Fox News Hosts Bash Trump’s ‘Disgusting’ Putin Presser
Several prominent Fox News hosts could not believe what they saw Monday in President Trump’s overtly deferential presser with Russian President Vladimir Putin.
The joint conference in Helsinki took a turn for the shocking when, after being asked by Reuters whether he held Russia responsible for meddling in the 2016 election, Trump said he holds “both sides responsible.” The president also directly contradicted his own intelligence officials, saying he believes Putin when he says Russia did not intervene in the election.
Following the presser, Fox News anchor Neil Cavuto—appearing on the Fox Business Network—called it a “disgusting” display.
Trump was “essentially letting the guy get away with this, not even offering a mild, a mild criticism,” Cavuto said. “That’s what made his performance disgusting. Only way I feel. Not a right or left thing to me. It is wrong.”
Fellow Fox host Stuart Varney, who routinely boosts Trump’s policies, bashed the president for what was “not a very forceful presentation.” Two of the conservative host’s guests joined in, saying Putin came out ahead.
“He outmaneuvered our president,” FBN business reporter Ashley Webster said. “I was very surprised. I thought Trump was going to push hard.”
Fox & Friends Weekend host Abby Huntsman—daughter of Jon Huntsman, Trump’s ambassador to Russia—also minced no words in criticizing the president whom she regularly defends.
“No negotiation is worth throwing your own people and country under the bus,” she wrote in a forceful tweet following the presser. Her comment appeared to be pushing back on an emerging pro-Trump argument that the president’s deference to Putin was a means to making diplomatic in-roads with Russia.
Some of the network’s political correspondents seemingly agreed that Trump had failed.
White House correspondent Kevin Corke, who has previously flirted with alt-right politics, conceded on-air that Trump “did miss an opportunity,” while national correspondent Ed Henry said the president’s refusal to side with U.S. intelligence agencies was “really going to backfire on him.”
Brit Hume, a former anchor turned correspondent, wrote on Twitter that Trump’s “vague and rambling” answer on whether he believes Russia interfered in 2016 was a “lame response, to say the least.”
Other Fox personalities took issue with the presser, but suggested it was part of a grander Trump strategy.
On Fox News’ daytime talk show Outnumbered, host Kennedy said she doubted that Trump actually believed Putin’s denial of interference, but acknowledged that she “would like to see the president be more forceful.”
Co-host Melissa Francis, however, maintained that it was possible Trump was more forceful during the private meeting with Putin. “You have to view what he's saying outside the room as a PR campaign by the president to send a message to Vladimir Putin,” she said. “We don’t know what happened inside the room, we don't know how tough he was there."
Meanwhile, Fox News’ resident right-leaning media critic Howard Kurtz criticized the president’s “troubling” performance, but then—as is his wont—found a way to make it about the trouble with liberal media.
“It’s troubling that Trump wouldn't embrace his own intel agencies’ findings on Russian meddling against the ‘strong & powerful’ Putin denials,” Kurtz tweeted. “Liberal commentators denouncing him as Neville Chamberlain, calling for censure & impeachment, also going over the top against Trump.”
Uh-oh. Time for Trump to call Fox fake news!
Since when are you pro Fox News? Oh wait, some of them said something against Trump. I am sure you will go back to deriding them as being not news shortly.
As for his meeting Putin- who really gives a damn. If this was Hillary the left wouldn't even have blinked. Think Russia was on the sidelines for both of Obama's victories? (Of course he was pulling for Obama over McCain and Romney so that is OK.) Think we and NATO were on the sidelines for Russian elections; elections in the Russian buffer states; Syria; Iran; or any where else we held out a glimmer of hope of influence? Hell, Obama tried to directly influence the Israeli election, and was defended by the left for doing it.
What was given to the public was Trump and Putin acting nice for the public. What was said behind closed doors away from the media- and all but the translators? I am sure the left thinks it was Trump giving Putin our nuclear codes, the security bypasses to Fort Knox, and how best to bypass the security cyberware for Wall Street (Which Trump doesn't know- but I am sure the left thinks he does). Chances are it was the same as both Bush's private meetings; Clinton's, and Obama's. "Stop messing with our elections." "Stop flipping pro Russian governments in the buffer states; and leave our over seas allies alone!" "Fuck you" "No, fuck you". They get it out of their system knowing full well neither side is going to stop a damn thing; put on a fake smile for the cameras- and talk bs about all of the common ground they found.
Problem is that Trump's handlers aren't the brightest; or he doesn't listen. Of course the media would never ask an Establishment president about Russia meddling in US elections. What Trump should have said is "Of course Russia attempted to influence our elections. They have been for a long time; and will continue to do so. We will take new steps to stop them; and tweak their noses by continuing to flip pro Russian buffer states, and isolate them further from the rest of the world. From the count so far, I'd say we are winning handily." Of course that would blow the whole poor US mantra out of the water. Then I guess the left would scream about Trump outing US operations (as if the whole world doesn't already know).
But it is all about hatred of Trump at this point, so it wouldn't really matter what he did.
Actually, Fox News has become the News Network of record. Did you notice that after the Summit yesterday, the President granted an private interview with Sean Hannity and President Putin granted a private interview with Chris Wallace?
Vic, in all seriousness, is your comment a joke?
The fact that Trump granted an interview to his good friend Sean Hannity is not a matter of realistic pride for either of them, it is a sign and signal that Fox news is "state media" and the propaganda arm of the Trump regime.
I don't know where or how you ever got the idea that Fox is an objectively honest news source, but that is very often anything but true.
How can you say that-- when their people are all Socialist and Alt-Leftists? Some have even become Commie Sypathizers!!! even Commie sympathizers?
For example:
Fellow Fox host Stuart Varney, who routinely boosts Trump’s policies, bashed the president for what was “not a very forceful presentation.” Two of the conservative host’s guests joined in, saying Putin came out ahead.
“He outmaneuvered our president,” FBN business reporter Ashley Webster said. “I was very surprised. I thought Trump was going to push hard.”
State sponsored tv is ok with you? Putin would be happy you approve.
Ah, deflection again?
When people are free to choose, they tend to choose networks that are most accurate with the widest audience
That was hardly a deflection. Fox is in Trumps pocket and Trump is in Putiins. You should be happy...that's what you wanted.
Will there be a cat fight on Fox and Friends tomorrow? A civil war in Fox News maybe?
Been Fox watching for a while and they are all clearly lost and befuddled. Their talking points are useless.
They are hoping that there's some secret "master plan" that Trump is playing to.
Right now they are making fun of the people who protested Trump in London.
Yes I switched from the Five when that came on.
Now watching the new case against NRA affiliated person accused of being a Russian Agent. Butina
Nothing to do with Mueller.
Of course FOX is befuddled and confused. They weren't counting on Trump coming along. FOX has always been the voice of the right wing's chapter of the Establishment. Trump disrupted their rhetoric but they don't dare attack him to strongly for fear of displaying their true colors which were never really hidden all that well.
I spent a lot of time watching Fox today (I am probably the only one on NT who spends a fair amount of time every day watching Fox and MSNBC)>
It was obvious-- the civil war on Fox has already begun!
I do that too. I watch both of them just to see what they all say.
Some times I get sick of it though and have to turn it all off.
Good for you! I wish more people did that! (That would go a long way toward ending so many if the assinine comments we see here....)
I will predict for you exactly what will happen. This "pushback" against trump will last for a day or two and then these same Fox hosts will go back to licking Trump's boots. Especially if a new conspiracy theory exonerating Trump is offered.
So, according to some, Trump should have stood up there and lambasted Vlad. Then what...where do we go from there? No further negotiations?...WWIII?
Trump could have ended his European trip in Scotland.
Especially in light of the recent second group of indictments of Russians and the Dan Coats presser this morning.
That is what I say. There was no need to meet with putin at all.
Trump operates on want not need.
Oh plz.
If Trump would have canceled his scheduled meeting with Putin the snowflakes on the left would be crying that he is scared to face Putin.
No matter what he does the same little crybabies who have been kicking and screaming and having meltdowns will still be doing it.
Hillarious Hillary lost and the snowflakes will be crying about it till 2020. For fuck sakes they are still crying that Bush stole the election.
He didn't have to set up the meeting to begin with. There is nothing to gain from it. Just like his meeting with NK. Nothing to gain and nothing gained.
If Trump had canceled, maybe the news stations, all of them, including Fox, would not be having a melt down today.
Or the DNI, or Republican Senators, or The Speaker of the House. The DNI Coats was actually having a presser at the same time which totally contradicted what Trump said.
It was an unnecessary move by Trump, apparently meant to raise his own "visibility" and it has back fired.
Maybe, if he had cancelled, he could have united the GOP. What we are watching is quite the opposite.
Meanwhile a new investigation, unrelated to Mueller, has led to the arrest of a ( an actual ) Russian Agent.
Interesting. I wonder who the politicians were, that were not named.
If Trump would have canceled his scheduled meeting with Putin the snowflakes on the left would be crying that he is scared to face Putin.
That is such an idiotic statement. delete
Maybe, if he had cancelled, he could have united the GOP.
Not to mention gotten some deserved respect from the left, for doing the right thing just this once. This pig is simply adverse to doing the right thing for this country, as demonstrated by the criticism coming at him from both sides of the isle.
I believe our President knew the indictment was coming down, should have cancelled the meeting altogether. Putin was/is never going to admit Russia's meddling. Hearing Trump explain how Putin would be happy and offered work with U.S. personnel to get to the bottom of this was stunning! Putin is playing our President like a two-bit whore.
It was very clear to any real patriot what he should have done. If he couldn't cancel the meeting at the least he should have come right out and said "I believe the US intelligence, Russia did in fact hack the DNC, hack at least 20 different State election servers and intentionally meddled in our 2016 elections. I have told Mr. Putin that this is not acceptable and they will have to earn our trust if they want a better relationship with us and for sanctions or the Magnitsky act to be removed."
Instead, the piece of treasonous trash stood up there and said "Well I don't see any reason Russia would have hacked us, President Putin was very strong and powerful in his denial, and I haven't seen the missing server, where's the server...?". He got bent over and abused by Putin who was smiling to himself the entire time with glee at how he could make the US President dance to his tune. It was an utter embarrassment for any real American patriot. I, for one, was more than just dismayed.
Neither will trump, despite all the evidence to the contrary. Even his own staff said the proof is not disputable, but ole trumpy just keeps on living in his fantasy world..
Corker, McCain and Flake were all quoted or interviewed, Rubio would only comment on Twitter,
Gingrich was not pleased, to say the least.
The other Congressmen and women, I didn't recognize the names, were reportedly Republicans.
No one wasted time interviewing many Dems or Independents today...
No he wasn't....
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President Trump must clarify his statements in Helsinki on our intelligence system and Putin. It is the most serious mistake of his presidency and must be corrected—-immediately.
Well-- here's what one prominent Republican suggested Trump should've done:
South Carolina Republican Rep. Trey Gowdy took Russia to task over alleged interference in the 2016 US elections and suggested President Donald Trump ask Russia to extradite its recently indicted nationals.
"Your first requests of Vladimir Putin needs to be: tell us which airport we can pick up the 25 Russians that tried to interfere with the fundamentals of our democracy," Gowdy said.
I suppose you feel that Goudy is some sort of ultra liberal-- perhaps a "Socialist" traitor to our country? Do you really believe that Goudy wants Trump to "start WWIII"?
A united GOP back under the control and leadership of who? The same leadership the left has decried for decades? The same leadership they claim to hate for obstructing their hero Obama? Yes and yes, because it is the same leadership they have worked together with for decades to create a gridlock that prevents any real progress for the citizens of this country.
It is humorous to hear a lefty say that Trump should listen to McConnell, Ryan and other establishment Republicans.
Forget the Rs and Ls, doubtful that you will find many independents who want to go back to what we had.
Whenever I see people using buzzwords like that, it pretty much assures me they don't think for themselves.
Thank god we live in a country where people are entitled to there own opinions.
But it doesn't change the fact that there is a lot of snowflakes out there still crying over Hillarious Hillary's loss.
#RESIST
again with the snowflake. Boring.
I hope that traitorous fuck was wired for sound.
Do you mean little Putin? I bet he was.
I didn’t know Obama was there
He isn't. It's the orange haired false prophet that a lot of teavangelicals are enthusiastically ass-licking now.
Most likely, Putin had the meeting wired for sound, suckered Trump into verbally committing to incriminating tenets not in America's best interests …
… AND WILL LIKELY LET TRUMP KNOW THAT HE HAS SUCH INCRIMINATING AUDIO … giving Putin even more leverage to fuck America via a compromised, possibly blackmailed Trump!
Trump may be President of the US, but, he is not, never has been, nor ever will be, my President. And the GOP loyalists here can keep their pitiful untrue tripe about my being a Democrat, as their lies are not impressive to anyone but themselves and their equally blindly devoted party first loyalists, and only prove how party devoted before being America devoted.
Out of all the far better qualified GOP candidates for President they chose a demented and psychotic arrogant, egomaniac and unqualified person such a s Trump to be the leader of our country, shows their obvious equal lack of intelligence.
Go ahead and wipe yourselves out in condemning me for my own right and freedom to voice my own opinions and thoughts, the same as everyone else here, but, I won't be listening. I've heard enough GOP representation from Trump, and nothing further can be near as revolting or a personal attack on me and every other American citizen.
And if this gets me another suspension, so be it......I will consider it one well earned.
Meanwhile the true traitors, Obama, his administration deleted continue to push their Stalinist ideology against America and Americans
You've repeated this comment or ones similar to it a number of times today. The more you post it doesn't make true, it isn't true, never has been.
The country has a real mental health issue. I'll leave it at that.
Only the ignorant or Stalinist supporters will deny thetruth
Again you can repeat this for the next 100 years and it still won't be true...But, carry on with the delusion.
Those Stalinist supporters are the people defending trump from this point forward.
Yes, Trump, his supporters and the Stalinist Russians continue to deny what every one else knows, the Russian government directed by Putin hacked both our political parties and chose to aid a candidate who promised to be favorable to Russian interests. Why Trump made such a promise is currently in the realm of speculation, could be financial ties, could be a pee tape, but there is no doubt now that he is in fact somehow indebted.
I take it you are referring to the ultra-left wing "Stalinist" Trey Goudy (see comment 3.1.15, above)?
Do, for once, instead of posting a short pronouncement …
Try to make a fucking case with specific rebuttals!
So, here’s the takeaway from the last two days:
Putin holds the note on trumpco.
The EU has never been America’s friend. It was formed in part to challenge American economic dominance. I’ve never had any love for Europe which turned its back on God long ago
Yep - and........Trump still has small hands.
So, they turned their back on...no one at all, and that upset you...got it.
The reach of The Deceiver is long. His Shadow is longer. Stay in the light. Reject the deceit of Lucifer. Lacking immoral support, He is powerless. Deny Him aid and comfort.
So instead you trust an ex-KGB (trained liar), our biggest adversary, and Trump, a compulsive liar who lies every day, just because. That's pretty screwed up.
Can you be specific, discard the dismissive empty rhetoric and actually make your "case" with anything substantive. Your mean-spirited demagoguery is Trumpian in style, and, by the lack of examples followed by rebuttal.
I CHALLENGE YOU TO SPECIFICALLY EXPLAIN IN WHAT WAY(S).
The difference between you and me, is that my positions are invariably explained in specific detail, and while you and anyone else is free to disagree, to do in the effete manner you do, is the trademark of one who needs scapegoats to "validate" your frustrations and personal shortcomings.
The white-resentment manifested by the endless reiteration of many times over debunked lies and blanket, dismissive zeal-without-knowledge hate screeds, is what you represent.
There are those herein with whom I disagree as vehemently as I do with you, BUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEM (i.e. "IT IS ME," SEAN TRACY, dennis, "1 OF MANY" and some others) AND YOU, is that they attempt to express themselves with a level of intellectuality.
Those like yourself who gangbang away with nary a well-conceived counter-point, who live by the ad hominem, adolescent utterances, who haven't the slightest idea that by supporting a Donald Trump, they "trouble their own house" -- America -- help bring America down to the level of an incompetent, lying, narcissistic bigot!
And now … he has sold you out to a murderous piece-of-shit in Russia … and you stupidly encourage further such sell outs!
Don't flatter yourself … the only thing I want you to do for me …
… is to go the fuck away.
If/when your next urination on the metaphorical floor dribbles out, don't look for a response from me … just copy and save this and refer back to it. If ever you wish to have an actual dialogue, let us know and I'll join in.
You trust Russians more than your fellow Americans. Let that sink in.
Disgusting comment.
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And boy do they love you, everything they look for in a dupe. You trust them out of the gate, your ideology takes priority over country. I do believe you've been on their radar for a while now. You must be young if you don't know much about Russia, Putin and the old Soviet Union and their preferred intelligence tactics.
How shallow of you.
We define fun differently.
valid observation.
yeah well apparently my observation was a little too observant cause it got deleted. lol
The moderation is so confusing these days.
Wow, I wonder why.
Trump is so desperate to move on from getting bitch slapped from both sides by the disasterous immigration fiasco, that he’s willing to change the topic from him being an unempathic monster to him being a traitorous buffoon - again from both sides.
So it's monstrous to protect kids from their abusive parents that drag them across 1800 miles of drug cartel run territory to make them accomplices in their crime?
Did you go to school for professional turd polishing, or did it just come natural for you?
A short internet search found this, maybe, you should try reading up on immigration and, learn a few things.
Maybe you should do some research yourself:
"Individuals may apply for asylum at a port of entry without illegally entering the country. While the law allows people illegally in the U.S. to apply for asylum, they do not have to “figure out how to get inside” before applying."
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Is that a class you attended at Trump University? How to give up sovereignty to Russia 101? The only course instructed directly by Donald Trump himself?
It would be monstrous for a parent not to take there children away from an environment that almost guarantees there early demise, rape or induction into a violent gang. If you lived in those conditions you'd be in line with your kids at our borders as well. And most are presenting themselves at a port of entry legally applying for asylum but they're still being turned away.
"It would be monstrous for a parent not to take there children away from an environment that almost guarantees there early demise, rape or induction into a violent gang."
I agree. You couldn't pay me enough to live in inner city Baltimore, Detroit and Chicago. Or anywhere else run by Democrats.
I couldn't take a "give up sovereignty to Russia" class if I tried. Hillary and Obama already took it, aced it and set the curve up for everybody else. Between uranium deals and Obama promising more flexibility after the election there's not much more to give away.
How are you so blind to the fact that today's Russia isn't the Russia of 2012 when we were all hoping they would increase their freedoms and democracy and have clear free and fair elections. Since then they've invaded a foreign country and lied about it, they've openly assassinated journalists, political opponents and protesters, they've hacked both of our political parties emails and helped one side win who they thought would treat them more favorably, they've paid at least $1.25 million a month during our elections to help their favored candidate win, they've had two bogus elections in their own country that were neither free nor fair with actual video leaking of them manually stuffing ballot boxes with votes for Putin. We gave them a chance a few years ago, to embrace western democracy and western values, they've spit in our eye and now we have a President who is apparently beholden to them. This is nothing like it was when Obama was trying tentative diplomacy.
Putin's Russia has never changed. It's been the same story since he took control. As Romney rightly said in 2012,
"a declaration from the State Department that "the United States congratulates the Russian people on the completion of the Presidential elections." Given that the Russian elections were widely seen to have been compromised by fraud and intimidation, these words made a mockery of America’s commitment to democracy and human rights. They undercut all those in Russia who are risking so much to struggle for the universal rights that we ourselves enjoy. They are a shameful betrayal of our country’s first principles.
This is Putin's Democracy:
Since then they've invaded a foreign country and lied about
Georgia
t hey've openly assassinated journalists
Here's a long list of journoists killed when Russia was a "Democracy"
political opponents
Like Alexander Litvinenko
protesters
Like Sergi Magnistky?
Not to mention arming Assad, and fighting against our sanctions policy on Iran.
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I've no doubt the left is surprised Fox is being critical of Trump. They are used to watching CNN and MSNBC hosts fawn over Obama and Hillary no matter what they do.
Funny you should say that, and guess who is, once again, on the front page of fox news? Hillary. Every fucking day, "But.......but.........but..........HILLARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!".
Fox news is a wart on the cock of American news media.
As much as you hate Fox, I am perplexed why you subject yourself to continue watching it so much?
That seems like an atheist watching the Christian Broadcast Network to me!
Do tell, you know what news I watch and how much...how exactly?
Either you watch Fox regularly, based on how much and how often you complain about it, or all your posts complaining about Fox are based on your "feelings" and not on facts you would know had you actually watched Fox.
Elementary.
And if he didn't watch, likely you'd accuse him of "not knowing what he's talking about" … because he "doesn't watch Fox."
Can't have it both ways!
"Likely" from your OWN post.
So now you are down to mere guessing and predicting?
How sweet!
I guess that's what happens when you can't deal in facts.
What's not LIKELY is an actual, substantive comment coming from you anytime soon.
"Resort is had to ridicule only when reason is against us." _Thomas Jefferson
Once again, your lack of understanding is a reflection on you, not my posts, which are fairly easy to understand for most.
my posts, which are fairly easy to understand for most.
No argument from me … in "minds" where complicated thoughts die of loneliness, your comments are at home.
“ There is no confusion like the confusion of a simple mind. ” _ F. Scott Fitzdgerald
But it is ONLY you claiming to not understand my posts.
Oh! I understand your posts … what I don't understand is how an "adult-mind" makes such posts, and, one that apparently believes them to be valid and viable.
Gee, I am awful sorry that you don't understand the logic in my posts.
Like someone who never watches Fox suddenly being an expert on Fox with no personal knowledge of Fox.
Or someone who complains bitterly about Fox, but subjects themselves to watching it every day.
I am confident that you are probably an expert on lots of things you kno0w nothing about!
"Ronald Reagan — 'It isn't so much that liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so many things that aren't so.'
That is because rational thinking people allow themselves to be exposed to different 'news' sources (using the term news loosely in this instance), regardless of personal politics. Fox regulars can't say that, which is why they are so constantly misinformed (and uninformed).
Seems like you are QUITE the Fox regular!
It's called "know your enemy".
Very true, the ideological agenda on Fox News is akin to a religious indoctrination channel that doesn't want its viewers to think, it wants them to believe and follow. It's not really a news network at all, it's a propaganda network for white Christian nationalists pushing a bigoted worldview of "Wouldn't it be nice if white Christian males ran everything like God intended, just like they did back in the 1950's?".
Again,
WHOOOOSH!
Yes, I agree my comment should be given three points, it was nothing but net.
I am not quite sure which is more disturbing--that you think you nailed something, or that you can't recognize it when someone points out that something went right over your head.
SMMFH!
LMFAO!
I've never misunderstood a single thing I've read that you've ever posted. I was simply turning your example of an atheist watching CBN on its head. I also have no problem understanding your meager attempts at sarcasm. The fact is atheists do need to keep an eye on the militant religious just like liberals and progressives need to keep an eye on vile partisan Republicans and their sad flawed and useless agenda brought to them by Fox news and other right wing media sources.
LMFAO and SMMFH!
The only thing I can say is that Putin must have more on Trump than what we originally thought. Either that, or the wee-wee video is an absolute doozy.
You know it sister
AND - Trump still has small hands...... (this is my go to comment when I have nothing else to add - plus it makes me laugh)
Sure! it just makes me laugh because it clearly got to him.....but I guess it would get to any guy. It's still funny though
Not bad-- but I like the "Baby Trump Balloon" even better!
London's High-Flying Trump Baby Blimp May Now Be Coming To New York City!
Yes. yes, can the release of the pee tapes be far behind??
From what I have read, trump didn't hire the hookers to pee on him, he hired them to pee on the bed Michelle and Barak Obama slept in. Somehow in trump warped little narcissistic mind, he was having hookers pee on the Obama's. Trump truly is mentally ill.
Come on, get real. We all know no such tape exists. Ain't no way it wouldn't have been released by now.
just like with Trump's taxes. If anything "bad" was in them that the IRS considered okay, they would have been leaked by now.
Especially leaked by an IRS employee who wanted to make a boatload of cash!
The pee tapes are real, Tex, and when the video is released, I'm sure someone will seed it so we can all watch it together! [Like one big, happy NT family...]
Not exactly my cup of pee. You can have mine!
After today, we all know they DO. Were you watching the same presser? Gawd, it was pathetic. Putin has the USA by our pussy (Trump). Humiliating.
Just like with Trump's taxes--no way something like that, if it ever existed. doesn't get leaked by now.
Actually, you need to "get real." By holding such compromising information in his metaphorical "pocket," Putin has a perennial "check" to keep cashing.
Uh, uh, sure thing.
LMFAO and SMMFH at the sheer gullibility of people!
Some of us feel like crying at the sheer gullibility of people willing to believe our enemy Putin and Trump,a compulsive liar over what is essentially right there in front of their face! Their knee-jerk denial of reality is instinctive. I think they are too afraid to allow the truth in because they know they look like total fools and morons now.
If you wish to believe some mythical pee tape exists, have fun!
Says one of the most ardent Christians on this site. You accept far, far more on faith than someone who is waiting for proof that Putin is wisely keeping in his back pocket. Even Melania isn't stupid enough to write that one off.
Once again, you post something that simply isn't true.
Don't you ever get tired of that?
Tell you what--back up THAT statement, since you haven't been able to back anything else up!
(Link?)
Ardent Christin?
Once again, you post something that simply isn't true.
Don't you ever get tired of that?
Tell you what--back up THAT statement, since you haven't been able to back anything else up!
Wouldn't that be trying to prove a negative--just like when people say prove there is no God?
okay, let me modify it for your delicate ears:
MOST people know no such tape exists.
All better now, punkin?
And just how would that imaginary majority of people "know" that?
Common sense speaks to THEM.
If such a tape existed, it would have been leaked by now. Just like if there was anything wrong with Trump's taxes, they would have been leaked, too, by now.
Say, you got that link proving collusion as you claimed yet?
Or are you just going to ignore my question and insist on telling that lie?
Just watch the presser in Helsinki again. There it is.
So, IOW, you got squat.
That is what I suspected. Thanks for confirming it.
I am not in the least surprised, BTW.
The fear in that comment reeks.
It's funny that was claim made for the first time yesterday by Scumbag himself (now being dutifully parroted by you and other enablers) and rather than a denial, it's an admission by him that there could really be a tape and the only matter (or condition as the tense used is called the conditional) left to determine is when it could be released. If such a tape does exist, the person who has it and controls when and if it is leaked (doncha just love the words Scumbag's picks to discuss this) was standing right next to him and there is no logical basis whatsoever to claim that it would have been leaked by now. Wishful thinking, oh yeah. ALL of that by Scumbag and you.
if you have bothered to follow my posts, you would know I said something about this months ago.
The only fear I have is over idiots who vote.
Trumps taxes aren't real? They haven't been leaked, so I guess they don't exist by your logic. And the one page from over a decade ago doesn't count as leaked taxes by the way.
You can choose to be purposely obtuse, and I can choose to let you.
have fun!
I've seen enough of them in this thread alone to give me the creeps, never mind bothered, but nice retreat.
Like I said--read and LEARN.
If possible, of course.
There is a documentary on the History Channel about putin, everyone should watch it. And you're right. Eric Trump spilled those beans a long time ago when he said that his father borrowed hundreds of millions of dollars from russian banks to fund his golf courses, (because the US banks were tired of trump defaulting on his loans). Trump is in debt to the russians all the way to that dead ferret stapled to the top of his orange scalp. Another thing to remember? People that speak out against putin have a nasty habit of turning up dead.
Mueller certainly does as the indictments of last Friday revealed and the arrest of the Russian agent yesterday.
The Trumpian Cartel, especially the Trumpian 'bottle scrubbers' are praying-----err-preying--that The Helsinki Wajinki will pass into the feted swamp the same way as the "I really don't care--do you," jacket worn by the most illustrious first lady in the recorded history of mankind on Earth was swallowed into the cess pool of void land.
Trump doesn't care what anyone thinks, his act of throwing America under the bus is now out in the open. Fox is late to the game.
Fox got played, the American people got played and all Trump wants is another notch in his global empire with a Trump Hotel in Russia and NK.
He is at a point he does not care if he is re-elected. They can kick him out and so what, Trump will laugh because he will move forward without consequence and create jobs in Russia, in NK, and in other dictatorships who are open to bribery.
Trump is the epitome of his wife's jacket slogan, "I really don't care, do you"? And it doesn't matter if Fox or anyone else cares now because he doesn't care and never will. Like a bull in a china shop he will rage on as long as a dollar sign is in sight.
Well...you havearight to your lowly opinion of Fox News.
But the only one who got played is Donald "Surrender Monkey" Trump!!!
Brit Hume, a former anchor turned correspondent, wrote on Twitter that Trump’s “vague and rambling” answer on whether he believes Russia interfered in 2016 was a “lame response, to say the least.”
Let's face it, "Surrender Monkey Trump" is all bluster-- underneath he's very weak.
He's like a sulking spoiled chid!
Heck, even some of what had been his more ardent supporters of Fox News are starting to realize that!!!
Hi Folks!
Does anyone believe we will find out publicly what actually transpired during Trump's private discourse? Trump's words especially? Chris Wallace is another matter...This is public information...Putin is no fool...He is a career Communist, and he is nothing but an ex-equivalent of a career cheater and liar to the rest of the WORLD! He is, will be, and will remain our enemy no matter what words he mouths in public. PERIOD, end of matter!!!
I'm sure they just talked about grandkids and golf!
That was some quick "whataboutism" deflection, nice job. I'm sure Putin and the rest of those wishing for the downfall of America would be proud.
hey, that is JUST as believable s old Billy Bob Clinton talking to Lynch about grandkids and golf!
So if you didn't believe that you're saying we shouldn't believe that's what Trump talked about with Putin, right?
Dealing with the leader of an enemy foreign power has quite a bit more effect on our lives than an ex-President having a conversation with the justice department. Your false equivalency is frankly ludicrous.
I suppose there ARE a few people totally incapable of recognizing sarcasm unless it includes /s !
Sad, really.
Of course I noticed the attempt at sarcasm, but the reality is it was a back handed defense and deflection so it wasn't a very good attempt.
Arnold Schwarzenegger laid it on the line very well in his critique of Trumps meeting with Putin:
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The Terminator star and former governor of California, 70, slammed Trump in an Instagram video after the president held a press conference with Putin on Monday in Helsinki, Finland.
“President Trump, I just saw your press conference with President Putin and it was embarrassing. I mean, you stood there like a little wet noodle, like a little fanboy,” Schwarzenegger scolded in the video.
During the news brief, which came after the leaders met privately for over two hours, Trump seemed to accept Putin’s denial of interfering in the 2016 presidential election — despite findings to the contrary by U.S. intelligence agencies.
In his response video, the actor and longtime Republican teased that Trump looked like he was going to ask Putin for an “autograph” or a “selfie.” He added that Trump “sold out” his intelligence community, the justice system, and “worst of all, our country” during the press conference.
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Who cares what another leftist socialist Republican thinks. Conservatives celebrated when he left office
Who cares what another radical right winger has to say. I don't see anyone who asked you, and I know I didn't.