.
Check with Perrie, but I think it is against the rules to address any comments to suspended members. It could be considered taunting, which is a violation.
Good I always hate seeing anyone going back on their word. Including our government.
"If people don't address the topic I may have to close this seed. "
Don't close the seed, that penalizes all other Members who wish to participate on topic. However, do have the comments of the ones who do not stay on topic deleted. When their junk comments are deleted enough they will simply move on to another seed/article to ruin. It's unfair to penalize others just because a few here refuse to behave like intelligent adults instead of cheezy 3 y/o's.
True But presidents do set the agenda and tone of what happens . I repeat his president has a history of NOT paying bills.
So, I'd be extremely leary !
But then again I dont make bad investments. I vet them well.
"This is the only 'reality' that matters....."
No. It isn't. The real world is what matters, and Trump does not live in the real world. He lives in his own little fantasy kingdom where he is the dictator and he can do and say what he pleases, and every one bows and hugs the floor as he walks by. Demanding loyalty and giving none.
As Trump likes to say..."Sad".
I say trump's presidency is more scary than sad.
Anyone who has this much power and strives for more power anyway he can get it scares the crap out of me.
I still believe in a multitude of "bosses" over America.
The number 537 sure sounds much much better to me than one man ruling us with a bunch of robotic figureheads standing behind him.
Good god John the cliche really is true. Da nile is not only a river in Africa.
You like polls. Here's a link which shows how many Polls got it wrong and how badly they got it wrong. The closest ones got it wrong by having a 3% margin, Rasmussem @2%. Others went as high 6%. Strike that .... as shown in this link, one got it right and was promptly mocked by the rest of the mass media.
Whoops ... the media crapped their Poll pants
So please, stop lying. To paraphrase Rodney King; why can't we all just tell the truth and get along?
Here is the only thing in your link that is relevant
Here’s how other polls called the popular vote on Monday, according to Real Clear Politics .
Bloomberg: Clinton +3
CBS News: Clinton +4
Fox News: Clinton +4
Reuters: Clinton +3
ABC/Washington Post: Clinton +4
Monmouth: Clinton +6
Economist/YouGov: Clinton +4
Rasmussem: Clinton +2
NBC News: Clinton +6
All the other gibberish in that link about polls predicting electoral college results is irrelevant. National polls do not predict electoral college results.
The major national polls were mostly right within the margin of error. It is indisputable to intelligent people.
Well, you be leery then.
The rest of us won't sweat stuff that isn't going to happen.
What's indisputable to "really" intelligent people is that the majority of Polls got it wrong. Massively so actually. You know it, i know it, the American people know it ....
The rest is just simple left wing crackpottery.
Well, you failed--miserably.
Again.
LOL O I am. Being careful, even leary when warranted has put me where I am today.
It's my intention to remain this way till the day I die. Healthy, happy and financially set.
Um, okay?
unfortunately for us voters we dont decide who decides to run for office. We only get to vote for those who do.
Speaking of which, as I remember it trump changed parties shortly before running as a republican.
I'd say that is where he goes with that win. IF he tries to turn America too far right too fast, look for a resurgence of new democrats with money behind them coming forth.
Uh. Yeah. Several times over. He spoke of Tiffany's future breast size while Tiffany was in a bassinet in front of him and Marla. He has often spoke of wanting to date Ivanka. He's said it on both video and audio tapes. Here's a series of incidences on video . While there are some stills of him hugging her that could certainly be taken as innocent, given the tenor of his other creepy statements, you cannot deny he's given to incestuous thoughts about his daughter.
As I've said over and over again, you can stand by your president, you can be loyal to your president, but try not to broadbrush all left leaning people in one stroke. I don't consider ALL those who lean right deplorably ignorant. There are those who realized Trump's shortcomings, of which there are several . There are several right leaners that wanted Trump hoping for change but realized he didn't and doesn't have the chops for it. There are also those who support Trump because they're pissed that an educated well-spoken black man won two terms quite handily, both electorally and popularly. There are those who support Trump because they feel such hatred for the left that it's worth to have a liar-in-chief as their president. Look, it's obvious even Trump knows that he's got mindless lemmings as constituents and he's counting on their stupidity to keep him in office. If Obama had said "I could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and they'd still vote for me", I would in no way in hell vote for him. That's an insulting comment. Yet several cheered. The guys insults his constituents and they're too deplorably stupid to get it.
If Obama had said "I can grab pussies any time I want," I wouldn't have voted for him. If Obama had cheated contractors consistently, I wouldn't have voted for him. If Obama had said something one-billionth as nasty as Trump about his daughters, I wouldn't have voted for him. If Obama failed miserably at several businesses which required multiple bankruptcy filings, I wouldn't have voted for him. If Obama boorishly insulted fellow Americans and other foreign leaders via Twitter or any other medium, I wouldn't have voted for him. I would have jumped sides if necessary. I don't vote party, I vote country. I am a proud American who thought America was great to begin with.
I have no problem with you staying loyal to someone who's lied to you, has kept few if any promises he made to you, and who has such a thin skin he resorts to middle school bullying tactics. I say this is America and your loyalties are yours alone. But for you or anyone else to not admit he will be remembered in history as the worst president of all time, then all credibility is lost. Then you're just a mindless ride-along that has been so intimidated by people smarter than you, morally superior to you, that will hang on to the biggest loser in our nation's history.
By the way, isn't anyone else bothered by his "Cohen won't turn over" comment? Why doesn't he say, "Cohen can't turn over. There's nothing to turn"? Why isn't he just letting everything come about if there's nothing to hide. If it were me, I'd say "investigate away; then after all is done and you find nothing we'll get back to running the country." He's already talking about pardoning people. I'm not sure he's aware that in order to pardon someone, they must admit some guilt.
Uh. Hmmm. What was quoted. Think before you hit the keyboard.
How would I "know it" when I just demonstrated to you from your own link that you are wrong. National polls do not predict electoral college results. Period. An assessment of state polls would be needed to do that and every poll does not participate in every state and state polls are never claimed to be particularly accurate.
The NATIONAL polls essentially called the prediction correctly. The evidence is right in front of your nose. And the right should stop lying about this.
Yep, same deal with the Iran nuclear deal. Things like that are why very few countries have any confidence in the word of the US today.
That will be seen soon enough. See, if you say "We're hoping for his reelection" you sound reasonable. The statement sounds hopeful and somewhat confident. However, when you assure he WILL be reelected and then he is not, you give those you insulted as reason to cheer that you had your head up your ass. Don't be the guy that everyone cheers when you're down. Well, unless you're in a Russian hotel room with a group of hookers pissin' on you. Then no one would cheer (well, maybe one or two) but plenty will gag.
Because i thought you were kidding John. You were serious?
Wow!
Cite
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You can cite all the opinion pieces you want, it won't change the fact that the poster claimed Alabama is a blue state andI proved to him how wrong he was.
Are you one of the loons who thinks Alabama is a blue state?
Land of Arpaio blue? Please. No, it's not a blue state, but it is slowly turning lavender (much like Texas) because of the Trump shenanigans. Not even Trump's brethren are in favor of his behavior. They're pissed as all hell that he's fucked up, single-handedly, the republican party. Teabaggers notwithstanding, of course.
Slowly turning?
Will it turn in your lifetime?
Texas turning lavender?
Please.
When Wendy Davis with her little pink tennis shoes ran, she was going to turn Texas purple. So saideth the Democrats.
And what REALLY happened? Despite loads of money, national Democratic support, and very favorable press, she lost by more votes than the last Democrat who ran for Governor. really turned Texas purple or lavender, didn't she?
SMH
SMH
No worries. Time will tell. I can't assume and neither can you. Let me again point out the pregnancy example. We can go back and forth all we like about whether or not someone is pregnant. But time will tell. Better to hedge your bets just in case. When Trump won, I wrote an article congratulating those that voted for him. It was obvious it wasn't my choice for an outcome, but I congratulated those who got the outcome they desired. I also stated in that article that I hoped that Trump would keep the promises he made to his constituents. I felt they deserved the best from him because they were voting for him and believed he would keep his promises. I was truly hoping he would keep his promises to you even if it meant getting a special prosecutor for Hillary. There had been several attempts to find something and while nothing had popped up yet, if she was guilty of wrongdoing then she should face the music. If one has nothing to hide, then one shouldn't be worried about information being found.
Donald Trump is the most unqualified and disqualified person to ever run for president of the United States on a major party ticket. There are no "good sides" to his presidency, and he needs to be removed from office as soon as possible.
I like how Iran's president succinctly put it today: "Trump is unqualified to deal with important international issues." It's pretty clear that all of our allies feel the same way.
I thought the term "you and your ilk" was verboten?
I used it in a comment to somebody and she got highly distressed about it.
the polls are just as bs today as they were in late 2015 and all of 2016
yall are too funny
No doubt I'm responsible for introducing the term here....
Um, you know there is a difference between a "poll" and a "pole", right? SMH
Obama a rookie? Trump is the poster boy for being a rookie in politics.
Trump may usually shoot himself in the foot. However, it is always others that suffer the consequence.
Trump is too stupid to realize that he has been played by people much smarter than him..
Now that's a fact you can bank on!!
the reason the left has failed in its attacks on trump is simple.
military intelligence has been helping trump since before day 1 ( they have it ALL on the cabal )
I wonder what names allison mack has dropped for a lighter sentence?
“they are engaged in plea negotiations, which they believe are likely to result in a disposition of this case without a trial,” according to a document filed Friday.
to avoid 100 yrs in jail allison will have to name some very big names = my bet is some of those names are "federal" :)
And yet, the person you claim is stupid ran a better campaign than one of your "smart" heroines.
I for one wouldn't go around bashing someone who has already proven to be at least as smart as the best your party can come up with.
Donald Trump Will Always Shoot Himself In The Foot
It would seem so, but does he have to always use a howitzer to do it. He will soon run out of feet.
Tis only a flesh wound! He’s survived worse.
I have no explanation as to the why, but nothing seems to stick to him.
He is the master of the illusion.
I think it's his attitude.
Of Course his wealth has always been a factor.
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You are what you believe you are and others see you as you portray yourself. ... Then reality appears. When It is truly different from what you have portrayed, believed and lived, it crashes hard. The fall from grace is usually a fast hard fall.
I'll sit back and wait for gravity to kick in
That's what I'm doing, sitting back and waiting for reality to catch up. Most illusions are fleeting at best.Unfortunately this illusion took on a reality of it's own and I expect there to be repercussions.
Many of which the world may have never seen before.... to plagiarize our dear deal leader
Same page.
Strange days indeed, getting stranger by the moment, let us hope that reality gets on the fast track.
This is reality, The illusion that is trump has become part of reality. As this realty pushes us further to the right, there will be resistance. WHEN it gets pushed too far, it will be pushed back.
At this point it's because people have very, very low expectations of our Glorious Leader.
That's why Trump uses "John Miller" and "John Baron" as his publicists. He wouldn't trust anyone else!
Trump shooting himself in the foot.............Well, he certainly has where Melania is concerned.
I'm not sure about that. She can't possibly be stupid enough to not know what she was getting into. There is no way anyone with the slightest amount of brainpower could expect someone like that to not cheat on her. I guess the tradeoff is worth it to her; I would be very surprised if she divorced him. His being elected POTUS was probably the one thing that made her seriously consider divorce. His repeated infidelities? Not so much.
Poor Melania. She doesn't even want to hold his hand ... AGAIN . I'll bet she wishes she could go back to posing nude in order to make money. That was painful to watch. He actually thanks her for holding his hand.
It's ok, Macron has him covered.
It’s Fun to Watch The Liberals’ and Never Trumpers’ Coup Dreams Die
“You liberals and your Fredocon lackeys need to get this through your heads. You are not purging this guy. He’s purging you. Just look at James Comey, who has gone from Tower of Integrity to Looming Doofus. The winding trail from the bottom of that famous escalator to right here and now is littered with the twitching bodies of those who thought they could take on The Donald and win.
And it’s a delight to watch you hacks go nuts about it.
Pity the poor liberals and their cruise-shilling Never Trump minions. It’s going to be hilarious when their scheme to bring down the President brings them down instead.”
You realize it's an opinion piece, right? I mean, it's my opinion traitorous and incestuous Trump will be vilified in history books and we will be left scrambling to fix America's reputation, but it's just that. Opinion. You know the old saying ... opinions are like assholes. Everyone's got one. It even says Opinion at the top of the article. One guy's opinion won't even get you a cup of coffee. That's just my opinion.
Sure and it's my opinion that the Marxist Statist Democratic party are enemies of our Republic and that Hussein Obama was one of the worst presidents in our history.
Democrats love to turn on American heroes. For over 120 years Democrats referred to themselves as "Jacksonian Democrats". Now that leftist historians have vilified Jackson, they run from their past.
Thomas Jefferson is the father of the Democratic Party. Now Dems denounce his libertarian views
Tis a pity you have to reach all the way to the early 1800's to make a point, and an absurdly ridiculous one at that. What does your president always say in his tweets? Oh yeah. Sad.
Ridiculous? So our history, why our political parties formed around certain ideologies, and why the Dems now despise everything they held dear for most of our history is not relevant? that's another example why leftists have no credibility
That's your opinion. I'm of the opinion that several, not all, of the right leaners are morally rudderless thinly-disguised racists who are on the lower end of the IQ scale who are not even good at skewing arguments. But that's my opinion. To each his own.
If all democrats are Marxist enemies of the republic, I guess that makes all evangelicals pedophiles, right?
I am disgusted with liberals, particularly, women who continuously bring up Melania's past in modeling. Aren't they the ones who say a woman can do whatever she likes with her body?
Melania was a model. Whether nude, kissing a monkey, or wearing a nun's clothing.
Enough, already. Don't lay your hate for Pres. Trump in her lap.
I have no problem with her being nude and/or girl-on-girl. However those who insist on calling her classy while bringing up unproven 'nude' pictures of Obama's mother as skanky are prone to being given examples of their hypocrisy. Just as I had a problem with those who were horrified when Michelle Obama wore a sleeveless dress all of a sudden being fine with nude photos of the first lady. I don't think Melania asked for any of this. I'm sure she knew they would really be made public and Barron would suffer. Trump didn't care about that. I can almost guarantee you that Melania hates that this now will be a source of pain for young Barron, a young man who didn't deserve any of this. But that's the thing about politics, mags. It makes reasonable people behave unreasonably as long as they're behind a monitor. The anonymity makes people say things they'd never say in public.
It's not the photos, mags. It's the hypocrisy of those who aren't quite smart enough to realize that reasonable arguments are the best way to communicate. Not insults. Insults and broadbrushing begets insults and broadbrushing in kind. Please understand that. How many years did we have to listen to others call President and Mrs. Obama "Obammy"? What outcome was expected from that?
His mother was only brought up after Melania,
Obammy was not used for Michelle.
Some not so nice name calling for Michelle, B. Bush (even after her death), L. Bush, N. Reagan, all of them. But, we are suppose to be in the age of enlightenment where we don't body shame as some are doing against Trump,
women take control.
She didn't have Barron then.
Have we always planned our lives around what might be?
Exactly, mags. Which is why she more than likely didn't want Trump to run for president. Youthful flights of fancy often come back to haunt us. But he didn't care. He didn't care about his son. He didn't care what Melania thought. He didn't care what Melania felt. He didn't care. Do we wonder why she hates holding his hand? She'll do it if she has to, but she in public often brushes him away. In public! He cheated on her, sans protection, with a porn star right after she gave birth. She doesn't deserve this. Neither does Barron. We get that. But some, not all, right leaners want to get childishly ugly without any splashback. It's not going to happen, mags. Don't you remember the uproar of when Michelle [by the way, she got called Mooshel often] wore a sleeveless dress? Hypocrisy works for no one, mags. No one.
Of course, it does.
For whom does hypocrisy work?
And, with this statement you wonder why some of us on here go after Melania? The right and, you have gone after Obama and, Michelle with some of the most slanderous and, racist names I have ever seen, "Obammy" is one of the worse, just one of them, then there is "Moochelle". So, since you can't seem to respect Obama or, Michelle why should any of us respect the Dumpster and, the First Slut?
It does for the person you're replying to.
Hmmm. You're awfully dependent on memes instead of discourse there, normie. You know, hypercritical people are hypersensitive. There's never been an exception to that rule. So you'll understand, it's a fancier way of saying there are certain people who can dish it out but can't take it. I'll bet you go running to the mods every single day, don't you. You seem like one of those. There was a gay guy named Ron that did that. He'd come in blasting and baiting and the second you insulted his limited intelligence he went crying to the mods. I wonder what happened to gay Ron after he was banned from that site?
Meme's!!!! What, wait a minute I have a meme just for Norman...
Trumpy holding hands, isn't that cute.
And see? You're proving Cobalt right.
Inasmuch as Melania hates holding his hand (he actually thanked her for holding his hand ... that vid is painful to watch ), he's thrilled that anyone would hold his hand without that expression on their face that says, "omigawd, you'd gag a maggot ...!"
trumpy: This way, Emm....I got something to show you
Macron: Help me!
That's how child therapists treat severely socially underdeveloped children who lack communication skills and who are very angry because their version of a nice life always seems to elude them. Keep posting those memes, normie, because they make you look really really smart and it makes it look like you have no anti-social tendencies whatsoever. Mostly because they show off your intellect. Everybody gets really really impressed by them and they all think that you're an amazing genius. Really. People think that. Honest. Trust me.
A waste of valuable time. You can lead a liberal to the truth but you cannot make it think. Useful idiot, drone, minion - they all describe the way the DNC thinks of their voter base. Cannon fodder.
The truly sad thing is that most of the lib goobers can't tell that the wind is changing direction. Remember when the democratic party was the "party of the people"? The working stiff, the middle class, blue collar and white collar were their focus, the people that they served.
Today it's populated by rich elitists in Kalifornia and NYC that are trading in the average joe for convicted felons, illegal aliens and gang members because the DNC needs to replace their voting base - and the useful idiots can't see it....or at least they SAY they can't see it.
There a few evolving lefties in Kalifornia that are opting out of that "sanctuary" crap at least....but it is so very hard not to openly laugh at some liberal goober toeing the party line when we know just how pitifully self deluded they are.
They're easy to spot: They are the ones that loved Comey when he "exonerated" hilLIARy, then hated Comey when he opened up the e-mail investigation again - then loved him when he closed it again - then hated him when the DNC TOLD them to hate him - and now are so confused they have no idea what to think. The ones that find no fault in Klinton selling the Russians uranium yet get their knickers twisted of a year long dead end investigation - because they are told to. That find no fault in a POTUS that lied to a FISA Court, that wiped his butt with the Constitution to spy on his opponents, that find no fault in the IRS intimidation voters - because they are told to.
Don't worry my liberal friends - the confusion will soon pass. The DNC is working overtime tonight and will soon be calling you again - to tell you what to think.
Melaria is a far better plagiarist than she was a model.
Good to see Trump and Macron working side by side.
Gosh ... he looks better than he has in a really long time!
I think he's lost a little weight, don;t you?
No doubt!
good gawd...Trump actually turned into a Russian lady.
Trump is always doing the wrong thing. He actually thinks it's funny to be contrary, do the opposite of what is normal or what actually works and then use his money to avoid any consequences. He has followed this pattern his entire life.
From failed businesses, bankruptcies, failed marriages, failed contracts, failing to pay his workers or honor his contracts, failing to be honest and failing the American people by using the electorate to further his own ambition.
He laughs at his base and the rest of America because all this was to him was getting the highest office in the land as a trophy under his belt while he golfs every weekend. He laughs because he trashed Obama for golfing and then says look, I can do the same 100 times over and my base will love it. HA, HA.
Trump laughs while he appoints bigger swamp creatures from Wall Street or failed careers or no experience whatsoever, laughing as he gets to tear down everything just like he and Bannon planned to do from day one.
Trump only measures success by the amount of praise he gets even when there is nothing to praise, or measures it in money or attention. He has always been an attention seeker.
For years and years and years Trump has been failing making others pay for his mistakes using daddy's money, the money he cheats contractors and workers out of and using his army of attorneys to get him out of it.
America is not great again because we have a man with a grade school vocabulary spouting off on Fox like a dotty old man in a nursing home. A
Trump is terrified that a lot of his failures and escapades and back door dealings will be revealed and that for the first time in his life he may face some kind of punishment.
Time to move on folks. The comments are getting repetitive after 390.